Wednesday, 2022-07-20

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rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo wallaby tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4378100:35
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo xena tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4400700:35
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed nfvinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for nfvsig-2.15-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/nfvinfo/+/4403400:38
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed nfvinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for nfvsig-2.16-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/nfvinfo/+/4403500:38
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed nfvinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for nfvsig-2021-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/nfvinfo/+/4366700:38
rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for xena-8s-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4407300:38
rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for wallaby-8s-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4407400:41
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleoclient-distgit victoria-rdo: python-tripleoclient: failed to build fda32334  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleoclient-distgit/+/4407500:59
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rdogerritChandan Kumar created rdoinfo master: [DNM] Generate standalone tripleo-ansible rpm  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4407602:20
rdogerritChandan Kumar proposed rdoinfo master: [DNM] Generate standalone tripleo-ansible rpm  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/4407602:29
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rdogerritGregory Thiemonge created openstack/octavia-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409305:51
rdogerritGregory Thiemonge created openstack/octavia-distgit yoga-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409405:51
rdogerritGregory Thiemonge created openstack/octavia-distgit xena-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409505:51
rdogerritGregory Thiemonge created openstack/octavia-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409605:51
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rdogerritMerged openstack/octavia-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409306:20
rdogerritMerged openstack/octavia-distgit yoga-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409406:25
rdogerritMerged openstack/octavia-distgit xena-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409506:25
rdogerritJoel Capitao created rdo-website master: Remove Fedora references  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-website/+/4407706:25
rdogerritMerged openstack/octavia-distgit wallaby-rdo: Revert "Update Octavia spec for secure-RBAC"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/octavia-distgit/+/4409606:26
chkumar|roveramoralej: hello 06:43
amoralejhi chkumar|rover 06:44
chkumar|roveramoralej: I am trying to build tripleo-ansible rpm here https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/44076 from a particular commit06:44
chkumar|roverbut dlrn build is failing 06:44
chkumar|rover:No commits to build. If this is not expected, please make sure the package name(s) are correct, and that any failed commit you want to rebuild has been removed from the database.06:45
chkumar|roverin rdoinfo, I have used the commit of the patch having upstream-id pointed in the commit msg06:45
amoralejlemme check, i'm not sure06:45
chkumar|roverDo I need to use something else there?06:45
amoralejchkumar|rover, i think we use that in distgit repos, not in rdoinfo06:46
amoralejso you could send a dummy patch to tripleo-ansible distgit with upstream-id06:46
chkumar|roverok let me do that06:47
amoralejlet me check anyway06:47
amoralejchkumar|rover, you simply want to get the package built?06:49
chkumar|roveramoralej: yes, I just want the package built06:50
amoralejthen, send the patch to the distgit06:50
rdogerritChandan Kumar created openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit rpm-master: [DNM] dummy commit to build tripleo-ansible rpm  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible-distgit/+/4407806:51
chkumar|roveramoralej: done ^^ thanks :-)06:51
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rdogerritAmol Kahat proposed rdo-infra/ci-config master: Added instructions to use infra-setup roles.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4278810:16
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created nfvinfo master: Update ovn-2021 to ovn-2021-21.12.0-82  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/nfvinfo/+/4408111:25
amoralejykarel, ^ with fixes for ovn issue11:25
ykarelamoralej, okk Thanks11:25
amoralejyou also want to test those?11:25
ykarelamoralej, i think the CI jobs there should be enough11:26
amoralejbtw, some jobs failed in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-quickstart/+/85039811:26
amoralejykarel, i mean, to test with the cpu types in upstream infra11:26
ykarelamoralej, yes i checked failures, but those are unrelated and known issues11:26
ykareli am testing more jobs now11:26
amoralejack, good11:27
ykarelhttps://review.opendev.org/q/topic:ovs2.1711:27
ykarelif ^ goes well we can consider merging11:27
ykarelamoralej, cpu thing is good with the fixes11:27
amoralejack11:27
ykareli had tested earlier11:27
amoralejgood11:28
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rdogerritMerged nfvinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for nfvsig-2.16-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/nfvinfo/+/4403511:33
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apevecanyone knows more about sqlalchemy in CS9? Looks like it was recently introduced https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/python-sqlalchemy/-/merge_requests/1 and higher NVR than compatible with openstack?12:05
apevecwhat version we have in deps?12:05
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created openstack/barbican-distgit wallaby-rdo: Set max version of sqlalchemy in wallaby  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/barbican-distgit/+/4408212:06
amoralejapevec, see discusion in #oooq12:06
amoralejapevec, and see ^12:06
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/barbican-distgit wallaby-rdo: Set max version of sqlalchemy in wallaby  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/barbican-distgit/+/4408212:07
rdogerritChandan Kumar created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Remove sc10 ovn job from criteria  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408312:07
apevecyeah I'm looking now at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-quickstart/+/85044212:07
amoralejchkumar|rover, ^ it may be easier that way12:09
amoralejmmm although it will need promotion12:10
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chkumar|roveramoralej|lunch: thanks!12:30
rdogerritUser karolinku proposed rdo-infra/releng master: WIP: FTBFS dashboard - new script and CLI  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/releng/+/4372312:55
rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/ci-config master: Remove sc10 ovn job from criteria  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408313:13
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spotzJust a reminder meeting in about 30 minutes. If you have an items please add them to https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/RDO-Meeting13:28
rdogerritMerged openstack/barbican-distgit wallaby-rdo: Set max version of sqlalchemy in wallaby  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/openstack/barbican-distgit/+/4408213:33
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spotzamoralej: You wanted to talk about your stuff today yes?14:01
spotz#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2022-07-2014:01
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jul 20 14:01:50 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2022_07_20'14:01
spotz#topic ROll Call14:02
amoralejo/14:02
amoraleji have a couple of topics14:02
kkulao/14:04
spotz#chair amoralej kkula14:05
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: amoralej kkula spotz14:05
spotzI moved them down from next week's area just wanted to be sure:)14:05
spotz#topic Should we create centos9-master-head RDO Trunk repo ?14:05
amoralejah, ok14:06
amoralej#info RDO Trunk builders centos8-master and centos8-master-head are stopped now14:07
spotzHave we had any issues or are we good?14:07
amoralej#info for CS9 we onle created centos9-master, which follows versions in upper-constraints.txt but we didn't create centos9-master-head followint master peaks14:08
amoralejspotz, we are good, no news so far14:08
amoralejno news == good news14:08
amoralejso, my doubt is if we should create centos9-master-head chasing master14:08
amoralejmy feeling is that it wasn't providing much value14:09
amoralejas we use centos9-master for ci and everything14:09
amoralejthe goal of centos9-master-head is to find issues before they reach upper-constraints14:09
amoralejbut i have doubts it's useful tbh14:09
amoralejso i was thinking if we should create it or forget it14:10
amoralejapevec ykarel ^ you have any opinion?14:10
amoralejkkula spotz wdyt?14:11
spotzOk, in the meeting the TC had with folks from CentOS 2 weeks ago a theme sems to be to have a set timestamp so to speak of Stream to test again. Do you think that would be helpful?14:11
amoralejyou mean versioned centos repos?14:11
ykarelamoralej, atleast it was useful when spec changes were needed for pinned libraries/clients14:11
amoralejwell, it's useful if we monitor it :)14:12
spotzSort of just so as ykarel just typed you have an idea of versions in it14:12
amoralejand it also brings some false negatives14:12
ykarelto know the upcoming changes earlier then at the time of -uc update14:12
ykarelbut yes i don't think it was used other than it14:12
spotzI was thinking more froma known point of time what's in it if we then update and things start breaking14:13
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amoralejmaybe it will be easier to monitor with our incoming great ftbfs dashboard :)14:13
amoralejspotz, so, for RDO repos itself we have it, so i understand the problem is with centos repos14:14
spotzcorrect14:14
amoralejthat's not something that centos provide, the provide some timestamped repos, but they don't have any commitment14:15
amoralejon how much they will be stay around14:15
ykarelyes and agree about false positives, so if it's takes much resources and maintenance can avoid it, it's already not running so good time to decide over it14:15
ykarelas packaging issues can always be fixed at time of uc updates14:15
spotzRight but if we could pul a set of repos and keep using that set on our side is my thought if we can, we may not be able to14:15
amoralejykarel, yep, we decided not to create it until we remove the centos8 one, so it's time to consider it14:16
amoralejspotz, we may create a version + mirror mechanism14:16
spotz+114:16
amoralejwe tried not to do it in the past, actually :)14:16
amoralejit can be problematic, as it's kind of "forking centos"14:16
amoralejso, i.e. I'd be against recomending it for users or operators, for sure14:17
amoraleji mean recommending to use some frozen repos that we take responsibility on14:17
spotzAleksandra has some ideas and we wouldn't patch it or anything just keep it for a few days after starting on the next 'fork' and if it goes well delete and if not compare and reprot what's broken to CentOS and get help14:18
amoraleji.e. what if there is some issue which blocks promotion of new content and we con't push CVEs...14:18
spotzWe learned in Berlin at least one company is doing it actually not sue what they're doing for CVEs though14:19
ykarelamoralej, ack14:19
amoralejspotz, the best option for that would be that centos allows us to run CI jobs on their composes14:19
amoralejbefore they push14:19
amoralejso that we can provide feedback on content pending to be pushed14:19
amoralejdid that option appeared in the conversation?14:20
ykareliirc tripleo ci did some work in past to test composes?14:20
amoralejyes14:20
spotzCan always ask from the CLoud SIg:)14:20
ykareland those tests didn't catched the issues ?14:21
amoralejbut, if it's not providing feedback to centos team, it's not very useful, in some cases we can save some time14:21
amoralejykarel, i think we catched some, but it also has its own issues14:21
amoralejactually, i think there is still the idea to create that14:21
ykarelamoralej, ohkk 14:21
amoraleji mean, running regular ci jobs using official mirrors14:21
amoralejbut have a separated pipeline testing unpublished compose14:22
amoralejchkumar|rover, ^ is that idea still around?14:22
amoralejthe problem with that is, we should also mirror sig content, etc...14:23
amoralejor we may hit other issues14:23
amoralejspotz, who participated in that meeting?14:23
spotzapevac, bstinson, and Aleksandra. In hind site shold have invited jcapitao as SiG Chair and you but TC said they wanted CentOS vs RDO14:24
amoralejok14:25
amoralejthere was public minutes for the meeting?14:25
spotzRecording hang on:)14:26
amoralejack :)14:26
spotz#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeJG6Mujalo14:26
amoralejgood14:27
amoralejthx14:27
amoraleji'll watch it14:27
spotzSounds good, anything else on this topic or we'll move to your next14:28
amoralejso, i'm not sure about centos9-master-head, tbh ...14:28
spotzWhy don't we table it until after you watch it. I won't be here next week though I'll be in Raleigh14:29
spotzWe can always have a quick discussion in channel or on the mailing list if needed14:29
amoralejspotz, tbh i don't think one thing depends on the other14:29
spotzOk14:29
spotzDoes it hurt anything to create it?14:30
amoraleji mean having centos9-master-head will not help to have that kind of version stamp14:30
amoralejactually, not14:30
amoralejit's just to save effort and resources14:30
amoralejit may be a good oportunity for kkula to create her first dlrn builder :)14:30
spotzThen it has purpose! kkula will do it!:)14:30
amoralejas she's becoming our ftbfs master14:31
amoralejafter se became our deps master14:31
amoralej:)14:31
spotzLearning is a good reason to do it so decision made.14:31
amoralejok, lgtm14:31
amoralejkkula, ^ 14:31
amoraleji need your +1 :)14:31
kkulaready to do the job!14:32
spotz#info kkula will make the centos9-master-head branch. If anyone would like to learn how as well reach out to amoralej and kkula14:32
spotz:)14:32
spotz#yopic Docs: status of https://www.rdoproject.org/use/  14:32
spotzI have cleaned it up a few times but not recently14:33
amoralej#topic Docs: status of https://www.rdoproject.org/use/14:33
amoralejso, while reviewing a patch from jcapitao, i found some very old content14:34
amoralejthere14:34
PagliaccisCloudO/ greetings everyone!14:34
spotzHey PagliaccisCloud14:34
amoralejo/ PagliaccisCloud 14:34
spotzamoralej: Maybe make a trello with your findings and we'll work through the list?14:35
amoralejso, i was thinking how much of that is useful, if we maintain it14:35
amoralejas it was created by component owners, most of the times, it'd be probably good to discuss with them14:36
spotzI think we should mauntain like the getting started or point to the upstream docs, which would leave us with only maintaining packstack14:36
amoralejas i guess there are upstream docs which has similar, but updated, content14:36
amoralejspotz, yes, that's exactly my thought14:37
spotzLike the tripleo and tripleoquickstarts14:37
amoralejyep14:37
amoralej#agrees we should maintain like the getting started or point to the upstream docs which wuld leave us with only maintaining packstack14:37
amoralej#agreed we should maintain like the getting started or point to the upstream docs which wuld leave us with only maintaining packstack14:38
spotzSome of the other stuff we'll need to go through, I know even upstream we've gotten a little lazy about making sure the deployment stuff is uptodate for release14:38
spotzI'll carve out some time for a look14:39
amoralejyeah, we are lazy :)14:39
amoralejbtw14:39
amoralej#info we got a new document for packagers https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/package-building-overview/14:40
amoralejthanks kkula !14:40
spotzDo we have it linked in yet?:)14:40
amoralejyes, it's in packagers main page14:41
amoralejbtw, i just learn something new, --verbose-build, cool14:41
amoralejspotz, it's linked in https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/rdo-packaging/14:41
spotzPerfect!14:42
spotz#action spotz will look at the page and see where we can link upstream, remove for out of date, etc14:42
spotzSo I don't forget:)14:43
spotzAny thing else on this?14:43
amoraleji also need to https://www.rdoproject.org/what/trunk-repos/14:43
amoralejit still points to centos714:43
spotz#action amaralej to up date the trunk-repos page:)14:44
spotzMaybe one meeting we do as a video working meeting and just go through docs?14:45
amoralejor organize a docs day!14:45
amoralejthat'd be good, i thik14:46
amoralejwe can do video call session or something14:46
amoralejbut, we'd need to ensure the procuedure to run docs locally works fine in current fedora before14:47
spotzYeah, ok lets look at calendar dates and see what we can do. I'm traveling one week a month for the next few months but we'll find a date!14:47
spotzI'm excited even if it might just be us:)14:48
amoralejyes :)14:48
spotzOk anything else on this right now?14:48
amoralejit's good to focus on docs one day14:49
kkulaI'll also take part with pleasure14:49
spotz#action We will find a day and have a Docs Day!! All invited!14:51
spotzOk moving on as we have 9 minutes14:51
spotz#topic Yoga SWAG14:51
spotzI got an update and actually appreoved the markup during this meeting. Long story short the factory emailed the vendor for some clarification and that email got lost:( We're looking at August and we might be on the new fullfilment system about then but hoopefully won't delay things further14:52
spotz#topic Next Week's chair14:52
spotzVolunteers?:)14:53
amoraleji can take it14:53
spotzThanks amoralej and the section is already created:)14:53
spotz#topic Open Floor14:53
PagliaccisCloudDid I miss convo about PTG plans? Will RDO have presence?14:55
spotzI just started looking into that today, I haven't found anything yet for a social14:56
spotzWe're also just starting investigating whether to have atleast a small OPS Meetup precense14:56
spotzSo the answer is there will be something just don't know yet:) I did bring back the camera Rain used to do the interviews with but haven't tried to see if it even still works14:57
spotzI'll put the PTG on the schedule for in 2 weeks, hopefully I'll have had time to research more14:59
spotzAnd we're at time so thanks everyone for coming, PagliaccisCloud feel free to hit me up after the meeting to chat but honestly just started this morning.15:00
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PagliaccisCloudGood stuff, thanks everyone!15:01
PagliaccisCloudNot gonna bug you about it now but we can chat after you've got all of the info you need. Lmk if I can help track something down15:02
amoralejthanks spotz !15:02
spotzPagliaccisCloud: Yeah I envisioned the hotel in the middle of no where but it's downtown.. but it's Columbus:)15:02
spotzWelcome amoralej Thanks as always for your participation! You too kkula, ykarel an PagliaccisCloud15:03
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apevec<amoralej> "the goal of centos9-master-..." <- ^ didn't read all back, IMHO master-head would not be worth it, we'd rather invest in monitoring what's coming to CS9 before it hits mirrors, and yes, that was a topic TC video meeting few weeks ago, there are few ideas16:21
apevecone is to be able to rsync from composes.stream.centos.org and have that available in opendev AFS (not ready yet, but centos infra said they'd work on it)16:22
apevecother is to monitor cs9 gitlab MRs before they even get merged, that way we'd caught this new sqlalchemy showing up all of a sudden16:24
rdogerritDariusz created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Print correct components with "all" argument  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408416:51
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rdogerritAmy Marrich (spotz) created rdo-website master: Meetings updated for June and July  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-website/+/4408519:05
rdogerritDariusz proposed rdo-infra/ci-config master: Fetch info about jobs from ZUUL  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4330319:33
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rdogerritDariusz created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Removed outdated releases  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408619:56
rdogerritDariusz created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Skip jobs for promo of fcf18e1661b4add7eb1b3b2c761e1c63  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408720:37
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rdogerritDariusz proposed rdo-infra/ci-config master: Skip jobs for promo of fcf18e1661b4add7eb1b3b2c761e1c63  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ci-config/+/4408723:35
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