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| SotK | morning storyboard! | 08:37 |
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| Zara | morning! | 09:09 |
| Zara | you're up early | 09:09 |
| SotK | I am | 09:10 |
| Zara | haha | 09:10 |
| SotK | it feels good :D | 09:10 |
| Zara | cool, every time I need to wake up early for something, I'll just ask you to do it instead :P | 09:11 |
| Zara | hm, wonder if zuul folks would find an automatic board more suited to their needs | 09:14 |
| SotK | is there some backscroll which triggered that? | 09:16 |
| Zara | oh, mailing list | 09:16 |
| Zara | boards are hard for them to use atm because of ACLs (fair enough since we don't yet have the 'openstack users' group or a way to attach a team to a board), so for now the plan is for people to update the status of tasks and SpamapS to update the board to reflect | 09:17 |
| Zara | so if it's currently being used to visualise status, automatic might work better, though the tags-not-to-tasks thing might be the trouble there | 09:18 |
| SotK | yeah, it sounds like SpamapS is currently acting as a human worklist filter | 09:19 |
| SotK | but I'm not sure our current filters allow the query they want | 09:19 |
| SotK | ("Tasks with status Foo in stories tagged with zuulv3") | 09:20 |
| Zara | yep, if it's 'tasks in stories tagged x' | 09:20 |
| Zara | snap | 09:20 |
| SotK | :) | 09:20 |
| Zara | ish, I was just assuming status | 09:20 |
| Zara | gah, I knew that bug would be painful | 09:20 |
| SotK | so I feel like this raises two pieces of work that need doing | 09:20 |
| SotK | 1) finishing the board/worklist permissions to use teams | 09:20 |
| SotK | 2) adding the ability to filter tasks by story tag | 09:21 |
| Zara | that's where I'm leaning, though I should ask more about they're using it | 09:21 |
| Zara | well one of us should ask more, my thought is that I can probably get to it first | 09:21 |
| SotK | I'm not entirely happy with worklist filters and how they are different from the browse API | 09:22 |
| SotK | hmm, reading that email I wonder if there is a desire for a different type of board than our current public/private | 09:25 |
| SotK | as in, public-and-publically-editable | 09:25 |
| SotK | probably something worth chatting with folk about | 09:26 |
| Zara | that's the other option, figured you could get the same effect with 'public and team 'all users'', but it depends what's easiest to implement any time soon | 09:28 |
| Zara | I agree there's desire for it | 09:28 |
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| * Zara ponders feasibility of task_tags - field for tasks in db; nothing corresponds in UI; maps story tag(s) to the tasks in that story. then could filter on that for tasks and just call it 'tags' in the ui when applying filter. | 09:51 | |
| Zara | *nothing corresponds in story detail ui | 09:52 |
| SotK | meh, we can just do the same thing without a database field | 09:53 |
| Zara | heh, I defer to your expertise | 09:53 |
| SotK | (since tasks have a story_id and we map tags to stories somehow, we can just do a join using that) | 09:55 |
| Zara | true, I thought it might get complex following the mappings, but then I don't really like the idea of making the db massive either | 09:55 |
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| Zara | seems simple enough, anyway | 09:56 |
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| SpamapS | Zara SotK I have many thoughts on work boards and story tags, I've been taking notes. | 13:22 |
| SpamapS | An automatic board for tasks of stories with a tag would indeed be super useful. | 13:24 |
| SotK | SpamapS: It'd be great to see those notes sometime :) | 13:28 |
| SotK | I'll bump filtering tasks by story tag up my priority list and hopefully get to it relatively soon | 13:28 |
| SpamapS | SotK: one thing I'd really really like is a log of changes. | 13:42 |
| SpamapS | So if the board was automatically generated, that would suffice | 13:42 |
| SotK | SpamapS: there is currently a log of changes, its just not displayed in the UI anywhere | 13:45 |
| SotK | https://storyboard.openstack.org/api/v1/events?board_id=41 and https://storyboard.openstack.org/api/v1/events?worklist_id=155 for example (worklist 155 being the backlog lane in that board) | 13:46 |
| * SotK realises the first query should probably return events for the lanes too | 13:47 | |
| SpamapS | SotK: oh cool! | 13:48 |
| SpamapS | that's exactly the data I was hoping to see | 13:49 |
| SpamapS | so yeah, if that makes it in to the UI some time that's double plus extra points | 13:50 |
| SpamapS | (having it is more important than making it easy to see... there are just times I need to know who moved a card) | 13:50 |
| SotK | good :) | 13:50 |
| SpamapS | SotK: another thing.. the story vs. task icon is _way_ too similar. | 13:50 |
| SotK | yup, the plan was always to put it in the UI somewhere, we just haven't had time to figure it out yet | 13:50 |
| SpamapS | They both just look like bulleted lists | 13:51 |
| SotK | SpamapS: yeah, I don't like the task icon and wish I could find a better one | 13:53 |
| SpamapS | how about a thumbtack? | 13:56 |
| SpamapS | http://bit.ly/2fkhhjU | 13:56 |
| SpamapS | SotK: ^ something like that? | 13:56 |
| SpamapS | task.. tack.. ? | 13:57 |
| SpamapS | https://cdn0.iconfinder.com/data/icons/planing-and-organization/100/12-512.png <-- another possibility | 13:58 |
| SpamapS | just something that isn't the same thing... 3 lines stacked on eachother | 13:58 |
| Zara | we currently use fontawesome for icons, so it'd be good to have a look through that library and see if there's something you'd prefer that we're not using elsewhere | 14:02 |
| Zara | we didn't want to get stuck bikeshedding task icons and nothing stood out, so we deferred it, but I don't think any of us like it being the same thing | 14:02 |
| Zara | here's the link: http://fontawesome.io/icons/ | 14:04 |
| Zara | oh, although we're using version 4.5 at the moment, so the newest ones won't be there (and we should update sometime) | 14:04 |
| SotK | it won't be an issue to update :) | 14:07 |
| Zara | (oh, I was thinking of worklists/boards icons being the one we didn't want to bikeshed, but I bet that's the reasoning behind many earlier icon design decisions, too) | 14:07 |
| SotK | yeah, I'm pretty sure its the reason for the task icon | 14:08 |
| SotK | which used to be a tag icon, which was handy due to being different, but not so handy due to being a tag | 14:08 |
| Zara | aha, that was it | 14:09 |
| Zara | I think I was actually the one who patched that... yay, hivemind | 14:11 |
| Zara | (though maybe I wasn't) | 14:11 |
| Zara | nope, it was you, I think I just noticed it then | 14:15 |
| Zara | oh no it was me, I can't read | 14:15 |
| Zara | it doesn't matter at all | 14:16 |
| Zara | it was just bothering me | 14:16 |
| Zara | oh, I forgot to ping; will repeat with ping since the above is waffly (sorry) | 14:25 |
| Zara | SpamapS: 14:02 < Zara> we currently use fontawesome for icons, so it'd be good to have a | 14:26 |
| Zara | look through that library and see if there's something you'd | 14:26 |
| Zara | prefer that we're not using elsewhere | 14:26 |
| Zara | 14:02 < Zara> we didn't want to get stuck bikeshedding task icons and nothing | 14:26 |
| Zara | stood out, so we deferred it, but I don't think any of us like it | 14:26 |
| Zara | being the same thing | 14:26 |
| Zara | 14:04 < Zara> here's the link: http://fontawesome.io/icons/ | 14:26 |
| Zara | (we currently use v 4.5 but can update to 4.7 easily enough if needed) | 14:26 |
| SpamapS | Zara: oh cool, I'll look at those icons. | 14:26 |
| Zara | np :) | 14:27 |
| SpamapS | What if you made story http://fontawesome.io/icon/book/ ? | 14:28 |
| Zara | heh, I think I'd be fine with that; I can't think of anything else it would get confused with. I'm not particularly attached to anything as long as we make sure our users know about it so they can find things. | 14:31 |
| Zara | there are bonus points if you can find a good icon for boards and/or worklists (we're currently reusing the tasks icon for those) | 14:32 |
| Zara | I don't know that the bonus points count towards anything, but they're there | 14:33 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | for anyone bothered by strange looking board cards, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393500/ fixes it! | 18:54 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | *strange-looking | 18:54 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | it has a +2 but is in need of +1s | 18:54 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | meanwhile, angular update has +1s but no +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384532/ | 18:55 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | why must the world be this way | 18:55 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, and I thought this had gone in, but apparently it's also awaiting +1s https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397341/ | 18:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that is a patch to update our installation docs | 18:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so that they are correct | 18:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | most people can work out the problem if that's missing, but it would catch a new developer out | 18:57 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm probably going to be around-but -distracted this evening | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make subheading more succint https://review.openstack.org/399195 | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | the exclamation mark might be a bit much | 19:14 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and yes, I have gone back on myself with that | 19:14 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I saw it and it bothered me. | 19:14 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | that page definitely needs some love | 19:16 |
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