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| openstackgerrit | Luz Cazares proposed openstack/refstack: Implement additional properties Defcore waiver https://review.openstack.org/343022 | 00:50 |
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| andrey-mp | o/ | 20:06 |
| catherineD | o/ | 20:06 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: let me get your question form the other chat | 20:07 |
| rockyg | o/ Might want to copy from the lilnk on, the discussion points | 20:07 |
| andrey-mp | for example - https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/distros/distribution/mirantis/mirantis-openstack | 20:07 |
| andrey-mp | it has several versions - 6.1, 7, 8, 9 | 20:07 |
| andrey-mp | what version is certified and tested? | 20:07 |
| catherineD | for https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/distros/distribution/mirantis/mirantis-openstack , currently is is certified with 2016.01 | 20:07 |
| catherineD | in 2015, it was certify with 2015.07 | 20:08 |
| andrey-mp | but - what is the version of Mirantis OpenStack? | 20:09 |
| catherineD | for both certification, the product id is the same .... it is still the same product | 20:09 |
| catherineD | whatever they define as their product | 20:10 |
| andrey-mp | 6.1 version is very different from 9.0 | 20:10 |
| catherineD | yup | 20:10 |
| andrey-mp | so it is very strange (for me) to define them as one unique product... | 20:11 |
| catherineD | did you see why product_id is unique? because the product is still Mirantis OpenStack | 20:11 |
| andrey-mp | how you can distinguish what is certified? | 20:12 |
| catherineD | let's ask hogepodge: to help with your question | 20:12 |
| catherineD | about the product | 20:13 |
| andrey-mp | if it would be called as 'series of product' - then this definition can have unique ID through all versions | 20:13 |
| andrey-mp | so this is about definition... | 20:13 |
| catherineD | whatever listed on the page https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/distros/distribution/mirantis/mirantis-openstack is what being cerfiied | 20:13 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: I would let Foundation to define that .... | 20:14 |
| andrey-mp | is it real sitiuation when first version is not certified and second is certified? | 20:14 |
| andrey-mp | what will be on the product page? | 20:14 |
| catherineD | what is first version adn second version? | 20:15 |
| andrey-mp | like Liberty and Mitaka, like Mirantis 6.1 and 7.0 | 20:15 |
| andrey-mp | and other similar examples | 20:15 |
| catherineD | Let's take an example of IBM product | 20:16 |
| catherineD | https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/hosted-private-clouds/blue-box/private-cloud-as-a-service | 20:16 |
| catherineD | right now you see that we certify with 2016.01 ... the product section indicate all openstack components are Mitaka | 20:17 |
| andrey-mp | like printers HP LaserJet 5, HP LaserJet 6 - these all printers from LaserJet series | 20:18 |
| catherineD | 3 months ago the same link will show that we certified with 2015.07 and the product page will show that the OpenStack Component are Kilo | 20:18 |
| andrey-mp | this is an installation. it very hard to have two different installations. but distro can have more than two versions | 20:19 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: again I will let Foundation to explain how they define product ... | 20:19 |
| catherineD | do you understand why the product id is unique? unless foundation want to follow product with version ... | 20:20 |
| andrey-mp | i understand that my definition of product is not the same :) | 20:22 |
| catherineD | yea | 20:22 |
| catherineD | for this type of subject ... it is best for f2f but we do nto have that opportunity ... | 20:24 |
| andrey-mp | so in this case it is hard to continue thinking about it :) because we thought that cloud should have another ID if version of cloud is changed. | 20:24 |
| rockyg | So, catherineD , the IBM product with the 2015.07 cert, does it have a different product-id than the 2016.01 cert product? | 20:24 |
| catherineD | let's discuss some more next week | 20:24 |
| rockyg | Show a table of how product ide maps to product versions and certs.... | 20:25 |
| catherineD | from refstack point of view it would have same product_id | 20:25 |
| catherineD | since the procut name is the same ... vendor can put meta data to expose vendor version id | 20:25 |
| andrey-mp | and what will he do for several versions? | 20:26 |
| catherineD | the table will show product_name, version (if define), cerfified program, guideline | 20:26 |
| rockyg | is there anywhere in our db where the prod-id, version of product and cert all map to a single record? | 20:27 |
| catherineD | cert is define in test ... test is link to product_d (my way) | 20:28 |
| catherineD | there is no version of product in the table ... but there is flex data column that the vendor can put anything in there | 20:29 |
| catherineD | the issue here is product name on the market place are the same from product versio nto version | 20:30 |
| catherineD | a good question to hogepodge: is .. Does foundation care about product version? right now product vesion section is edittted by the vendor | 20:32 |
| catherineD | anyway I need to go to the next meeting ... | 20:32 |
| catherineD | give it a thought and we can discuss more later ... please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ so we can at least get something going | 20:33 |
| catherineD | rockyg: andrey-mp: thank you! ttyl! | 20:34 |
| andrey-mp | bye! | 20:34 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: we keep track in the marketplace | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Luz Cazares proposed openstack/refstack: Implement additional properties Defcore waiver https://review.openstack.org/343022 | 21:19 |
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