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| Zara | I'll try to review the markdown patch this afternoon; quick look at it on Friday suggested it was fine but I like to err on the side of caution.:) | 09:35 |
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| SotK | \o/ thanks :) | 09:35 |
| Zara | and hopefully now that flat drama is over I will be able to focus for a change. | 09:35 |
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| SotK | excellent :D | 09:42 |
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| * SotK starts thinking about how to discover kanban boards and worklists in the UI | 10:35 | |
| SotK | My current thoughts are a list of boards and worklists related to a project on that project's detail page | 10:36 |
| SotK | plus a list of any boards/worklists a user can see on that user's dashboard somewhere | 10:36 |
| SotK | I worry about the dashboard becoming cluttered though | 10:36 |
| SotK | Does anyone have opinions on that? Or thoughts on other ways they could be found? | 10:38 |
| Zara | hm, not sure. I can see why people would quickly want to see worklists related to a project | 10:43 |
| Zara | see if it's active etc | 10:43 |
| Zara | I think there definitely has to be a link to a user's own worklists on the dashboard, fwiw | 10:43 |
| Zara | I think of a dashboard as being 'your stuff', so you have at least your subscriptions and your todo list there. | 10:44 |
| Zara | I'm less sure the detail page is the right place for worklists to be linked, but I guess it comes down to how people use it | 10:46 |
| Zara | might need to ask around and find out where people would expect it to be? | 10:46 |
| Zara | the projects (containing stories) themselves might convey all the information that someone is likely to want from a worklist | 10:48 |
| Zara | unless that person is trying to work out what a specific team of people are doing | 10:48 |
| Zara | in which case might make sense to look them up via users. ehhhhhhh I'm not sure. | 10:48 |
| SotK | Zara: the information you can't get from the list of stories in a project at the moment is priority | 10:52 |
| SotK | so I'm imagining a "priorities for liberty" list or similar being linked on the detail page | 10:53 |
| SotK | looking up via users is interesting | 10:53 |
| SotK | that would probably be useful from a project management perspective, for a manager to look at information on what team members are up to | 10:54 |
| Zara | yeah, I thought different groups would have different priorities, so I'm wondering how we'd get a list on a project page that was informative but wasn't massive. | 10:54 |
| Zara | maybe it'd be better to say the number of (public) worklists a story was currently part of, or something? and then one could search whose? | 10:55 |
| SotK | perhaps if there was a way for people (ie. the PTL) to choose which worklists to display on the detail page? | 10:56 |
| * SotK wonders if persia has opinions on this too? | 10:57 | |
| persia | I don't believe in default worklists: I think it's entirely a personal matter. | 11:00 |
| persia | If I have a team, I would probably share the URL to my worklists on a wiki page or something. | 11:01 |
| persia | If I'm looking at a story, I might be curious as to which worklists the story belongs | 11:02 |
| persia | The idea being that if I think I might want to work on something, I would be curious who else had the same feeling. | 11:02 |
| persia | For a logged-in user, having a list of one's personal worklists is probably important. | 11:03 |
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| SotK | ok then, that makes sense | 11:18 |
| Zara | I noticed there was a story about teams being able to upload things to storyboard (like UI mockups, etc). | 11:25 |
| Zara | might be a useful thing to have in the future, though I'm not sure that storyboard is the place for it. | 11:26 |
| Zara | but for worries like dashboard clutter, could be handy. | 11:27 |
| persia | I've always been a proponent of having storyboard contain links to other things, rather than uploading content. | 11:59 |
| persia | That said, I never found a good way to do UI mockups. I *wanted* them to be candidates submitted for review, but I never found a good way to cause UX folk to work effectively with git. | 12:00 |
| Zara | Okay, I'd be inclined to agree that storyboard should just link to things, tbh. perhaps openstack needs a dedicated project for storing UI mockups (and so on)... I guess there might be one somewhere already; there are so many openstack projects! | 12:02 |
| persia | There is some special UX thing: I remember seeing a demo, but I don't remember the link | 12:03 |
| Zara | (as for working with git, I can see why it wouldn't really be present in many people's workflow, if the commandline isn't used as much for UX work. probably a question of getting better interfaces for non-commandline git, but iirc those are terrifying.) | 12:04 |
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| Zara | hmm, there's stuff listed here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/UX | 12:14 |
| Zara | I don't have an invision acct so I can't see much more about it rn. Not pressing, anyway. | 12:14 |
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| Zara | but it looks like invision's the tool the horizon team use, anyway. | 12:15 |
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| * SotK wonders how the above discussion on lists/boards fits in with this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Task_Lists | 12:59 | |
| SotK | (I guess that is where the idea for lists/boards linked on the project page came from) | 13:00 |
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| SotK | (also the "We want worklists" bit in here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Priority) | 13:03 |
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| Zara | hm, heading 'straw man' fills me with confidence in the argument xD | 13:41 |
| SotK | just noticed I changed completely the wrong thing in .eslintrc in that markdown patch... | 14:24 |
| Zara | hah I still haven't looked at it today ^^' | 14:24 |
| Zara | you could've gotten away with it | 14:24 |
| Zara | omg it took me forever but I got it working | 14:33 |
| Zara | I swear I just did the same loop/ if-else I tried on friday | 14:33 |
| Zara | but this time it worked | 14:33 |
| SotK | \o/ | 14:33 |
| * Zara shrugs and keeps shrugging until her shoulders function as wings and she flies off, or something. | 14:34 | |
| Zara | i can science. | 14:34 |
| Zara | now to test this until I inevitably discover that it's filling in the wrong stars or something. | 14:34 |
| * SotK crosses fingers | 14:34 | |
| Zara | I HEARD THERE WAS A SECRET CHORD, BLAH BLAH BLAH, HALLELUJAH | 14:35 |
| Zara | brb being a musical prodigy. | 14:36 |
| Zara | question-- I named my list of subscriptions 'subsList' as a shorthand while hacking around. I was going to change the name to something more sensible, but now that I think about it, I'm not sure it's that weird to start with. | 15:22 |
| Zara | subscriptionsList isn't much fun to type, and the line-length limit adds an extra challenge... | 15:22 |
| Zara | so, is this something I should change or not? | 15:23 |
| Zara | seems like it's clear what it is, but I'm too near this code to tell, really. | 15:23 |
| SotK | calling it `subscriptions` would probably be fine I think | 15:29 |
| Zara | okay, I think I avoided that because I didn't want to confuse it with 'subscription' in the subscribe directive | 15:30 |
| Zara | but it is the most sensible word for it. | 15:31 |
| persia | SotK: There exists a difference of opinion between myself and the authors of the Task_Lists page: I don't think there is anything special about a task list created by a release manager or a PTL, but others do. | 15:40 |
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| Zara | I probably won't get to review the markdown patch today | 16:28 |
| Zara | but the subscriptions stuff is all going well; could do with some tidying but it's functioning as expected so far. | 16:29 |
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| Zara | hm, stories are behaving a bit differently to projects... will look at this tomorrow. | 16:48 |
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