Friday, 2016-06-17

dmsimard^ I want this too02:10
SotKmorning storyboard07:50
SotKI want it too fwiw!07:50
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Zaramorning, storyboard!09:14
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openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Allow tags to be filtered by name  https://review.openstack.org/33102710:41
Zaraoh cool10:42
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make the Tags resource look for existing tags to filter by  https://review.openstack.org/33103010:43
SotKerm10:44
SotKthat doesn't work :)10:45
Zara\o/ thanks for letting me know10:45
ZaraI'll regard it as a piece of art10:45
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make the Tags resource look for existing tags to filter by  https://review.openstack.org/33103011:03
SotKnow it works11:03
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Use tag icon when tags are used as filter criteria  https://review.openstack.org/33105411:06
Zara:)11:54
Zaraso my question of today: what is the gerrit favicon depicting?11:59
Zaranow I've noticed it, I can't un-notice it11:59
Zaraa search brings me to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Gerrit_icon.svg/768px-Gerrit_icon.svg.png . so it's a picture of a code review! sort of!12:01
Zaraand not, as I previously wondered, an alien caterpillar12:02
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pedroalvarezhah :)12:05
ZaraI don't envy the task of the person who was told 'we need an icon that represents a code review'12:06
pedroalvarezhehe, this is the favicon I did for my blog: http://pedro.alvarezpiedehierro.com/public/favicon.ico12:10
pedroalvarezas you can see, it represents me, and the fact of writing a blog12:10
pedroalvarezxD12:10
Zaraahahahaha12:10
Zarait looks nice, very professional!12:10
Zaralike an old newspaper or something12:10
ZaraI think it's the serifs xD12:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: New Favicon  https://review.openstack.org/32763912:14
pedroalvarezwooo!!!12:26
Zara:P12:28
Zaraand not a recheck needed12:28
pedroalvarezguess who is deploying that version12:29
Zarahahahaha12:29
pedroalvarez(little things make me really happy)12:29
ZaraxD12:29
ZaraI'm sorry I haven't checked the new timeline stuff yet, should definitely get to that todya12:29
Zara*today12:29
Zarahow are the ansible docs doing?12:29
ZaraI'm almost scared to ask xD12:29
pedroalvarezdeploying storyboard with ansible docs?12:30
Zarayeah12:30
Zarasorry, I was very vague12:30
pedroalvarezI spent some time updating the Ansible role, to stop depending in other roles (that was driving me crazy)12:31
Zara:)12:31
pedroalvarezand I believe I got it working, but never continued with docs or anything else12:32
Zarahahaha12:32
Zaraokay I'll try to test it sometime12:32
Zarahttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/worklist/76 is our current low-hanging-fruit list, seems to be a bit dusty12:34
Zarano SKDJFLKSAJFDLSJFALDSKFJAS it's becuase I didn't specify active stories12:35
Zaraargh the inability to edit filters argh12:35
Zarathere we go12:36
pedroalvarezwoo, new favicon! https://storyboard.baserock.org/#!/page/about12:37
Zaraheehee12:39
Zaraokay, noticed that in comments boxes on new events timeline, things can go outside the box horizontally (a picture that's too wide, or something with no spaces-- could happen with long urls. this is the same way things worked on the old timeline, it's just there wasn't a box in the first place12:49
Zarait's probably a matter for a more general patch that fixes this (ie: wraps things) in all the places it happens12:49
Zarasince making the box expand horizontally seems ott to me12:50
Zaraunless we have a reason for not wanting to wrap (makes things less pasteable?)12:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add a way to make time-moment not use am-time-ago  https://review.openstack.org/32947812:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Rework timeline events into a timeline  https://review.openstack.org/32723113:11
pedroalvarezshiny13:24
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Zara:)13:26
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SotK\o/14:01
Zara:)14:02
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SotKthat new favicon is so good15:01
Zaraokay but I want to iterate through 565 more designs just because15:03
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dmsimardoh, so many merges15:16
dmsimardare these deployed to the prod instance automatically ?15:16
Zarayeah15:16
Zarait'll take a few hours15:16
Zarawell, actually, it doesn't always15:17
Zarabut normally does15:17
pedroalvarezit's already in storyboard-dev at least15:17
Zara\o/15:17
dmsimardpagination merged yet ? :p15:17
SotKnot yet :)15:18
dmsimardah, soon (tm)15:18
SotKif we don't care about the fact that there will be slowdown when a story has multiple hundreds of events then it can merge as-is15:19
SotKin reality I doubt we'll have stories with that many events, so it should be fine15:19
dmsimardwe can probably take an iterative approach, merge it and then address performance concerns in an upcoming patch15:20
dmsimardor else it'd never land ?15:20
ZaraI care, just to be annoying. unless it'll *really* delay merging the thing.15:20
dmsimardwhat approach do you want to take with the amount of events ? twitter-ish style endless scrolling ?15:20
* SotK doesn't really know yet, that makes permalinking hard again15:22
ZaraI'd rather put a timer on getting a better version, then if we don't manage it, accept slowdown on big stories. because I think we can expect more stories like https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000175 with more, and bigger, projects using it15:22
Zaraso fair enough if there's no progress, the slowdown is a fair tradeoff, but the lack of permalinks also isn't as big a problem when comments threads aren't very long15:24
Zaraso you're probably going to have the most people wanting the feature at the point at which people will see slowdown.15:25
SotKI think the main argument for having no pagination is finally having an end to the "where is my comment" stuff15:26
Zaratrue15:28
SotKI'm talking about seeing slowdown when there's like 500+ events too15:28
Zarawell, I'm not saying I'd block it. :) It's just on my 'I won't make it the first thing to review' list, to give potential new contributors from the web-development world time to come up with a better implementation.15:33
persiaWow!  2000175 makes me wish we'd thought harder about epochs earlier15:34
SotKyeah, me too15:34
ZaraI think in practice they'd work like tags, but with more fields ( description and things)15:34
Zaraat least when I tried to map things out, that's where they ended up15:35
Zaraso it might not be the trickiest thing in the world for someone to add on later, someday15:35
Zara(each tag has an id, tags are applied at story level and a tag can go across multiple stories.)15:36
Zaraso idk, epic column with 'title, description, stories affected'. alternatively, use a board as an epic, and just put stories in it related to a goal.15:38
SotKI was going to say, maybe an epic is just a worklist with a description15:39
Zarayeah, I think it is.15:40
Zarawhere as a social convention you only list stories in it. (or not, that makes sense to me tho)15:40
SotKI don't really like the worklist UI as a way to represent an epic though15:41
SotKI envisage something more like the story view15:41
SotKin which the stories are where the tasks are15:41
SotKand the stories can be expanded to see what tasks they contain, and the status of those tasks15:42
Zarait's just a grouping mechanism, afaik, you're not doing anything too exciting with it at that level. so you'd probably want something like a tree view15:42
Zarasnappish I thiiink15:42
SotKyeah, I think we have the same thought there15:42
Zarawe may differ on the bit where I think the ui should include a button that yells 'EPIC!' when clicked, and showers the screen with drifting confetti and stars15:45
SotK:D15:45
SotKI think it should involve at least one map at the start of each epic15:45
Zarawe also need characters15:46
Zaraan epic is about the people15:46
SotKindeed, the people are the personas who do things in stories15:49
Zaralet's have one beowulf per epic, whatever the historical period15:50
persiaCareful with being too overt about BDD: the tool has to also be useful for other folk.16:00
persia(plus proper BDD requires lots of zuul support)16:01
ZaraI'm being sarcastic from 16:45 onwards16:02
persiaYour sarcasm reads remarkably like some people's pedantic methodology :)16:02
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Zara:) I think if you depend on a specific methodology, you're in more trouble than the methodology can help with.16:06
ZaraI assume pedants just want to sell courses16:07
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openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add the ability to permalink to a comment  https://review.openstack.org/28907816:26
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Remove pagination for timeline events  https://review.openstack.org/32768216:26
SotKnow with highlighting!16:33
SotKdmsimard: ^16:33
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul was restarted for a software upgrade; events between 16:08 and 16:30 were missed, please recheck any changes uploaded during that time16:34
Zaraooh, highlighting! :D16:35
pedroalvarezI think SotK is the real king in the north16:35
bethwhiteKitN?16:35
dmsimardHIGHLIGHTING!16:35
* dmsimard looks16:36
SotKI think zuul missed it so no draft yet16:36
dmsimardoh, not built yet16:36
* dmsimard looks in a couple minutes >_<16:36
Zarahe's the son of the king16:36
SotKD:16:36
ZaraIT'S YOUR NAME16:36
pedroalvarez:O16:37
Zarayou can be king in the north west if you really want, but the king in the north earned his crown16:37
Zara(context for those confused by this oddness: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000407 )16:39
pedroalvarezI love the current state of that story :)16:41
bethwhiteAhhhhh16:42
bethwhiteThanks Zara16:42
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anteayaZara: can you write all the stories?17:05
anteayayou write such great stories17:05
Zaraanteaya: :D thanks. I'll get an openstack fan-following and then branch out into literature xD17:08
anteayaha ha ha17:08
anteayaI'm already there17:08
Zaradeeply moving sagas about task-tracking software, don't miss out.17:09
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anteayawhat wiki do you use for http://wiki.baserock.org/20:13
SotKikiwiki20:13
SotKiirc20:13
anteayathanks20:15
anteayaI'm also fine with one big long slow page for stuff like http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23storyboard/%23storyboard.2016-06-17.log.html#t2016-06-17T15:22:5620:15
anteayaand dealing with complaints if they happen, when they happen20:16
anteayapermalinks will help a lot here20:16
anteayayay I can permalink to a comment: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/78/289078/3/check/gate-storyboard-webclient-js-draft/811f3c9//dist/#!/story/11#comment-220:20
dmsimardanteaya: not only can you permalink20:49
dmsimardbut it's yellow highlighted!20:49
anteayait is so20:50
anteayapermalink with highlighting, yay!20:50
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