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| chandankumar | jpena, number80 \o/ | 07:59 |
| jpena | o/ | 07:59 |
| chandankumar | jpena, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/405236/70815971/ | 07:59 |
| chandankumar | Have you seen this behaviour in dlrn? | 07:59 |
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| jpena | that's the expected message when a package build fails | 08:00 |
| jpena | anything at the rpmbuild.log file? | 08:01 |
| chandankumar | jpena, INFO:dlrn:Processing openstack-tempest 81086e4cc4152fd672b381c37904a8f2d9bdc8ac | 08:01 |
| jpena | I mean /home/vagrant/DLRN/data/repos/2a/47/2a472d8f254a9ee4acd2373ff41680b290f00df1_dev/rpmbuild.log | 08:01 |
| chandankumar | actually if a build fails, it agains starts processing the commit second time | 08:01 |
| chandankumar | that is worrying me | 08:01 |
| jpena | ohhh, I see | 08:02 |
| jpena | it's processing a different commit | 08:03 |
| number80 | o/ | 08:03 |
| jpena | let me check that, it should not happen in --dev mode | 08:03 |
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| chandankumar | jpena, ok | 08:03 |
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| jpena | chandankumar: it's interesting. I always thought --dev implies --head-only, but it never did. If you have a previous commit for openstack-tempest in the sqlite db, this is normal behaviour | 08:11 |
| jpena | we can change that (it's a trivial fix), but I'm not sure if it would break someone | 08:11 |
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| chandankumar | jpena, i am seeing it from last night, so i left the laptop open with dlrn running, went to sleep | 08:13 |
| jpena | chandankuar: just check what's in commits.db (select id, commit_hash, status from commits where project_name='openstack-tempest') | 08:13 |
| jpena | if there's some commit there, it's expected. Just remove them or remove commits.db if you're not interested in keeping the db | 08:14 |
| chandankumar | jpena, sure | 08:14 |
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| chandankumar | jpena, one more query dlrn does not provide verbose mode like seeing mock output as a stdout on terminal ? | 08:16 |
| jpena | chandankumar: not yet, but you're the second person to ask (dmsimard did it a few days ago), so we'll have to implement it :) | 08:17 |
| chandankumar | hmm | 08:17 |
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| chandankumar | amoralej, \o/ | 08:29 |
| jpena | o/ | 08:30 |
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| chandankumar | number80, tempest upstream rpms are ready, i need to fix some shebang issue, then i will upload on fedorapeople for testing | 09:24 |
| chandankumar | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/405261/82101014/ | 09:25 |
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| chandankumar | dlrn takes too much time in building a tempest rpm locally i donot know why | 09:26 |
| number80 | chandankumar: problem is not having a vanilla package of tempest but having both vanilla and downstream tempest together | 09:27 |
| chandankumar | number80, What about shipping downstream one as a patches? with the upstream tempest rpms? | 09:28 |
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| number80 | still not solving the problem | 09:29 |
| number80 | we have users who need vanilla tempest and others needing downstream tempest | 09:29 |
| number80 | one package can't fit both use cases | 09:29 |
| hewbrocca | tosky: ^^^ | 09:30 |
| number80 | and downstream tempest is too heavily patched for that | 09:30 |
| chandankumar | once upstream rpm is done, i will try to sync rh/tempest with upstream and try both to find what is the difference | 09:30 |
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| number80 | " Pull request Compare This branch is 192 commits ahead, 345 commits behind openstack:master. " | 09:31 |
| number80 | a lot of patches | 09:31 |
| tosky | chandankumar: it's not so easy as it would expect; the downstream one a) has not been synchronized for a while as it lead to breakages to tempest plugins using the (for now) unstable interface | 09:31 |
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| jpena | at the end, I think we'll have two packages | 09:31 |
| tosky | chandankumar_: it's not so easy as it would expect; the downstream one a) has not been synchronized for a while as it lead to breakages to tempest plugins using the (for now) unstable interface | 09:31 |
| tosky | chandankumar_: and also the configuration, which is the easiest part, as it could be stripped in a separated package | 09:31 |
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| tosky | (guess what: it needs someone who should do it) | 09:32 |
| number80 | jpena: yes, we just need to figure out the provides/conflicts magic to make them coexists in the repo | 09:32 |
| jpena | number80: agreed | 09:32 |
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| chandankumar_ | so a new package as a tempest-config for only shipping tempest config only ? | 09:36 |
| tosky | *if* it is decided to proceed that way, the config part should be moved to a separate source repository | 09:39 |
| tosky | this is my thought but I'm not the one who can decide it | 09:39 |
| tosky | dmellado also started working in that direction: https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/266365/ | 09:40 |
| chandankumar_ | we have not decided anything it is still in discussion. | 09:40 |
| tosky | but you know... time | 09:40 |
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| number80 | matbu: can you attend the RDO meeting today? we'd like to hear how you use tempest in RDO CI | 09:43 |
| number80 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 09:43 |
| number80 | I'll ping weshay when he'll be online | 09:43 |
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| number80 | jpena: looks like QE are fine with either tempest | 09:46 |
| matbu | number80: k, but i'm not sure i'm the tempest guys in rdo-ci | 09:47 |
| matbu | number80: sshnaidm is probably the best person | 09:47 |
| number80 | matbu: we just need to understand which version you use and how | 09:47 |
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| number80 | works for me | 09:47 |
| number80 | sshnaidm: ^ | 09:47 |
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| number80 | I'd like to close that topic asap | 09:47 |
| number80 | next promotion and M3 are more important topics | 09:49 |
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| tosky | number80: "looks like QE are fine" in the sense that we need both | 09:54 |
| tosky | not that we need just one | 09:54 |
| tosky | until at least we find a way to easily rebase the upstream version without breaking the stable plugins | 09:55 |
| number80 | tosky: we will provide both, I just need to figure out how to do that without breaking your use cases | 09:56 |
| tosky | number80: our use case is currently tied to the configurator | 09:56 |
| tosky | hence my proposed solution above (detach it) | 09:56 |
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| number80 | tosky: is it easy to change package name in that configurator? | 09:58 |
| number80 | like replacing "install openstack-tempest by openstack-tempest-redhat"? | 09:58 |
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| tosky | number80: if we had a separate configurator, yes | 09:59 |
| tosky | did you check what the autoconfiguration script actually is? | 09:59 |
| number80 | tosky: configurator is different than khaleesi? | 09:59 |
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| * number80 not familiar with QE setup hence the dumb questions | 09:59 | |
| tosky | number80: this has nothing to do with khaleesi (or its successors) | 09:59 |
| number80 | ok | 10:00 |
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| tosky | or at least partially, they can be adapted | 10:00 |
| tosky | so, I'm going to paste a bit of downstream documentation, but this is relevant here | 10:00 |
| number80 | go ahead, understanding the use-case do help | 10:00 |
| tosky | https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/red-hat-openstack-platform/version-8/director-installation-and-usage/#sect-Validating_the_Overcloud | 10:00 |
| tosky | look for the tools/configure-tempest-directory and then tools/config_tempest.py | 10:01 |
| tosky | this is the main addition to redhat-openstack/tempest compared to upstream tempest | 10:01 |
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| tosky | oh, and tools/run-tests.sh | 10:01 |
| chandankumar_ | tools/configure-tempest-directory goes to /usr/share/tempest-version/ | 10:01 |
| tosky | chandankumar_: that's a simple detail | 10:02 |
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| tosky | let's go for the general picture | 10:02 |
| tosky | chandankumar_: and it does not go in that directory, it's simply its location | 10:03 |
| number80 | I think we should then introduce openstack-tempest under a different name (and carry that as a provides) until dmellado comes back | 10:03 |
| tosky | as I mentioned, dmellado was trying to rewrite this configuration script in a more clean way: https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/266365/ | 10:03 |
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| tosky | the long term solution is different (having something else creating the tempest configuration, which in my mind should be TripleO) | 10:04 |
| tosky | but the short/medium term is help dmellado detach the configuration script (which is used downstream for testing) | 10:04 |
| tosky | and documented downstream | 10:04 |
| number80 | I agree | 10:04 |
| number80 | this is temp workaround so that we don't block anyone | 10:04 |
| number80 | people who want to use vanilla tempest can do it safely, and we don't break existing use-cases | 10:05 |
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| number80 | when dmellado comes back, we'll figure out the path of shipping only vanilla tempest | 10:05 |
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| tosky | if anyone want to do something in the meantime, take a look at the review above :) | 10:07 |
| tosky | and try to make it working | 10:07 |
| number80 | yes | 10:07 |
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| number80 | interesting openstack-tempest has an epoch of 1 | 10:07 |
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| number80 | openstack-tempest-vanilla could provide openstack-tempest (not breaking existing packages as no deps requires it with version) | 10:08 |
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| number80 | so new use-case would just install openstack-tempest-vanilla, which would prevent installing openstack-tempest later | 10:09 |
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| number80 | and by default the existing package would win if someone just looks at installing openstack-tempest | 10:09 |
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| number80 | could work I guess | 10:10 |
| tosky | so if you have openstack-tempest-vanilla and you ask yum to install openstack-tempest, the epoch should win and you should get your package, did I get it right? | 10:11 |
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| number80 | tosky: with conflicts, we can prevent that | 10:19 |
| tosky | number80: I mean, replace the other | 10:19 |
| tosky | not co-install | 10:19 |
| number80 | co-install is not possible | 10:19 |
| number80 | but by default, yes epoch wins so openstack-tempest would get installed | 10:19 |
| tosky | yes, I understand it: my question is whether you need to remove one to install the other, or the break/replace should allow to switch from one to the other by just saying "install this" | 10:20 |
| number80 | yes | 10:20 |
| tosky | ok, perfect :) | 10:20 |
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| number80 | I think we should also fix packages depending on tempest to Requires: tempest and have both openstack-tempest{,-vanilla} provides it | 10:21 |
| number80 | oh, even better | 10:23 |
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| sshnaidm | number80, hi, what was the question..? | 10:33 |
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| rdogerrit | Javier Peña created DLRN: Add option to show verbose mock output on console http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1828 | 11:05 |
| jpena | dmsimard, chandankumar: ^^ | 11:06 |
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| rdogerrit | Javier Peña proposed DLRN: Add option to show verbose mock output on console http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1828 | 11:16 |
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| chandankumar | tosky, number80 Here is the upstream tempest rpms https://chandankumar.fedorapeople.org/tempest/ | 11:24 |
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| chandankumar | number80, please review it https://github.com/chkumar246/upstream-tempest | 11:24 |
| number80 | sshnaidm: sorry, was cooking lunch | 11:25 |
| number80 | sshnaidm: the question was about how you use tempest in QE as we have to package both our fork and upstream versions of tempest | 11:25 |
| * sshnaidm was eating lunch | 11:25 | |
| chandankumar | jpena, will try | 11:26 |
| number80 | chandankumar: ack, but we | 11:26 |
| number80 | ''ll have to do changes anyway, as we have to figure out how to avoid packages conflicts | 11:26 |
| number80 | for instance, we | 11:26 |
| number80 | may need to rename that package | 11:26 |
| * chandankumar waits till meeting. | 11:27 | |
| number80 | yes | 11:27 |
| sshnaidm | number80, hm, I'm not in QE, but do some work with tempest in tripleo upstream | 11:27 |
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| number80 | sshnaidm: ack | 11:32 |
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| jschlueter | number80: some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344932/19/packaging/openstack-tripleo-ui-deps.spec could use answered if you have any time this morning | 11:35 |
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| weshay | adarazs, dmsimard ping re master promote | 12:03 |
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| adarazs | weshay: hi. looks like there's some cinder stuff blocking us, according to the email.? | 12:05 |
| weshay | adarazs, ya.. for the minimal job | 12:05 |
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| weshay | adarazs, for the pacemaker job it looks like validate failed | 12:05 |
| weshay | adarazs, dmsimard my suggestion is to pin the hash for master | 12:05 |
| adarazs | weshay: yeah, which is weird. I only have a minimal job reproduced on my machine, I'll do a pacemaker job and see why it fails. | 12:06 |
| weshay | and the tempest failures to the skip list w/ a bug, and see if the validate error is transient | 12:06 |
| weshay | adarazs, and regarding pinning the master job to.... | 12:06 |
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| adarazs | weshay: minimal_pacemaker is not using tempest, so the validate error is on the pingtest: https://ci.centos.org/artifacts/rdo/jenkins-tripleo-quickstart-promote-master-delorean-minimal_pacemaker-15/undercloud/home/stack/overcloud_validate.log.gz | 12:07 |
| weshay | https://ci.centos.org/artifacts/rdo/jenkins-tripleo-quickstart-promote-master-delorean-minimal-468/undercloud/etc/yum.repos.d/delorean.repo.gz | 12:07 |
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| weshay | suggesting that we pin to 434269a0e82c654f5b303e3cf9689ed1fd9623d8_78921014 | 12:08 |
| weshay | in https://ci.centos.org/job/rdo-promote-get-hash-master/ | 12:08 |
| adarazs | weshay: why? | 12:08 |
| weshay | adarazs, so that we can promote | 12:08 |
| weshay | new changes could come in and reset all the jobs to failing | 12:09 |
| weshay | adarazs, we're at 15 days https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 12:09 |
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| weshay | adarazs, think about, get w/ dmsimard and let me know re: the pin | 12:12 |
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| adarazs | weshay: I'm not sure we can solve/waive every issue with that hash. I need to get an overview about the failures there. | 12:12 |
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| adarazs | looking into it. | 12:14 |
| weshay | adarazs, pin the hash, bug the failing tempest tests | 12:15 |
| weshay | and we may get lucky w/ validate on pacemaker | 12:16 |
| adarazs | weshay: yeah, that's my concern that that could be a real bug. :) I'm reproducing the pacemaker job locally to see if it passes/debug if not. | 12:16 |
| weshay | this is my suggestion, because the longer we go w/o a promote the longer internal goes w/o a build and we'll start getting a lot of negative attention | 12:17 |
| weshay | adarazs, aye | 12:17 |
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| adarazs | weshay: did you do the pinning before? you just edit the get-hash job and hardcode $NEW_HASH? | 12:19 |
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| amoralej | weshay,adarazs, we have the cinder issue afecting both tripleo jobs | 12:22 |
| amoralej | not only the minimal | 12:22 |
| weshay | adarazs, ya.. just hand edit the get-hash-master | 12:22 |
| weshay | but first put in a change to skip tempest | 12:23 |
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| amoralej | weshay, minimal_pacemaker failure is related to the cinder issue also, and in fact it's a valid bug that should be fixed i think | 12:24 |
| weshay | amoralej, I agree it should be fixed | 12:25 |
| weshay | amoralej, but it can be fixed in the next build | 12:25 |
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| adarazs | weshay: though we can't make the pingtest pass without it I guess. | 12:26 |
| amoralej | if we promote, we'll get a non-functional cinder with tripleo deployment | 12:26 |
| weshay | amoralej, I saw your comments, I agree. However.. new changes are coming in ALL the time.. if we wait for that fix something else will certainly break | 12:26 |
| amoralej | could a fix be added in tripleo to add the default_volume_type parameter? | 12:26 |
| amoralej | we did that in packstack | 12:26 |
| weshay | amoralej, which we'll note.. but downstream needs *a* build | 12:26 |
| amoralej | but i'm not sure how to do it in tripleo to be honest | 12:27 |
| amoralej | in fact, i couldn't fine even where volume-types are created with tripleo | 12:27 |
| adarazs | no idea either. I guess we need something for THT | 12:27 |
| adarazs | anyway, in this state we can't promote this hash, we need later hashes either with the cinder fix or a tripleo workaround. :/ | 12:28 |
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| amoralej | that's my guess also adarazs | 12:29 |
| hewbrocca | gfidente: ^^^ can you advise here re Cinder? | 12:31 |
| adarazs | amoralej: do you have any insight about how quickly https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353120/ can land for cinder? is it worth trying to make a workaround in tripleo? | 12:31 |
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| amoralej | no idea, adarazs, i can't estimate the effort to implement workaround in tripleo | 12:32 |
| adarazs | amoralej: I think it should be pretty low effort, but useless if the cinder change merges soon-ish | 12:32 |
| gfidente | hewbrocca, ack thanks for pinging, reading back | 12:33 |
| amoralej | gfidente https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1610073 | 12:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610073 in Cinder "Create volume without volume type failed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Karthik Prabhu Vinod (karthik-prabhu-vinod) | 12:33 |
| hewbrocca | we should merge the cinder fix | 12:33 |
| hewbrocca | it's also breaking upstream CI | 12:33 |
| amoralej | it's impacting deployments with tripleo | 12:33 |
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| gfidente | amoralej, right in tripleo we don't set default_volume_type because we don't create any type either | 12:36 |
| amoralej | that was my guess, so it'll be harder to implement the workaround | 12:36 |
| gfidente | so the workaround should create a type and set it as default, correct? | 12:36 |
| amoralej | yeap | 12:37 |
| amoralej | in packstack, we already created the type, so we only had to add the default_volume_type | 12:37 |
| gfidente | amoralej, is this affecting mitaka too? | 12:37 |
| amoralej | i think only newton | 12:38 |
| gfidente | so can't we count on the cinder fix for newton? | 12:38 |
| amoralej | let me try to find out... | 12:38 |
| amoralej | it'll be fixed, it just a matter of time | 12:38 |
| amoralej | hopefully... | 12:39 |
| gfidente | ok I also want to find out why tripleo ci is not failing on this though | 12:39 |
| gfidente | as we create a volume and even boot from volume | 12:39 |
| hewbrocca | gfidente: I think it might be actually | 12:39 |
| hewbrocca | slagle: ^^^ | 12:39 |
| amoralej | what version of cinder are you using in tripleo ci? | 12:39 |
| amoralej | you use consistent link from rdo for tripleo ci, right? | 12:40 |
| gfidente | let me find out | 12:40 |
| gfidente | python-cinder = 1:9.0.0-0.20160803054904.8eb0c89.el7.centos | 12:44 |
| gfidente | I think 8eb0 is the commit hash | 12:44 |
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| amoralej | this was built one week ago... | 12:45 |
| weshay | hewbrocca, yes/no push for a promote today? | 12:45 |
| gfidente | amoralej, right so we don't have the bug yet? | 12:46 |
| amoralej | let me check... | 12:46 |
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| slagle | gfidente: it is failing on it | 12:47 |
| slagle | gfidente: the periodic job using current is failing | 12:48 |
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| gfidente | slagle, oh periodic | 12:48 |
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| gfidente | slagle, that's the one building the cached image as well right? | 12:49 |
| amoralej | gfidente, apparently https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246600/ introduced the issue | 12:49 |
| amoralej | which is newer that 8eb0c89 | 12:49 |
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| gfidente | amoralej, yeah that closes the thing | 12:49 |
| amoralej | yeap | 12:49 |
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| gfidente | slagle, so looks like one of those times when we can say "things are working right" as we don't get a broken image at gating | 12:50 |
| slagle | gfidente: we arent using cached images | 12:50 |
| gfidente | slagle, but we also don't get to test the newer stuff until cinder is fixed unless we add the workaround | 12:50 |
| gfidente | slagle, I merged that | 12:51 |
| gfidente | but probably was before ovb> | 12:51 |
| gfidente | ? | 12:51 |
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| slagle | gfidente: ok, i thought you were asking me :) | 12:51 |
| gfidente | right I probably am | 12:51 |
| gfidente | think I need a recup, more appropriate on #tripleo though? | 12:51 |
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| gfidente | so we can figure if it's best to add the workaround in tripleo or not | 12:53 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: can you explain what you want to do to promote ? I think I'm missing context. | 12:58 |
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| weshay | dmsimard, I'm suggesting we pin master promote to https://ci.centos.org/artifacts/rdo/jenkins-tripleo-quickstart-promote-master-delorean-minimal-468/undercloud/etc/yum.repos.d/delorean.repo.gz | 13:08 |
| weshay | brb | 13:08 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: what's special about that hash and how old is it ? | 13:09 |
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| weshay | dmsimard, it's passing the ooo deployment but has a known cinder issue | 13:14 |
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| rbowen | Someone told me last week that the P and Q names had been announced somewhere, but I can't find that. Anybody know? | 13:16 |
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| number80 | rbowen: last notice we had from Monty was that P&Q naming polls results were under legal reviews | 13:32 |
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| number80 | RDO meeting in 87 min | 13:33 |
| rbowen | number80: Yeah, I found that email. Thanks. I guess there's nothing beyond that. | 13:33 |
| number80 | well, you can try and bribe Monty to get the news ahead :) | 13:35 |
| rbowen | We should call Q 'Quantum', so that we can really confuse people. | 13:35 |
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| number80 | \o/ | 13:36 |
| number80 | and invite Scott Bacula for a keynote at Q summit | 13:37 |
| rbowen | Yes! | 13:37 |
| tbarron | hewbrocca: amoralej|lunch is the plan to do a workaround for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1610073 by setting a default volume type? | 13:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610073 in Cinder "Create volume without volume type failed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Karthik Prabhu Vinod (karthik-prabhu-vinod) | 13:40 |
| tbarron | eharney: ^^^ | 13:40 |
| tbarron | hewbrocca: amoralej|lunch I think it's a realistic thing to do anyways | 13:40 |
| tbarron | we don't currently own the review for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1610073 and (to me at least) it's a bit muddled, so getting the workaround going makes sense even if we give that review our attention | 13:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610073 in Cinder "Create volume without volume type failed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Karthik Prabhu Vinod (karthik-prabhu-vinod) | 13:41 |
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| amoralej | gfidente ^^^ see tbarron comment about cinder issue | 13:46 |
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| number80 | jruzicka: jpena caught a glitches in your review => https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1824/1 | 13:49 |
| number80 | if you can fix it, we can merge it right away | 13:50 |
| number80 | (this proves that waiting 2*+2 is worth the wait) | 13:51 |
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| rbowen | number80: Or John de Lancie | 14:00 |
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| number80 | he'd be awesome :) | 14:01 |
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| rbowen | number80: meeting time? | 14:03 |
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| hewbrocca | tbarron: thank you for your help | 14:04 |
| hewbrocca | slagle, gfidente OK let's work around this thing | 14:04 |
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| number80 | rbowen: it should be in an hour | 14:06 |
| number80 | date -d "3pm UTC" | 14:06 |
| rbowen | Hmm. Looks like my calendar got confused again. :/ | 14:06 |
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| rbowen | You're right. | 14:06 |
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| dmsimard | \o/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263866/ merged AND WE HAVE BORDERS | 14:09 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/heat-distgit: Use dist configuration when starting services http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1827 | 14:10 |
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| rdogerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed rdopkg: cbsbuild: make koji module optional http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1824 | 14:12 |
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| jruzicka | number80, jpena oops... unit testing missing optional modules might be nice... | 14:15 |
| jruzicka | for now, yay to human superpowers | 14:15 |
| jruzicka | jpena++ | 14:16 |
| zodbot | jruzicka: Karma for jpena changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any | 14:16 |
| number80 | jruzicka: yep | 14:16 |
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| jschlueter | number80: what's normal process for getting updated version of rabbitmq-server into cbs common-testing tag? | 14:24 |
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| jschlueter | number80: 3.6.3-6 is out in fedora 3.6.3-5 is in a version of OSP but would like to get RDO updated to something greater than rabbitmq-server-3.6.2-4.el7 | 14:25 |
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| number80 | jschlueter: I'm not sure what was the plan, apevec was syncing w/ petro for RabbitMQ updates | 14:30 |
| number80 | I'll take a look | 14:30 |
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| jschlueter | number80: thanks last build from fedora was back on Jul 25, before that was Jul 22 | 14:31 |
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| alee | EmilienM, here is clone: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1365936 | 14:34 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1365936 in openstack-puppet-modules "import puppet-barbican into OPM" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to emacchi | 14:34 |
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| dmsimard | Something just came up, need to afk for a bit. I'll miss the meeting. Sorry. number80 you can mute the bot ? :) | 14:42 |
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| rbowen | dmsimard: Done | 14:57 |
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| chandankumar | number80, meeting time | 15:01 |
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| number80 | who is supposed to chair? | 15:01 |
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| number80 | #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-08-10 | 15:02 |
| zodbot | Meeting started Wed Aug 10 15:02:05 2016 UTC. The chair is number80. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:02 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2016-08-10' | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 10 15:02:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is number80. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2016_08_10' | 15:02 |
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| number80 | #topic roll call | 15:02 |
| chandankumar | number80, https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/sresults/?group_id=rdo&type=channel i think number80 is the chair | 15:02 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 15:02 |
| number80 | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 15:02 |
| rbowen | According to the agenda, yes. :-) | 15:02 |
| rbowen | o/ | 15:02 |
| number80 | completely forgot :) | 15:02 |
| jpena | o/ | 15:02 |
| jruzicka | o/ | 15:03 |
| amoralej | o/ | 15:03 |
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| coolsvap | o/ | 15:03 |
| number80 | dmsimard: around? | 15:03 |
| rbowen | He just said he had to leave. | 15:04 |
| rbowen | well, 20 minutes ago. | 15:04 |
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| number80 | ok | 15:04 |
| number80 | #chair chandankumar rbowen jpena jruzicka amoralej coolsvap | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
| jschlueter | o/ | 15:04 |
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| number80 | let's start | 15:04 |
| number80 | #chair jschlueter | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
| number80 | #topic Add vanilla tempest package | 15:05 |
| chandankumar | tosky, EmilienM RDO meeting. | 15:05 |
| tosky | hi | 15:05 |
| number80 | we had a request to ship a vanilla tempest package | 15:05 |
| chandankumar | #chair tosky | 15:05 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen tosky | 15:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen tosky | 15:05 |
| number80 | considering that part of our CI and test teams are using the heavily modified current package, it's not possible to replace it | 15:06 |
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| number80 | so workaround is to ship both and make sure that they co-exists in our repository without breaking current use cases | 15:06 |
| flepied | o/ | 15:06 |
| number80 | #chair flepied | 15:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap flepied jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen tosky | 15:06 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar coolsvap flepied jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen tosky | 15:06 |
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| amoralej | i think dmellado was working in a better solution for tempest package | 15:07 |
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| amoralej | but he's on PTO now | 15:07 |
| chandankumar | so we need a small gap solution for tempest | 15:07 |
| number80 | yes, he'll be back around M3 so we're now trying to find a workaround to work for everyone | 15:08 |
| number80 | s/to/that/ | 15:08 |
| number80 | proposal: ship openstack-tempest-vanilla, and have both openstack-tempest{,-vanilla} provides tempest | 15:09 |
| amoralej | who will use the new vanilla package? | 15:09 |
| number80 | and dependencies should require tempest instead of the package directly | 15:09 |
| number80 | amoralej: I had requests from dmsimard and EmilienM | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | number80: you always has requests from us. | 15:09 |
| number80 | EmilienM: this one is reasonable, just not good timing :) | 15:10 |
| jpena | which tempest would win if we install a package that depends on it? Would the Epoch in openstack-tempest prevail? | 15:10 |
| jpena | let's say we install python-designate-tests-tempest without any tempest package installed | 15:10 |
| number80 | jpena: not necessarily, hence the Provides: tempest (note that it's unversioned) | 15:10 |
| number80 | both packages will conflicts, but yum will likely prefer the existing one (due to epoch) | 15:11 |
| chandankumar | so basically we have two tempest package one from upstream and another from rh-openstack/tempest which will provide tempest, am i right? | 15:11 |
| number80 | but, if you use the package name, the one installed will prevail | 15:12 |
| number80 | chandankumar: just one, the latter | 15:12 |
| amoralej | what about dependencies, we'll keep them as they are? tempest-vanilla will depend on all -tests packages? | 15:12 |
| amoralej | as openstack-tempest? | 15:12 |
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| number80 | EmilienM: would installing explicitly openstack-tempest-vanilla would work for you? until we fix openstack-tempest? | 15:12 |
| number80 | amoralej: actually, it won't matter | 15:13 |
| jpena | actually, if we do this, I'd do dependencies right (-test packages depend on tempest, not the other way around) | 15:13 |
| number80 | tempest-vanilla can depends on all -tests | 15:13 |
| number80 | and -tests should requires: tempest (not openstack-tempest) | 15:13 |
| number80 | so won't break | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | number80: yes | 15:14 |
| amoralej | i don't like the idea of tempest requiring -tests, but chinging that would require other changes probably | 15:14 |
| number80 | jpena: we can do that, that's relatively easy to do | 15:14 |
| jpena | number80. Ack. Would it impact CIs relying on -test packages? I'd assume no, but just in case, EmilienM? | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | no | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | I see a problem though | 15:15 |
| number80 | jpena: existing downstream CI should not be affected | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | Tempest CI is currently running our puppet jobs | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | and for that, we use zuul-cloner | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | so using a packaging in RDO would not help us, since we need tempest from source in that case | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349124/ | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | and see puppet jobs (non voting) | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | it's possible thanks to https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/run_tests.sh#L73-L74 | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | if we stop doing ^ and we deploy the new package, the jobs in tempest gate would be useless | 15:17 |
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| jpena | EmilienM: ok, I see. | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | and we like tempest testing our jobs | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | because we avoid them to inject regressions | 15:17 |
| number80 | EmilienM: so why using plugins packages? | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | number80: good question | 15:17 |
| number80 | I don't mind that we use git or RPM, but mixing them is not a good idea | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | iirc, it was introduced because regular packages didn't have the tests | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | so we started to package them | 15:18 |
| number80 | not all packages have yet -tests subpackages | 15:18 |
| tosky | it's still a work in progress (and more and more Tempest tests will be in plugins) | 15:19 |
| number80 | I suggest that we remove tempest deps from all -tests subpackages | 15:19 |
| chandankumar | number80, i think all the openstack services has test subpackages | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 15:19 |
| chandankumar | https://github.com/openstack/puppet-tempest/blob/master/manifests/params.pp#L15 | 15:19 |
| number80 | chandankumar: not all of them, I came accross few ones that don't | 15:20 |
| number80 | let's vote about removing tempest as dependency to -tests packages | 15:20 |
| chandankumar | number80, please let me know we can create the test sub packages. | 15:20 |
| number80 | +1 | 15:20 |
| amoralej | number80 | 15:20 |
| number80 | ack | 15:20 |
| number80 | amoralej: yes? | 15:20 |
| amoralej | but what's the purpose of removing the dev? | 15:21 |
| amoralej | dependency? | 15:21 |
| number80 | amoralej: if upstream CI uses tempest from git, it may conflict | 15:21 |
| number80 | mixing git/pip installed modules with RPM packages may bring unwanted side-effect | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | i'll give a try (later this week maybe) to setup plugins from source in puppet ci | 15:22 |
| amoralej | ok, we should understand that mixing plugins as rpm + tempest from source is a requirement, right? | 15:22 |
| number80 | it also means that the whole topic of having vanilla tempest may be delayed up to dmellado return | 15:22 |
| jruzicka | +1 | 15:22 |
| amoralej | yes, then we are in the point we were yesterday with dmsimard :) | 15:22 |
| number80 | amoralej: well, I wouldn't support that configuration. | 15:23 |
| tosky | number80: upstream CI uses tempest from git and it installs it in its own virtualenv, so if it the virtualenv is isolated it can't access system-installed plugins | 15:23 |
| number80 | at least tempest + its plugins should be installed from same sources | 15:23 |
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| amoralej | i think the point is that some projects have tempest plugin in main git repo | 15:23 |
| number80 | tosky: we had a review to allow mixing tempests plugins packages w/ git-installed tempests | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | the problem is afik puppet ci doesnt deploy tempest in vevn | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | venv* | 15:23 |
| amoralej | with service code | 15:23 |
| amoralej | so it's not that easy to install the plugin from source, maybe | 15:24 |
| tosky | number80: if tempest is installed systemd-wide (so at the same level of the plugins, or with visibility to the plugins) than it's fine | 15:24 |
| amoralej | when it has it's own project is probably much easier | 15:24 |
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| tosky | number80: they just need to be in the same... installation environment | 15:24 |
| number80 | tosky: the thing is, we should not allow people installing stuff in system site-packages | 15:25 |
| tosky | number80: correct as well | 15:25 |
| weshay | hrybacki, any resolution to the missing overcloud rst's? | 15:25 |
| tosky | number80: but I think that tempest with a venv with --system-site-packages should work | 15:26 |
| tosky | just for the record | 15:26 |
| number80 | tosky: that would be a good workaround | 15:26 |
| * number80 suggests to move out to the mailing-list | 15:26 | |
| number80 | one topic ate 1/3 of the allocated time :) | 15:26 |
| hrybacki | weshay: gate is calling roles-deploy.sh, not quickstart.yml, so it's using tripleo-overcloud (which doesn't have the changes) instead of the native role to deploy the overcloud | 15:26 |
| hrybacki | so nothing is broken | 15:26 |
| number80 | please wait, meeting is running | 15:27 |
| number80 | #topic Volunteers wanted to talk about what you're doing in Newton, for RDO podcast | 15:27 |
| amoralej | +1 to remove tempest dependency from -tests so far and wait for dmellado feedback before creating the vanilla package | 15:27 |
| rbowen | The kids have gone back to school, so my office is quiet again. Over the coming weeks, I'd like to do podcasts with members of various OpenStack projects about what's coming in Newton. I'm looking for volunteers. | 15:27 |
| number80 | amoralej: ack | 15:27 |
| rbowen | I'm looking for 10-15 minutes, talking about what you're working on, what you're excited about in Newton, that sort of thing. | 15:28 |
| number80 | #info rbowen is looking for volunteers for RDO Newton release podcasts | 15:28 |
| weshay | hrybacki, meh.. just flip it to quickstart then | 15:28 |
| rbowen | See https://dmsimard.com/2016/05/15/what-did-everyone-do-for-the-mitaka-release-of-openstack/ for examples of what we did last time. | 15:28 |
| rbowen | </end of topic> | 15:28 |
| number80 | thanks | 15:28 |
| number80 | #topic Cleanup old commits from former centos7-master in DLRN instance | 15:28 |
| number80 | jpena: ? | 15:29 |
| jpena | we're still using quite a lot of space in the old centos7-master (now centos7-master-head) | 15:29 |
| jpena | now that we've moved jobs to the new worker (using upper-constraints) it would be a good time to purge it | 15:29 |
| amoralej | my only concern is that i remember from migration to ci.centos that specific hash repos where hardcoded in some places | 15:30 |
| amoralej | i remember tripleo ci i.e. | 15:30 |
| amoralej | so, purging may remove those olds repos, right? | 15:30 |
| jpena | amoralej: not anymore. We copied hardcoded hashed repos to the new centos-newton worker | 15:30 |
| jpena | so if there was something wrong, it should have failed by now, the old worker has a different url | 15:30 |
| amoralej | sorry, you are talking only about the old server | 15:31 |
| amoralej | right? | 15:31 |
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| jpena | amoralej: no, the new server at ci.centos.org, but the centos-master worker (now published at trunk/centos7-master-head) | 15:32 |
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| amoralej | ok, i got it now | 15:32 |
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| number80 | that looks good, please add action or info for the logs | 15:32 |
| rdogerrit | Eric Harney created openstack/taskflow-distgit: Remove dependency on python3-futures http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1829 | 15:32 |
| jpena | since the NFS share is quite slow, the whole process could take long (maybe a couple days), during the which the old worker will be stopped | 15:33 |
| jpena | just fyi | 15:33 |
| jpena | #action jpena to purge old commits from centos-master | 15:33 |
| number80 | thank you :) | 15:33 |
| number80 | #topic chair for next week meeting | 15:34 |
| number80 | who wants it? | 15:34 |
| jpena | I can take it, it's been a while since I last did it | 15:34 |
| number80 | #info jpena to chair next week meeting | 15:34 |
| number80 | #topic open floor | 15:34 |
| chandankumar | number80, Any action item from vanilla tempest discussion or we wait till dmellado returns? | 15:34 |
| number80 | chandankumar: except starting a discussion on the rdo-list and removing tempest as dependency in all -tests packages, none | 15:35 |
| chandankumar | i will do that | 15:35 |
| number80 | solution may be simple, but the topic is tricky, that's why we need all the input before touching the packages | 15:36 |
| amoralej | i think the only one is the designate-tempest-test package | 15:36 |
| number80 | or we'd just keep changing things and breaking everyone | 15:36 |
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| number80 | amoralej: yes, there may be some others though | 15:36 |
| number80 | not satisfactory, but we can't do better | 15:37 |
| number80 | any other topic someone wants to throw? | 15:37 |
| chandankumar | horizon-tempest also requires tempest-horizon https://github.com/openstack/tempest-horizon/blob/master/requirements.txt#L11 | 15:37 |
| chandankumar | *tempest | 15:37 |
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| chandankumar | tempest-horizon also requires tempest https://github.com/openstack/tempest-horizon/blob/master/requirements.txt#L11 | 15:38 |
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| chandankumar | number80, not from my side | 15:40 |
| number80 | ok | 15:41 |
| number80 | I'm closing soon | 15:42 |
| number80 | 3 | 15:42 |
| number80 | 2 | 15:42 |
| number80 | 1 | 15:42 |
| chandankumar | 0 | 15:42 |
| number80 | ignition | 15:42 |
| number80 | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| zodbot | Meeting ended Wed Aug 10 15:42:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . | 15:42 |
| zodbot | Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-08-10/rdo_meeting_-_2016-08-10.2016-08-10-15.02.html | 15:42 |
| zodbot | Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-08-10/rdo_meeting_-_2016-08-10.2016-08-10-15.02.txt | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10.2016-08-10-15.02.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10.2016-08-10-15.02.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_08_10.2016-08-10-15.02.log.html | 15:42 |
| rbowen | Thanks again, number80 | 15:42 |
| chandankumar | Thanks number80 for chairing the meeting | 15:42 |
| Jehane | number80: Houston, we got a problem | 15:42 |
| jpena | thanks number80 | 15:43 |
| number80 | Jehane: I'm fine, I don't live in Texas :) | 15:45 |
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| tosky | ups, I forgot about openstack-sahara-tests: I updated the card, I'm collecting the information | 15:54 |
| tosky | number80, chandankumar: ^^ just fyi | 15:54 |
| tosky | the trello card | 15:55 |
| number80 | saw that | 15:55 |
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| number80 | good luck with that | 15:58 |
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| dmsimard | I'm back | 16:06 |
| dmsimard | rbowen: thanks for doing these interviews, they're great | 16:07 |
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| sc` | a question came my way that for which i don't have an answer, so i seek the wisdom of #rdo - why does mariadb get built and included if c7 defaults to mariadb? i presume it's due to features, but would like a better answer than that | 16:10 |
| rbowen | dmsimard: Thanks. If you can convince a few people to volunteer, that would be awesome. :-) | 16:10 |
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| dmsimard | sc`: I believe RDO mirrored mariadb even before the upgrade to 10 | 16:17 |
| * dmsimard looks | 16:17 | |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow-distgit: Remove dependency on python3-futures http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1829 | 16:18 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged rdo-infra/puppet-dlrn: Use virtualenv --system-site-packages http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1803 | 16:18 |
| dmsimard | So Liberty RDO has 5.5.40 and Mitaka RDO has 10.1.12 | 16:19 |
| dmsimard | number80: do you know why we actually ship mariadb ? | 16:20 |
| rdogerrit | Ben Kero proposed config: nodepool: add experimental multinode support http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1816 | 16:20 |
| number80 | dmsimard: because of galera | 16:20 |
| dmsimard | number80: oh so CentOS ships mariadb but not galera ? | 16:21 |
| number80 | well, the version shipped in CentOS is too old for us, and since 10.1 galera is now part of mariadb | 16:21 |
| dmsimard | number80: it seems the version we had in <= liberty was at parity with CentOS, though | 16:21 |
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| sc` | that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw the packages, was that it was for galera | 16:22 |
| number80 | dmsimard: http://cbs.centos.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=434 ? | 16:22 |
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| number80 | AFAIK, CentOS ships 5.5 | 16:23 |
| sc` | so it's a rebuild and not a straight up mirror? | 16:23 |
| sc` | okay | 16:23 |
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| sc` | i got my facts straight now :) | 16:23 |
| number80 | sc`: it's mostly based on Fedora package | 16:23 |
| dmsimard | number80: I don't see 10.x in Liberty: http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-liberty/ | 16:23 |
| number80 | dmsimard: yes, it broke 3o | 16:24 |
| dmsimard | number80: so that's what I'm saying, 5.5 is at parity with liberty yet we still shipped mariadb | 16:24 |
| dmsimard | well, due to galera I guess | 16:24 |
| number80 | dmsimard: no, we didn't ship mariadb in liberty, just mariadb-galera | 16:25 |
| number80 | different package | 16:25 |
| dmsimard | number80: ohhhhhh you're right | 16:25 |
| * dmsimard needs more caffeine | 16:25 | |
| dmsimard | sc`: so while I have you /on the line/ | 16:25 |
| dmsimard | sc`: how's those integration tests of yours | 16:25 |
| sc` | dmsimard: getting there. frequently battling ENOTIME | 16:26 |
| dmsimard | number80: let's chat in Barcelona about packaging and tagging and stuff (cbs/buildlogs).. I think I'm starting to understand some things on my own (those xstatic packages helped) but I need some help. | 16:27 |
| sc` | lots of churn underway to get ubuntu 16.04 support and newton in | 16:27 |
| dmsimard | sc`: oh, you get ENOTIME errors too ? | 16:27 |
| sc` | which requires me to retool for openstackclient and identity v3 :D | 16:27 |
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| dmsimard | sc`: hah.. we're probably due for a RHEL/CentOS 7.3 sort of soon I think, from looking at https://access.redhat.com/articles/3078 | 16:29 |
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| dmsimard | RHEL8 looks a bit far away still ! | 16:29 |
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| dmsimard | Hah.. RHEL6 with good old trustworthy 2.6.32 .......... 2.6.32-642 | 16:30 |
| dmsimard | at that point it's hardly honest to call it 2.6.32 anymore | 16:30 |
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| sc` | dmsimard: centos/rhel point releases are actually pretty easy to adapt to for chef. ubuntu just breaks everything between releases :) | 16:46 |
| dmsimard | 16.04 introduces systemd, right ? or was that 14.04 ? I forget. | 16:47 |
| tosky | 16.04 iirc | 16:47 |
| dmsimard | switching from a mix of upstart and sysvinit has got to be fun. | 16:49 |
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| jayg | dmsimard: not sure if you would know, but earlier I tagged an opm for mitaka, and am still not seeing it @ http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-mitaka/report.html ? Is there a problem with dlrn currently? | 16:57 |
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| number80 | tagging? | 16:59 |
| number80 | I guess DLRN instance is still lagging | 16:59 |
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| jayg | number80: I did tag it, if that is what you mean | 17:03 |
| dmsimard | jayg: mitaka no longer continuously builds packages | 17:06 |
| dmsimard | jayg: it's triggered twice a day or something like that. | 17:06 |
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| dmsimard | number80: so I sort of read the whole meeting scrollback quickly.. I see a "let's vote" but no vote.. so, did we come to a conclusion ? | 17:07 |
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| number80 | dmsimard: discussion on the list, most stakeholders were not present | 17:11 |
| jayg | dmsimard: ah, ok, perfect, thanks! | 17:12 |
| dmsimard | number80: hm, don't see a thread yet. | 17:12 |
| number80 | yeah, chandan is working on sending a mail | 17:13 |
| dmsimard | ok | 17:13 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: that rdo-list mail you just sent is probably a good candidate for openstack-dev with [tripleo] tag | 17:19 |
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| rbowen | chandankumar: ping | 17:26 |
| zodbot | rbowen: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings | 17:26 |
| rbowen | thanks, zodbot | 17:26 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, pong | 17:26 |
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| rbowen | chandankumar: Did you ever receive the shirts I sent? | 17:26 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, nope | 17:26 |
| rbowen | Crap. | 17:26 |
| rbowen | I sent a second box, because you hadn't received the first one. I'm not sure what to do. :( | 17:27 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, But rupali had received the RDO banner for PyCon India 2016 | 17:27 |
| rbowen | Perhaps if I send a box from Brno instead of from the US it'll fare better? | 17:27 |
| rbowen | But I'm all out of the ones that I saved for you. :( | 17:28 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, i think so. | 17:28 |
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| chandankumar | rbowen, i will do a cross check tomorrow at office reception, may be they received and forgot to update me. | 17:29 |
| rbowen | I noticed that there was another chkumar listed in the office. Or is that also you? | 17:29 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, nope | 17:30 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, my email is chkumar@redhat.com | 17:30 |
| chandankumar | another is chakumar@redhat.com | 17:30 |
| chandankumar | and another one is chkumari@redhat.com | 17:30 |
| rbowen | ok, so those are both you. I was concerned that perhaps there was someone else with the same name. :-) | 17:30 |
| chandankumar | generally many people had sent mails to these other one guy and and girl, i need to get an alias soon. | 17:31 |
| chandankumar | rbowen, pm? | 17:31 |
| rbowen | Sure | 17:31 |
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| weshay | rook, hey.. | 17:48 |
| rook | heya | 17:48 |
| weshay | rook, is running on CentOS ok or do you need RHEL | 17:49 |
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| weshay | should have asked earlier | 17:49 |
| rook | weshay: CentOS should suffice -- I don't see why it wouldn't work. | 17:49 |
| weshay | k.. | 17:49 |
| rook | we run most of our stuff on CentOS | 17:49 |
| weshay | and the point of this is to gate and fail if there are performance issues found w/ browbeat right? | 17:50 |
| rook | Correct. | 17:50 |
| weshay | Ok.. so we'll figure out the criteria there, not critical atm. | 17:50 |
| rook | So either A) setup a SLA for services, or B) Trend the performance over time. | 17:50 |
| rook | I think B we do regardless | 17:50 |
| rook | but we need a ELK instance | 17:51 |
| weshay | dmsimard, rook was wondering if we have any infra we could use for ELK in RDO ci | 17:51 |
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| jkilpatr | I'm alive | 17:51 |
| dmsimard | weshay: software factory will eventually have an ELK implementation, they are working on it as we speak and there are already POCs out as I understand it | 17:52 |
| rook | he lived through his internship! | 17:52 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: would that be okay or you're looking for something standalone ? | 17:52 |
| rook | dmsimard as long as we can index results I don't see a issue. | 17:52 |
| weshay | dmsimard, I'm just the messenger, rook is looking for it.. some context | 17:52 |
| rook | create and query from ELK. | 17:52 |
| weshay | hewbrocca-afk, wants to see browbeat tests gating at the rdo level to catch issues w/ perf | 17:53 |
| dmsimard | rook: where are those logs coming from ? | 17:53 |
| jkilpatr | we just need a place to shove data essentially, lots of data | 17:53 |
| rook | dmsimard: logs? | 17:53 |
| rook | sorry, we are not using logstash | 17:53 |
| rook | dmsimard: we have a Elastic connector for Browbeat to index results from our Rally and Shaker runs | 17:53 |
| dmsimard | rook: ELK is Elasticsearch Logstash Kibana :P | 17:53 |
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| rook | dmsimard makes more sense then saying cna you give me a EK stack | 17:53 |
| rook | lol | 17:53 |
| rook | can you give me a eck stack | 17:53 |
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| dmsimard | haha | 17:54 |
| rook | oh, eck isn't here so that isn't funny | 17:54 |
| rook | :D | 17:54 |
| dmsimard | rook: is this something temporary/poc or something permanent ? | 17:54 |
| rook | anyhoo... if we have a EK instance :D -- we can trend performance./ | 17:54 |
| rook | preferably permanent | 17:54 |
| rook | we can obviously use elastidump and save off results. | 17:54 |
| dmsimard | rook: ok, and do you have an idea of the requirements (i.e, size, retention) | 17:55 |
| rook | dmsimard size, no idea -- when wfoster gets back maybe he can scope that... retention, we do not set a ttl on our data. | 17:55 |
| rook | it should be small enough that we don't have to throw away anything | 17:55 |
| jkilpatr | rook, if we're doing constant tests we should probably think about a ttl | 17:55 |
| rook | we do not want to throw away data IMHO. | 17:56 |
| rook | unless it is bs data. | 17:56 |
| rook | the idea is to trend performance over time. | 17:56 |
| dmsimard | rook: well, I mean, depending on the size of each run it might be unrealistic to keep data forever | 17:56 |
| rook | if we see some function in neutron is growing with each patch/release we should spend some time there. | 17:56 |
| dmsimard | rook: you can either tweak retention or the resolution of the data | 17:56 |
| rook | dmsimard: true. | 17:56 |
| rook | I think we could archive it... it is just txt, i am sure it can compress very easily. | 17:57 |
| dmsimard | rook: who's going to manage that server ? | 17:57 |
| rook | I think release to release would suffice. | 17:57 |
| rook | dmsimard: there was another thought to house this in trystack | 17:57 |
| rook | however, my trystack homies are not around... | 17:57 |
| rook | kambiz wfoster ^ | 17:57 |
| dmsimard | We have capacity, just trying to understand what you need :) | 17:58 |
| rook | I would like to be able to compare release to release. so maybe a years worth of data, so anything > 365 days, we can start phasing out. | 17:58 |
| dmsimard | rook: back to my question, who's going to manage that server ? | 17:58 |
| rook | all my indexes will be per-day. | 17:59 |
| rook | dmsimard wfoster & or kambiz | 17:59 |
| dmsimard | ok | 17:59 |
| rook | wfoster: more than likely. | 17:59 |
| rook | he has the most experience w/ EK | 17:59 |
| dmsimard | rook: can you formalize this in an email (with the infos we just discussed) ? I'll set you something up. I'll need SSH keys. | 18:00 |
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| rook | alright - weshay it isn't a hard req, we can get things going w/o the ek piece. | 18:01 |
| rook | dmsimard++ | 18:01 |
| zodbot | rook: Karma for dmsimard changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any | 18:01 |
| rook | thanks | 18:01 |
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| weshay | rook, aye | 18:01 |
| dmsimard | rook: try to come up with an initial disk size req that makes sense (and we can grow the volume as we outgrow that initial need as required) | 18:02 |
| rook | dmsimard: rgr. wfoster will take point on that and the management piece. thanks! | 18:04 |
| rook | weshay: I need to pick someone up from the airport... jkilpatr please field any questions weshay might have :D | 18:04 |
| rook | Here is to progress! | 18:04 |
| jkilpatr | rook, will do | 18:05 |
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| dmsimard | number80: wtf | 18:17 |
| dmsimard | number80: how can something be licensed under both public domain and MIT simultaneously ? | 18:18 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: so did you end up pinning the master promote job ? | 18:25 |
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| weshay | dmsimard, no.. I just made the suggestion | 18:27 |
| dmsimard | weshay: what's the ETA on that cinder issue fix ? | 18:27 |
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| dmsimard | I'm okay with pinning for the sake of promoting but ideally just for short periods.. if we pin for too long, we lose visibility on other upcoming issues | 18:28 |
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| dmsimard | alternatively, if we keep hold of a hash that we know should work once the cinder fix lands, we can run a promote job on that hash if no promotion occurs in the meantime | 18:30 |
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| jschlueter | dmsimard: where is the promote job again for master? /me failing to locate it | 18:31 |
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| dmsimard | I'm not someone who stresses (too much) around the frequency of promotions, we're not sitting idle and everyone is fixing problems identified by the pipeline and that's one of it's primary purposes :) | 18:31 |
| dmsimard | jschlueter: https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/promotion-pipeline/job/rdo-delorean-promote-master/ | 18:31 |
| jschlueter | dmsimard: thanks | 18:32 |
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| imcsk8 | /lastlog imcsk8 | 18:48 |
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| weshay | and we're back to failing jobs | 19:30 |
| weshay | :( | 19:30 |
| panda | :( | 19:30 |
| dmsimard | weshay: you need to get used to it, trunk breaks all the time. Thus is life :) | 19:35 |
| weshay | dmsimard, I'm used to it | 19:35 |
| weshay | dmsimard, it markmc who needs a build for osp | 19:35 |
| weshay | dmsimard, understand that if rdo does not promote.. qe is sitting on their hands waiting for a build | 19:36 |
| weshay | dmsimard, I think I have a way to get us out of this hell hole.. | 19:36 |
| dmsimard | weshay: I told you we could pin if that tripleo cinder fix was coming soon -- or alternatively kick a promote job on a "known good" hash once the cinder fix landed but you didn't get back to me regarding an ETA | 19:36 |
| weshay | dmsimard, will run it by you | 19:36 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: this is what one of the packstack job is failing on, likely to be the same thing for the other jobs | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | 2016-08-10 19:26:35.458 10624 ERROR nova ConfigFileValueError: Value for option vncserver_proxyclient_address is not valid: n59.ci.centos.org is not IPv4 or IPv6 address | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | Interestingly puppet-openstack doesn't have that problem so it's probably something in Packstack. | 19:38 |
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| dmsimard | probably broken by https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/d6ced6b25c5efd79c54ba3db6445648fa01e0f76 | 19:40 |
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| imcsk8 | dmsimard: is this the job? https://review.rdoproject.org/jenkins/job/gate-weirdo-dlrn-master-packstack-scenario002/ | 19:41 |
| dmsimard | imcsk8: no | 19:42 |
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| imcsk8 | dmsimard: which one is it to see if i can do something on the packstack side | 19:44 |
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| dmsimard | imcsk8: https://ci.centos.org/artifacts/rdo/weirdo-master-promote-packstack-scenario001/466/packstack/logs/nova/nova-compute.log.txt.gz | 19:48 |
| imcsk8 | thanks | 19:48 |
| dmsimard | imcsk8: I'm inquiring on #openstack-nova about this | 19:48 |
| dmsimard | imcsk8: they broke backwards compat without a release note | 19:48 |
| dmsimard | they changed an oslo setting from stropt to ipopt | 19:48 |
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| imcsk8 | damn!... | 19:52 |
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| EmilienM | dmsimard: does it break packstack only? | 19:53 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: puppet jobs seem to have passed | 19:54 |
| EmilienM | yeah we use IP | 19:54 |
| dmsimard | I'm filing a bug anyway | 19:54 |
| EmilienM | yep | 19:54 |
| dmsimard | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1611940 | 19:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1611940 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "vncserver_proxyclient_address changed from stropt to ipopt, beaking backwards compat without deprecation" [Undecided,New] | 19:55 |
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| dmsimard | imcsk8: so the problem is here: https://github.com/openstack/packstack/blob/e192b6f202fd1624b48e2cbfc56c7c9ec7842c8e/packstack/puppet/modules/packstack/manifests/nova/compute.pp#L36-L40 | 20:09 |
| dmsimard | imcsk8: this setting is expected to be an ip address, not a hostname: https://github.com/openstack/packstack/blob/e192b6f202fd1624b48e2cbfc56c7c9ec7842c8e/packstack/puppet/modules/packstack/manifests/nova/compute.pp#L55 | 20:10 |
| dmsimard | They're already partially reverting the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353710/ but we shouldn't let that get in the way of putting whatever the config expects | 20:10 |
| * dmsimard shrugs | 20:11 | |
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| imcsk8 | dmsimard: sorry i was checking other stuff. vnc works with ip addresses and hostnames so nova shouldn't restrict that | 20:41 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: o/ | 20:54 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: what do you think about putting puppet-openstack scenarios in the upstream tripleoci promotion pipeline ? | 20:55 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: I don't have much visibility in the periodic jobs that run to promote the tripleoci repository but perhaps even non-voting would be good insight | 20:56 |
| EmilienM | yeah, I mentionned the idea during the last tripleo meeting | 20:56 |
| dmsimard | i.e, puppet-openstack passed but tripleo didn't (or vice-versa) | 20:56 |
| dmsimard | weshay: ^ | 20:56 |
| weshay | perfect | 20:57 |
| weshay | EmilienM, we can have sshnaidm|afk and panda help watch it | 20:57 |
| EmilienM | it's a lot of work | 20:58 |
| EmilienM | just fyi | 20:58 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: what is ? | 20:58 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: watching CI ? | 20:58 |
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| EmilienM | creating tripleo environments to have same scenarios as puppet ci | 20:58 |
| EmilienM | I have currently zero bandwith for it | 20:58 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: I don't think you follow, I mean just doing something similar to what we're doing with upstream tempest except configure whatever delorean repository tripleoci is testing | 20:59 |
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| EmilienM | ah | 20:59 |
| EmilienM | sorry | 20:59 |
| EmilienM | sory sorry | 20:59 |
| EmilienM | mhh | 21:00 |
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| EmilienM | I don't see the value | 21:00 |
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| EmilienM | but my brain is currently multi tasking on different problems | 21:01 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: The value would be knowing that puppet-openstack works (or not) on that specific repository as a sanity check at a quick glance... i.e, is it a tripleo specific problem or something else | 21:01 |
| weshay | EmilienM, the value is tripleo doesn't update it's pin until puppet passes | 21:02 |
| EmilienM | if you look at https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 21:02 |
| EmilienM | puppet CI is always ahead of tripleo CI | 21:02 |
| EmilienM | but yeah, maybe it's useful to compare when one of both fail | 21:02 |
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| dmsimard | Puppet promotion will always be ahead of TripleO and TripleO will always be ahead of RDO - otherwise would surprise me. RDO uses both TripleO and Puppet (and Packstack!) as a means of promoting. | 21:05 |
| dmsimard | Packstack doesn't have it's own promotion process, it uses whatever is in current-passed-ci -- but we could have that too if we wanted to (although I don't have the bandwidth to maintain that) | 21:06 |
| EmilienM | so yeah, adding puppet would make sense | 21:06 |
| dmsimard | Well, especially considering the fact that TripleO ultimately consumes puppet. If Puppet is broken then there are good chances TripleO will be as well. I believe it would make pinpointing the problems a bit easier with a base for comparison. | 21:07 |
| EmilienM | actually no | 21:08 |
| EmilienM | puppet can be broken and tripleo fine | 21:08 |
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| EmilienM | regarding coverage, puppet cover much more things | 21:08 |
| EmilienM | ex: barbican | 21:08 |
| EmilienM | something can be broken in barbican, it will break puppet CI but not tripleo CI | 21:09 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: but we just agreed that puppet ci will always be ahead of tripleo ci :) | 21:09 |
| dmsimard | but I guess you're right | 21:09 |
| EmilienM | right! | 21:09 |
| EmilienM | I am not against your proposal | 21:10 |
| EmilienM | I'm just try to stay optimal | 21:10 |
| EmilienM | and take in consideration our resources | 21:10 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: the tripleo ci promote job runs once nightly | 21:10 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: it's not a huge stretch to run 3 more jobs once a day | 21:10 |
| EmilienM | right | 21:10 |
| dmsimard | who's the right person to ask ? derekh ? | 21:11 |
| EmilienM | tripleo ML | 21:11 |
| EmilienM | or tripleo irc | 21:11 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: right, I guess we can start a thread | 21:13 |
| dmsimard | weshay: do you want to spearehead that ? ^ | 21:13 |
| dmsimard | spearhead* | 21:13 |
| weshay | dmsimard, sure | 21:14 |
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| number80 | dmsimard: you can, technically, some countries don't allow you to put code in public domain | 21:29 |
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| dmsimard | I always have to lookup the syntax in bash to default a variable to something else. For some reason it can't get in my damn brain. /rant | 21:44 |
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| number80 | bash expansion, yeah unintuitive | 21:48 |
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| number80 | ${X:=Y} is easier to remember but it doesn't work well in some cases | 21:49 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: I was going to send a review to parameterize the get-hash job to be able to override the delorean.repo URL but I think I'll wait for trown to be back to hear what he thinks. | 21:54 |
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| dmsimard | weshay: it looks like we might have a shot at promotion soon when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353665/ lands | 22:03 |
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| EmilienM | dmsimard: I like how people approve patches when CI is not passing | 22:10 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: well eharney has a point | 22:10 |
| dmsimard | see his comment | 22:10 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: and you're also guilty of that sometimes as well :P | 22:11 |
| EmilienM | ahah nice comment | 22:11 |
| EmilienM | indeed | 22:11 |
| EmilienM | (I do the same on puppet patches) | 22:11 |
| EmilienM | "It's not 2012 any more, guys." | 22:11 |
| dmsimard | IT'S NOT 2012 ANYMORE GUYS | 22:11 |
| dmsimard | ??? | 22:11 |
| dmsimard | /thread | 22:11 |
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| EmilienM | eharney: believe me, you don't want to know how some OpenStack CIs are working, some projects don't have functional testing voting jobs | 22:12 |
| EmilienM | cinder is probably good but I saw some projects recently that didn't run tempest | 22:13 |
| eharney | :) | 22:14 |
| EmilienM | I'm glad reviewers are responsive though | 22:14 |
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| EmilienM | so I won't tell anyone I spent all my day for a workaround in puppet | 22:17 |
| EmilienM | (re- cinder) | 22:17 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: if anything, Cinder is probably one of the projects with the most CI jobs that runs on every review lol | 22:20 |
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| EmilienM | dmsimard: they have good third party CI right | 22:20 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: Well, vendors with a driver in Cinder have a vested interest in making sure their stuff doesn't break I guess | 22:21 |
| dmsimard | Same with Neutron | 22:21 |
| dmsimard | and god knows there's a lot of storage and network vendors :) | 22:21 |
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