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rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo queens-uc tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185900:04
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HawK3ris this IRC for the packstack version of OpenStack00:19
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/networking-baremetal-distgit rpm-master: python-networking-baremetal: failed to build 3edd982  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186004:08
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rdogerritYatin Karel created rdoinfo master: Bump requests-oauthlib to 0.8.0  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186104:44
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/networking-baremetal-distgit rpm-master: Add tooz and oslo-messaging as dependency  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185805:39
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rdogerritYatin Karel created rdoinfo master: Bump python-oauthlib to latest fedora build: 2.0.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186205:49
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed rdoinfo master: Bump python-oauthlib to latest fedora build: 2.0.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186205:55
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed rdoinfo master: Bump python-oauthlib to latest fedora build: 2.0.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186206:01
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/packstack stable/ocata: Zuul: Remove project name  https://review.openstack.org/54205207:02
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rdogerritMerged openstack/networking-baremetal-distgit rpm-master: Add tooz and oslo-messaging as dependency  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185808:01
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rdogerritMerged openstack/horizon-distgit rpm-master: Add nova policy file  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1182508:03
chandankumarnumber80: jpena|off amoralej|off ykarel \o/08:04
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ykarelnumber80, is there something that i can do to finish queens deps: https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/queens-py2-deps08:08
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jpenagood morning08:19
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Add multinode CI job  https://review.openstack.org/51764408:22
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rdogerrithguemar created rdoinfo master: Queens: testing dependencies  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186308:50
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rdogerritJuan Antonio Osorio created openstack/barbican-distgit rpm-master: Create /run/barbican before trying to start barbican  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186408:58
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rdogerritJuan Antonio Osorio proposed openstack/barbican-distgit rpm-master: Create /run/barbican before trying to start barbican  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186409:06
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rdogerritJuan Antonio Osorio proposed openstack/barbican-distgit rpm-master: Use /run/barbican.pid instead of /run/barbican/pid  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186409:13
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rdogerritMerged config master: Fix launchpad comment link  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1177809:14
jpenanumber80: I've added some comments on the stabilized fedora repos etherpad09:15
jpenamy main question is about the order: whether we want to have a consistent RDO Trunk repo + POI/Packstack running before we start gating, or the other way around09:16
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sshnaidmamoralej, jpena, hi, are issue with consistent known? we can't move after f2f5195816e0c2f4729617b92b6eb3a72aec660d repo..09:36
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amoralejsshnaidm, yes, we still have a couple of ftbfs09:36
sshnaidmamoralej, ack, thanks09:37
amoralejbut i think we have merged fixes for both09:37
jpenaThe fixes for both ftbfs merged earlier today, we'll get updated packages soon-ish09:37
amoralejwe should be consistent soon09:37
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Update jsonpatch to 1.21  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1184209:38
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Queens: testing dependencies  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186309:48
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rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo queens-uc tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185909:57
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Add python-munch package to queens deps repo  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185709:57
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Queens: testing dependencies  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186309:59
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Queens: testing dependencies  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186309:59
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rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Queens: testing dependencies  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186310:55
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sshnaidmdoes https://trunk.rdoproject.org has any local mirrors?10:58
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sshnaidmand what is it mirror of? http://centos.interhost.net.il/7/cloud/x86_64/11:02
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Update requirements for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186511:08
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jfrancoa Hey, does anyone know why the  gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode-upgrades-pike is not being triggered lately in rdo cloud? I have a patch to test O->P upgrades with tripleo-upgrade role https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532497/4 but I can't get feedback for it from the CI11:17
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sshnaidmjfrancoa, will look11:32
jfrancoasshnaidm: thanks11:33
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Rebuild dependencies from fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186611:36
sshnaidmjfrancoa, hmm.. configs seems to be good, maybe jpena|away dmsimard or amoralej can look at zuul pipeline11:43
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sshnaidmjfrancoa, could it be that some of dependent patches can't merge?11:45
sshnaidmjfrancoa, it might be a reason..11:45
jfrancoasshnaidm: yes, that could be..we were getting that error yesterday quite often, I'm going to check all dependency patches11:50
jfrancoasshnaidm: thanks for the help11:50
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Rebuild dependencies from fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186612:00
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number80https://status.fedoraproject.org/12:03
number80^ major service disruption in fedora infra12:03
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rdogerritMerged openstack/mistral-lib-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1183012:11
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rdogerritSagi Shnaidman created config master: Run fs042 job only on changes in ipsec template  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186712:14
apevecnumber80, only distgit is down?12:15
rdogerritSagi Shnaidman proposed config master: Run fs042 job only on changes in ipsec template  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186712:16
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number80apevec: distgit impacts bodhi too12:21
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number80old bodhi did not rely on distgit12:21
amoralejnumber80, can you review https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/11865/ ?, that will allow us te remove some fedora conditionals12:23
number80yes12:23
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/tackerclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185112:26
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Update requirements for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186512:28
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* number80 fixing cliff package12:40
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number80ah cliff is already ok12:43
sshnaidmdmsimard, jpena|away take a look please: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/11867/  seems like it's last idea I can think about how to run this job..12:43
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/neutronclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1183412:57
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rdogerritMerged openstack/pankoclient-distgit pike-rdo: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1184812:59
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Rebuild requests-{mock|kerberos} dependencies from fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186613:00
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/zaqarclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185513:01
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/vitrageclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185413:02
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/troveclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185313:03
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rdogerrithguemar proposed openstack/tackerclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185113:08
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pandahrm rdo sf instance doesn't have a mumble service :(13:13
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number80amoralej: pushing an update of simplejson (alas, not a straightforward rebuild) but I'll -W the rdoinfo review until we finish branching libs and clients13:16
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rdogerritSagi Shnaidman created config master: Revert "Run all TLS job on related changes only in check"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186813:22
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sshnaidmjaosorior, hrybacki jpena sorry :( ^^13:22
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jaosorior:(13:23
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sshnaidmjaosorior, it will be available with zuulv3 in rdo sf13:25
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/octaviaclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1183513:25
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/keystoneclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1178513:35
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/shade-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174213:39
rdogerritRadomir Dopieralski created openstack/horizon-distgit rpm-master: Fix symlink to local_config.py and add symlink for local_config.d  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186913:40
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rdogerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/horizon-distgit rpm-master: Fix symlink to local_config.py and add symlink for local_config.d  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186913:41
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rdogerritMerged config master: Revert "Run all TLS job on related changes only in check"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186813:46
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rdogerritSagi Shnaidman proposed config master: Run fs042 job only on changes in ipsec template  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186713:48
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rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/taskflow-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174013:51
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rdogerritMerged openstack/zaqarclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185514:01
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sshnaidm|roverin case you missed: does https://trunk.rdoproject.org has any local mirrors?14:03
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rdogerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/horizon-distgit rpm-master: Fix symlink to local_config.py and add symlink for local_config.d  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186914:08
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cgoncalveslatest RDO master images date from January 26. has something changed (or is broken) since then?14:20
cgoncalveshttps://images.rdoproject.org/master/rdo_trunk/14:20
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jrniemijrin queens, keystone changed one of its python reqs from msgpack-python to msgpack. but there are other openstack projects still requiring msgpack-python. it looks like devstack handles this by just pip installing both msgpack-python and msgpack. but i cannot find how this is handled in any python msgpack rpm. are there separate python msgpack rpms that handle installing both the python modules?14:22
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jrniemijrfor reference, this is the requirements.txt change in keystone github14:23
jrniemijrhttps://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/aa482b3ac0657212d3ddf9b893896dab50908e8c#diff-b4ef698db8ca845e5845c4618278f29a14:23
weshaycan someone point me at the sf trello board?14:24
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hrybackisshnaidm|rover jaosorior oh no14:26
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/cursive-distgit rpm-master: Adjust python2 requirements for fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185214:34
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weshayhrm.. looks like we have an extra / in the puppet url in weirdo14:36
weshayhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/666603/14:36
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weshayas this resolves https://yum.puppetlabs.com/el/7/PC1/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml14:37
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/cursive-distgit rpm-master: Adjust python2 requirements for fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185214:44
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dmsimardweshay: we don't have a trello board right now, infrastructure is tracked here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?classification=Community&component=Infrastructure&list_id=8392708&product=RDO and projects are tracked here: https://tree.taiga.io/project/morucci-software-factory/14:50
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rdogerritMerged config master: Run fs042 job only on changes in ipsec template  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1186714:51
weshaydmsimard, thanks... where can I find the defaults/main.yml that has the puppet yum repo url in weirdo?14:51
weshayis it in weirdo or puppet-integration?14:51
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Update python-futures in deps repo for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187014:51
dmsimardweshay: weirdo doesn't install puppet, it just runs puppet-openstack-integration and that's what ends up installing it14:52
dmsimardweshay: it clones p-o-i and runs https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/run_tests.sh basically14:52
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ykarel_weshay, here it's tracked: https://trello.com/c/yI0yFRK7/569-poi-all-scenarios-jobs-failing-while-installing-puppet-from-puppetlabs-repository-as-it-contains-an-extra-slash-in-the-url14:53
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weshayykarel_, ya.. I just opened that14:53
weshaycan't find the config for the puppetlabs url14:54
ykarel_see patch14:54
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weshayykarel_, ah.. different card14:57
weshayykarel_, thanks14:57
weshayykarel_++14:58
weshaysshnaidm|rover, rfolco|ruck fyi.. ocata ^14:58
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weshaydmsimard, can we merge those?14:58
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weshaydmsimard, https://trello.com/c/yI0yFRK714:59
dmsimardweshay: +314:59
weshay:)15:00
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Update python-futures in deps repo for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187015:02
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hrybackisshnaidm|rover: okay so w/o the check job -- is there any quick way to test this stuff out quicker than once/day on the experimental queue?15:04
sshnaidm|roverhrybacki, since current zuul doesn't support files tracking, then only locally..15:05
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sshnaidm|roverhrybacki, I'll look if I can create some hack today to ovb-stack role15:06
hrybackisshnaidm|rover: okay, maybe you can help me work out what needs to be done to the ovb-manage-stack role? I can shift to that15:06
hrybackisshnaidm|rover: ack, or that. I don't need anything pretty -- just functional :)15:06
pandatristanC: what server are you using for your mumble standups ?15:07
sshnaidm|roverhrybacki, yeah, will talk to you today later if I make some progress with that15:07
hrybackithanks sshnaidm|rover++15:07
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rdogerritMerged openstack/vitrageclient-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185415:08
apevecweshay, we discussed adding index page to the oooq jobs in review.rdo, explaining what and where are important logs, but even upstream jobs do not have that "README" index page? e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/31/518331/27/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode/63e3883/15:11
apevecweshay, was that lost in v3 transition?15:12
weshayya.. that's where I was going15:12
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apevecah, here it is http://logs.openstack.org/31/518331/27/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode/63e3883/logs/README-logs.html15:12
weshayit's working upstream atm, so I don't think v3 blew it up.. however it did change I think w/ v315:12
weshayso maybe we just have incompat versions atm15:13
apevecit's just not index.html in top level15:13
weshayno it doesn't just work if you drop that in15:13
weshayapevec, EmilienM helped get that through and blew through it pretty quickly15:14
weshaymaybe I can find the change15:14
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Update python-futures in queens deps repository  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187115:14
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Update python-netaddr in queens deps repository  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187115:16
apevecweshay, hmm, not even devstack jobs have nice frontpage http://logs.openstack.org/05/541005/4/check/tempest-full/a6e27f8/15:17
weshayhuh.. and that's upstream15:17
apevecdid I imagine there was nice README frontpage?15:17
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apevecyeah, nova check job15:17
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Update python-netaddr in queens deps repository  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187115:18
weshayours is under logs http://logs.openstack.org/34/541834/4/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario003-multinode-oooq-container/ee80c40/logs/15:18
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dmsimardthere's something done by the apache vhost iirc15:19
apevecwhat do we need to get this README-logs.html in logs.rdo ?15:20
dmsimardweshay, apevec: https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/blob/master/templates/logs.vhost.erb#L70-L7415:20
rdogerritYatin Karel proposed openstack/taskflow-distgit rpm-master: Requirement sync for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174015:20
apevechmm, puppet-openstackci - we don't use that in rdo-infra, do we? jpena, dmsimard ?15:22
dmsimardapevec: we don't but what we're running in an inspiration of that :)15:22
jpenaapevec: I submitted a patch to that project to bring afs mirror support, and then used that to build the afs-mirror15:22
dmsimardwe don't have something like that for "READMEs" but we can add it15:22
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apevecweshay, ok, please file BZ to request that ^ in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=Infrastructure&product=RDO15:23
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/cursive-distgit rpm-master: Adjust python2 requirements for fedora  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1185215:24
apevecthat's the SF infra backlog15:24
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dmsimardjpena: added a comment on https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/11623/15:27
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rdogerrittrown created config master: Allow Ocata->Pike upgrades job to run on branchless projects  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187215:33
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weshayk15:35
rdogerrittrown proposed config master: Allow Ocata->Pike upgrades job to run on branchless projects  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187215:35
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rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add blogs.rdoproject.org to the playbooks  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1175115:38
rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/ansible-role-rdo-base master: Add task to allow creating crontab entries  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174615:39
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rdogerritMerged config master: Increase boot timeout for nodepool providers to 4 minutes  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1172315:45
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rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed config master: Add note about local changes required by new AFS mirror  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1169015:48
rdogerritJavier Peña proposed config master: Add periodic job to build and upload Octavia amphora image  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1180515:48
apevecjpena, amoralej - re. centos-queens builder - I forgot, the current one will switch to stable/queens if available?15:48
amoralejapevec, no15:48
amoralejit will keep tracking master15:49
jpenaapevec: no, we need to bootstrap a new one. See https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174515:49
rdogerrittrown proposed config master: Allow Ocata->Pike upgrades job to run on branchless projects  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187215:49
apevecright now stable/queens only have u-c pinned projects15:49
apevecso we are still good15:49
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amoralejjpena already sent a review for puppet-dlrn, i have to review it15:49
rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add trunk-fedora.rdoproject.org to configuration  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1162315:49
dmsimardmrunge: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9479/ slipped between the cracks, we'd need to rebase it but it's still okay right ?15:49
rdogerritMerged config master: Add note about local changes required by new AFS mirror  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1169015:49
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apevecor not, RCs already started for all?15:50
apevecthen we need Q builder asap15:51
amoralejyeah, we do15:51
amoralejnot all, but many projects are creating stable branches already15:51
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add configuration for AFS mirror  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1168815:54
rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed config master: zuul: re-enable smtp publisher on post/periodic pipelines  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1105615:56
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add monitoring for Nodepool image age  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1162715:59
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add monitoring of nodepool log in review.rdoproject.org  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1066516:02
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jruzickajschlueter, jjoyce, mhu: Javier deems this review (you already participaded in) just... please take a look if you can, I'd like to merge this week if at all possible.16:31
jruzickahttps://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10200/16:31
jruzickahttps://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10201/16:31
number80jpena: no objections for me to give +W to the following reviews:16:31
number80https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10372/16:31
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number80https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10045/16:32
number80https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/11096/16:32
number80https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/11146/16:32
number80https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/8836/16:32
rdogerritMerged config master: zuul: re-enable smtp publisher on post/periodic pipelines  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1105616:32
number80^ apevec amoralej16:33
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number80Otherwise I may just merge things and wait for people yelling that we broke them :D16:34
jpenawow, I didn't remember I had added the option to build multiple packages with Depends-On: on -distgits16:34
jpenaapevec was just asking for that a couple days ago16:34
number80jruzicka: good job16:34
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jjoycejruzicka: Both look good to me16:35
jruzickanumber80, thanks, these took way more time to get rid off than I'd like :) naming is hard, man.16:36
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number80jpena: yeah, for some reason, you're not getting much reviewers on DLRN, so I'll try to be more pushy about it16:37
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number80especially since they looked really good to me16:37
jruzickaand explaining things so that other people would understand too :D16:37
sfbenderMerged rdopkg master: Add -R/--release-bump-index argument  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/1020016:37
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* number80 things that being able to explain clearly concepts is one quality of good engineers16:38
number80s/things/thinks/16:38
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dmsimardnumber80: I give up immediately when people ask me what I do for a living16:39
number80jpena: apevec will be happy since that'll be the first one I'm merging16:39
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number80dmsimard: just tell them that you're doing magic with aras ;-)16:40
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dmsimardnumber80: some people call me "informaticien" or "technicien en informatique" (french) sometimes which I find boderline insulting :p16:40
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jruzickanumber80, indubitably, that makes interfaces and documentation such a neverending challenge :)16:40
number80dmsimard: it's still better than unemployed which is what of my neighbours thinks I am ;-)16:41
number80(remoting ain't a popular thing in France)16:41
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jruzickadmsimard, I use very colorful metaphors to wizards and blacksmith to explain what I do to people who can't possibly understand what I do :)16:42
jruzicka"building machines using words" is also surprisingly well received.16:43
jschlueterjruzicka: ack will do16:43
sfbenderMerged DLRN master: Allow building multiple packages using dependent patches  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/883616:43
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jruzickaat the very basic of our job is a language processing, in the end we solve all problems using words... formal machine words and the human ones too.16:44
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number80"Traduttore, traditore" => "Translating is betraying" in Italian"16:45
dmsimardjruzicka: explaining what I do is seriously so complicated for me.. like recently I explained what bitcoin was to someone who had little to no computer science knowledge and wasn't very knowledgeable in economy either. That was hard.16:45
jpenadmsimard: I still have a hard time trying to understand what bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies) are16:46
number80That's how scammers succeeds by relying on ignorance, credulity16:46
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number80(and it extends up to educated people as we're all ignorants of many topics)16:47
dmsimardjpena: It didn't make much sense to me either until I found this great video I watched... let me find it16:47
jschlueterjruzicka: no objections to either one ... reasonable approach16:47
apevecjpena, it's distributed db16:47
apevecwith lots of ASICs in China processing it16:48
apevecwould you put your money in that?16:48
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dmsimardjpena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng416:48
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jruzickadmsimard, it's a different thing that you do with us at work... here you want to have communicate as much detail and depth as possible... but for the common folk, the goal is to find the simplest possible approximation that is useful to the person :)16:49
rdogerritJavier Peña created config master: Add Fedora non-voting jobs for rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187316:50
jruzickaSummarising decades of deep knowledge using few words is definitely hard...16:50
sfbenderMerged DLRN master: Set fallback_to_master in run_tests.sh  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/1004516:50
chandankumarfor me It is very hard to explain to my family where I work and what i do sitting many hours on computer seeing screen.16:50
dmsimardjruzicka: yeah I tend to go like... "You know Facebook ? It needs to be hosted somewhere, it requires software, cloud, servers, internet, etc."16:50
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jpenadmsimard: kind of. I tend to use Netflix or Youtube as easy to understand analogies16:51
jruzickachandankumar, explain the screen is a magic door into a whole different world where you build machines using the power of your mind :D :D :D16:51
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chandankumarnice one!16:52
dmsimardjpena: anyway that video really helped me understand how it works and why it has value16:53
jpenachandankumar: sometimes my son asks me "what did you do today at work", and I really struggle :)16:53
chandankumarjpena: jruzicka: the insteresting thing that My father says to others that my son works at company who manfactures Red hats that'why company name is Red Hat :-) Same here.16:54
jruzicka:D16:55
number80jpena: same answer I gave to David => magic16:55
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number80the world was a better place when everything was magic, no headaches to explain things16:56
number80why apple doesn't fall bottom-up => magic16:56
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jruzickawell it is magic by definition. A technology so advanced it's indistinguishable from magic by those who don't know it ^^16:57
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jruzickanumber80, and then "god" became the placeholder for all that which isn't understood... dark times. no headaches cause no head when you think too much :-p16:58
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number80To be inclusive, I won't make jokes about that :)16:59
jruzickaooooh, right. magic is neutral ;)17:00
dmsimardwell, when you think about it17:00
dmsimardwe're really just telling the computers to do what we want them to do17:00
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dmsimardwith low level interfaces (programming) and at scale (i.e, configuration management)17:00
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleo-common-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.5  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187417:00
jruzickadmsimard, yes, the same as with physical machines or slaves.17:00
number80jruzicka: next month, just ask me how I treat door-to-door evangelists of any cult, I have fun stories about that ;-)17:00
dmsimardIt's not really different than magic :D17:01
number80(real stories)17:01
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleo-heat-templates-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.2.10  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187517:01
number80dmsimard: computer science is all about cults17:01
jruzickadmsimard, but I agreed with that... I went even further by saying it literally *IS* magic. What we do is magic by all means :)17:01
number80vi vs emacs (despite vi is dead long ago -read to the end- replaced by vim)17:02
number80for instance17:02
number80I managed to get applaused and booed loudly at the same in a conference I gave about IDE vs Editors17:03
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number80That conference blacklisted me as a speaker for that ^^17:03
jruzickanumber80, it happens I do have some fun storieas about that to :D yup, let's exchange.17:03
number80\o/17:03
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jruzickanumber80, high5 o/17:03
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dmsimardI use pycharm, vim and vscode, I'm not faithful to just one editor :)17:04
dmsimardmy relationship with pycharm is kinda weird, I don't really use the "IDE" features from it17:04
number80polygamist!17:04
number80I only use Emacs, sometimes I use one of its 3 embedded vi modes when I want to cheat17:05
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jruzickawhoa, whoa, stop about the editors or I take my holy robe of the church of vim and then stuff is going to get :q! real fast.17:05
dmsimardMy first shell editor was nano because I think it was the default editor back in the day on Ubuntu17:06
dmsimardso I kinda just learned it17:06
chandankumarvim is easier. for nasty html css stuff i go for vscode17:06
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number80still better than the one by default in Debian: Vim configured as Vi were in the 70's (like no spatial keys support)17:06
apevecoh noes, this channel went off topic :)17:07
dmsimardyeah who started forking17:07
number80o/17:07
dmsimardyeah number80 :P17:07
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number80That's ok from time to time, it's community channel :)17:07
number80Anyway, I'm on my way to grab dinner,see you later!17:08
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jruzickaone can always count on number80 to take the eternal flame and run with it17:08
jruzicka:-p17:08
jruzickanumber80, cya, vim now and forever!17:09
number80you can't be totally sane after 10+ years in Fedora ;-)17:09
chandankumarnumber80: jruzicka dmsimard apevec jpena amoralej https://conjure-up.io/17:09
jruzickachandankumar, oh yeah tere was even one distro of linux that redefined all the naming to spell-like...17:10
jruzickait was... truly magical :)17:10
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rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Update python-futures in deps repo for queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187017:15
rdogerritGabriele Cerami created config master: Add master to latest master update job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187617:17
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rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Add "git gc" crontab entry for nodepool builder  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174717:19
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rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Update python-netaddr in queens deps repository  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187117:21
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 5.6.4  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187717:22
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dmsimardchandankumar: that's juju stuff no ?17:27
rdogerritGabriele Cerami proposed config master: Add master to latest master update job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187617:28
chandankumardmsimard: they are using snap and lxc to deploy the stuff not sure what is used within that17:28
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dmsimardimplementation looks weird https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/blob/master/canonical-kubernetes/addons/common.sh17:28
dmsimardbut from my understanding it wraps around juju, yeah17:29
dmsimardthat's a juju file https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/blob/master/canonical-kubernetes/addons/prometheus/bundle.yaml17:29
dmsimardhttps://jujucharms.com/docs/2.3/charms-bundles17:29
chandankumaryes17:30
dmsimardI don't know anyone who actually uses Juju in real life17:30
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amoralejnumber80, jschlueter i need to fork jq distgit in rdo-common to include de cve fix in https://src.fedoraproject.org/fork/lon/rpms/jq/commits17:34
amoralejas there is not ldconfig_scriptlets macro in CBS17:34
amoralejapevec, ^ fyi17:34
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Promote new python-futures and python-netaddress to queens-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187817:34
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jschlueteramoralej: ack17:36
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created puppet/puppet-tripleo-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.5.9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188017:43
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/os-collect-config-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188417:43
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.5  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187417:44
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleoclient-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.2.4  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188517:44
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/os-net-config-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188617:44
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created rdoinfo master: Update jq to 1.5-10  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188717:49
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chandankumarGood night guys, see ya tomorrow :-)17:57
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number80amoralej|off: wait18:22
number80jq is owned by Flavio, I can merge that PR18:22
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sfbenderMerged DLRN master: API: store the user who initiated CI votes and promotions  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/1037218:23
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rdogerritMerged openstack/instack-undercloud-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.5  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188318:36
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rdogerritMerged openstack/os-apply-config-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188118:41
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apevecnumber80, jq cve PR from lon was merged yesterday18:46
rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleoclient-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.2.4  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188518:46
apevecbut it was not built yet18:46
number80ok, I can just trigger it18:46
apevecit's now included in f28 mass rebuild https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=103082518:46
apevecbut looks like it's stuck?18:46
apevecstarted 1h UTC18:46
apevecnumber80, ^18:46
number80ah, mass rebuild, yeah traffic jam18:47
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/glance-distgit rpm-master: openstack-glance: failed to build 4c221c7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188818:47
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sfbenderMerged DLRN master: Use target name when copying logs in run_tests.sh  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/1109618:47
number80I'll probably have my irc client beeping the whole week-end about builds done few days ago18:47
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apevecshut it down :)18:48
number8074781718:48
number80:)18:48
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-image-elements-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188218:50
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rdogerritMerged puppet/puppet-tripleo-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.5.9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188018:53
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rdogerritMerged openstack/os-net-config-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.1.3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1188618:58
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number80mwhahaha: out of curiosity, is puppet 5 something you're looking at for puppet modules?19:37
EmilienMnot for now I guess19:37
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mwhahahawould be nice for puppet-openstack but not necessarily for tripleo19:37
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EmilienMwe need to figure out until when puppet4 is supported19:38
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number80good point19:39
mwhahahanot sure you'd have to translate enterprise to community numbers19:40
number80mwhahaha: for starter, we can look to have a repo for puppet 5.x available for gating19:40
number80(starting with Rocky)19:40
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mwhahahacurrently we rely on PE for 5.x19:41
mwhahahacause it requires newer ruby and such19:41
mwhahahaso they do some gross bundling19:41
mwhahahahttps://puppet.com/products/capabilities/platform-support-lifecycle isn't very useful19:41
number80so that's something we also have to consider for providing stabilized fedora repo (which means we get a newer ruby too)19:42
number80as for unbundling with puppet, it has always been best effort19:42
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mwhahahaI wonder what version is PE 2016.4 is based off of19:45
mwhahahathat's coming up for EOL this year19:45
mwhahahai wonder if that's 4.x19:45
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number80mwhahaha: yep => https://puppet.com/docs/pe/2016.4/overview_version_table.html19:46
mwhahahaso 4.x is coming up for EOL this year19:47
mwhahahalovely19:47
number80I don't get how PE 2016.5.x has lower versions of puppet than 2016.4.x19:47
number80semver but the puppetlabs way19:48
mwhahahacause 4.x is their LTS19:48
mwhahahahttps://puppet.com/docs/pe/2017.3/overview/component_versions_in_recent_pe_releases.html19:48
mwhahahaso 2016.5.x was a short life one19:48
number80well, I hope that it'll be supported until we have a EL819:48
mwhahahaprobably not19:48
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number80we'll make do then19:49
mwhahahahttps://puppet.com/docs/pe/2017.3/overview/component_versions_in_recent_pe_releases.html19:49
mwhahahaso the next LTS will probably be 5.3 with ruby 2.419:49
mwhahahawhat's the current ruby version in fedora?19:49
mwhahaha2.4?19:49
number802.4.319:50
mwhahahayea so if we want to come up with a new version we'll need to stablize on fedora19:50
EmilienMnumber80: I already kicked off puppet5 testing19:50
EmilienMlongtime ago19:50
EmilienMnumber80: one year ago https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469482/19:50
EmilienMit worked well at that time19:51
number80EmilienM: we need it packaged and used at least in our downstream gating19:51
number80Fedora has 4.10.x19:51
mwhahahait might be beneficial to get 4.10.x in19:51
mwhahahasince we're currently 4.8.2 right?19:51
number80yep, we can push it for rocky19:51
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rdogerrittrown proposed config master: Allow Ocata->Pike upgrades job to run on branchless projects  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187220:01
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sfbenderMerged DLRN master: Ensure mutual locking between post-build and remote imports  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/1114620:46
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 6.2.5  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187921:26
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rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/puppet-dlrn master: Prepare for stable/queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1174522:10
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rdogerritAlan Pevec proposed rdo-infra/puppet-dlrn master: Support the release_numbering parameter in projects.ini  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1016122:15
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rdogerritSagi Shnaidman proposed config master: Allow Ocata->Pike upgrades job to run on branchless projects  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187222:17
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rdogerritAlan Pevec proposed rdoinfo master: Updating networking-cisco tags for Newton, Ocata  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1172922:33
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Promote new python-futures and python-netaddress to queens-testing  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1187822:42
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