Wednesday, 2024-01-10

rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo caracal-uc tags to latest upper-constraints or latest Puppetfile  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5117500:30
rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed deps/python-zstd c9s-caracal-rdo: Update to 1.5.5.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/deps/python-zstd/+/5117600:51
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo caracal-uc tags to latest upper-constraints or latest Puppetfile  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5117508:13
rdogerritMerged openstack/watcher-distgit rpm-master: Remove python-libaas as automatic requirement  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/watcher-distgit/+/5117308:16
rdogerritMerged deps/python-zstd c9s-caracal-rdo: Update to 1.5.5.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/deps/python-zstd/+/5117608:20
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed rdoinfo master: Remove novajoin  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5088209:06
rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Update vars.yaml for adoption with storage options  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117709:42
rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Update vars.yaml for adoption with storage options  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117709:44
rdogerritChandan Kumar proposed rdo-jobs master: Add os-must-gather under operator line required project  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117810:12
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Remove novajoin  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5088210:21
rdogerritMerged rdo-jobs master: Add os-must-gather under operator line required project  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117810:21
rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Remove and clean up after unused adoption job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117010:38
rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Remove and clean up after unused adoption job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117010:49
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/oslo-cache-distgit bobcat-rdo: Bump release to create new build in cloudsig  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/oslo-cache-distgit/+/5117911:54
rdogerritMerged openstack/oslo-cache-distgit bobcat-rdo: Bump release to create new build in cloudsig  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/oslo-cache-distgit/+/5117912:13
rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Update vars.yaml for adoption with storage options  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117712:27
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Promote fixed oslo-cache to bobcat-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5118012:52
rdogerritMerged rdo-jobs master: Remove and clean up after unused adoption job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5117013:15
amoralejit's meeting time14:01
amoralejit's not clear who chairs this week, so i will14:02
amoralej#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2024-01-1014:02
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jan 10 14:02:53 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amoralej. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2024_01_10'14:02
amoralej#topic roll call14:03
spotz[m]\o/14:03
amoralej#chair spotz[m] 14:03
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej spotz[m]14:03
amoralejkarolinku[m], jcapitao[m] are you around ?14:03
karolinku[m]yes14:03
karolinku[m]hey14:03
amoralej#chair karolinku[m] 14:03
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej karolinku[m] spotz[m]14:03
jcapitao[m]o/14:04
amoralej#chair jcapitao[m] 14:04
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej jcapitao[m] karolinku[m] spotz[m]14:04
amoralejlet's start with the first topic14:04
amoralej#topic CentOS Connect and FOSDEM planning14:04
amoralejall yours spotz[m] 14:05
spotz[m]So please get pictures and bios to Shaun ASAP if you haven't. We still need to get the Meetup and CLoud SiG update abstracts to him14:05
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote fixed oslo-cache to bobcat-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5118014:06
jcapitao[m]for the meetup it's already done14:06
jcapitao[m]not for CloudSIG update yet14:07
amoralejwe need to upload pictures and bio somewhere or send mail to Shaun ?14:07
spotz[m]We are still trying to finalize somethings for Thursday night but a chance of a team dinner then or my backup plan is Saturday for lunch14:07
amoralejsaturday we will be at fosdem, it may be not easy for people to join for lunch14:07
amoralejmaybe some place close to the university14:08
spotz[m]We will hopefully have the booth signup sheet in the next day, Shaun was going to make it into an issue.14:08
spotz[m]So there's Foodtrucks at FOSDEM but we could be in line longer then walking 15 minutes:)14:08
spotz[m]I'm trying really hard to make Thursday night work14:09
amoralejyeah :)14:09
amoralejthat would be awsome14:09
spotz[m]We can leave Christian or someone else in the booth for an hour or so if needed:)14:10
amoralejbooth is Fedora + CentOS ?14:10
amoralejshared booth, i guess?14:10
spotz[m]But yeah as soon as we get things to Shaun the better and get the signup list done14:11
spotz[m]Booth is CentOS, RDO and OKD. We will be next to the Fedora booth14:11
amoralejah, ok14:11
spotz[m]That set up worked out really well last year so we asked if they could put us together again and they did14:12
amoralejyep, i think it's a good idea14:12
spotz[m]It also allows for coverage if needed14:12
karolinku[m]do we have updated banner?14:13
amoralejyou mean the centos connect site page?14:15
spotz[m]We're going to have a taller CentOS one. I was thinking about geting something printed out for on the table. There's not much room14:15
amoralejah, from last year14:16
spotz[m]No a pullup with info, the ones I had last year were out of date 14:16
spotz[m]So I have Koozies which will come over in a suitcase then we'll look for an empty box o leave them in Saturday night so I don't have to bring the suitcase back and forth, We also have stickers14:17
amoralejnice14:19
spotz[m]I think that's it for FOSDEM for now, maybe discuss more in the Cloud SiG meeting14:19
amoralejlast year, did you receive specific questions or generic ones (what is RDO? style)14:19
spotz[m]We got a few what is OpenStack which is why I'm thinking about printing something up. I don't think we got a single I thought OpenStack is dead:)14:20
amoralejgood :)14:20
amoralejok, i think we can move to the next topic14:21
spotz[m]We did get I thought CentOS id dead:(14:21
amoralej:)14:21
amoraleji'm curious to hear thoughts in the CentOS connect14:21
amoralej#topic Projects added to the inactive projects list for Caracal14:22
spotz[m]It's just CentOS Linux is EOL, CentOS Stream and Project aren't14:22
amoralejsure, but most about general perception from traditional centos community, we will see14:23
amoralejsome weeks ago, some projects were added to the list of inactive projects14:23
spotz[m]There's also a good thread going on about Monasco on the discuss list14:24
amoralej#info Sahara, EC2 API and Senlin projects have been set as inactive by OpenStack TC14:24
amoralej#info https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/emerging-technology-and-inactive-projects.html14:24
amoralejspotz[m], i didn't read it, is there any discussion about it? generic or only for monasca ?14:24
amoraleji'm not concerned about monasca because we don't ship it in RDO :)14:25
spotz[m]More of a trust and what to do if someone new offers to help but there's no one to help them14:25
amoralejmy doubt was if we should simply retire those projects from RDO Caracal14:25
amoralejor what to do14:25
spotz[m]Well my question would be can they run on newer code. That might give us another release to retire if needed14:26
amoralejyes, the other option is to leave it there while it doesn't break our ci14:27
amoralejbut i'm not sure that's enough14:27
amoralejthe other point is that those projects will not create new releases in Caracal, so should we ship Bobcat releases in RDO Caracal if they are not blocking ci?14:28
amoralejwhat is in RDO CloudSIG is supposed to be "supported" but we can not say an inactive project is supported14:29
amoralejwe may add a note somewhere14:29
spotz[m]Well that's what I was getting with run on newer code:) We could send out a survey and see if anyone is even using them. If someone is I'd say let it stay an additional release then retired out14:29
spotz[m]But yeah we have to be clear that it is not supported by the OpenStack community or us beyond it will install14:30
amoralejok, so maybe sending a mail to the MLs about it, at least for awareness would be good14:30
spotz[m]Yeah for sure14:30
amoralejso, we could leave the packages if they are not blocking ci for one more release even if they are inactive14:30
amoralejif jobs fail, retire them14:31
spotz[m]It's a little late now probably but maybe someone is on RDO lists and not the main ones and they would have been interested in taking it over14:31
amoralejand in any case, retire them in D...14:31
spotz[m]Yeah, we can't be fixing them if they're breaking14:31
spotz[m]D is for Dalmatian!!!!14:31
karolinku[m]really? :D14:32
spotz[m]It’s time to vote for the OpenStack “D” Release!... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/jVgyOacAWHpJScQLofEBcXxG>)14:32
amoralejvotes are still opened, right?14:33
spotz[m]Yep until Friday:)14:33
amoralejey, you are on campaign! :)14:33
amoralejok14:34
amoralejso back to the topic14:34
spotz[m]Yep:) Besides do we want to be a Radish or a Mustard? No! And maybe we can get a spotted version of Spenser for the release:)14:34
amoralejthat'd be cooolll14:34
karolinku[m]Dalmatian is awesome14:36
karolinku[m]I see white Spencer with dots14:36
amoralej#info we will maintain the last release of the inactive projects in Caracal while they keep passing the periodic jobs on RDO CI14:36
amoralej#info if projects cause any issue in the periodic or gate jobs, we will retire them in caracal cycle, otherwise we will do it in the next release14:37
amoralej^ is that fine ?14:37
jcapitao[m]wfm14:39
spotz[m]Yeah I think so. I'd like to give folks an opportunity to find something else14:39
amoralejok, i can send a mail about it14:40
amoralej#action amoralej to send a mail to the RDO MLs to make users aware of the inactive projects situation14:40
amoralejbtw, i've seen a PTL has been appointed to ec2 api after that, that means it will be removed from inactive ?14:41
spotz[m]Yes14:41
amoralejok, one less then14:41
amoralejhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/90316314:42
spotz[m]If we found a PTL we kept it, the problem is if we have a single volunteer show up14:42
amoralejok, so i understand the list is the authoritative source of truth about that14:43
spotz[m]Or there's a page on the site trying to remember14:43
amoralejhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/emerging-technology-and-inactive-projects.html is what i checked14:44
spotz[m]That's the one14:44
amoralejthat's where my doubt came from, ec2 api is there but a ptl was nominated. Although there was some comments in the review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/90316314:45
amoralejso i'm not sure14:45
amoraleji'll check from time to time14:46
amoralejso, i think that was it from my side about this topic14:46
spotz[m]I think it is active but a warning  If it's not brought back to "active" by C-2 (Jan 11) it will not be in the Caracal release.14:47
spotz[m]So tomorrow14:47
amoralejok14:48
amoralejlet's move to open floor14:48
amoralej#topic open floor14:48
amoralejany volunteer to chair next week ?14:48
karolinku[m]I can take it14:49
amoralej#action karolinku[m] will chair next week14:49
amoralejsome other topic you want to discuss ?14:50
spotz[m]I'm good:)14:51
amoralejok, i'll close the mtg and give you some minutes back14:52
jcapitao[m]nothing else from my side14:52
amoralejthank you all for joining!14:52
amoralej#endmeeting14:52
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spotz[m]Thanks for leading and thanks all for attending14:52
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rdogerritJoan Francesc Gilabert proposed rdo-jobs master: Rename adoption job and move parent base job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/5118115:43
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Promote fixed oslo-cache to bobcat-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5118315:53
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote fixed oslo-cache to bobcat-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/5118317:06

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