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| AJaeger | Zara: | 05:01 |
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| AJaeger | Zara, SotK, do we still need the openstack-infra/pynotedb repository? Or can it be retired? | 05:01 |
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| SotK | AJaeger: it can be retired, I don't think any of the contributors have the time or motivation to do any further work with it at this point | 06:49 |
| AJaeger | SotK: could you comment on openstack-infra mailing list with replying to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-August/006119.html , please? | 06:49 |
| AJaeger | THANKS! | 06:49 |
| SotK | I can | 06:50 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, SotK. I'll push first changes out already... | 07:09 |
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| SotK | thanks | 07:16 |
| SotK | on epics, I think an epic is just a worklist with a different coat on and strongly wish I had the opportunity to redo the whole implementation around worklists/boards to also have epics in mind | 07:26 |
| SotK | however I think there is value in strictly limiting an epic to only contain stories, rather than stories and tasks | 07:27 |
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| SotK | anyone around for a meeting today? | 19:02 |
| fungi | around if needed | 19:07 |
| fungi | probably the only big news is we have a few new project imports to stroyboard.o.o on friday | 19:08 |
| fungi | from my end anyway | 19:08 |
| SotK | I don't think we really need a meeting today, I think noting upcoming imports is the only thing worth mentioning, and we can do that next week instead once they've actually happened | 19:08 |
| fungi | and i agree, epics can basically be worklists | 19:09 |
| fungi | yep, go enjoy what's left of your evening! | 19:09 |
| SotK | I will do my best :) | 19:11 |
| SotK | I plan to spend at least some of it refactoring how the project groups ui works so its actually possible to link to them by name | 19:11 |
| fungi | dhellmann: maybe one story per team with one task per repo, and then an automatic worklist or per-state board lanes for the stories? | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | fungi : yeah | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | turning off the preferences to show the changes to a story made a huge difference, fwiw | 19:13 |
| * SotK wonders why he didn't think to suggest that as a workaround for the pain | 19:14 | |
| dhellmann | I didn't realize those were even configurable | 19:14 |
| fungi | persia: the load average graph there is misleading. that "m" (lower-case) really does mean micro, so that's saying the 5-minute load average is spiking up to 0.35 or so at its worst today | 19:18 |
| fungi | average is ~0.064 | 19:18 |
| fungi | confirmed watching `top` on the server now | 19:19 |
| persia | Oh my. Yes. Then I have no understanding why responses are slow: it seems not to be related to capacity. | 19:19 |
| fungi | dhellmann: also one thing i was thinking about, if the sb api grew a way to register some story comments as metadata-ish information we could have the its-storyboard set that comment type when reporting review info and make those toggleable in the webclient similar to how timeline events are done | 19:23 |
| fungi | persia: i have a feeling we need someone with experience profiling javascript performance | 19:23 |
| dhellmann | fungi : that would be lovely, yes | 19:23 |
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| dhellmann | being able to turn off notifications for those would be cool, too, but I don't know how much filtering we're already doing on notifications | 19:24 |
| fungi | persia: it could simply be transferring too much data, or making waaaay too many round-trip queries, or... | 19:24 |
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| persia | dhellmann: When things are slow on your browser, is your local host constrained by something? | 19:24 |
| persia | too-many round trips ends up being perceived as "slow" for folk with higher latency, certainly. Also, lots of parallel fetches are painful for folk with high latency or large hopcount because of tcp windows. | 19:25 |
| dhellmann | persia : no more than usual. It's not an especially powerful machine, but the browser can do other things in other tabs when that one hangs | 19:25 |
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| dhellmann | do we load all of the comments in 1 go? or are they fetched in batches? | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | I say it's the browser because the initial page load and render happens quickly, then I get the beachball while it renders the comments | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | but I don't know if that's doing thousand of little fetches of data, or just building and inserting tons of html | 19:27 |
| SotK | its the latter, all the comments are obtained from one api request, it just doesn't enjoy rendering them all | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | that makes sense based on my assumption about how I would have built it | 19:31 |
| persia | And if the laptop has multiple cores, rendering is likely single-threaded, so it would peg one core, and the others could work on things for other tabs. | 19:31 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, when you get a moment, SotK replied on your story here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001674 | 19:32 |
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| * SotK wonders how often folk use the project group view to find stories rather than just filtering the story list by project group | 19:44 | |
| persia | Could check the access logs. See what URIs folk are using. | 19:44 |
| persia | But that's only going to show API calls, so if we can't tell the difference between the API calls from the different interfaces, we don't have the data. | 19:45 |
| SotK | yeah, I don't think we really have the data | 19:46 |
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| diablo_rojo | I don't use it much, except for setting up the project groups and doing the test migrations.. | 19:51 |
| * diablo_rojo realizes that she 100% missed the meeting today.. | 19:52 | |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, you said Tuesday was best for you for the PTG? | 19:52 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: Tuesday afternoon Denver-time is best for me, yep | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | Will make note of it in the planning etherpad | 19:55 |
| diablo_rojo | been working on filling it out today | 19:55 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, if you're interested: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sb-stein-ptg-planning | 19:56 |
| SotK | I could be vaguely around Tuesday late morning Denver-time, but that will likely be on intermittent 4G | 19:56 |
| * SotK opens the etherpad | 19:56 | |
| diablo_rojo | Please add things wherever you see fit. | 19:59 |
| diablo_rojo | OH! | 19:59 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, you should apply for TSP for Berlin right now. | 19:59 |
| diablo_rojo | Unless you were already planning on coming. | 19:59 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportberlin | 20:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Today is the last day to apply | 20:00 |
| SotK | heh, you are really not going to enjoy this, but I'm in Italy in summit week :/ | 20:13 |
| SotK | in my defence when I found out the dates for ptg and summit I had two weeks of holiday in the rest of the year already arranged, and somehow managed to hit both events | 20:14 |
| diablo_rojo | BOOOOOOO | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Thats the worst luck. | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | What are the odds of that? | 20:18 |
| SotK | idk but I was sad when I found out because I was hoping to at least go to Berlin | 20:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Why do you hate us SotK? :( | 20:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Is Italy already booked? | 20:20 |
| SotK | it is | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Well you go and put the Denver Summit on you calendar right now. | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | NO VACATIONS ALLOWED | 20:23 |
| SotK | haha I will | 20:24 |
| SotK | when is it? | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Week of April 29th, 2019 | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Block the whole week off. | 20:24 |
| * SotK makes a note | 20:26 | |
| diablo_rojo | Good. | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, can you review my patch and fatema__'s patch when you get a moment? | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I'll stop bothering you today (probably for the rest of the week) after that :) | 20:28 |
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| SotK | yep, I'll do it either later or tomorrow evening | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | Sounds good. Thank you! | 20:34 |
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