Wednesday, 2017-12-13

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SotKI'm going to struggle to chair the meeting today as I'll be commuting with intermittent internet18:48
SotKunless someone desperately wants a thoroughly inefficient meeting I'll cancel it and be around in here for the next few hours18:58
fungii have nothing too exciting18:58
fungionly updates from me are that i brought current status and the goal proposal up during tc office hours18:59
fungihttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2017-12-13.log.html18:59
fungiand it also dawned on me that https://storyboard-blog.io/ is collecting cobwebs, if diablo_rojo or someone is interested in putting together an update19:00
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fungiinteresting stats i grabbed out of the db... we have over 5k stories in sb.o.o now, of which 3575 were imported from lp (so nearly 1.5k have been created directly in sb)19:05
diablo_rojoI could write something short to post19:05
SotKfungi: thanks for that link, looks like an interesting discussion at a glance19:06
* SotK will read more thoroughly later19:06
* diablo_rojo is reading it now19:10
diablo_rojofungi, sounds like there are a lot of people waiting for things to get done but arent volunteering to help19:13
fungipretty much19:18
fungithe same people don't volunteer to help implement features or fix bugs on launchpad either, i think is their argument19:19
fungimuch in the same way that the majority of free software users will never file a bug report about it much less submit a patch for it, similarly people consuming these pieces of shared infrastructure for the most part don't imagine much benefit to themselves spending time to work on improving them19:20
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SotKfor my part on blockers, I intend to have patches in review to solve the remaining VMT stuff by the new year19:21
SotKthough maybe just 526219 will be enough for a start19:21
SotKwhen it is no longer wip19:21
diablo_rojoSotK, send me your address and I will legit send you a christmas present for all that. That would be amazing.19:22
SotKit would be good also to get some useful feedback on what bits of trello/wekan people miss in sb too19:23
* SotK has some personal frustrations with our boards ui but its a low priority rn19:23
SotKdiablo_rojo: heh, I only said "intend" :)19:24
diablo_rojoSotK, ha ha yeah we can make things prettier later.19:24
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fungiSotK: in fairness, my comment about hosting a "second" kanban service was mostly intended to point out that sb already has one (in case people didn't realize that)19:29
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fungia lot of the concern over the proposal of letting more projects move to sb is coming from people who haven't really used it and don't know what features it has, so are basing off what they imagine it has19:30
diablo_rojofungi, yeah that is also frustrating. I've been teaching it in Upstream Institute so a lot of our newer contributors know more about it than people that have been around the block19:31
fungieven i had forgotten the teams feature already existed until you all schooled me last week ;)19:31
diablo_rojoI can send threads to the ML till I am blue in the face, but I can't make people read them or try it out.19:32
diablo_rojoMaybe we should do another walk through of features in Vancouver?19:32
fungiwhich reminds me, i need to design automation to sync team definitions from a data file so we can code review them easily19:32
SotKi assume something like the current superusers.yaml feature will be enough?19:35
fungii expect so19:40
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