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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Working Directory fails consistenly. https://review.openstack.org/149454 | 01:46 |
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| yolanda | hi NikitaKonovalov, can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/147105 ? | 08:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aleksey proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Added oslo.utils to requirements https://review.openstack.org/148532 | 09:38 |
| yolanda | thx Nikia | 09:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add button to remove all recent events in dashboard https://review.openstack.org/147105 | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aleksey proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Controlling fields in requests with jsonschema https://review.openstack.org/149228 | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add extra confirmation when removing the last task of a story https://review.openstack.org/149588 | 11:39 |
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| yolanda | krotscheck, i found a quite interesting bug: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000129 | 11:48 |
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| yolanda | what do you think is the best approach? | 11:48 |
| yolanda | some generic modal box? or proper form validation on the webclient side? | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add missing subscription button to story detail https://review.openstack.org/149595 | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Refactor db api tests https://review.openstack.org/149622 | 13:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Fix access_token validation https://review.openstack.org/148477 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding pretty-tox https://review.openstack.org/149644 | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Added python storyboard client to docs. https://review.openstack.org/148722 | 15:15 |
| ssam2 | hello | 15:16 |
| ssam2 | anyone know off hand what 'No handlers could be found for logger "storyboard.db.projects_loader"' could be caused by? | 15:17 |
| ssam2 | trying to run `storyboard-db-manage load_projects ./projects.yml' | 15:17 |
| ssam2 | I have probably cocked something up in deployment and will definitely redeploy this instance eventually, but would like to avoid doing that now if possible.. | 15:18 |
| ssam2 | hmm, actually I can see my projects now | 15:19 |
| ssam2 | so, never mind :) | 15:19 |
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| krotscheck | yolanda: I’d dig into the http error message handler to see why it’s not catching those errors to start with. Once that starts working again we can look at improving on it. | 16:58 |
| yolanda | just try to file a story, with a 2-char title to debug it | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Added oslo.utils to requirements https://review.openstack.org/148532 | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding pretty-tox https://review.openstack.org/149644 | 17:05 |
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| yolanda | btw, krotscheck, what happened with your priv key at the end? | 17:26 |
| krotscheck | yolanda: I had a copy on a server, so I created a snapshot, booted it from a different keyset, and got it back. | 17:27 |
| krotscheck | And then I wiped the server. | 17:27 |
| krotscheck | And made a backup | 17:27 |
| yolanda | nice to know! | 17:28 |
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| krotscheck | I didn’t realize that this is a thing: http://www.iana.org/domains/reserved | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Controlling fields in requests with jsonschema https://review.openstack.org/149228 | 19:17 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: http://www.iana.org/reports is fascinating! | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Retrieve task statuses from the backend https://review.openstack.org/138389 | 19:21 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: Wow. | 19:24 |
| krotscheck | THat's. | 19:24 |
| krotscheck | wow. | 19:24 |
| krotscheck | The german TLD’s are amazing | 19:24 |
| gothicmindfood | right?? | 19:24 |
| krotscheck | Also, the chinese and japanese ones makes me wonder who manages to cram more meaning into the minimal number of characters. | 19:25 |
| krotscheck | oooh, I wonder if the foundation will register .openstack :) | 19:26 |
| krotscheck | (I should register .krotscheck) | 19:26 |
| krotscheck | Anyone have 200K lying around? | 19:27 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: holy crap, that's how much it is to register a TLD? | 19:28 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: It’s $183K application fee, and $25K/year after that | 19:29 |
| gothicmindfood | sheeesh | 19:30 |
| gothicmindfood | TLDs are only for rich people. | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Refactor db api tests https://review.openstack.org/149622 | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Fix access_token validation https://review.openstack.org/148477 | 19:37 |
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| krotscheck | Hey, gothicmindfood, are you going to the HI midcycyle? | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Working Directory fails consistenly. https://review.openstack.org/149454 | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: An experimental improvement on the dashboard event list. https://review.openstack.org/149127 | 22:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Parse event_info into JSON. https://review.openstack.org/149126 | 22:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Email Templating Engine https://review.openstack.org/147734 | 22:52 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: what is HI? | 23:32 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: Hidden Influencer. | 23:32 |
| krotscheck | Product group | 23:32 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: I wasn't planning on it | 23:33 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: Gotcha | 23:33 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: was hoping to ping wendar about notes, etc. & follow etherpads | 23:33 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: Was hoping someone I knew was going so they could take notes. | 23:33 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: there's a thing internal to HP next mon/tues that's also up in the air for me | 23:34 |
| wendar | krotscheck: I'll be there, but won't take many notes. (I will keep an eye out for storyboard-related things.) | 23:35 |
| krotscheck | wendar: Thanks :) | 23:36 |
| krotscheck | wendar: gothicmindfood has been working on a way to build priorities by consensus, has she pinged you about that? | 23:36 |
| wendar | yup, we've talked about it. It's worth catching up again as her thinking has evolved. | 23:37 |
| krotscheck | Brains do that. | 23:38 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: wendar not to get too TMI-y in an off-topic channel, but I pretty much bowed out of heavy product-wg participation because I think a) others have the beginning stuff covered, and b) I was a little ahead of myself (and the group) with my thinking around it | 23:39 |
| gothicmindfood | I think my priorities are around how things get done, not what specifically gets done, and I'm not sure that anyone else particularly cares about that. | 23:40 |
| gothicmindfood | at least not right now | 23:40 |
| gothicmindfood | (which could be totally fine - as it's early days in the group, and stuff is still getting sorted out) | 23:40 |
| krotscheck | That’s fair. | 23:43 |
| krotscheck | That’s probably where our own disconnect came from. I’m focused on doing at the moment, rather than figuring out how. | 23:43 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: in fairness, there's an existing culture of how things get done in openstack to guide you along your way :) | 23:44 |
| krotscheck | Not so much on the talking about how things get done. | 23:45 |
| gothicmindfood | well, yeah - I mean, in a way describing a culture is describing the invisible things that people agree on every day but never really talk about | 23:46 |
| krotscheck | tacit knowledge | 23:46 |
| gothicmindfood | maybe not invisible - maybe just not always easily apparent. | 23:46 |
| gothicmindfood | sure | 23:46 |
| gothicmindfood | there are huge differences between that tacit knowledge in the OpenStack development community, and what I saw at the session in Paris for product-wg | 23:47 |
| krotscheck | Yeah, there’s definitely a disconnect there. | 23:48 |
| gothicmindfood | how things get done for product/program managers is *quite* different than how things get done at OpenStack. | 23:48 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: You should propose a talk: “Product Unmanagement in Openstack" | 23:49 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: hahaha. | 23:49 |
| nibalizer | i read that first as puppet unmanagment with openstack | 23:49 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: did you get a chance to glance at my draft of the drift vis thing? | 23:49 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: luckily, wendar and other product-wg leaders have really great understandings of the dev culture in openstack, so they're doing some of the initial managing of that anyhow :) | 23:50 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: I have not | 23:50 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: Because I wiped most of my keys yesterday morning and spent most of the day recovering htem. | 23:50 |
| nibalizer | ouch | 23:51 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: That doesn’t prevent me from wanting to see that talk. | 23:52 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: First slide: “Don’t Try To Manage Openstack" | 23:52 |
| krotscheck | Second slide: “See Slide 1" | 23:52 |
| * krotscheck may be enjoying his autonomy a bit much | 23:54 | |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: :) I hear you | 23:54 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: there are two different talks in my head - one of that ilk, and another on how any open source movement can improve participation in quantity and quality over time given certain practices | 23:54 |
| gothicmindfood | that second one has a slide in it that says "I joined [open source movement] after my patch was rejected 16 times so I finally gave up on it ever landing" ~no one ever | 23:55 |
| gothicmindfood | spoiler alert: suggestion isn't to reject patches so many times, it's to change the story to "I joined [open source movement] because of all of the opportunities for learning and engagement that they had available" | 23:57 |
| gothicmindfood | it's to redirect psychological reinforcement from landing patches to making connections so you can land patches that are actually needed. | 23:57 |
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