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| paulsherwood | SotK: would it be trivial to have a useful search list appear as homepage by default, rather than empty? | 12:56 |
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| paulsherwood | seems dumb to force users to click to see something | 12:56 |
| SotK | paulsherwood: probably, does the list of active stories seem sensible? | 12:58 |
| paulsherwood | SotK: yes, that would seem like a logical first step... ideally most recent activity at the top | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | unless someone else has other ideas? | 13:01 |
| persia | paulsherwood: Have you tried it when you are logged in: it might make more sense that way. | 13:12 |
| paulsherwood | persia: that's a different use-case :) | 13:13 |
| persia | For users who are not logged in, I think the projects page is likely to be most interesting. | 13:13 |
| persia | Although others might prefer the stories page. | 13:13 |
| paulsherwood | SotK: next up, what's with two search bars, and 'New story' plus 'Create a story' ? | 13:13 |
| persia | paulsherwood: Since it's OpenID, most folk are likely to be signed in most of the time. | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | persia: i disagree. | 13:14 |
| persia | paulsherwood: Why? Once one signs in, it is tricky to sign out. | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | i believe most folk will see the first page without being signed in, at least once :) | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | first impressions count | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | anyways, my own preference for how to improve uis is to try changes, get feedback, change again | 13:15 |
| paulsherwood | with as little friction on trying the changes as possible | 13:15 |
| persia | Ah, right, while the majority use is unlikely to be unlogged-in front-page, everyone encounters that once, so every user needs to be happy with that default. I withdraw my objections. | 13:15 |
| paulsherwood | i dislike changes getting bogged down in review by sw engineers who, by the time they're qualified to review, are no longer competent to assess how things appear to new users :) | 13:16 |
| SotK | paulsherwood: I think the difference is that the big search bar applies filters to the list of stories (or projects, if that's where you are), rather than searching like the small bar in the header does. | 13:19 |
| SotK | I don't know why there are two buttons to create a story on that page :) | 13:19 |
| * paulsherwood was commenting in general, not re storyboard. he's had lots of bitter experiences with users in other places | 13:23 | |
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| paulsherwood | SotK: do they do the same thing, or something different? | 13:23 |
| * paulsherwood discovers that after clicking on 'New story' while not logged in, he is routed to Ubuntuone sign in, from which 'back' doesn't work and hence escape is impossible | 13:25 | |
| paulsherwood | is that specific to your instance, SotK ? | 13:27 |
| * SotK gets a popup asking him to log in | 13:27 | |
| SotK | I get the popup on storyboard.openstack.org too | 13:27 |
| paulsherwood | yup, maybe it's the correct behaviour. just seems a bit odd to me,that's all | 13:28 |
| persia | It's an OpenID thing: it isn't safe to allow that sort of navigation, or one can fake it ith javascript. | 13:29 |
| SotK | paulsherwood: they do different things, start typing `st` for example in each one and the small box will start showing a list of things (eg tasks, stories, projects) with "st" in, and the big box will show a list of filters with "st" in (eg StoryStatus:Active) | 13:30 |
| SotK | oh hm, looks like the big box can be persuaded to perform a normal search too | 13:32 |
| SotK | paulsherwood: I managed to escape by clicking back twice in quick succession | 13:33 |
| paulsherwood | SotK: heh :) | 13:34 |
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| SotK | persia: http://86.166.184.10/ is now updated with the changes I made today, if you want to have a look | 17:58 |
| SotK | (it also doesn't hang for a minute when you first access it now) | 17:59 |
| SotK | for the curious, it was slow yesterday because I was running it with the live reload script which automatically refreshes stuff when the code changes | 18:05 |
| SotK | for some reason that was timing out when loading the page | 18:06 |
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| persia | SotK: As a layout, I like it. I think you need a storyboard patch to differentiate the different context preferences (as I can't seem to cause adjustment in the events timeline to do anything). | 19:41 |
| persia | Mind you, I'm testing not-logged-in, so maybe it's more complicated then I think. | 19:41 |
| persia | But to confirm, that was precisely the UI I imagined. | 19:41 |
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| * paulsherwood likes it too | 20:16 | |
| SotK | hm, thats weird, adjusting the events timeline seems to be working fine to me when not logged in | 20:17 |
| paulsherwood | is it possible to login to your instance? i get an error when i click that button | 20:18 |
| SotK | paulsherwood: ah, not from the public IP apparently, one moment | 20:19 |
| SotK | should work now | 20:20 |
| paulsherwood | tvm | 20:29 |
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