Wednesday, 2018-08-29

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rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo queens tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601400:22
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo rocky tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1562000:22
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo stein-uc tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1598500:22
rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for queens-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1583600:23
rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for rocky-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601500:24
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rdogerritMerged openstack/networking-mlnx-distgit rocky-rdo: python-networking-mlnx-12.0.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601201:09
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rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: WIP - Add subnodes and switch node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601302:58
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rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: WIP - Add subnodes and switch node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601303:29
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rdogerritYatin Karel created gating_scripts master: Temporary remove poi-scenario003 job from rdoinfo gating  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601605:32
rdogerritMerged gating_scripts master: Temporary remove poi-scenario003 job from rdoinfo gating  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601605:33
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rdogerritYatin Karel created config master: Temporary remove the tripleo job against rocky buildsys tags update  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601705:41
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rdogerritMerged config master: Temporary remove the tripleo job against rocky buildsys tags update  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601705:44
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lennybHello, I am trying to add new Compute to RDO setup based on Newton. It fails due to missing newton repositories. If I will update rdo-release to Queens, will it break my current setup?06:14
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: Include rootwrap.conf in package source until glance_store provides  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601006:17
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ramishraHi guys! can someone approve this simple queens-rdo backport https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/15871/ ?06:22
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: Include rootwrap.conf in package source until glance_store provides  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601007:08
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rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote some more builds to rocky-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1597607:18
rdogerritMarc Dequènes (Duck) created rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: openshift vars were misplaced  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601807:22
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo rocky tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1562007:53
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: Include rootwrap.conf in package source until glance_store provides  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601008:00
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo rocky tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1562008:16
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rdogerritJavier Peña created rdo-jobs master: Fix image publishing for Octavia build jobs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601908:34
rdogerritMarc Dequènes (Duck) created rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Enable EPEL on hosts in need  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602008:34
rdogerritMerged rdo-jobs master: Fix image publishing for Octavia build jobs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601908:50
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ykareljpena, i didn't see that ninja merge option, can u do that for virtualbmc08:59
jpenaykarel: yes, I'm waiting for the https://review.rdoproject.org/r/15620 CI jobs to pass09:00
ykareljpena, ack, about to pass09:00
jpenaactually, the "ninja merge option" is the ability to set Verified+209:00
ykarelokk09:01
ykarelalso next periodic run in 45 minutes, we need to clear FTBFS or postpone the run09:01
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rdogerritMerged openstack/virtualbmc-distgit rocky-rdo: Include `vbmcd` binary into package  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1600609:03
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jpenaykarel: ^^09:04
ykareljpena, cool09:04
jpenanow we'll get a ftbfs until the rdoinfo change is merged, but that's not a big deal09:04
ykareljpena, also https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/16010/09:05
jpenanumber80: do you have any objection to https://review.rdoproject.org/r/16010 ? It should fix the short-term, but we'll need to keep an eye on the package09:06
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ykareljpena, number80 yes need to fix that, i can do that later. but we are close to master promotion and release, so wanted to quick fix that09:08
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jpenaok, let's merge for now. We can always fix the fix09:08
ykareljpena, yes, OK09:08
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/virtualbmc-distgit rocky-rdo: python-virtualbmc: failed to build 427de49  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602109:09
* ykarel hoping to get consistent before next run09:09
jpenahehe, ^ was fast09:09
ykarelyes :)09:09
ykareljpena, also i temporary removed two jobs from rdoinfo gating: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/16017/ and https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/16016/09:09
ykarelwill revert those after release and need to approach the horizon team to get the permanent fix for that scenario003 issue09:10
jpenaykarel: ok, I hope you are keeping track of that stuff ;)09:10
ykareljpena, yes in my mind :)09:10
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rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: openshift vars were misplaced  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601809:11
rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Enable EPEL on hosts in need  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602009:11
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo rocky tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1562009:14
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* ykarel ack will have09:15
rdogerritMerged openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: Include rootwrap.conf in package source until glance_store provides  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601009:15
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/os-win-distgit rocky-rdo: python-os-win-4.0.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602209:17
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/castellan-distgit rocky-rdo: python-castellan-0.19.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602309:17
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/virtualbmc-distgit rocky-rdo: python-virtualbmc-1.4.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602409:18
rdogerritYatin Karel created config master: Enable promotion for rocky -testing to -release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602509:18
ykareljpena, number80 ^^09:19
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number80ack09:25
ykarelnumber80, how much time can it take to get repo: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/, Arrfab said: If nothing appears tomorrow (don't forget that sign+push process runs at 9:00am UTC), reopen the ticket and we'll reassign it09:25
number80ykarel: wait 2 or 3 hours before reopening the ticket09:26
number80sign process has started like 20 minutes ago, so let's give it some time for mirrors syncing09:26
number80I actually see rocky so it's here09:27
sshnaidmdo you know if package with higher version form repo with priority 10 will be installed over package with lower version in repo with priority 1?09:27
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ykarelnumber80, okk, will keep an eye there. number80 where u see rocky, i can't see that09:28
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ykareljpena, so distgit changes do not appear in queue: https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master/queue.html?09:32
ykareli want to check how/when glance will be rebuild after the spec update09:33
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ykarelokk it's build just now, and we are consistent, so good to run the promotion jobs09:35
rdogerritMerged config master: Enable promotion for rocky -testing to -release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602509:35
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jpenaykarel|away: glance is built already -> https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master/report.html09:38
ykarel|awayjpena, hmm appeared few minutes ago09:38
ykarel|awayafter i asked the question09:39
jpenayes, I noticed after replying :o)09:39
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sshnaidmfolks, please let me know what you think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1756936 , see my last comment. Is it possible to do with yum or should we do something in delorean build?09:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756936 in tripleo "rdo jobs ignore depends-on tripleo-common" [Critical,Triaged]09:51
sshnaidmwhy can't we build with version like 99999 or kind of09:51
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jpenasshnaidm: I'm trying to understand the issue. So let's say we have a patch to tripleo-common, based on top of a relativaly old commit (for example 2.0.0 tag). The current tag is 2.1.0, so we have tripleo-common-2.1.0-xxx in the RDO Trunk repo and 2.0.1-yyy is built by the CI job. Is that the case?09:58
sshnaidmjpena, yeah09:58
sshnaidmjpena, before that patch was merged we ignored all other repos than built09:58
sshnaidmjpena, but nor rdo trunk repo is counted and blocks built packages to be installed..09:59
sshnaidms/nor/now09:59
jpenaok, so rebasing is the only fix so far09:59
sshnaidmI thought lower priority will solve it, but seems like not09:59
sshnaidmjpena, well, it means we need to rebase every time commit is merged to repo10:00
sshnaidmjpena, and it won't help if something was merged during the job too..10:01
jpenausing priorities should work, as long as the yum-plugin-priorities package is installed and we don't have a later version of the package installed before10:01
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jpenasshnaidm: do you have an example job output I can check?10:03
sshnaidmjpena, hmm.. priorities are installed10:03
sshnaidmjpena, https://logs.rdoproject.org/22/597222/1/openstack-check/legacy-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-3ctlr_1comp-featureset001-master/3d5265f/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_built_repo.log.txt.gz10:04
sshnaidmjpena, this job should have installed both tripleo-common and tripleoclient10:04
sshnaidmjpena, yum-priorities are installed: https://logs.rdoproject.org/22/597222/1/openstack-check/legacy-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-3ctlr_1comp-featureset001-master/3d5265f/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/repo_setup.log.txt.gz10:05
jpenasshnaidm: ok, then this is a different issue. Priorities won't help  here, because the package is already installed10:05
sshnaidmjpena, of course10:06
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jpenasshnaidm: hmmm so this is a tricky situation (although that only happens when there are different tags). We could try to have a switch to make DLRN build packages with a high enough Epoch (eg. 999) that it always prevails, but that is ugly/hacky10:13
jpenaon the other hand, in those cases we're not testing some patches that are already in place for the project, so if we need a recent patch to tripleo-common but our commit is based on top of an older patch, it would fail and make us be very confused10:15
jpenaI think the cleanest situation would be to not use the zuul-provided source, but instead cherry-pick the patch being tested on top of the current HEAD for the branch. However, I'm not sure if that is possible with Zuul or it would require some custom stuff in the jobs10:16
ykarelnumber80, so repo is live: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-rocky/10:17
ykarelnumber80, can u take care of the centos-release-openstack rpm for rocky10:18
ykareland i guess leanderthal is taking care of the release mail10:19
leanderthalykarel, ack10:20
Arrfabykarel: hey10:20
ykarelArrfab, hi10:21
number80ykarel: yeah, I'll do it10:21
Arrfabykarel: usually not "lurking" here but had a quick look and while x86_64 pkgs were pushed, I don't see any ppc64le/aarch64 ones10:22
Arrfab(fyi in case you want to announce something)10:22
* number80 adds that point to the meeting10:22
Arrfabbtw, before announcing I guess you want centos-release-openstack-rocky to exists and also be signed/pushed, which isn't the case yet10:22
number80Arrfab: are altarch handled in a separate push10:23
Arrfabnumber80: if only we had an idea, I'd be happy to answer :(10:23
number80I'll do centos-release one right after my lunch pause10:23
number80No worries :)10:23
miscoh yeah, lunch, good idea10:23
Arrfabmisc++10:23
Arrfabnumber80: you know who to ask for those pkgs10:23
number80Arrfab: Johnny like usual?10:24
Arrfabnumber80: that's for the -release* pkgs .. I was talking about the pkgs not signed/pushed to mirror.c.o10:24
number80Ha, nope, I would have asked you or Brian10:24
Arrfabnumber80: we don't control that at all10:25
Arrfabso your only hope is the only guy doing it and having access to that10:25
number80I know who the messiah is :)10:25
number80I'll ping him later if it doesn't appear10:25
Arrfabgood .. as people think that CentOS infra team has access everywhere and can help with that, and that's not the case :(10:26
number80Well, more people getting access => less burden on you10:26
Arrfabnumber80: I already asked him but as he's busy with his $dayjob, he doesn't respond a lot online .. you can try though10:26
Arrfabnumber80: tell me more :(10:26
number80:)10:26
miscArrfab: "more"10:27
Arrfabmisc++10:27
Arrfabmisc: I had a smile on my face for one second .. thank you :)10:27
miscyw10:27
Arrfabnumber80: oh, it seems they are landing, so hope in sight !10:28
number80Seems, they are desynchronized, good piece of information10:30
Arrfabnumber80: that would sound logic, as they are in different config files stored in git, so probably processed in serial10:31
Arrfabas I see ppc64le pkgs landed but not yet aarch64 ones10:31
Arrfabnumber80: I'll ping once they are there, but as misc suggested, lunch seems a good idea10:32
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misclunch is always a good idea10:32
number80Yeah10:32
rdogerrithguemar created rdo-infra/centos-release-openstack rocky-rdo: Initial release for centos-release-openstack-rocky  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602610:32
number80ykarel: ^10:32
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ykarelnumber80, ack10:46
rdogerritYatin Karel created rdoinfo master: Promote rocky-testing packages to rocky-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602710:50
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tristanCzuul crashed as we were renaming projects, it's being restarted but we loose running build, recheck is needed if Zuul CI didn't vote on a review10:58
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ykareltristanC, ack and about openstack-periodic?11:04
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tristanCykarel: the got lost too, would you look a reenqueu now?11:04
ykareltristanC, yes as next run after around 4 hours11:05
ykareland we have all fixes in place11:05
ykarelsshnaidm, ^^11:05
tristanCykarel: ok, i'll enqueue now11:05
ykareltristanC, Okk Thanks11:06
tristanCykarel: you're welcome, jobs are running now11:07
ykareltristanC, cool11:08
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Arrfabykarel, number80 : fwiw, rocky pkgs landed for aarch64 too now , so it should be complete for x86_64,ppc64le and now aarch6411:12
number80\o/11:12
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ykarelArrfab, cool, Thanks11:13
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rdogerritYatin Karel created gating_scripts master: Revert "Do not enable centos rocky repo until it exists"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602811:20
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed rdoinfo master: Promote rocky-testing packages to rocky-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602711:22
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rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/centos-release-openstack rocky-rdo: Initial release for centos-release-openstack-rocky  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602611:25
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rdogerritMerged openstack/os-win-distgit rocky-rdo: python-os-win-4.0.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602211:35
rdogerritMerged openstack/virtualbmc-distgit rocky-rdo: python-virtualbmc-1.4.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602411:36
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ykarelnumber80, https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/16028/11:52
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number80ok12:01
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rdogerritMerged openstack/castellan-distgit rocky-rdo: python-castellan-0.19.0-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602312:04
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rdogerritMerged gating_scripts master: Revert "Do not enable centos rocky repo until it exists"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602812:07
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rdogerritYatin Karel created gating_scripts master: Revert "Set testing_repository=true until centos repo exists"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602912:34
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed gating_scripts master: Revert "Set testing_repository=true until centos repo exists"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602912:35
ykarel_number80, ^^12:36
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number80ack12:37
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/murano-agent-distgit rocky-rdo: openstack-murano-agent-3.5.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1564813:10
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/murano-agent-distgit rocky-rdo: openstack-murano-agent-3.5.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1564813:11
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote rocky-testing packages to rocky-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1602713:20
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dmsimardsshnaidm: is there a good way to test a new release of ARA in a patch ? like a reqs.txt file or something13:20
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sshnaidmdmsimard, yeah, requirement.txt in quickstart repo and then dummy patch in extras repo that depends on it13:22
sshnaidmdmsimard, because reqs changes don't trigger regular jobs.. not sure why it's so13:22
dmsimardsshnaidm: probably in irrelevant files of the job config13:22
sshnaidmdmsimard, yeah, but I think we need to run jobs if we change reqs..13:23
dmsimard(or the reverse, it's not in the files that are meant to trigger the jobs)13:23
dmsimardsshnaidm: ok, this new release shouldn't break anything but just in case ...13:23
sshnaidmdmsimard, we don't update it automatically, so anyway need to run jobs13:24
sshnaidmdmsimard, it's fixed version in reqs13:24
sshnaidmdmsimard, https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart/blob/master/requirements.txt#L213:26
dmsimardyup, sending a patch soon13:26
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mandrehey folks, has anyone an idea how I can solve this dep issue on python-docker-py? http://paste.openstack.org/show/729049/13:37
rdogerritUser CyrilRoelandteNovance created openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: Use copytruncate when rotating logs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1603013:38
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rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: WIP - Add subnodes and primary node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601313:39
rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: Add subnodes and primary node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601313:40
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trownwrt mandre query above ^ It looks like latest python2-docker package in deps repo (python2-docker-3.3.0-1.el7.noarch) is missing a provides for the obsoleted python-docker-py package13:43
jpenamandre: it looks like there's a missing provides -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/729050/13:43
trownjpena++ indeed :)13:43
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jpenaso... it was changed in Fedora some time ago: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-docker/c/9f9ae4ce4a32bda64ae814f7160d754698583f0f?branch=master13:44
trownthat commit message ;P13:45
jpenareally descriptive13:45
jpenawhere is the atomic package coming from?13:45
trowncentos-extras13:45
jpenaykarel, number80: I guess the only way to fix ^^ is to fork? Or could we convince the Fedora maintainer to keep the python-docker-py provides?13:46
trownmaybe it should be doing "Requires: python2-docker" ... not sure how to change packages there though13:46
mandretrown, jpena: thx guys13:46
number80jpena: it's Carl, we can try asking him about it13:47
jpenanumber80: never met him :D13:47
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/murano-agent-distgit rocky-rdo: openstack-murano-agent-3.5.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1564813:48
ykarelyes if it can be fixed/maintained in fedora it's better13:48
trownnumber80: jpena ... is it possible to update the spec for atomic package in centos-extras? seems that would be the more long term fix13:49
trownso fedora package doesnt need to have that provides forever13:49
* trown has no idea how centos-extras packages are maintained though13:49
ykarelnumber80, jpena release patch up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597529/13:51
ykarelwe can build once that merges13:51
rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: Add subnodes and primary node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601313:52
number80trown: I'd ping the atomic folks to do it13:54
number80aka lsm513:54
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trownnumber80: hmm maybe that wont actually work... seems like it is only openstack that has the newer python-docker package, so changing the requires on atomic would break them13:57
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trownjpena: I think we need to have the includes in python2-docker package until there is a python2-docker package in one of the base centos repos (then we could get atomic to switch requires)13:59
trownhopefully Carl is amenable :P14:00
number80If we explain it properly, it's doable14:04
dmsimardnumber80: btw I tagged a rc for ara0.16, it contains the fix we need for the py37 fix14:04
dmsimardonce it releases I'll try to fix the rawhide build14:05
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rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: Add subnodes and primary node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601314:15
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number80dmsimard: excellent then14:19
number8053151614:19
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apevectrown, number80, mandre - IIRC Provides were removed b/c docker changed API14:40
apevecProvides can only be if it's in-place replacement package14:40
apevec(yes, thank you docker for api "stability")14:40
apevecor was that some other package?14:43
mandreapevec: oh perfect... then what it the best way forward? put an upper limit on python-docker-py in atomic?14:43
apevecyeah, if they require specific version14:43
apevecmandre, how do you get into this?14:43
apevecah I see, yum install atomic14:44
apevecmandre, number80, trown - ok, found it https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1422198#c1114:45
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1422198 in Package Review "Review Request: python-docker - A Python library for the Docker Engine API" [Medium,Closed: rawhide] - Assigned to james.hogarth14:45
mandreapevec: yes, a simple yum install atomic - I don't believe they *require* python-docker-py, though... it's just that atomic is uninstallable with a more recent package14:45
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number80ack14:57
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* number80 is on a call14:57
trownapevec: so we need to ask maintainer of atomic package in centos-extras to put a version cap on the requires for python-docker-py?14:57
number80trown: it's lsm5 (Lokesh) AT fedoraproject DOT org14:58
number80I can't remember his redhat email14:58
jpenait's meeting time!15:01
jpena#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2018-08-2915:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 29 15:01:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2018_08_29'15:01
leanderthalo/15:01
number80o/15:01
jpena#topic roll call15:01
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jpena#chair leanderthal number8015:01
openstackCurrent chairs: jpena leanderthal number8015:01
jpenaremember, the agenda is available at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting in case you want to add any last-minute topic15:01
bahao/15:01
ykarelo/15:02
jpena#chair baha ykarel15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: baha jpena leanderthal number80 ykarel15:02
jpenalet's start with the agenda, we have many topics to cover15:02
jpena#topic Policy for abandoning packages proposal15:03
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jpenaykarel, number80: is ^ yours?15:03
ykarelnot mine15:03
mjtureko/15:03
jpena#chair mjturek15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: baha jpena leanderthal mjturek number80 ykarel15:03
number80Yep15:04
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number80We have cases where packages lose their maintainers and are not replaced15:04
number80So I suggest few things:15:04
number801. ping once a year, maintainers to check if they're still active or not15:04
number802. have a proper procedure to abandon and transition packages to someone else (and announce it if there are no candidates)15:05
number80So what do you think and what's missing in the headlines?15:05
number80Nobody? I guess I will then follow up in the mailing list :)15:07
number80#action number80 create a thread about abandoning packages policy on the rdo-dev list15:07
jpenaI think both options are valid... It's more about how to manage packages when the initial maintainers are no longer responsive15:08
jpenaso probably option 1 is a bit better to me15:08
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ykarelso a year is not much time15:09
jruzickayearly maintainer ping might be worth a try15:10
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jruzickaproper procedure to abandon and transition packages... other than creating respective rdoinfo review?15:11
leanderthalwouldn't it need to be twice yearly?15:11
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ykarelack let's try that15:11
number80OK15:11
number80leanderthal: we can change the cadence if needed15:12
leanderthalfair15:12
jruzickaor maybe we could go with a less intrusive way of examining builds/distgits and detecting inactivity15:12
number80jruzicka: at my non-surprise, people don't know what to do, so documenting it is useful :)15:12
jruzickanumber80, so basicaly that translates to documenting what to do... sounds useful :)15:12
number80jruzicka: if we can exploit gerrit data, we can target people pinged15:12
number80s/pinged/to be pinged/15:13
jruzickaif a package hasn't been updated for some time and there is no activity from the maintainer somewhere, we might detect it and make someone check15:13
jruzickanumber80, yes gerrit data, distgit/patches branch commits, builds...15:14
number80jruzicka: builds are now made by a bot so not relevant here :)15:14
jruzickaright :)15:14
jruzickaanyway a solution not requiring maintainer actions if (s)he's active is preferred here15:15
number80ack15:16
jruzickadocumenting what to do when mainter is gone sounds almost unevitable15:16
number80hell yeah :)15:16
jpenashall we move on to the next topic?15:16
apevecwe could copy fedora unresponsive maint process?15:17
leanderthalyessssss15:17
leanderthal+115:17
number80apevec: we could adapt it15:18
leanderthalexactly.15:19
number80I have enough material to shape something for vote next week then :)15:20
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jpena#topic Release preparations15:21
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number80We have repositories ready (all 3 platforms) and same for centos-release-openstack-rocky15:22
number80leanderthal: do you need any help with the release announce?15:22
leanderthalnumber80, of course15:23
leanderthali have this https://www.rdoproject.org/rdo/release-checklist/15:23
leanderthal#link https://www.rdoproject.org/rdo/release-checklist/15:23
number80Yup15:23
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leanderthaland i've started https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-rocky-release15:24
leanderthal#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-rocky-release15:24
number80\o/15:24
rdogerritRonelle Landy proposed rdo-jobs master: Add subnodes and primary node IPs to yaml file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1601315:24
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number80#action all help with the release announcement15:25
leanderthalwho is willing / able to contribute to the release announcement? this will be one of my main projects at ptg (the other one being the interviews)15:25
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apevecrelease announcement should go out before ptg?15:26
leanderthalalso, can we take a minute to squee for that sentence you made earlier, number80 ?15:26
leanderthal#info We have repositories ready (all 3 platforms) and same for centos-release-openstack-rocky15:27
leanderthalSQUEEEEEE15:27
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number80Yay \o/15:27
leanderthalapevec, no, it'll go out during or immediately after ptg15:27
apevecif CI works, we can release tomorrow?15:27
apevecoh15:27
rdogerritNicolas HICHER proposed rdo-jobs master: DNM: use hostvar to set /etc/nodepool/provider  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1591915:27
leanderthalapevec, i'd LOVE to do it before PTG15:27
* ykarel having some network issues15:27
leanderthalis it possible?15:27
rdogerritNicolas HICHER proposed rdo-jobs master: DNM: use hostvar to set /etc/nodepool/provider  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1591915:27
apevecleanderthal, upstream GA is tomorrow15:28
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apevecykarel, ^ how is CI doing, any blockers for release tomorrow?15:28
ykarelapevec, just some NODE_FAILURES started15:28
ykarelrest is good15:28
leanderthalit'd be super keen to do the announcement tomorrow, but highly unlikely due to gathering the information together15:28
ykarelapevec, upstream GA postponed?15:28
ykarelwasn't that today?15:29
apevecykarel, schedule still has tomorrow15:29
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apevechttps://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html#r-release15:29
rdogerritNicolas HICHER proposed rdo-jobs master: Add vexxhost job and nodeset  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1589515:29
apevecleanderthal, yeah, also it usually takes time to get SIG rpms signed by centos and published on mirror.c.o15:30
ykarelmmm may be i have misread earlier, was on 29th15:30
apevecmin rdo ga = upstream ga + time to rebuilds rpms in CBS + CI time + centos signing and sync to mirror.c.o15:30
apevecleanderthal, ^15:31
apevecfor one release, it was <12h15:31
ykarelapevec, also promotion to -testing and then -release15:31
apevecnumber80, ^ or was it even less?15:31
apevecykarel, yeah, that's "CI time"15:31
leanderthalapevec, that was two years ago - it was awesomeness. but the release announcement doesn't have the same speed15:31
leanderthaldue to gathering the info15:31
ykarelapevec, ohhk15:31
apevecyeah, we could start announcement draft earlier for next GA15:32
leanderthalagreed15:33
number80apevec: no less than 12h but if we had repo, we could have done within 2h15:33
number80so it's possible to break the record this time15:33
ykarelyeah we can try that15:33
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ykarelsetting new targets15:34
apevecah, we already have http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-rocky/ !15:34
apevecwith RC builds15:34
ykarelyes that was published today15:34
apeveccool!15:35
ykarelwe only have few candidates, that i will be proposing patch in few minutes15:35
ykarelso we are in sync15:35
number80:)15:35
apevecnice15:35
ykarelbut CI :(15:35
ykarelseeing NODE_FAILURES15:36
apevecnot nice :(15:37
apevecI hope it's not rdocloud weekly outage coming up15:37
ykarel me too hoping the same15:38
jpenanext topic?15:39
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number80yup15:39
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jpena#topic Relationship with rpm-packaging project15:40
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jpenathat's mine15:40
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jpenaso you're probably aware that there is an upstream rpm-packaging project, where we are collaborating primarily with people from SUSE, but also from some other companies15:40
jpenawe've been successful in reusing some tools created by that project, but we've never been able to reuse the spec file templates generated by the project15:41
apevecthe only one we reuse directly is openstack-macros15:41
apevecin rdo trunk15:41
jpenaso the RDO community involvement has always been like "half-done"15:41
apevecwe tried to reuse more for python3 poc15:42
jpenaduring the last cycle, we've only seen reviews/commits from ykarel or me, and we need to consider how we want to collaborate there (if at all)15:42
apevecbut looks like maintainers lean to add py3 support directly15:42
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apevecjpena, I think it makes sense to continue contributing to common tooling15:43
apevecwhere it makes sense like pymod2pkg15:43
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apevecbut for spec.j215:43
jpenaleaving the spec.j2 side would mean stopping the 3rd party CI jobs, I assume15:44
jpenaso we'd be effectively pulling off15:44
apevecyeah, we wouldn't have a use-case to support it15:45
number80yeah15:45
number80At some point, we can't do everything so focusing on tooling is probably the most sensible path15:46
jpenado you think we should discuss it on the mailing list, or can we make a decision now?15:46
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number80Expanding the discussion on the list wouldn't hurt but I'd limit it in time15:47
leanderthali recommend discussing ^ that.15:47
leanderthalyes. start the discussion with a deadline15:47
jpenaok, sounds like a plan15:47
jpena#action jpena will start discussion on rdo-dev list about rpm-packaging involvement, with a deadline to decide15:47
leanderthalsomething along the lines of, "this is what we'd like to do, we're making the decision at the rdo meeting on such and such date; please discuss here and / or attend the meeting to help decide"15:47
leanderthali recommend two weeks except that it's right over ptg, so.....15:48
jpenalet's see if we get somewhere in one week15:49
apevecsounds good15:49
jpenaand let's move to the next topic, we have lots to cover and little time :D15:49
leanderthalawesomeness15:49
jpena#topic Patch for introducing job for ppc64le container builds15:49
apeveclet's move on, 10min left and few more topics15:49
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jpenamjturek, baha ^^15:49
mjturekhey jpena pretty straight forward15:50
mjturekhave a patch available that should introduce the job15:50
mjturekwould like some eyes on it as it's pretty ugly right now15:50
bahahttps://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/15978/15:50
leanderthalmjturek, baha - also email devs list about this one15:51
apevecadding few reviewers15:51
apevecin gerrit15:51
leanderthalawesomeness, thx apevec15:52
jpena#action CI reviewers to check https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/15978/15:52
mjturekthanks all15:52
jpena#topic Hardware for building octavia-tempest-test-golang package15:52
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mjturekso baha had emailed about this package15:53
mjturekand the resolution seemed to be that it couldn't be built as there's no hardware for it in RDO15:53
mjturekwondering who we could talk to about introducing power hardware into the cloud15:53
mjturekand if that's something you all are open to15:53
leanderthalme and ..... leadership team15:53
leanderthalmjturek, let's have a meeting about this15:54
mjtureksounds good15:54
apevecmjturek, alternative was to build that pkg in CBS15:54
apevecit's actually annoying subpkg15:54
leanderthalis that possible? ^15:54
bahaThat was my thought. Centos cloud has access to power nodes, and it's only one package15:54
apevecjust for testing15:54
mjturekapevec that would be nice!15:55
apevecit's not changing that frequently?15:55
leanderthaldid you two ask on #centos-devel ?15:55
apevecleanderthal, CBS is multiarch15:55
bahaWe figured we'd come here first, since it's for the delorean repo15:55
leanderthalooOOOoo15:55
leanderthalright15:55
mjturekhttps://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008884.html thread here for those curious15:55
mjturekpackage name is actually python-octavia-tests-tempest-golang15:56
mjturekleanderthal: still open to introducing power hardware into rdo though, ping me after and we can discuss15:57
number80golang?15:57
jpenait's a single httpd server in golang, used for tests15:57
apevecit's basically static https://github.com/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin/commits/master/octavia_tempest_plugin/contrib/httpd/httpd.go15:57
apevecjpena, yeah, silly isn't it15:58
number80My left eyebrow raised so high that it touched my hair15:58
mjturek:)15:58
apevecnumber80, picture!15:58
leanderthalmjturek, definitely, but i'm off in less than a minute - i'll ping you tomorrow15:58
apevecjpena, I think we could just create a srpm from that15:58
mjturekno worries at all leanderthal15:58
apevecand have it in deps15:59
jpenamy gut reaction to this is: let's just rebuild it as a dep. We'd have to fix the octavia spec not to require a fixed version, but that should be enough15:59
apevecyep15:59
jpenahttps://github.com/rdo-packages/octavia-distgit/blob/rpm-master/openstack-octavia.spec#L14415:59
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apevecright15:59
mjturekcool!15:59
jpenawho takes ownership?15:59
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mjturekjpena: correct me if I'm wrong, but rebuilding it would take place in CBS? should we reach out to centos-devel for help here?16:01
leanderthaljpena, i need to scoot as it's the end of my day, but my topic is coming up; it needs to be discussed here and tomorrow i'll email the lists16:01
leanderthali'll read the notes tomorrow before i email16:01
jpenaleanderthal: ack16:01
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apevecmjturek, no, we can add it as any other dep in cloud sig tags16:01
apevecvia rdoinfo deps.yml16:02
jpenaapevec: so that would require a new spec in rdo-common, right?16:02
apevecyes, we need to right a new spec to build only that go file16:02
apevecbasically extract it from octavia plugin spec16:02
jpenaok, in the absence of other volunteers, I can have a look at that16:03
mjturekthank you jpena16:03
jpena#action jpena to extract octavia-tempest-test-golang to a separate dep16:04
apevecand octavia plugin even has a release now! https://github.com/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin/releases16:04
bahaThank you very much!16:04
jpenaapevec: that's not even in the tempest plugin, it's part of the octavia repo16:04
jpenawe're late!16:04
jpena#topic  propose to shift test days to M1 / M3 instead of M2 / GA16:04
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apevecjpena, it is in tempest plugin  https://github.com/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin/blob/master/octavia_tempest_plugin/contrib/httpd/httpd.go16:05
jpena#undo16:05
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic propose to shift test days to M1 / M3 instead of M2 / GA16:05
apevecsince we are over time, let's move this last topic to next week?16:05
apevecalso Rain left16:06
apevecah she said to still discuss it?16:06
apevecI'd say +2 :)16:06
jpenashe said she wanted this topic discussed in the meeting16:06
jpenalet's get it back quickly16:06
jpena#topic  propose to shift test days to M1 / M3 instead of M2 / GA16:06
*** openstack changes topic to "propose to shift test days to M1 / M3 instead of M2 / GA (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2018-08-29)"16:06
apevecmake sense16:07
jpenaTL;DR: there's a lot to do for GA, no time for tests. So proposal: test M1/M3 instead16:07
jpenaI'm +1 to that16:07
jpenaanyone else?16:07
apevecso for Stein that would be end of Oct and early March16:07
apevec+116:07
apevecNB Stein is longer cycle upstream https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html16:08
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apevecGA is early April16:08
jpenalooks ok to me16:08
jpenasince nobody is opposing...16:09
number80+116:09
apevecshipit16:09
jpena#agreed test on M1 / M3 instead and cancel rocky test days GA next week16:09
jpena#topic open floor16:09
*** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2018-08-29)"16:09
jpenawe already have a chair for next week, anything else before we run?16:09
number80Yes one more thing16:09
number80Kudos to ykarel for driving his first release by himself :)16:10
jpenaykarel++16:10
* number80 is done16:10
jpenalet's finish, then, it's late16:11
jpena#endmeeting16:11
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 29 16:11:05 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:11
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29/2018/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29.2018-08-29-15.01.html16:11
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29/2018/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29.2018-08-29-15.01.txt16:11
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29/2018/rdo_meeting___2018_08_29.2018-08-29-15.01.log.html16:11
number80Yeah, thanks for chairing jpena :)16:11
jpenathanks for attending!16:11
* number80 will take a walk, brb16:11
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rdogerritNicolas HICHER proposed rdo-jobs master: Add vexxhost job and nodeset  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1589518:14
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rdogerritMerged openstack/murano-agent-distgit rocky-rdo: openstack-murano-agent-3.5.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1564818:16
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rdogerritEmilien Macchi created rdoinfo master: paunch: unpin on stein & fix rocky tag  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1603118:41
EmilienMmwhahaha: ^18:41
EmilienMnumber80: will need review plz ^18:41
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EmilienMapevec: ^ need review if you're around18:52
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/oslo-messaging-distgit rpm-master: python-oslo-messaging: failed to build 90a5bd5  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1603219:07
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number80EmilienM: sure19:13
number80Sounds like a good plan to me19:14
number80trown++19:15
EmilienMnumber80: thx19:15
trownnumber80++ thanks for pointing me in the right direction ... I think we might need to mirror the repo he pointed me to though, but maybe it is already mirrored19:16
trownI will put up a patch for CI and see what happens19:16
number80trown: no worries, info are to be shared :)19:17
number80(unless corporate training forbids it to comply with anti-corruption laws)19:17
trownright19:18
trown:P19:18
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/networking-bigswitch-distgit rpm-master: python-networking-bigswitch: failed to build 341e705  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1603322:43
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