| diablo_rojo_phon | fungi: looks good to me. I'll press the button when I wake up tomorrow. | 04:34 |
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| fungi | thanks! i'll be around to keep an eye on the server once you're ready | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed ttygroup/boartty master: Update author and home page to match gertty https://review.opendev.org/751886 | 19:46 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: were you still planning to approve 742046 today? | 19:49 |
| fungi | i can make sure it's sane when it rolls to the servers | 19:50 |
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| diablo_rojo | Yep! Was just about to ping you to see if you were ready to babysit :) | 19:50 |
| fungi | cool, and sure, i am indeed | 19:50 |
| diablo_rojo | Well then. Lets do this. | 19:52 |
| diablo_rojo | I hit the button. | 19:52 |
| diablo_rojo | Can't wait for it to roll out :) | 19:52 |
| fungi | yup, same ;) | 19:53 |
| diablo_rojo | I hope a lot of people see a noticable change :) | 19:53 |
| fungi | that openstack-discuss ml thread sort of blew up today | 19:53 |
| fungi | but seems to have spurred at least a minor cleanup change for boartty | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | That is nice. | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I saw that thread has just been growing and growing. | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | Funny how we seem to keep having the same conversation over and over again.. | 19:54 |
| fungi | i mostly try to steer the negatives back toward invitations to participate, or evidence debunking misconceptions | 19:55 |
| fungi | i really have no energy for arguing with people | 19:56 |
| diablo_rojo | You do a wonderful job of that. | 19:56 |
| fungi | my family motto should have been "de gustibus non est disputandum" | 19:57 |
| diablo_rojo | You dont like arguing? | 19:57 |
| diablo_rojo | (we'll see if my spanish knowledge gives an accurateish latin translation) | 19:58 |
| fungi | it's idiomatic so might not | 19:59 |
| fungi | has its own english 'paedia article though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum | 20:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh yeah, way off lol | 20:01 |
| fungi | rather, the literal translation could be somewhat nonsensical in absence of context | 20:01 |
| fungi | (a lot of classical latin is that way) | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged opendev/storyboard master: Optimise the Story browsing query https://review.opendev.org/742046 | 20:16 |
| diablo_rojo | WOOHOO | 20:16 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, ^^ | 20:16 |
| diablo_rojo | your baby merged! | 20:16 |
| fungi | it'll be a bit before the jobs run to deploy that | 20:17 |
| SotK | \o/ thanks! | 20:18 |
| * SotK goes to read the ML thread | 20:18 | |
| diablo_rojo | Still. On its way :) | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, maybe have a beer first | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Or some whiskey | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | And tell Charlotte not to let you reply. | 20:18 |
| SotK | hahaha | 20:20 |
| SotK | I secretly enjoy angry ML threads | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, I normally do too, but less so when its something that I have worked hard at/on. | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Though, I do like watching people get called out for being...insensitive on ML threads.. | 20:22 |
| fungi | i'd personally just rather they'd not be insensitive. much less effort all around | 20:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Well yes, but at least if they do it publicly we can call them out on it. | 20:26 |
| SotK | fair, I developed some level of detachment from storyboard criticism at some point (probably in one of the old summit sessions :D ) so it doesn't really bother me personally | 20:28 |
| SotK | but even so, I really appreciate your replies on that thread fungi | 20:28 |
| fungi | no thanks needed, i'm just trying to bring the conversation back to reality for the most part | 20:29 |
| fungi | people have a tendency to lose perspective | 20:29 |
| fungi | i do my best to reintroduce some zen | 20:29 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, you do a very very good job of that. | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | On a related note, I should buy a zen garden.. | 20:30 |
| fungi | is it really a zen garden if you buy it? | 20:30 |
| fungi | (that was almost a koan) | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | I don't know.. but I dont have any sand to rake so I would need to buy some. | 20:31 |
| diablo_rojo | We can't all live on beaches ;) | 20:31 |
| fungi | the garden is in your mind | 20:31 |
| fungi | the sand is only a metaphor | 20:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Hmmmm | 20:33 |
| fungi | my sand is code review | 20:34 |
| fungi | i don't rake it nearly as often as i would like though | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | I am also behind on my raking. | 20:47 |
| SotK | hm, we should work out why https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/3fbf6bc2284d4799b8d9b76777c472b7 is broken at some point (the docker image promotion job) | 22:07 |
| fungi | yep, i was also just looking at our deployment, the new commit is checked out but the latest version we installed was the commit immediately before we dropped python2.7 support | 22:08 |
| fungi | so... | 22:08 |
| fungi | i'll need to think about our immediate options | 22:09 |
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| SotK | weird, did the installation fail or just not start? | 22:57 |
| SotK | also, are we actually using python3 on there now or did we pin it there deliberately? | 22:58 |
| fungi | these are all questions i don't have answers to yet, juggling several unrelated problems at once | 23:11 |
| fungi | the syslog would usually have shown puppet installing it, but i don't see that | 23:11 |
| fungi | `pbr freeze` on the server still says "storyboard-api==1.0.2.dev25 # git sha a0e2745" | 23:12 |
| fungi | which is a few commits old, and the one immediately prior to "Drop Python 2.7 support" | 23:12 |
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