Wednesday, 2017-06-14

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hidekazuhello, storyboard developers.00:17
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hidekazui am member of watcher  project.00:18
hidekazuhow can we know series and milestones?00:18
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hidekazuit seems not possible.00:19
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hidekazui want to know that is by design or not.00:19
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diablo_rojo_phonhidekazu I would suggest the use of tags? It's up to your project how you want to organize tasks.00:38
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hidekazudiablo_rojo_phon: thanks proposing.  can we choose list by tags?00:48
diablo_rojo_phonYep :) You can set up a list to pull in everything with a certain tag.00:49
diablo_rojo_phonhidekazu: ^^00:53
hidekazudiablo_rojo_phon: hmm.. BTW, can i try storyboard?  gerrit has sandbox. but i can not find in storyboard.00:55
diablo_rojo_phonhidekazu, Yes, storyboard has a sandbox too. Let me grab the link.00:57
hidekazudiablo_rojo_phon: nice!00:57
diablo_rojo_phonhttps://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/00:57
diablo_rojo_phonThere you go :)00:57
hidekazudiablo_rojo_phon: i will introduce this site to our members.00:58
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diablo_rojo_phonhidekazu: that would be wonderful! Thank you :)01:16
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SotKanyone around for a storyboard meeting today?19:00
fungiheh, i looked in #openstack-meeting but not in here19:06
* SotK goes into there19:07
fungimeant to double-check my facts on my reply to the release automation thread here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118307.html19:09
fungiif anybody has time to skim that and maybe correct me19:10
* SotK has a look19:10
fungithanks!19:10
fungiin particular, i suggested adding release details to task notes and pontificated about the possibility of creating another (closed) task state called "released" which the release tools can set19:12
SotKthe facts you asserted are correct, and both of those ideas seem fairly sensible to me19:17
SotKif a "released" task status would be useful it would be trivial to add one19:18
SotKthe only issue I could see is folk wondering "what is the difference between released and merged?", but I think that is easily explained and understood19:19
SotK(it also seems to me like it would be useful, since we have no nice support for anything like that in sb at the moment, and I suspect we should)19:19
SotKthe task note thing seems a bit workaroundy too, but short of "redo the implementation of milestones to be something that matches an understanding of a release milestone" I don't see a better solution19:21
fungiwell, the milestone mechanism in lp isn't so great either. the release team gave up using it because of the requirement to configure per-project series and the general terribleness of the lp api around it19:28
fungiapparently some projects still use it for manual signaling on (mostly non-bug-related) tasks19:29
fungibut there's no release integration to update task targets after release to the correct milestones or anything19:30
SotKheh, then given I have no good thoughts on how it should look in storyboard, I'll not contemplate it much further yet19:31
fungiso no guarantee it's correct19:31
fungiyup. basically what the release scripts _used_ to do was go through open bugs matching the milestone which was just tagged and retarget them to the next milestone19:32
fungiand some teams still do that themselves on an individual basis19:33
fungibut all the release tools do any longer is leave a bug comment if a commit claiming to close that bug merged between the previous tag and the new one19:33
fungiso for feature parity with how teams are using milestones in lp today, story tags are probably fine (you can't tag tasks right?)19:35
SotKyep, it certainly sounds like story tags are fine for this19:38
SotK(indeed you cannot tag tasks)19:38
fungithe way lp works, you can target each bugtask to a different milestone, but other than backports (which will generally just appear in the next point release after they merge) there's not much reason for multiple bugtasks since you can only have one per series (git branch in our case)19:43
fungii expect the openstack projects that are actually using the milestone features of lp only target master branch tasks anyway19:44
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