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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Fix and extend the object model documentation https://review.openstack.org/317620 | 10:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Close card-details modal when clicking on the Story link https://review.openstack.org/318779 | 10:16 |
| pedroalvarez | :) | 10:17 |
| Zara | :) morning, storyboard! | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make the docs-draft build point to storyboard-dev https://review.openstack.org/318702 | 11:43 |
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| Zara | anyone got a moment to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304562/ ? | 12:24 |
| Zara | hm, I forgot about teams pagination patch, sorry | 12:25 |
| Zara | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307712/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307756/ still need rebasing (+ former tested in instance with a bunch of data) | 12:26 |
| Zara | yay spring-cleaning | 12:26 |
| Zara | ooh, spec update | 12:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Avoid false positives when filtering projects by subscriber https://review.openstack.org/307756 | 12:40 |
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| Zara | hm, I kinda wish there was a sb status for 'in review but needs a rework' so I wouldn't have things come up on my list of things to review | 13:08 |
| Zara | but would also signal that people could find the work somewhere if they wanted | 13:09 |
| SotK | if it needs a rework change the status back to in progress maybe? | 13:09 |
| Zara | maybe that's what we should use the progress status for | 13:09 |
| Zara | snappish | 13:09 |
| Zara | it was a slow snap but I didn't see it | 13:09 |
| Zara | okay, social convention, that's how I'm using 'progress' from now on \o/ | 13:10 |
| persia | +1 on that social convention | 13:14 |
| Zara | (I've updated the board a bit, made new lane for it but have titled it 'review-needs-rework' rather than 'progress' so I don't forget what it means immediately) | 13:16 |
| SotK | I'd probably just have moved things back into either "doing" or "backlog" in the board | 13:17 |
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| persia | I think the kanban convention of "doing" matches the task status of "in progress" | 13:17 |
| Zara | backlog wfm, I wanted to avoid 'doing' since it implies it's being worked on currently and then it's less helpful for managing workload | 13:18 |
| * Zara makes the new lane vanish again :P | 13:20 | |
| Zara | I wish every sb user could have their own notepad, accessible from every page. | 13:23 |
| * SotK wonders what for? | 13:24 | |
| Zara | because atm sb is good for recording things, but less good for planning things, as there's no quick place to scrawl notes (task notes are closest, but that requires navigating to a specific story). so I spend a lot of time tabbing between notepad and sb in order to write things up. it's not really a 'sb should have this', though, more a 'I would like it better if it had this' | 13:26 |
| SotK | I suspect there already exist better tools than storyboard for planning things in note form (etherpads, text editors, physical notepads) | 13:28 |
| SotK | unless I misunderstand what you mean by "planning things" | 13:28 |
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| Zara | yeah, the point wouldn't be to replace all the functionality of those, more to let people keep notes in one place. but I could see it being very susceptible to feature-creep. | 13:30 |
| pedroalvarez | maybe... if you could access your notes from other places? like from a board? of from "task assigned to you"? | 13:33 |
| Zara | yeah, I was thinking how much I wanted a button in the header that'd open up 'my notes', and those would be the same everywhere. I could only have one, and it wouldn't be shareable (other tools will do that much better). used exactly the same way as the notepad I use atm, just slightly less clicking to get to it. xD | 13:35 |
| Zara | I refrain from saying that storyboard should have this, though, as for all I know it's a workflow unique to me. | 13:36 |
| anteaya | Zara: like notes accessible from the dashboard | 13:39 |
| anteaya | ftw I use tomboy notes for this purpose | 13:40 |
| Zara | anteaya: right, but in my mind it would be accessible from any page, so that the user doesn't have to navigate away from a story if they remember something relevant to it. | 13:41 |
| anteaya | https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Tomboy | 13:41 |
| anteaya | fair enough | 13:41 |
| Zara | yeah, I just have a notepad open all day every day. it gets used for all sorts of misc. (same when I'm doing stuff on a home computer) | 13:42 |
| Zara | I was just thinking more generally about what steps one would have to cut out to manage workflow completely in storyboard; for me there are two things-- irc (never changing!) and notepad (could potentially go). | 13:43 |
| persia | I think that's a dashboard app, not SB. I'd want my dashboard to also show stuff in other tools (e.g. gerrit) | 13:43 |
| persia | Folk seem to like things like couchdb as a notepad-like backstore. | 13:44 |
| SotK | persia: +1 for stuff in other tools | 13:44 |
| persia | I also think etherpad won't go away: there is lots of value to real-time collaboration | 13:44 |
| SotK | I used tomboy notes a long time ago, I don't really know why I stopped | 13:44 |
| persia | I stopped because it defaulted to a backing store I didn't trust, and I couldn't be bothered to reconfigure it :) | 13:45 |
| anteaya | I don't think it is a failing of storyboard that users would also use other tools simultaneously while using storyboard | 13:45 |
| anteaya | I think it is a feature that you can | 13:45 |
| persia | +1 | 13:45 |
| SotK | I agree | 13:45 |
| anteaya | SotK: I love the fact that I can import them across laptop changes | 13:45 |
| persia | One of the nice things about the REST API is that it is relatively easy to integrate SB data into arbitrary dashboards | 13:45 |
| anteaya | new laptop, all my old tomboy notes | 13:45 |
| Zara | yeah, I don't think that it's a weakness of storyboard per se. It does make it harder for me to work with it. | 13:47 |
| Zara | what I really need is a window manager that lets me make my notes a sticky and magically adjusts other windows to fit around them | 13:48 |
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| Zara | hm, just got a 500 on the s.o.o project groups page, refreshed without thinking so idk what was up | 13:51 |
| persia | Zara: I tried one of those once: it isn't all better (one sometimes wants more pixels for apps, and less for notes) | 13:52 |
| Zara | hm, I wonder how much a tray like windows' would help me here. | 13:54 |
| anteaya | what window manager do you use? | 13:57 |
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| Zara | don't actually know, it's a gnome desktop environment if that helps? | 14:00 |
| * anteaya shrugs | 14:04 | |
| anteaya | I'll be emotionally supportive, how about that? | 14:05 |
| anteaya | go Zara | 14:05 |
| Zara | yeah, gnome shell, there are extensions and things but nothing seems right, probably not worth looking for ages | 14:07 |
| Zara | I just hit critical irritation today :P | 14:07 |
| anteaya | I understand | 14:08 |
| pedroalvarez | anteaya: which one is your favourite? :) | 14:15 |
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| anteaya | whatever shows up with my ubuntu install | 14:16 |
| anteaya | I just take the default | 14:16 |
| pedroalvarez | unity then | 14:18 |
| pedroalvarez | I think that's the one I like less | 14:18 |
| anteaya | what was the one before unity? | 14:18 |
| pedroalvarez | gnome2 I think | 14:19 |
| SotK | yep | 14:19 |
| pedroalvarez | that was great :) | 14:19 |
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| fungi | i'm preparing to, as we discussed last week, set up an ubuntu 14.04 lts server to replace the current 12.04 server running storyboard.openstack.org | 14:53 |
| fungi | are there any safety issues with launching it? presumably it's not going to lock any tables in the db unless someone actually logs into the webui and interacts with it, right? | 14:54 |
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| fungi | (or makes requests of the api or something) | 14:54 |
| SotK | I'd imagine not, but I've not actually tested two instances using the same database before | 14:55 |
| fungi | well, i'll give you a heads up when it's booted just in case | 14:55 |
| fungi | i've set the ttl on the a/aaaa records down to 5 minutes, so we can make a dns cut-over pretty quickly (maybe more or less seamless) | 14:56 |
| Zara | \o/ | 14:56 |
| Zara | (I also don't know of any issues, but then I have less theory than SotK anyway) | 14:57 |
| Zara | so that's not very helpful of me. | 14:57 |
| fungi | i'm going to stick with 4gb ram for the replacement since it's looking sufficient on the existing server http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=3180&rra_id=all | 14:58 |
| Zara | yeah, it seems to be fine | 15:00 |
| Zara | thank you | 15:00 |
| fungi | once use ramps up, assuming this replacement goes as smoothly as i'm expecting, we can easily launch replacements with greater memory capacity | 15:03 |
| Zara | okay, that's good to know; I don't know what's a usual capacity for the amount of use we're expecting, so I'm happy with anything that lets us adjust as we find out. | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Add offset/limit pagination for teams https://review.openstack.org/318139 | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: WIP: Replace placeholder teams UI with the real thing https://review.openstack.org/320037 | 16:24 |
| Zara | :0 | 16:26 |
| * krotscheck just enabled emails. | 16:32 | |
| krotscheck | ++ | 16:32 |
| Zara | :D | 16:32 |
| Zara | they get spammy fast, recommend setting up a filter asap | 16:33 |
| krotscheck | Zara Already did so. | 16:36 |
| Zara | :) | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | Zara: Going to debug a few things on them. There's some email headers in there that should permit better threading. | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | Also, the batch template may be useful. | 16:36 |
| Zara | :D | 16:39 |
| Zara | (I'd say more but it's nearly the end of the day for me and I haven't been able to concentrate all day anyway \o/) | 16:41 |
| krotscheck | Go go go. | 16:43 |
| krotscheck | Go do things that will allow you to concentrate tomorrow | 16:43 |
| Zara | okay! :D | 16:44 |
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| Zara | 'night! | 16:56 |
| anteaya | hi | 16:58 |
| anteaya | so the infra team doesn't have a puppet-cacti repo represented in storyboard | 16:58 |
| anteaya | and we need one | 16:58 |
| anteaya | what has to happen to grow such a repo in storyboard? | 16:58 |
| anteaya | oh wait, I don't know as we have a repo, puppet-cact | 16:59 |
| anteaya | i | 16:59 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: project-config "use-storyboard" needs to be set to true. | 17:00 |
| anteaya | I'll do that | 17:01 |
| anteaya | turns out we don't have the repo created yet, I have to do that | 17:01 |
| pedroalvarez | threading sounds exciting | 17:24 |
| pedroalvarez | I failed to understand how to implement that | 17:24 |
| krotscheck | pedroalvarez: I can talk about a generic way to do threading. | 17:25 |
| krotscheck | Are we talking python threading or javascript threading? | 17:26 |
| krotscheck | Oh, threading. | 17:28 |
| krotscheck | Email threading. | 17:28 |
| krotscheck | Judging from my inbox, it's already threading by task ID, which is nice. | 17:28 |
| persia | Is that because the headers are set correctly, or us your client conflating based on subject? | 17:34 |
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| SotK | I don't recall it threading by task ID for me, so I suspect its the client | 17:37 |
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| fungi | just a heads up, i successfully booted a replacement storyboard.o.o running trusty. it's not switched over in dns yet, but let me know if you notice any weird behavior on the current production one in case having the new one running at the same time is causing any issues | 17:49 |
| fungi | i'll working on coordinate the dns change once i finish eating lunch | 17:50 |
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