Wednesday, 2017-10-25

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b1airoi just arrived an hour early for the meeting - damn daylight savings10:04
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b1airopriteau, i'd like to get Blazar deployed on the Nectar cloud at some point soon12:03
priteauWhat version of OpenStack are you running?12:03
b1airothere are a few use-cases we have with some of our local capacity that i think it would help with12:03
priteauI wouldn't recommend running anything older than Pike for Blazar12:04
b1airoit's a mix - and we're CellsV1, so that complicates things potentially12:04
priteauRight, I have never used it with cells12:04
b1airorecommending Pike because you need certain things from Placement ?12:05
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ildikovb1airo: I need to look up AeRO12:06
b1airoildikov, i'm still here if you wanted to follow on12:06
priteauNo, I recommend the Pike version of Blazar because we have a fair amount of bug fixes that were not backported to Ocata12:06
b1airooh right, Blazar bugfixes?12:06
priteauYep12:06
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b1airoyeah that's cool, we'll just start with the latest12:06
priteauBut, technically you can take Pike's Blazar and run it on an older OpenStack with a few adjustments (mostly requirements changes)12:07
priteauWe12:07
ildikovb1airo: do you or anyone has connections there and/or could help with the outreach?12:07
priteauWe're doing this with Ocata on Chameleon12:07
ildikovb1airo: I will ask Wilfred too, but so far I was snowed under various things unfortunately; business as usual :/12:07
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b1airopriteau, we're fairly mixed on the version front - Nova is the most behind (only just about to be Newton) as that takes the longest to upgrade because of all the cells and various stages that go into it, so the upgrades usually take a few weeks to comppletely finish12:10
b1airoildikov, i might, let me look in email...12:11
priteauYou would have to do some testing but it shouldn't be too complex to run Blazar against Newton. If you have a testing environment running Pike though, that would make it easier for you to get started.12:12
b1airoildikov, i don't know the CEO or Executive Officer directly, but there is a general enquiry form on the website12:14
b1airoi suggest getting Wilfred to make contact and see if they can promote it12:15
b1airohe should be getting it into the Nectar news feed too12:15
b1airoildikov, from what you've picked up so far, has the ORC group come up with any sort of demonstrator interoperability scenarios?12:16
ildikovb1airo: sounds good, I will ask Wilfred12:16
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ildikovb1airo: we were talking about federation in smaller scale that exists already, but I don't think we've had an overall scenario discussion so far12:18
ildikovb1airo: would be a good topic to raise in Sydney12:18
b1airoi guess i am looking for the dot-point list of problems that ORC thinks need to be solved somehow12:20
ildikovb1airo: I need to dig up the declaration draft document12:20
ildikovthere's a few bullet list items in that one12:21
b1airoit's ok, i have it12:21
b1airook, maybe i need to take another look12:21
ildikovI'm not aware of anything beyond that on high level12:21
b1airofor example, i'm talking about scenarios like: how do i burst out my private cloud to a commercial provider giving my users as consistent a UX as possible?12:23
ildikovyeah, I had similar things in mind when you asked as well, I think it would be important to have these covered more explicitly12:25
b1airothat's the sort of use-case that would presumably get attention from commercial players too rather than it just being a science/research nice-to-have12:29
ildikovb1airo: agreed!12:32
ildikovb1airo: there also seem to have interest from the public cloud folks in OpenStack to provide resources to universities, so I hope we can involve them at a certain point as the commercial side of OpenStack for instance12:33
ildikovb1airo: we are before the first steps on that front, but having the scenarios worked out on the ORC side is definitely a must to connect with the commercial players overall12:34
b1airodefinitely potential there12:36
ildikov+112:40
ildikovthanks for bringing this up!12:41
ildikovI mean the scenarios, etc12:41
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trandlesoneswig: Hello.  Do you know Matthew Vernon at Sanger?15:48
oneswigHi trandles - no I don't think so15:48
oneswigI know a few people there who might though15:49
trandlesI was just curious.  He's taken an interest in Charliecloud.15:49
trandlesHe noted something and mentioned "on a VM inside OpenStack"15:52
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oneswigInteresting - go Charliecloud!  Hope he likes it.16:08
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