Thursday, 2013-10-10

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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Remove unused EDP JSON validation schemes to prevent confusion  https://review.openstack.org/5072708:57
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openstackgerritDmitry Mescheryakov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Another change to parallelize Vanilla plugin provisioning  https://review.openstack.org/5014409:10
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Fix lost anti_affinity field from Cluster Template  https://review.openstack.org/5037009:11
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openstackgerritVadim Rovachev proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Added EDP testing  https://review.openstack.org/5009409:36
openstackgerritVadim Rovachev proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Added EDP testing  https://review.openstack.org/5009409:47
openstackgerritDmitry Mescheryakov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Another change to parallelize Vanilla plugin provisioning  https://review.openstack.org/5014409:50
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Fix lost anti_affinity field from Cluster Template  https://review.openstack.org/5037011:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Added data-locality feature description  https://review.openstack.org/5011311:47
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openstackgerritDmitry Mescheryakov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Another change to parallelize Vanilla plugin provisioning  https://review.openstack.org/5014412:45
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, what's the word? should i do an RDO build w/ current tarball bits?12:49
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tmckaycrobertsrh, is there a "transient" setting on clusters in the UI?14:44
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Removed temporary templates  https://review.openstack.org/5094214:45
akuznetsovmckay no but currently I am working on creation of transient cluster for job execution14:48
crobertsrhtmckay:  Nothing in the UI14:48
tmckayHey all, I have a question about transient clusters.  They can be created with is_transient set to true, and Active transient clusters without jobs are terminated by the periodic terminate_unneeded_clusters task.  But, isn't there a window of opportunity there, where I create a transient cluster but haven't submitted my job yet?  What if Savanna cleans up my cluster before I get to use it?14:48
crobertsrhtmckay:  I think I saw a change request (or was it a bug) regarding transient clusters.14:48
tmckayok.  akuznetsov, will this be in 0.3?  Wondering if I need to cover it in the EDP doc, hence the questions ^^ :)14:49
tmckayAnd maybe we should have a concept of an expiration date on a transient cluster.  I might run a job, then wait a few minutes, then run another, then another.  Maybe the cluster goes away if I haven't run anything for 10 minutes?  Just an idea.14:51
tmckayOtherwise it's just based on whether I happen to have a job at the time the periodic task fires off.14:51
tmckaylooks like it's 90 seconds.14:52
akuznetsovCurrently transient cluster can be created via rest api14:53
akuznetsovif such cluster doesn't have any active jobs it will be shouldown14:53
akuznetsovsavanna periodically check transient clusters14:54
openstackgerritAlexander Ignatov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Added REST API v1.1 section  https://review.openstack.org/5094614:56
tmckayakuznetsov, but how much time do I have after I create a transient cluster to submit a job?  Less than 90 seconds, I guess :)  So I set up all my binaries, data sources, job object, etc and get it all ready to do.  Then, submit the cluster and immediately submit the execution (and hope that the cluster is not terminated in that split second between)14:57
tmckayis that right?14:57
tmckayI suppose it's an edge case, but I am worried about the case where the cluster goes "active" at 89.5 seconds after the last periodic cleanup and savanna terminates it a half second later14:59
akuznetsovtmckay you can submit job to the starting cluster, in this case job will be automatically started after cluster activation15:04
tmckayakunzetsov, okay, thanks.  That makes sense.15:04
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aignatovSergeyLukjanov, I see devstack CR for savanna inclusion on the review. That's great!15:40
aignatovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/50601/15:40
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, yep, first step to impl gating ;)15:42
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openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/savanna: First cut at UI documentation  https://review.openstack.org/5067815:50
mattfwho's our cinder guru?15:56
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_tmckayaignatov, where do you think we should document the python-savannaclient?17:18
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tmckayAssuming we document it :)17:18
tmckayI wonder if it should be a page next to the REST api pages17:19
SergeyLukjanov_tmckay, I think it'll be better for now to document it in the main docs17:19
tmckaySergeyLukjanov, do you mean under savanna/doc or somewhere else?17:20
SergeyLukjanov_savanna/doc17:20
SergeyLukjanov_yep17:20
SergeyLukjanov_just create a page or group of pages for client17:20
tmckayOkay, I'll add a "coming soon!" stub in the User Guide section17:20
SergeyLukjanov_thx17:20
tmckayThat's where the REST stuff is, makes sense17:20
tmckaythen I can link to it ;-)17:21
mattfSergeyLukjanov, what's the word? should i do an RDO build w/ current tarball bits?17:22
SergeyLukjanov_it's not pushed yet17:22
SergeyLukjanov_I hope to do it tomorrow when all important patches will be landed17:22
mattfok, i'll hold off17:24
mattfSergeyLukjanov_, do you have a running list of design summit topics on the wiki?17:25
mattfhere are some topics i've been pulling together, and i'd like to integrate them -17:26
mattfwhat is out roadmap through incubation?17:26
mattfwhat are supported guests?17:26
mattfhow do we manage contributed plugins?17:26
mattfhow can we coordinate performance evaluation?17:26
mattfwhat are the integration points with heat?17:26
mattfhow do we handle the one-public-ip-per-cluster use case?17:26
mattfcan the savanna service scale?17:26
mattf.17:26
mattfs/out/our/17:26
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SergeyLukjanov_http://summit.openstack.org17:27
SergeyLukjanov_you can propose missing topics here17:27
SergeyLukjanov_or add comments to existing ones17:27
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mattfdanke17:28
SergeyLukjanov_mattf, don't know actually about code freeze tag tomorrow, still have some unmerged patches and high priority bugs targeted to 0.317:30
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SergeyLukjanov_so, at max I'll push it at Saturday17:31
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add a page for documentation of the Savanna Python client  https://review.openstack.org/5099217:31
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, ok, i'll watch for the announcement17:46
mattfSergeyLukjanov, i added 4 topics17:47
mattfguest images - http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/21417:47
mattfperformance coordination - http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/21517:47
SergeyLukjanovyeah, I see them17:47
SergeyLukjanovhttp://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/2017:47
mattfone-public-ip - http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/21317:47
mattfplugins - http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/21617:47
SergeyLukjanovok, I'll take a look on them17:48
mattfhttp://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/20 -> Forbidden17:48
SergeyLukjanovtoday at IRC meeting I want to collect as much as possible topics to discuss to merge them into 4 talks at design summit17:49
mattfok. i'm double booked for the irc meeting today. i'll likely be high latency (slow to respond)17:49
ruheis't one public up already feasible with the current assign.ent of pools to node group?17:49
SergeyLukjanov<mattf> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/20 -> Forbidden  \\ sorry, it's a review page :(17:50
ruhe*public ip17:50
mattfruhe, w/ nova-networking or neutron?17:50
ruheneutron17:50
ruhewho needs nova-network? it's not trendy :)17:51
mattfyou can do all sorts of things with neutron (maybe too many). so it's possible. if it is we should decide if it's a sane deployment or not.17:51
mattfnot trendy == works17:51
ruhethat's true17:52
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ruhemattf, will you update rpm packages for savanna 0.317:54
ruhethere is a new component: python client17:55
mattfruhe, yeah, just waiting on the go-ahead from SergeyLukjanov17:55
ruheok17:55
mattfpython-savannaclient is packaged, but not used by anything atm. i expect knitting it w/ openstack-savanna & python-django-savanna will be the largest hurdle for my next build.17:56
mattfSergeyLukjanov, btw, we lost the image-elements tarball when we moved them out of extras -- i think17:56
SergeyLukjanovthere was no tarball for extra too17:57
mattfthat might explain it17:57
* mattf grins17:57
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SergeyLukjanovjobs for building them are on review now17:57
SergeyLukjanovI hope it'll work to the 0.3 release17:57
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tmckaycrobertsrh, if I paste a couple comments on the UI doc page that add section labels can you submit a new patch set?  The labels let me link your page and/or section from mine.18:03
tmckayI just tried it with your stuff patched in18:03
crobertsrhsure18:03
tmckayk, coming up....18:03
SergeyLukjanovsavanna meeting will be in #openstack-meeting-alt18:04
SergeyLukjanovmm18:04
SergeyLukjanovnow :)18:04
tmckaycrobertsrh, okay.  If the label is right, emacs will show it as blue in the editor (at least mine does)18:07
crobertsrhAh, ok.  I have been using eclipse18:09
tmckayThen these work from another page...18:10
tmckay:ref:`dashboard.user.guide`18:11
tmckay:ref:`dashboard.user.guide#Elastic Data Processing (EDP)`18:11
openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/savanna: First cut at UI documentation  https://review.openstack.org/5067818:12
crobertsrhtmckay:  refs added18:12
SergeyLukjanovrc3 tag at this weekend and it'll be the code freeze release18:13
tmckaycool, thanks.  Easier than me patching your change18:13
tmckayaignatov_, do you have a bug list?18:14
aignatov_guys, team meeting in other channell ;)18:15
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aignatov_#openstack-meeting-alt18:15
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aignatov_tmckay, I see to bugs related to edp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/123522918:43
aignatov_https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/123743418:43
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tmckayaignatov_, thanks18:58
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: First cut at UI documentation  https://review.openstack.org/5067818:59
tmckayspaces19:01
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crobertsrh:)19:02
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aignatov_tmckay, one more edp bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/123642119:19
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tmckaythanks19:21
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openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add content to userdoc/edp.rst  https://review.openstack.org/5101719:37
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add a page for documentation of the Savanna Python client  https://review.openstack.org/5099219:39
tmckayahh, man, "blueprint"19:40
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openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add a page for documentation of the Savanna Python client  https://review.openstack.org/5099219:41
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add content to userdoc/edp.rst  https://review.openstack.org/5101719:42
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tmckayaignatov, on https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1236421 do you have a suggestion for limiting the valid characters in a name?19:56
tmckayor do we try not to restrict the chars but include escaping?19:56
tmckayIn this case it looks like the problem is when the name is passed to some shell function and it runs into problems there in the Os19:56
tmckaypersonally, I wouldn't be opposed to restricting names to letters, numbers, -, and _20:00
tmckayah, I see valid_name used for node_group_templates... maybe there is something here20:13
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Add a page for documentation of the Savanna Python client  https://review.openstack.org/5099220:28
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openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add valid_name validations for name fields in EDP objects  https://review.openstack.org/5104720:40
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add valid_name validations for name fields in EDP objects  https://review.openstack.org/5104720:42
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, looks like valid_name should be ok too20:54
tmckaythanks20:54
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openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add validations for name fields in all EDP objects  https://review.openstack.org/5104721:09
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Removed temporary templates  https://review.openstack.org/5094221:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Added EDP testing  https://review.openstack.org/5009421:21
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