Wednesday, 2023-04-19

apevec> * We are providing well integrated, easy to install packages of00:01
apevecOpenStack Grizzly for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4, and equivalent...00:01
spotzapevec: Wow!00:07
spotzWe almost released yesterday too!00:07
rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for bobcat-9s-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4832100:18
rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for antelope-9s-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4834100:20
tkajinamamoralej|off, do you agree with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/+/880791 now ?06:04
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rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed openstack/kolla-distgit xena-rdo: openstack-kolla-13.10.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/kolla-distgit/+/4834208:11
rdogerritMerged openstack/kolla-distgit xena-rdo: openstack-kolla-13.10.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/kolla-distgit/+/4834209:00
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for zed-9s-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4833309:14
rdogerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed rdoinfo master: Change URL for ovn-bgp-agent  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4833709:23
rdogerritYadnesh Kulkarni proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit yoga-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834309:40
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit wallaby-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core in EL9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit/+/4834009:49
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit rpm-master: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834409:52
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit zed-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834509:53
rdogerritYadnesh Kulkarni proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit xena-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834609:57
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit wallaby-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core in EL9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834709:58
rdogerritYadnesh Kulkarni proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit wallaby-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834810:08
rdogerritAnanya Banerjee proposed rdo-jobs master: Updating container login role to use "quay_login_secret_name" format of setting login secrets  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/4834910:27
rdogerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-distgit xena-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834610:36
rdogerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-distgit yoga-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834310:36
rdogerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-distgit rpm-master: Install rootwrap by the common package  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4699510:50
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rdogerritKarolina Kula proposed rdo-infra/releng master: Minor updates and readability improvements  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/releng/+/4835011:21
rdogerritKarolina Kula proposed rdo-infra/releng master: Minor updates and readability improvements  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/releng/+/4835011:27
rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/ci-config master: Added 'docker' executable to podman environment  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4832811:36
rdogerritKarolina Kula proposed rdo-website master: Tripleo cleanup in promotion pipeline documentation  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-website/+/4831611:55
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit rpm-master: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit/+/4833812:15
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Change URL for ovn-bgp-agent  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4833712:16
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit zed-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit/+/4833912:16
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rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit xena-rdo: DNM test ftbfs review  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4835112:39
amoralejkarolinku[m], jcapitao[m] merging a big dep updates in bobcat https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4832112:51
jcapitao[m]ok12:52
karolinku[m]ack12:52
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for bobcat-9s-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4832112:58
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed rdo-jobs master: Add rpmlint exception for ansible-collections-openstack  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/4835212:58
amoralejthank jcapitao[m] ! ^ i was preparing the patch :)12:58
jcapitao[m];D12:59
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit rpm-master: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834413:00
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed rdo-jobs master: Add rpmlint exception for ansible-collections-openstack  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/4835213:11
rdogerritMerged openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit zed-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834513:20
rdogerritMerged rdo-jobs master: Add rpmlint exception for ansible-collections-openstack  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/4835213:21
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Removing check stage for the package build"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit/+/4805913:25
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Removing check stage for the package build"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit/+/4805913:25
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/validations-libs-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Removing check stage for the package build"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/validations-libs-distgit/+/4806013:26
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/tripleoclient-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Ignore unit tests when building tripleoclient"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleoclient-distgit/+/4806113:26
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/metalsmith-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Disable build of ansible doc"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/metalsmith-distgit/+/4806213:27
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/metalsmith-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Disable build of ansible doc"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/metalsmith-distgit/+/4806213:27
rdogerritMerged openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit rpm-master: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834413:27
rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit wallaby-rdo: openstack-ceilometer: failed to build f7aab07b  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4835313:32
rdogerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-distgit wallaby-rdo: Add oslo-cache as BR  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4834813:32
rdogerritrdo-trunk rdo-trunk proposed openstack/ceilometer-distgit wallaby-rdo: openstack-ceilometer: failed to build f7aab07b  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ceilometer-distgit/+/4835413:33
spotzMeeting in 10 minutes!13:50
spotzAdd your agenda items! https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/RDO-Meeting13:51
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit wallaby-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core in EL9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit/+/4834014:00
rdogerritMerged openstack/metalsmith-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Disable build of ansible doc"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/metalsmith-distgit/+/4806214:00
rdogerritMerged openstack/validations-libs-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Removing check stage for the package build"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/validations-libs-distgit/+/4806014:00
jcapitao[m]#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2023-04-1914:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Apr 19 14:00:42 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jcapitao[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2023_04_19'14:00
jcapitao[m]it's meeting time !14:00
rdogerritMerged openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit wallaby-rdo: Explicitely require openstack-ansible-core in EL9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack-distgit/+/4834714:01
jcapitao[m]#topic Roll Call14:01
karolinku[m]o/14:02
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Removing check stage for the package build"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit/+/4805914:02
amoralejo/14:02
jcapitao[m]#chair karolinku amoralej 14:03
opendevmeetWarning: Nick not in channel: karolinku14:03
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej jcapitao[m] karolinku14:03
spotzo/14:04
jcapitao[m]#chair spotz 14:04
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej jcapitao[m] karolinku spotz14:04
jcapitao[m]let's start with first and unique topic of the agenda today14:07
jcapitao[m]#topic Antelope release14:07
jcapitao[m]#info Antelope was released on April 1814:07
jcapitao[m]    #link https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/JUWA4D6E3522AQQCPV46ZGXI5DFV3TDE/14:07
jcapitao[m]#link https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/JUWA4D6E3522AQQCPV46ZGXI5DFV3TDE/14:08
spotzWe were one day off with the notice from the first RDO release 10 years ago!14:08
jcapitao[m]happy birthday RDO !!14:09
amoralejoh, nice!14:09
amoralejhow many releases ?14:10
spotzI think we should be really proud of that! I'm tempted to talk to tiger about maybe doing a different image for the contributor SWAG14:10
spotzFirst was grizzly14:10
spotzgive me a sec to count should be 20 I suspect14:10
jcapitao[m]21 releases if we count from g to a14:11
amoralejour baby is growing... :)14:11
spotzYep 21 with Grizzly14:11
spotzSo let me talk to Tiger, besides not getting a food type storage item I haven't looked for the contributor SWAG yet14:12
spotzI have started looking at Ducks for summit though:)14:12
jcapitao[m]+1 for the custom image !14:13
spotzI know Tiger is busy getting artwork done for RH Summit but I'll get this on his list to discuss when he's done with those 14:14
amoralejnice14:15
jcapitao[m]ok14:15
amoralejit'd be cool to get a 10th aniversary special edition14:15
spotzI wish I would have known about the 20 releases too. Thanks to apevec we know about the first release date though:)14:17
amoralej:)14:17
amoraleji guess he was already around14:17
spotzhehe14:20
jcapitao[m]I think that's all for this topic14:20
spotzOk I did drop Tiger an email to think on it but that we'd wait for him to be free14:20
spotzYep14:20
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleoclient-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Ignore unit tests when building tripleoclient"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleoclient-distgit/+/4806114:20
jcapitao[m]I'll take care of the tempest unpinning after the mtg14:20
jcapitao[m]thanks14:21
jcapitao[m]#topic Next Chair14:21
jcapitao[m]who's willing to chair next week ?14:21
karolinku[m]I can take it14:22
spotzThanks karolinku[m]14:23
jcapitao[m]#action karolinku will chair next week14:23
jcapitao[m]thank you14:24
jcapitao[m]#topic open floor14:24
amoralejfyi, i sent a patch to support cloudsig repo in osa14:26
amoralejhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/88047314:26
amoraleji still need to fix it14:27
amoralejbut i hope to get it working14:27
spotzNice, I saw noonedeadpunk had -1, I'll peek as well once any concerns are resolved14:27
amoralejyep, i just was side tracked14:28
amoralejbut i'll retake it14:28
jcapitao[m]amoralej: so osa is supporting RDO with the Trunk repos currently ?14:32
amoralejyes14:32
amoralejosa supports both source and distro installation14:32
amoralejwhen working in distro, they use trunk in ci at least14:33
jcapitao[m]okk14:33
amoralejactually, current default when you use centos9 + distro is trunk zed14:33
apevecoog so we could add OSA to our release criteria!14:34
apevecs/oog/ooh/14:35
apevecI thought they dropped installing from distro pkgs completely 14:35
amoraleji'd like to be able to run osa ci jobs14:35
amoralejapevec, nop, kolla dropped it14:36
amoralejbut not osa14:36
apevecheh I mix the two14:36
amoralejalthough source installation support is more widely supported and tested14:36
spotzI think this is good for us if we can get it working14:37
amoralejyeah14:37
amoralejwe will :)14:37
jcapitao[m]:D14:38
apevec<amoralej> "i guess he was already around" <- FTR I indeed was, even pre-RDO when we were building in EPEL14:38
amoralejwow :)14:39
apevecit was Portland Summit where we formally announced RDO as a project 14:39
spotzWe missed doing something special for the 20th release but I'll try to get something for 10th birthday!14:40
noonedeadpunkapevec: well, we were thinking about it, but I standed ground that it's good to have distro option:)14:40
noonedeadpunkthough we defenitely don't have much deployments with distro at the moment, and not much interested parties to get this path evolved.14:41
noonedeadpunkOnly limited amount of services are currently supported. 14:41
noonedeadpunkbut at very least base services are covered and it's quite straightforward to enroll more services if needed14:44
amoralejmy position is that, if osa decides to support distro packages with RDO, i'd like to make sure it works as smooth as possible and in the opposite way, testing osa is a good way to validate distro packages works as expected14:47
amoraleji see the value of using distro packages vs source, but or course, i'm a distro maintainer :)14:47
spotzhehe14:48
noonedeadpunkI'd like ppl to be able to choose between opionated methods :D14:48
amoralejand i understand supporting two deployment models has bigger effort that maintaining one14:48
noonedeadpunkAnd it could be as simple as non-default is less popular as always14:49
amoralejyeah, sure14:49
noonedeadpunkIt actually doesn't cost as lot lately, was slightly more turbulent with py2/py3 stuff, but it's not the case anymore14:50
amoraleji agree, giving multiple options is always good14:50
noonedeadpunkOne thing I'd love to raise though more with TC hat on, and that is release naming. As since Antelope OpenStack tries to use date-released versions as main identifier (ie 2023.1 for Antelope, 2023.2 for Bobcat). Thus, all branches are named stable/2023.1 etc.14:52
spotzI know we did call it 2023.1 Antelope in the release at least once:)14:53
amoralejyep, for the official name i think we should stick to both14:54
noonedeadpunkwell, repos/packages are called antelope from what I got from your email?14:54
amoralejas in https://releases.openstack.org/14:54
amoralejwrt repo14:54
noonedeadpunksec, I will find document :)14:55
amoralejactually, we used name probably because of habit,14:55
amoralejbut also, note the deliverables directory is using antelope upstream14:55
amoralejhttps://github.com/openstack/releases/tree/master/deliverables14:55
amoralejso i understand both are used14:55
noonedeadpunkhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html14:56
amoralejso, your proposal is to use only date based release for repo names?14:57
amoralejand centos-release-openstack-<release> ?14:57
noonedeadpunkso release names are more marketing/transition thing that will go away in the future14:57
spotzI doubt they're going away but go on:)14:58
noonedeadpunkactually yes. I've raised topic for TC discussion for the next week regarding this topic.14:58
jcapitao[m]I'll close the mtg notes but we can follow the discussion14:59
jcapitao[m]#endmeeting14:59
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noonedeadpunkAt the moment at least RDO and UCA are aligned in naming, which is good :)14:59
amoralejwe'd need to check if there is any issue with using dots in the tooling, i mean in cbs and centos sync14:59
* noonedeadpunk likes consistency14:59
amoralej:D14:59
spotznames are good!!!!!14:59
amoralejgood to know that uca is also following names :)15:00
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed rdo-website master: Add meetings 04/12 and 04/19  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-website/+/4835615:01
noonedeadpunkwell, me personally like names more as well. but I can imagine some confusion when ppl don't see antelope branch or start talking about same things using different names which is subideal15:01
amoralejright, it's hard to be consistent with two identifiers, imo15:02
noonedeadpunkBut yeah, it's just an insight and I guess me or spotz will give an update from TC preference :)15:02
amoralejsure, i'm not against using date based branches and repo names15:03
amoralejalthough i'm afraid of some issue with tooling which may be out of our control15:03
noonedeadpunkwell, date-based releases are following pep at least.15:04
amoralejwe can work on it if needed15:05
amoralejthe funny part of this is that, iiuc, the main issue with name was choosing one, right?15:06
spotzI'm cool with if we want to rename stuff on the backend but the names bring the community together, helps the users, etc15:07
amoraleji fully agree with that15:08
spotzAnd the foundation deals with naming now15:08
amoralejyeah, so that was my point, we (someone) is still dealing with choosing names15:08
amoralejbut we have the mess of managing two different identifiers15:08
spotzCall it 2023.2 on the back end and at release it'll be 2023.2 Bobcat and when folks talk about what release they'll say they're on Bobcat:)15:09
amoralejthat's also my guess :)15:09
noonedeadpunkamoralej: yeah, that also involved legal stuff iirc15:10
noonedeadpunkspotz: yeah. but then others go to check what is bobcat and might find nothing in the docs (as we're supposed to fix them)15:11
noonedeadpunkas right now docs.openstack.org contain bobcat/antelope in many places which is considered as a bug15:12
spotznoonedeadpunk: So we need to design the releases page to have both and maybe the first page of a project's docs15:27
rdogerritMarios Andreou proposed rdo-jobs master: Remove master/main component and integration lines  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-jobs/+/4807515:28
rdogerritMarios Andreou proposed config master: Remove master integration and component lines from tripleo-ci templates  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/config/+/4807415:29
rdogerritMarios Andreou proposed config master: Remove master/main component and integration lines  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/config/+/4807315:30
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for wallaby-8s-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4833516:16
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for xena-8s-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4803116:20
rdogerritJoel Capitao proposed rdo-infra/ansible-role-dlrn master: Switch from RSA review.r.o key fingerprint to ECDSA  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ansible-role-dlrn/+/4807616:30
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marbindrakonHi folks, I'm looking to deploy an RDO Antelope environment in my lab with a small HA setup like I am used to with earlier RDO / RHOSP releases. Since TripleO is gone, is there a recommended deployment tool for HA RDO setups?20:30
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