Monday, 2016-10-31

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jpenagood morning rdo!08:00
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Humbedoohif it is a good morning, which I doubt...08:07
Humbedooh:)08:08
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chandankumarjpena, amoralej number80 dmellado Good Morning!08:16
dmelladomorning guys!08:16
dmelladochandankumar: btw, met a friend of you at the summit08:16
chandankumardmellado, awesome whom?08:17
dmelladooh, damn, lost the business card08:17
dmelladobut she deff knew you!08:17
chandankumardmellado, on Janki!08:17
dmelladoshe was working on tacker08:17
chandankumar*oh08:17
dmelladoyeah!08:17
chandankumardmellado, cool!08:18
dmelladohow're you doing? I've caught up quite the flu after the summit08:18
dmelladobecause the design sessions were done on a hotel called 'AC Hotel'08:18
dmelladothat honoured its name08:18
dmelladoxD08:18
* dmellado was freezing all along08:18
dmelladodmsimard: YOU!08:19
chandankumardmellado, I was learning to cook chicken and just finished eating. :-)08:19
chandankumardmellado, Take some rest and get well soon :-)08:19
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dmelladoyeah, I'll take it easy today, and tomorrow there's a bank holiday here08:20
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amoralejgood morning08:40
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdoinfo: Bump rdoinfo tags to latest upper-constraints  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/345209:10
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number80o/09:15
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dmelladoo/09:20
dmelladohi guys09:20
zoliXXLgood morning09:24
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rdogerritJavier Peña created config: Make sure rdoinfo u-c update job only submits reviews when needed  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/345509:40
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Humbedoohdid you have a fun beach party in Barcelona? :)09:44
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jpenanumber80, if you have a minute, could you build the latest version of openstack-macros in cbs?09:51
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number80yep09:56
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EmilienMo/10:26
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remix_tjdmellado: i can confirm that during openstack academy sessions was quite cold10:29
tosky"quite"10:34
toskyit was set to "freezing antarctica in a bad winter"10:34
remix_tj:-)10:35
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jpenaapevec: about the oslo.config revert, I've checked it and we'll need to add a  dummy spec commit for DLRN to pick it up10:53
apevecjpena, but do we actually hit the issue reported upstream?10:54
apevecif not, let'10:54
apevecs just keep it10:54
jpenaapevec: they mention octavia, so I don't think it's a big deal for us10:54
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apevecok then let's just wait for next in oslo.config release10:55
jpenaack10:55
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apevecbut it's good to have a revert procedure documented10:56
apevecI gues we could open a section in packaging docs about rdoinfo handling10:56
apevecor just readme in rdoinfo repo?10:56
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EmilienMcan we update puppet to 4?10:58
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jpenaEmilienM, let me prepare a last fake commit to test it10:58
EmilienMok, me too (in ooo)10:59
openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: [TEST DO NOT MERGE] Final test for Puppet 4 compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/39178511:00
apevecplease do test it good, we do not want to bother KB with another manual revert on buildlogs...11:01
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EmilienMI agree11:15
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* chandankumar will connect after an hour :-)11:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack: Use ostestr instead of nosetest  https://review.openstack.org/39168011:44
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* chandankumar back.12:07
jpenaflepied, do you have the url of the etherpad where we discussed the dlrn api last week?12:09
apevecI have (or rather my firefox does :)12:10
jpenaoh nice :)12:11
apevec.. it was chrome actually: https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/ci-aggregation12:11
apevecjpena, ^12:12
jpenathx!12:13
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hexo_hi there, i'm trying to run packstack on centos-7 vm12:53
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hexo_$ packstack --gen-answer-file=answers.txt12:53
hexo_and got12:54
hexo_ImportError: No module named pbr.version12:54
hexo_any idea, please?12:54
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jpenahexo_ which packstack version are you running? That means that you should install the python-pbr package, but it's already a dependency of openstack-packstack12:55
socialjpena: I think he tries to run from git12:56
hexo_git clone https://github.com/stackforge/packstack.git12:56
hexo_this version12:56
hexo_as was stated in manual12:56
hexo_bad idea?12:56
jpenahexo_, not a bad idea per se, but source install is mostly meant to be used by developers12:57
hexo_that would be correct12:58
hexo_hopefully12:58
hexo_i'd love to get some CI stuff up and running12:58
hexo_but I'm fighting with that way longer than supposed12:58
hexo_:D12:58
jpenaanyway, you'll need to install some packages: "yum install python-pbr python-netaddr PyYAML python-docutils python-cryptography pyOpenSSL"12:59
socialhexo_: from my old setup yum -y install git PyYAML python-setuptools python-netaddr pyOpenSSL; git clone https://github.com/stackforge/packstack.git ; cd packstack; python setup.py install_puppet_modules ; python setup.py install12:59
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hexo_No package python-pbr available.12:59
hexo_so, this is where I got12:59
socialhexo_: RDO repos needed12:59
dmsimardWhere did you even get the /stackforge/ link ? The project was moved a long time ago already and whatever documentation that was in is probably outdated by now12:59
hexo_https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack13:00
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hexo_here it is13:00
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hexo_so, what to do? can I file it somewhere? :)13:00
dmsimardThat's old :(13:00
hexo_social: RDO repos, hmmmm, that makes sense13:01
dmsimardhexo_: are you trying to install from source or from packages ?13:01
hexo_packstack is from git13:01
dmsimardhexo_: yes but do you *want* to install from git ? why ?13:02
hexo_because docs told me13:02
hexo_look, I feel like a dog - I don't know what I'm doing13:02
dmsimardhexo_: okay, let's forget those docs because we've improved a LOT since then and packstack is fully packaged now :P13:02
dmsimardhexo_: https://www.rdoproject.org/install/quickstart/ should be enough to get you started13:02
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dmsimardjpena: should we kill that? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack13:04
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jpenadmsimard: well, I wouldn't remove the page, but redo it13:05
jpenamaybe some minimal stuff to point in the right direction13:06
hexo_dmsimard: hm, okay, i'm supposed to do something with weirdo, but I didn't manage to setup a node for it13:06
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dmsimardjpena: the problem with the wiki is that it's not version controlled.. we should have docs somewhere that is not the wiki13:06
hexo_dmsimard: so, i'd love to get packstack in vm - bad idea?13:06
dmsimardjpena: unfortunately since packstack is not big tent, we don't have access to docs.o.o13:06
jpenadmsimard: ack, let's then edit the page to simply point to the Packstack docs13:06
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dmsimardjpena: I work around this by using readthedocs for ARA13:07
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dmsimardhexo_: what do you want to do with weirdo? :)13:07
amoralejdmsimard, what's the status of python-marathon?, i see the bz approved, but i think there is no package yet, right?13:09
amoralejgate jobs for puppet-magnum are failing because of it13:09
dmsimardamoralej: actually number80 had a nit around the licensing which I forgot to address, I'll do it right now13:09
amoralejok, thanks!13:09
hexo_dmsimard: i have no idea, you're author, right? I was supposed to - help with that? use it for something? and mainly dig in code and fix stuff13:10
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dmsimardhexo_: yup, I'm the author -- but I'm interested in knowing what you're after so I can point you in the right direction :)13:10
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number80yep13:13
hexo_dmsimard: hrm, i'd love to get it running first maybe. then, hm, do you know about something TBD?13:14
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dmsimardnumber80: what was it again? you wanted to create an issue in python-marathon about bundling the license in the source release tarballs and leave the license out of the spec ?13:14
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number80dmsimard: 1. create issue or PR upstream 2. add a comment in spec with link 3. remove license file13:20
dmsimardnumber80: ack13:20
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dmsimardhexo_: getting it to run doesn't tell me about what you are looking to do13:21
hexo_:(13:21
dmsimardhexo_: would you like to just be fixing bugs in packstack, for example ?13:21
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dmsimardamoralej|lunch: did jpena tell you about the WIP work I had with magnum in p-o-i ?13:25
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chandankumarnumber80, regarding this https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/PerfKitBenchmarker it will go under fedora package review or under rdo, since it will be consumed by any cloud provider?14:11
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number80chandankumar: fedora14:11
chandankumarack!14:11
number80general-purpose libraries just go there :014:12
number80s/:0/:)/14:12
amoralejdmsimard, i didn't know you are working to add puppet-magnum to p-o-i, i'm working to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360388/ working also14:12
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jdennis1rodrigods: ping14:17
zodbotjdennis1: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings14:17
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cylopezhello folk, where i can found the presentation from last week during the An Evening of Ceph and RDO14:32
rbowenStill working on it.14:32
cylopezrbowen: thx !14:32
rbowencylopez: Some of them are being posted to rdo-list, but I hope to have a complete list posted on the RDO blog in the next few days.14:32
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cylopezokok14:32
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* number80 is glad not to have just mimed it14:48
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dmsimardnumber80: wdyt about comment in https://github.com/thefactory/marathon-python/issues/156#issuecomment-257317962 ?15:07
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apevecfull license text is best to avoid any doubt15:08
dmsimardthat's what I thought to15:09
dmsimardtoo*15:09
dmsimardso I had the license file as a SOURCE in the spec file15:09
apevecthat's not correct15:09
dmsimardyeah, well I figured it was better than nothing15:09
dmsimardbut I understand the ramifications15:09
apevecupstream must define the license15:10
apevecthere are variants of "MIT License"15:10
number80dmsimard: nope, it has to include full license file15:11
apevechttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:MIT15:11
number80classifiers are often not up-to-date15:11
apevec22 at least :)15:11
number80(and it will make judges laughing so much that they'll choke if we ever have a lawsuit :) )15:12
apevecnumber80, that would be good (them to choke) :)15:12
number80lol :)15:12
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imcsk8good morning!15:35
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chandankumarnumber80, jpena amoralej apevec dmellado dmsimard rbowen imcsk8 Good night, see you tomorrow :-)15:48
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dmsimardif I was put in a room16:59
dmsimardand told to write unit tests to save my life16:59
dmsimardI would die16:59
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dmsimardMark Shuttleworth has an opinion on this "cloud" thing http://www.computerworlduk.com/cloud-computing/mark-shuttleworth-on-openstack-hpe-layoffs-prove-bs-as-service-theory-3648336/17:23
dmsimard"If I had advice for OpenStack at large, it's get rid of BS as a service," he continues. "The other stuff taints the reputation of OpenStack. When Heat fails, everybody can easily think OpenStack is failing- it's not, it's just bullshit as a service that's failing.17:24
dmsimard"Mirantis laid off 300 OpenStack developers" <-- I wonder where that number is from17:25
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number80it's not too far from truth ...17:26
number80for the rest, everyone is entitled to their own opinion17:27
dmsimardnumber80: yeah but I mean I don't think any numbers have been disclosed, unless mistaken ? Mirantis is still a private company..17:27
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number80no official communication, but I'd be surprised if M.S did not got these numbers from trusted sources.17:28
number80the real troll is the part about Juju17:30
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dmsimardlol17:33
dmsimardYeah of course he had to say that Juju and Charms were better than puppet17:33
number80I can17:37
number80't blame him for blaming puppet, but praising Juju shows his bad taste17:37
number80blame the puppet, not the puppeteer, that's something Jesus said17:38
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jpenahave fun!17:50
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apevecnumber80, real trolling is "he feels validated" part18:16
apevecand in polite company BS is not used18:17
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number80well, he contradicted himself, since UCA and juju supports so-called services ...18:23
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dmsimardmisc: I added you to the ara_record reviews if you're bored :p20:17
dmsimardnot done, almost there though20:17
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number80dmsimard: no worries, he'll finish it for you20:24
number80I'd say you need to wait few more hours20:24
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dmsimardnumber80: I'm really struggling with unit tests.. I can extend something existing that has been bootstrapped but starting something from scratch meh :(20:27
number80use py.test, it's magical20:29
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dmsimardnumber80: that's what I'm using20:36
dmsimardit's just around how to create fake/mocked resources20:37
dmsimardmy brain is just bad at it20:37
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