Tuesday, 2020-06-23

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admin0who can help me about a startlinxg deployment scenario09:08
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sgwMorning all12:49
sgw1admin0: What's your question? I can try and help12:52
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admin0sgw, i want to test out startlingx ( in a real deployment scenairo ) meaning fully redundant setup13:53
admin0and want to know what recommendations are there13:53
admin0for example, is cinder needed in edge ?13:55
admin0https://docs.starlingx.io/deploy_install_guides/r3_release/bare_metal/dedicated_storage.html  -- so i use one iso to setup controllers as well as computes ..13:57
admin0worker - here this means hypervisors right ?13:58
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admin0so if i want to test all the failover and redundancy, i need  2 controllers + 2 compute + 2 storage = 6  in the main .. and then probably  1 controller + 1 worker in edge ?14:07
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sgw1admin0: yes, that would be an approach, you only need the single ISO to install controller-0, once up controller-0 can be used to install and provision the second controller, storage and worker nodes.14:09
sgw1Worker nodes are either bare metal or possibly a Virtual setup, but that's more for testing.14:11
admin0and in terms of network .. pxe is straightforward .. for pxe and ssh,    management network = storge (cinder/ceph) and monitoring ,14:12
admin0what network is east-west  ( traffic between vms over vxlan) and what network is north-south ( from vms to outside the cloud) ?14:12
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admin0also a question is .. unlike all other openstack projects that uses 3 controllers to prevent split brain situation, your docs only use 2 controllers .. how is HA achieved in this case and most imporant, how do you prevent a split brain situation ?14:15
admin0also the docs say 2 controllers on (min ) requirement, but does not give a (recommended) requirement14:16
admin0the OAM subnet .. is it equivalent to provider network ext-net ?14:17
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sgw1admin0: I am not completely sure I understand the question, but I have created a local setup with 3 networks, one for OAM(Internal connection to controllers only), one for Mgnt,(between Controllers, workers and storage) and one for Data (between workers and storage only)14:17
sgw1I guess it all depends on your actual needs and corporate polices.  I was able to do that with all 2 NIC boxes14:18
sgw1I am not a network topology person.14:19
admin0:)14:19
admin0ok14:19
admin0basically i am using openstack-ansible and openstack-kolla for a long time now .. and interested to try this project out also14:20
admin0to see where it fits14:20
admin0say i have a public platform ..  os OAM subnet a floating-ip network14:20
sgw1If you want to keep it simple, you can start with the AIO-Duplex14:20
admin0or it is just a network where the api and horizon etc lives14:20
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admin0AIO is good for development/developers . i am operator .. so i am OK to try the most elaborate one down and see what it is about and how it works14:21
admin0AIO is like installation and then i get a horizon UI ..and i can login and do stuff .. but that does not help in understanding how its deployed in production with vlans, routing etc14:21
sgw1it's better to have a fixed IP for the OAM controllers since if you take one down the other comes up onthe fixed IP address14:22
admin0ok14:22
sgw1admin0: your correct. I am part of the development team so I come from a different approach.14:22
sgw1Also, I have limited hardware and networking available compared to other folks on the team.  There are others (maybe not reading) that might have better suggestions for Operators.14:23
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admin0so as a developer, how do you handle split brain .. assuming there is a network issue between the 2 controllers and both think they are master ?14:24
admin0mysql galera needs 3 nodes min .14:25
sgw1Sorry, not my area of responsibility, not sure about that one. If you can't get your answers via IRC, you can send an email to the starlingx-discuss@lists.starlingx.io email list, you will need to subscribe to beable to send a message.14:26
admin0thanks ...looking into the archive now http://lists.starlingx.io/pipermail/starlingx-discuss/14:27
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sgw1Also, we have a community meeting zoom call tomorrow at 7:00am PT not sure where you are located, your welcome to join.14:32
sgw1https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Starlingx/Meetings#7am_Pacific_-_Technical_Steering_Committee_.26_Community_Call14:32
admin0netherlands14:35
admin04 cet14:35
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zhipeng[m]morning all16:09
zhipeng[m]slittle1: I have updated my patch according to your comment, test is ongoing16:09
zhipeng[m]Do you have any further comment?16:10
zhipeng[m]I can fix it now16:10
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born2bakesgw I guess I ve asked too many questions so nobody wants to read my ticket lol :D17:08
born2bakemail*17:08
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sgw1born2bake: I saw that, I will ping during the community meeting tomorrow morning17:12
sgw1https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Starlingx/Meetings#7am_Pacific_-_Technical_Steering_Committee_.26_Community_Call17:12
sgw1I am sorry it's taking a while for people to reply, we are trying to get the 4.0 release done and lots going on.17:13
born2bakesure, its totally fine. By any chance, do you know if software management upgrade will be implemented and finished in 4th release?17:14
born2bakeThus, I am wondering how do you upgrade your environment? If you started since 1.0 release, how do you upgrade it to 2/3/4?17:15
sgwUpgrade is supposed to be on the list, I am not sure of it's current status, currently no upgrade between earlier releases.  Have to do a full re-install.17:18
born2bakeokay, thank you17:19
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born2bakesgw also, wanted to ask who I can talk to about openstack in starlingx?17:36
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