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| Zara | If we have a meeting today I'm not going to be able to be around :/ | 18:43 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, thanks for covering the Kolla meeting till I showed up. | 18:51 |
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| SotK | diablo_rojo: you are welcome | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Meeting time? | 19:02 |
| Zara | I'm very very distracted today unfortunately, maybe got lost in backscroll here | 19:03 |
| Zara | so I can't give much input to meeting but feel free to go without me if you have annoucnements etc! | 19:03 |
| * SotK will start it when his computer turns on :) | 19:05 | |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, lol sounds good. | 19:06 |
| Zara | sotk's so good he can type with his mind | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Ha ha I had guessed phone, but mind is certainly cooler | 19:08 |
| SotK | xD | 19:10 |
| SotK | sorry for the delay | 19:10 |
| * diablo_rojo did code reviews to pass the time | 19:11 | |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, when might you have time to work with me on getting an environment set up? | 19:37 |
| diablo_rojo | Later this week? | 19:37 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: I think early next week is the next time I'm free I'm afraid | 19:49 |
| Zara | if you note stuff in here as you try it I might be able to give pointers in the meantime | 19:52 |
| Zara | I can't promise to be available since I've had a hectic week so far but in general it's less overhead for me to answer questions than to do anything that requires starting up my own env | 19:52 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, that works. Ping me when you are free/around and I will shuffle things to fit. | 19:52 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, no worries :) | 19:53 |
| Zara | (main reason I'm behind on reviews atm is that I don't have an instance on the laptop I use for most of the day) | 19:53 |
| Zara | js draft build ftw | 19:53 |
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| fungi | sorry, was on the road during the meeting. i don't think the current migration script cares who's running it because it doesn't authenticate to lp, so only gets public bugs regardless | 22:19 |
| fungi | but speaking on behalf of the vmt we could probably manage to manually import embargoed bugs separately | 22:20 |
| fungi | even we don't have visibility into all projects' private bugs anyway, so projects not under vmt oversight would likely have to take extra steps to get private bugs migrated no matter what | 22:21 |
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| johnsom | Any word on the email notification issue? I have people complaining. It's getting to the point of considering moving back to launchpad.... | 23:23 |
| fungi | johnsom: what was the email notification issue? messages not being delivered? | 23:23 |
| johnsom | fungi No notifications are coming out of storyboard. | 23:23 |
| johnsom | Nobody is getting notified of updates to bugs, comments, etc. | 23:24 |
| SotK | fungi: yeah, seemingly barely anyone gets email notifications from storyboard recently other than me | 23:24 |
| fungi | i expect it has to do with some e-mail domains rejecting delivery | 23:24 |
| fungi | for example i'm seeing this in the mta logs for @gmail.com addresses: | 23:24 |
| fungi | "SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [173.194.200.26]: 550-5.7.1 [23.253.85.155] The IP you're using to send mail is not authorized to\n550-5.7.1 send email directly to our servers. Please use the SMTP relay at your\n550-5.7.1 service provider instead. Learn more at\n550 5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NotAuthorizedError t36si872977ote.504 - | 23:25 |
| fungi | gsmtp" | 23:25 |
| SotK | hm, is there some way we can solve that? | 23:26 |
| fungi | i'm investigating. i wonder if rackspace added some of its netblocks to a dnsbl or something we need to opt that specific address out of | 23:26 |
| fungi | yup, listed in pbl.spamhaus.org | 23:28 |
| fungi | https://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL1660430 | 23:28 |
| fungi | i love that sentence: "If you are not using normal email software but instead are running a mail server..." | 23:28 |
| fungi | as if running a mailserver is not normal | 23:29 |
| SotK | :D | 23:29 |
| johnsom | Hahaha. Well, that would probably explain it. Everyone I know that has complained is using gmail or a large corporation email address... | 23:29 |
| fungi | thank you rackspace for being hostile to your customers running mailservers | 23:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Ha ha interesting. | 23:30 |
| johnsom | You are welcome.... | 23:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Glad its not storyboard's fault. | 23:31 |
| fungi | just about done filing for an exception for the server | 23:31 |
| johnsom | Though I have to say, I think every public cloud provider does that. | 23:31 |
| fungi | unfortunate the internet has descended into such chaos | 23:32 |
| johnsom | Yep | 23:32 |
| * fungi shakes his cane a few more times for good measure | 23:32 | |
| johnsom | Never should have left uucp ! addressing | 23:33 |
| fungi | indeed, those were some of the funnest (and longest!) addresses | 23:33 |
| fungi | though not as bad as fidomail routing | 23:33 |
| diablo_rojo | For someone thats never actually had this issue before..So how do we get off the blacklist? | 23:33 |
| johnsom | Paperwork | 23:34 |
| diablo_rojo | oof | 23:34 |
| diablo_rojo | gross | 23:34 |
| fungi | i followed the url above to file necessary (digital at least) paperwork | 23:34 |
| fungi | The IP address has been added to the PBL Removals database. Please allow 30 minutes for servers around the world to update their data. Under normal circumstances, in approximately 30 minutes you should be able to send email directly to networks that use Spamhaus' Policy Block List system. | 23:34 |
| diablo_rojo | *fingers crossed* | 23:35 |
| johnsom | Grin, so probably a week for the corporate systems to update... lol | 23:35 |
| SotK | thank you fungi :) | 23:36 |
| fungi | i wouldn't be surprised if many of them need the cosysop to wander around and turn the crank every now and again | 23:36 |
| diablo_rojo | johnsom, good news is its being fixed :) | 23:36 |
| fungi | well, we _think_ it's being fixed | 23:37 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, true | 23:37 |
| johnsom | Yes! | 23:37 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, what email provider have you been using? | 23:37 |
| fungi | gmail just says "you're on a blacklist saying you don't have permission to send e-mail, but we're not going to tell you which one" and then i did some digging at senderbase.org | 23:37 |
| fungi | so hopefully that's what gmail was up about | 23:37 |
| fungi | anyway, for anybody who needs to check this sort of thing in the future, queries like https://www.talosintelligence.com/reputation_center/lookup?search=storyboard.openstack.org are what i usually end up looking at | 23:38 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: my email in storyboard is my codethink.co.uk one | 23:39 |
| * SotK bookmarks that | 23:39 | |
| diablo_rojo | Ah yeah that makes sense. | 23:39 |
| fungi | i run my own mailservers for my personal addresses and use those pretty much exclusively, so tend to not run into these sorts of delivery issues | 23:40 |
| johnsom | I will let you know if I start getting them. I will poke a story tomorrow either way to see if I get something. | 23:44 |
| diablo_rojo | johnsom, thanks for having patience with us. I really appreciate it. | 23:47 |
| johnsom | Ha, I think I have more patience than the other folks bugging me about it. | 23:47 |
| johnsom | They were getting upset at each other for not responding to comments on stories | 23:48 |
| diablo_rojo | johnsom, its interesting learning how differen projects handle things. I didn't really notice the email issue because I never really paid attention to the lp emails. | 23:50 |
| diablo_rojo | I would just go look at my review inbox in gerrit and pick what to review from there | 23:51 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it's all about the comments / updates on the stories. | 23:51 |
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