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| rdogerrit | hguemar proposed openstack/heatclient-distgit: Added py2 and py3 subpackage http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1623 | 00:52 |
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| danpawlik | number80: Hello, if you can, please write comments on github page (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350974). I was off about one week and I forgot what I should change in spec file. I will be very grateful :) | 07:30 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1350974 in Package Review "Openstack python-watcherclient" [Unspecified,Assigned] - Assigned to karlthered | 07:30 |
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| number80 | EmilienM: I confirmed that new node.js build fixes Puppet modules CI > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347066/2 | 07:41 |
| number80 | danpawlik: ack | 07:42 |
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| Guest_84847 | Allah is doing | 07:45 |
| Guest_84847 | sun is not doing Allah is doing | 07:45 |
| Guest_84847 | moon is not doing Allah is doing | 07:45 |
| Guest_84847 | stars are not doing Allah is doing | 07:45 |
| Guest_84847 | planets are not doing Allah is doing | 07:46 |
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| Guest_84847 | galaxies are not doing Allah is doing | 07:46 |
| Guest_84847 | oceans are not doing Allah is doing | 07:46 |
| Guest_84847 | mountains are not doing Allah is doing | 07:46 |
| Guest_84847 | trees are not doing Allah is doing | 07:46 |
| Guest_84847 | mom is not doing Allah is doing | 07:47 |
| Guest_84847 | dad is not doing Allah is doing | 07:47 |
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| Guest_84847 | medicine is not doing Allah is doing | 07:48 |
| Guest_84847 | customers are not doing Allah is doing | 07:48 |
| Guest_84847 | you can not get a job without the permission of allan | 07:48 |
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| Guest_84847 | you can not get a job without the permission of allah | 07:49 |
| Guest_84847 | you can not get married without the permission of allah | 07:49 |
| Guest_84847 | nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah | 07:50 |
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| Guest_84847 | light is not doing Allah is doing | 07:50 |
| Guest_84847 | fan is not doing Allah is doing | 07:51 |
| Guest_84847 | businessess are not doing Allah is doing | 07:51 |
| Guest_84847 | america is not doing Allah is doing | 07:51 |
| Guest_84847 | fire can not burn without the permission of allah | 07:51 |
| Guest_84847 | knife can not cut without the permission of allah | 07:52 |
| Guest_84847 | rulers are not doing Allah is doing | 07:52 |
| Guest_84847 | governments are not doing Allah is doing | 07:52 |
| Guest_84847 | sleep is not doing Allah is doing | 07:53 |
| Guest_84847 | hunger is not doing Allah is doing | 07:53 |
| Guest_84847 | food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger | 07:53 |
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| Guest_84847 | water does not take away the thirst allah takes away the thirst | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | seeing is not doing Allah is doing | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | hearing is not doing Allah is doing | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | seasons are not doing Allah is doing | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | weather is not doing Allah is doing | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | humans are not doing Allah is doing | 07:54 |
| Guest_84847 | animals are not doing Allah is doing | 07:55 |
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| Guest_84847 | the best amongst you are those who learn and then teach quran | 07:56 |
| kashyap | Urgh | 07:56 |
| kashyap | I lost my ops, once apevec is around, probably he can kick this schmuck out. | 07:57 |
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| Guest_84847 | one letter read from book of Allah amounts to one good deed and Allah multiplies one good deed ten times | 07:57 |
| Guest_84847 | hearts get rusted as does iron with water to remove rust from heart recitation of Quran and rememberance of death | 07:58 |
| Guest_84847 | heart is likened to a mirror | 07:58 |
| Guest_84847 | when a person commits one sin a black dot sustains the heart | 07:59 |
| Guest_84847 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger | 08:00 |
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| Guest_84847 | read book http://www.fazaileamaal.com | 08:00 |
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| Guest_84847 | read book http://www.muntakhabahadith.com | 08:00 |
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| Guest_84847 | need spiritual teacher visit http://www.alhaadi.org.za | 08:01 |
| Guest_84847 | allah created the sky without any pillars | 08:01 |
| danpawlik | Guest_84847: shut up | 08:02 |
| Guest_84847 | allah makes the sun rise from the east and Allah makes the sun set in the west | 08:02 |
| Guest_84847 | allah makes the day into the night and Allah makes the night into the day | 08:02 |
| Guest_84847 | allah gives life and Allah gives death | 08:03 |
| Guest_84847 | all creation are useless,worthless,hopeless | 08:03 |
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| kashyap | danpawlik: It's a spam bot that is triggerred :-( Trying to get Freenode staff to kick him out, while someone w/ ops permissions come online | 08:10 |
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| danpawlik | kashyap: I hate bots/. | 08:10 |
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| danpawlik | kashyap: it's interesting because one time I want to send few messages in small part of time and I have receive message from freenode that it will kick me out if I will do one more time | 08:12 |
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| kashyap | danpawlik: I think you were logged in or something? | 08:14 |
| kashyap | I don't know this (non-)user has been spamming other Freenode channels I participate too | 08:14 |
| kashyap | s/know/know,/ | 08:14 |
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| danpawlik | ;/ | 08:15 |
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| imcsk8 | apevec: this is the spec file for glance that we're currently using in delorean right? https://github.com/rdo-packages/glance-distgit/blob/rpm-master/openstack-glance.spec#L214 | 08:41 |
| apevec | imcsk8, yes, that's used to build master/Newton trunk RPM | 08:42 |
| imcsk8 | i'm not sure why this is not happening in other palces than my test setups but the renaming of the glance-api-paste.ini to glance-api-dist-paste.ini always gives me an error | 08:43 |
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| apevec | imcsk8, hmm, something must be missing | 08:46 |
| apevec | imcsk8, do you have dist.conf too ? | 08:46 |
| apevec | they should point to dist-paste.ini | 08:46 |
| imcsk8 | apevec: let me check | 08:47 |
| apevec | imcsk8, which rpm NVRs are involved, openstack-glance, python-oslo-config in particular ? | 08:47 |
| imcsk8 | openstack-glance | 08:48 |
| apevec | also, isn't it like 3am your place?! :) | 08:48 |
| imcsk8 | yes it is | 08:48 |
| imcsk8 | buy i was working testing for some bugs and watching a larry wall presentation on perl 6 | 08:48 |
| apevec | in general, that's bad time of the day to do debugging :) | 08:49 |
| imcsk8 | also i lost a lot of time fixing my air conditioner in the afternoon | 08:49 |
| apevec | unless it's too hot during the day? | 08:49 |
| apevec | so that sounds like it was too hot during the day :) | 08:49 |
| imcsk8 | it's really hot i actually had to fix the air conditioner because i was getting sleepy and couldn't concentrate. we're between 40-45 during the day | 08:50 |
| apevec | ouch | 08:50 |
| apevec | and I complain to 28degC | 08:50 |
| imcsk8 | hahaha that's cool right now in my hometown | 08:51 |
| imcsk8 | this at 9:00 we were 31 degrees | 08:51 |
| imcsk8 | (this morning) or yesterdays morning to be more accurate | 08:51 |
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| imcsk8 | anyway it's been a while since i'm having this problem. BTW i don't have a dist.conf file | 08:52 |
| imcsk8 | i like to leave packstack tests running in the night so when i wake up i can check them out, but with this problem i have to copy the file manually | 08:53 |
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| social | O,o reading backlog today seems like spiritual experience | 08:56 |
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| imcsk8 | see you tomorrow guys | 09:00 |
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| apevec | social, you mean conf files gone missing like a ghost? :) | 09:01 |
| social | apevec: conf files missing and spam bot talking about bot >.> | 09:01 |
| apevec | imcsk8|zZz, godd night, BTW dist.confg is one line above the where you linked on github | 09:01 |
| social | *god | 09:01 |
| imcsk8|zZz | apevec: yeah i have it: /usr/share/glance/glance-api-dist.conf | 09:03 |
| imcsk8|zZz | but it appears to be ignored | 09:04 |
| apevec | imcsk8|zZz, then your python-oslo-config is not right, which exact NVR is it? | 09:05 |
| apevec | there's non-upstream patch in our RPM to make it look into /usr/share/ | 09:05 |
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| apevec | social, aha, now I see it in eavesdrop, silly bot, looks like kashyap took care of it | 09:05 |
| apevec | I guess we could configure the channel to not allow Guest* ? | 09:07 |
| imcsk8|zZz | apevec: python2-oslo-config 3.13.1 | 09:07 |
| apevec | imcsk8|zZz, full NVR | 09:08 |
| apevec | Release: part too | 09:08 |
| apevec | I'd like to trace it back, to see if that patch is applied or not | 09:08 |
| imcsk8|zZz | apevec: i know what my problem is, my script is installing oslo.config (3.13.0) | 09:09 |
| apevec | pip install? | 09:09 |
| imcsk8|zZz | i don't remember why but i have this: easy_install oslo.privsep | 09:10 |
| imcsk8|zZz | i'll remove that and check if my problem persists | 09:10 |
| apevec | ah maybe before that was package | 09:10 |
| apevec | just remove it | 09:10 |
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| apevec | this pulls oslo.config from pypi | 09:10 |
| apevec | and overwrites RPM | 09:10 |
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| imcsk8|zZz | yeah i deleted that from my deploy script | 09:11 |
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| imcsk8|zZz | i forgot to delete that from previous tests | 09:12 |
| imcsk8|zZz | now i can go to sleep | 09:12 |
| imcsk8|zZz | :) | 09:12 |
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| unxiuted | hi all | 09:27 |
| unxiuted | can I ask here a question related to packstack mitaka install and mistral usage? | 09:29 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged rdoinfo: Initial pin for Oslo and OpenStack clients http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1730 | 09:34 |
| ihrachys | apevec: number80: social: wanted to check with you. are there any blockers from neutron side for RDO master right now? | 09:38 |
| social | ihrachys: the issue we had can be reproduced only when there is high cpu load, I haven't managed to reproduce it since yesterday evening | 09:40 |
| ihrachys | social: the one with native ovsdb right? other than that, all clear? | 09:41 |
| social | yes | 09:41 |
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| zigo | number80: Please approve my patch: https://review.openstack.org/347724 | 09:43 |
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| zigo | (and comment that as RDO maintainer, you want this to happen) | 09:44 |
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| number80 | zigo: I'll give it a look | 09:45 |
| zigo | number80: FYI, I tried opening a bug about it before, but it didn't work. | 09:45 |
| zigo | Packaging the last version, I got bored, and did that patch upstream. | 09:45 |
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| zigo | We also need to fix using external resources. | 09:45 |
| zigo | Like https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans:300,400,700 | 09:45 |
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| zigo | Or https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.2.0/css/font-awesome.min.css | 09:46 |
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| number80 | Javascript is an ancient swahili word that means "I want to make distro packagers life a living hell :)" | 09:48 |
| mrunge | +1 number80 | 09:50 |
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| number80 | while reviewing tripleo-ui, i found out that some bundled libs were bundling colocated libs and some of them were doing it too | 09:51 |
| mrunge | yes! | 09:52 |
| number80 | and in one case, I confirmed, it was different versions | 09:52 |
| number80 | security jobs will have a bright future with javascript | 09:53 |
| mrunge | not to forget golang | 09:53 |
| number80 | well, I have hope that they will switch to gcc for production code one day | 09:53 |
| number80 | even google uses gcc-go and shared libs in some projects | 09:53 |
| mrunge | not using static linking would help | 09:54 |
| mrunge | encouraging people to use "released" software rather than pulling commits from github directly would help too | 09:54 |
| number80 | +2 | 09:54 |
| number80 | mrunge++ | 09:55 |
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| apevec | mrunge, number80 - but but isn't "git push" a hipster release? | 10:30 |
| number80 | \o/ | 10:31 |
| hewbrocca | git push | twitter | 10:37 |
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| apevec | reminder: add agenda topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 10:46 |
| apevec | I've added newton2 testday re-run proposal | 10:47 |
| apevec | (now that we have current-passed-ci since yesterday) | 10:47 |
| hewbrocca | \o/ | 10:50 |
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| jschlueter | apevec: was yesterday's manually promoted? | 11:14 |
| * jschlueter trying to find rdo-trunk-deps.txt to go along with promoted RDO trunk newton/current-passed-ci repo | 11:15 | |
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| apevec | jschlueter, yes, but deps should be included in artifacts by default... | 11:17 |
| apevec | lemme check | 11:17 |
| jschlueter | rdo-trunk-deps.txt I have to pull from a jenkins job | 11:17 |
| apevec | ah yes | 11:17 |
| jschlueter | https://trello.com/c/ElpnAntE/163-dlrn-record-full-repository-state the second half of integrating this with anything in RDO was not done so I have to maintain this outside of RDO infra and will have to ping when things break | 11:19 |
| apevec | jschlueter, this was the job https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/promotion-pipeline/job/rdo-delorean-promote-master/538/ | 11:20 |
| jschlueter | apevec: thanks | 11:20 |
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| panda | Error unpacking rpm package python-requests-2.10.0-1.el7.noarch | 11:41 |
| panda | error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/packages/chardet | 11:41 |
| mrunge | requests bundles chardet? | 11:41 |
| mrunge | tsss | 11:41 |
| mrunge | panda, could you please fetch the package again= | 11:41 |
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| apevec | panda, mrunge - that's indication of pip install/rpm mixup | 11:45 |
| panda | mrunge: this happened twice ... got the error, re-run after 10 minutes, got the error again | 11:45 |
| apevec | panda, you had pip installed requests ? | 11:45 |
| mrunge | use of pip should be forbidden | 11:45 |
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| apevec | mrunge, just not mixed w/ RPMs | 11:46 |
| apevec | pip install in venv, not system wide, ever | 11:46 |
| mrunge | or pip should be patched to install packages from rpms | 11:46 |
| panda | apevec: no, this happens after trying to install tripleo client from package | 11:46 |
| apevec | mrunge, that's separate discussion and it is in progress | 11:46 |
| apevec | panda, but is it a clean minimal OS image? | 11:46 |
| panda | apevec: but I'm also using tripleo repo .. | 11:46 |
| apevec | panda, which exact repos are enabled? | 11:47 |
| panda | delorean-openstack-cinder-53ac6152735cb1353a3fe0eb91c97a02f541f167 delorean-openstack-ironic-inspector-823f6d26a20a1d00b8b0ca788a2d45279189ab59 | 11:47 |
| apevec | and where is the base image coming from? Which job is that? | 11:47 |
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| panda | apevec: I'm using the tripleo undecloud/jenkins slave base image from yesterday | 11:48 |
| apevec | what is 'jenkins slave base image' ? | 11:49 |
| panda | I also have newton testing repo enabled | 11:49 |
| panda | apevec: it's the base image tripleo ci is using for its periodic jobs | 11:49 |
| apevec | it's not the repo issue, it's base image which has something pre-installed | 11:49 |
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| panda | apevec: ok, I'll look at what is preinstalled then, thanks. | 11:50 |
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| apevec | check rpm -qf /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/packages/chardet before you run yum, it will be unowned by rpm i.e. pip-installed | 11:51 |
| apevec | in RPM that's a symlink (python-requests RPM is unbundling and using python-chardet RPM) | 11:52 |
| apevec | actually, rpm -qf on files in chardet folder | 11:53 |
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| number80 | mrunge: if we let requests maintainers, they'd even bundle the kernel in requests ... | 11:55 |
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| number80 | they already enforces us to ship the exact same version of urllib3 as the one embedded in requests | 11:55 |
| number80 | (or they'd ask us to stop distributing requests) | 11:55 |
| apevec | number80, I think that's a fine compromise | 11:56 |
| number80 | apevec: well, if everyone did that, it would be impossible | 11:57 |
| apevec | afaict they work closely with urllib3 so that's fine to keep them in sync | 11:58 |
| number80 | yup, it works but some people uses independently urllib3 | 11:58 |
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| number80 | they should just merge projects IMHO | 12:00 |
| number80 | I had hard times upstream, explaining that we can't bump independently urllib3 from requests | 12:01 |
| number80 | *tempest | 12:01 |
| number80 | and bumping requests can break other projects | 12:01 |
| apevec | those other projects should be fixed to work with latest requests | 12:02 |
| apevec | anyway, separate issue from pip/rpm mix that panda is hitting | 12:02 |
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| rdogerrit | Alan Pevec proposed rdoinfo: Add openstack-tripleo-ui http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1733 | 12:16 |
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| rdogerrit | Alan Pevec proposed rdoinfo: Add openstack-tripleo-ui http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1733 | 12:16 |
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| panda | apevec: you were right: already present, unowned | 12:18 |
| rdogerrit | Honza Pokorny proposed rdoinfo: Add openstack-tripleo-ui http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1733 | 12:18 |
| apevec | panda, is that upstream DIB created image? They pre-install requests iirc | 12:19 |
| rdogerrit | Honza Pokorny proposed rdoinfo: Add openstack-tripleo-ui http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1733 | 12:20 |
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| weshay | apevec, pabelanger would be able to answer that | 12:21 |
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| panda | apevec: it is, but they don't preinstall tripleo client ... which requires requests from package ... I don't know how they do it, I'll find out. | 12:23 |
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| pabelanger | weshay: apevec: answer which? | 12:30 |
| weshay | pabelanger, how the nodepool images are built | 12:31 |
| tosky | apevec: ehm... that package :) | 12:31 |
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| pabelanger | weshay: apevec: We use diskimage-builder upstream which builds images once a day and uploads them. | 12:31 |
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| rdogerrit | Frederic Lepied created DLRN: display which git branch is being processed http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734 | 13:01 |
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| rdogerrit | Frederic Lepied created DLRN: Fix error when data dir doesn't exist and nothing is built http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735 | 13:12 |
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| jjoyce | number80: Anything I can do to help with an aodh 2.0.3 build? | 13:16 |
| number80 | jjoyce: it's just stuck on my workstation, between other tasks but it's ready | 13:16 |
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| jjoyce | number80: awesome | 13:17 |
| jjoyce | number80++ | 13:17 |
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| number80 | no wonder, I can be a grumpy smurf with so many // tasks :) | 13:19 |
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| rdogerrit | Honza Pokorny proposed rdoinfo: Add openstack-tripleo-ui http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1733 | 13:23 |
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| dmsimard | rbowen: so we got a promotion, should we do a test day this week or early next week maybe ? | 13:27 |
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| rbowen | dmsimard: I asked that on rdo-list, and I interpreted the consensus as, no, let's just wait for N3 | 13:28 |
| dmsimard | I understood that as yes, N3 is far away | 13:29 |
| * dmsimard re-reads | 13:29 | |
| rbowen | You'r right. | 13:29 |
| rbowen | I ... clearly misread. | 13:29 |
| rbowen | Wait until next promotion and schedule a test day the next week. | 13:29 |
| rbowen | M3 is too far away and we have little visibility for now to set a date in stone. | 13:29 |
| dmsimard | happens to the best of us :) | 13:29 |
| rbowen | So ... August 4, 5? | 13:29 |
| trown | now we have visiblility into when it will be promoted :) | 13:29 |
| trown | hindsight being 20/20 and all | 13:30 |
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| dmsimard | 4, 5 is a bit far away -- but it's probably too last minute to schedule something tomorrow/friday | 13:30 |
| dmsimard | trown is going away on "vacation" next week I think | 13:30 |
| rbowen | I have an all-day event tomorrow at University of Kentucky. OpenStack 6th Birthday thingy. | 13:31 |
| trown | lol, not vacation, but ya I will be out the next 4 weeks on paternity leave | 13:31 |
| dmsimard | trown: hence the double quotes | 13:31 |
| trown | I know :P | 13:32 |
| dmsimard | rbowen: you know what, let's put it on today's agenda and decide there | 13:32 |
| rbowen | +1 | 13:32 |
| dmsimard | someone beat me to it, it's already there | 13:32 |
| apevec | trown, DTO - Diaper Time On ? | 13:32 |
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| dmsimard | trown: aren't those few first diapers surprising if you've never seen those before ? :p | 13:33 |
| trown | lol, it is my second | 13:33 |
| dmsimard | ohhh | 13:34 |
| trown | and I do quite a bit of diaper changing now :) | 13:34 |
| social | trown: did you hit the neutron issue since yesterday? | 13:34 |
| trown | social: no we are a bit blind because there is some earlier real issue in CI, havent dug into it yet | 13:35 |
| trown | 'ClientManager' object has no attribute '_url' when registering nodes | 13:35 |
| apevec | trown, get-hash is now taking consistent ? | 13:35 |
| trown | apevec: ya, I switched it back after we promoted | 13:36 |
| apevec | trown, yeah, just wanted to say that we're back to OSC/clients issue | 13:36 |
| trown | pinche | 13:36 |
| apevec | it's in mistralclient as slagle said | 13:36 |
| apevec | but I'm not sure if anyone is working on it | 13:36 |
| apevec | on mistral side | 13:36 |
| social | trown: I keep failing to hit the issue now so I think it's something like, only 3 days before full moon in middle of summer thing | 13:37 |
| trown | social: ya I could never reproduce it locally too | 13:37 |
| apevec | social, run some cpuhog process then try again :) | 13:37 |
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| social | apevec: yesterday I was watching movie while running tripleo install in nested virt, only thing I got was from time to time characters repeating last words for half a minute, just like broken vinil | 13:38 |
| social | *vinyl | 13:38 |
| trown | apevec: oh nice looks like there is patch up for it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347354/ | 13:39 |
| apevec | social, so that was vice versa :) tripleo killing your video | 13:39 |
| apevec | trown, ok, let's make that numbered issue in the etherpad | 13:40 |
| trown | apevec: that is how I found the patch :) | 13:40 |
| trown | our etherpad is working | 13:40 |
| apevec | ah, somebody update that cool | 13:40 |
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| sc` | dmsimard: chef is still alive! i have patches to bring newton in to master, but integration is a mess | 13:49 |
| sc` | it converges, but tempest is unhappy | 13:50 |
| sc` | once all of the patches land, i'll refocus on the integration builds | 13:51 |
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| apevec | review.o.o 503 isitjustme? | 13:52 |
| apevec | justme | 13:53 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is being restarted now to relieve performance degradation | 13:53 | |
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| sc` | apevec: gerrit went in a gc death spiral and had to be restarted. it wasn't just you | 13:55 |
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| EmilienM | dmsimard: thanks for your reply on the swift thing, blaming puppet-swift was not a good idea (cc number80), since package broke | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | but we all know number80 likes to blame puppet :) | 14:03 |
| dmsimard | sc`: np, my plate is full right now | 14:04 |
| dmsimard | sc`: lots of cool things coming for RDO though :p | 14:04 |
| sc` | :D | 14:05 |
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| trown | blaming is a bad idea in general... we all try to make RDO better | 14:08 |
| dmsimard | trown: I think it's better to retrospect and just learn things out of this | 14:09 |
| dmsimard | and things were learnt indeed | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | you gave the definition of agile I think :P | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | so much green https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 14:10 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: agile != learn from your mistakes | 14:10 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: and when you do a mistake, don't do the same mistake twice | 14:10 |
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| dmsimard | I'm not going to turn the knife in the wound or anything but I explained this very exact scenario in my blog post 2 weeks back https://dmsimard.com/2016/07/13/improving-rdo-packaging-testing-coverage/ | 14:11 |
| dmsimard | "The reality is that while the packages may build successfully, they could actually be broken. We could potentially carry bad systemd unit files, bad config, missing runtime dependencies, etc." | 14:12 |
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| number80 | Well, I'm tired since nobody get the point that we have to ship packages with huge technical debt since we can never change puppet modules | 14:14 |
| number80 | that was the point | 14:14 |
| slagle | apevec: trown : i updated the etherpad. thrash is working on it | 14:15 |
| number80 | or make impossible some changes like splitting services | 14:15 |
| dmsimard | number80: we can change the puppet modules just like we can change the installers -- it's a matter of not shovelling backwards incompatible changes downstream (just like upstream does) | 14:15 |
| trown | slagle: ya saw that, thanks! | 14:16 |
| dmsimard | let's be a good upstream and not shovel backwards incompat changes | 14:16 |
| number80 | dmsimard: in that case, assuming openstack-swift needs to be installing was wrong | 14:16 |
| number80 | it had nothing useful | 14:16 |
| dmsimard | number80: but openstack-swift has always existed and now suddenly it does not | 14:16 |
| dmsimard | number80: so not only we're breaking puppet but we're breaking everyone who uses that package and not necessarily just puppet users | 14:16 |
| number80 | dmsimard: it was properly replace and obsoleted | 14:16 |
| dmsimard | there are other means of installing openstack | 14:16 |
| dmsimard | yum install openstack-swift no longer worked | 14:17 |
| dmsimard | before it worked | 14:17 |
| number80 | no it worked | 14:17 |
| number80 | yum knows about virtual provides | 14:17 |
| number80 | I agree that requires a change in puppet-swift | 14:17 |
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| number80 | but we all jump on introducing hacks into packaging which is wrong | 14:17 |
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| dmsimard | so it was a allow_virtual thing again then ? | 14:18 |
| dmsimard | I thought we no longer had that issue | 14:18 |
| number80 | yeah | 14:18 |
| number80 | all i want is some window in the cycle to allow cleaning up the crufts | 14:19 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: could that allow_virtual thing be added to the puppet-openstacklib new defaults class ? | 14:20 |
| dmsimard | wait that's already there | 14:21 |
| dmsimard | https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstacklib/blob/master/manifests/defaults.pp | 14:21 |
| dmsimard | so how did we hit that again, then ? openstacklib::defaults is included in swift::params | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | in mitaka? | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure chem backported it | 14:22 |
| dmsimard | no, number80 said we were hitting that in newton | 14:22 |
| dmsimard | I'll try and find logs, the log line we have in the etherpad isn't explicit | 14:22 |
| dmsimard | All it says is "[PKG] yum -d 0 -e 0 -y install openstack-swift' returned 1: [ apevec ] [fixed]" | 14:22 |
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| rdogerrit | Jakub Ruzicka created rdopkg: Update to 0.38 http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1736 | 14:25 |
| apevec | dmsimard, that was before provides was added | 14:25 |
| apevec | between Pete's original change and number80's followup fix | 14:25 |
| dmsimard | apevec: yeah but number80 says the obsoletes should've been enough | 14:26 |
| apevec | then we had one more followup for upgrades on trunk | 14:26 |
| apevec | dmsimard, it would for upgrades | 14:26 |
| number80 | well, trunk upgrades has never been supported | 14:26 |
| dmsimard | apevec: supporting trunk to trunk upgrades is silly | 14:26 |
| dmsimard | apevec: I'm all for supporting stable to trunk | 14:26 |
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| apevec | but not for yum install openstack-swift backward compat | 14:26 |
| dmsimard | but trunk to trunk.. | 14:26 |
| apevec | we'll need it for real CD | 14:27 |
| rdogerrit | Merged rdopkg: Update to 0.38 http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1736 | 14:27 |
| apevec | anyway, this is all fixed now, we just need better CI coverage on distgit, that's the lesson learned | 14:27 |
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| number80 | But well, assuming that packages will never change is not possible | 14:29 |
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| number80 | we don't always get it right the first time, we can't prevent bad changes to be merged etc.. | 14:29 |
| apevec | number80, yes, but we can provide enough backward compat | 14:29 |
| number80 | for glance, it was not possible | 14:30 |
| number80 | from RPM PoV, it was perfectly compatible | 14:30 |
| number80 | but well, I'm one voice | 14:31 |
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| dmsimard | number80: we can prevent bad changes to be merged | 14:31 |
| dmsimard | that's the whole point of doing in-gate CI | 14:31 |
| number80 | if everyone disagree with ne, that means I'm wrong | 14:31 |
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| number80 | dmsimard: CI can't test bad packaging changes like incorrect splitting | 14:32 |
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| number80 | for instance | 14:32 |
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| dmsimard | Why not ? | 14:32 |
| number80 | upstream foo project add a foo-cache service | 14:32 |
| number80 | it breaks CI as there's a new binary | 14:33 |
| dmsimard | (and it'd probably break dlrn too but go on) | 14:33 |
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| number80 | to fix CI, someone just push it to the foo-register package | 14:33 |
| number80 | puppet-foo notice that and install foo-register wherever it needs food-cache | 14:33 |
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| number80 | results: we are compelled to bundle foo-cache and foo-register forever | 14:34 |
| dmsimard | ok, I kind of see where you're going | 14:34 |
| number80 | the problem is the tight coupling | 14:34 |
| number80 | that's also *my* fault as I don't know enough puppet to fix it in puppet-foo | 14:35 |
| dmsimard | Reminder: Meeting at 15:00UTC (<30 minutes from now), agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 14:35 |
| number80 | and when I get requests to do the split or help reducing installation size churn, well, it's mission impossible in that condition | 14:36 |
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| dmsimard | number80: so 1) I think with the planned CI we're going to bump from 0% coverage to ~60% so there's that, it's not going to catch everything but it'll catch most of it | 14:37 |
| dmsimard | 2) We're going to be in the exact same position as upstream re: backwards incompat changes | 14:37 |
| dmsimard | re #2: Are we going to block ourselves from moving forward because downstream consumers (puppet, installers) are failing a particular change | 14:37 |
| dmsimard | it's the same logic that was mentioned for example when telemetry added cotyledon, it was added upstream before it was packaged in RDO so it broke RDO. | 14:38 |
| number80 | well, that's why I prefer we have faster reviews | 14:38 |
| jruzicka | number80, I'd like to get this done today: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1275/5 | 14:38 |
| number80 | as soon as you ship package, you must case about compat | 14:38 |
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| number80 | jruzicka: we can't the blocker is that the spec file parsing code requires a module that is not installable by pip | 14:39 |
| jruzicka | oh, the job can't install RPM? | 14:39 |
| number80 | option 3. /me getting more vacations | 14:39 |
| dmsimard | number80: I don't think there is a right answer | 14:40 |
| dmsimard | number80: either we do like upstream and screw everyone up by cleaning stuff up and not caring about backwards compat .. or we don't | 14:40 |
| dmsimard | we could have deprecation periods or something, I don't know | 14:41 |
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| number80 | I'm sorry that people thought I was saying that "puppet folks are screwing" | 14:41 |
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| dmsimard | ? | 14:42 |
| number80 | packaging screw up too, but i'd like some space to clean up that shit | 14:42 |
| number80 | because there's no end at it | 14:42 |
| dmsimard | It's fine to clean stuff, can we do it in a way that is backwards-compatible for a defined deprecation period ? | 14:43 |
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| dmsimard | I have no clue what I'm talking about by the way, I'm not a packager -- asking genuine questions here :) | 14:43 |
| number80 | the problem is that backward compatible means two things: b-c for RPM, b-c for puppet | 14:44 |
| number80 | that's not exactlythe same thing | 14:44 |
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| number80 | well, I'm putting back that topic in the closet for a while | 14:45 |
| social | trown: even with load 30+ I don't hit it anymore :( | 14:45 |
| dmsimard | number80, apevec: fyi we got better RCIP capacity for nodepool. Double the cores and double the VMs (to help us ramp up faster integration testing) | 14:46 |
| trown | social: well at least we have CI results to prove it did happen at some point :P | 14:46 |
| dmsimard | I'm going to adjust nodepool weighting so that more jobs run on rcipo | 14:47 |
| trown | social: otherwise people might say you are crazy | 14:47 |
| social | trown: I'm crazy anyway | 14:47 |
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| jruzicka | number80, dmsimard given upstream handling of backward compat and our resources, I think we must prefer clean stuff over backward compat | 14:49 |
| apevec | depends, we can't just break it w/o any concerns | 14:50 |
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| apevec | _some_ changes might be backward compat, but then we'll work w/ our consumer (puppet etc) to fix them in advance | 14:50 |
| jruzicka | my feeling is the stuff always breaks all over the place and that's the price for rapid development | 14:51 |
| apevec | that's why we need moar CI to warn us | 14:51 |
| number80 | jruzicka: I'll just ignore that topic for a moment as it'll just end up getting me more depressed over it | 14:51 |
| rbowen | RDO meeting in 10 -- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 14:51 |
| apevec | jruzicka, breaking all over the place shouldn't be the norm | 14:51 |
| apevec | we can do better | 14:51 |
| number80 | s/can/must/ | 14:52 |
| jruzicka | in my unpopular opinion, it IS the norm in OpenStack | 14:52 |
| apevec | but yeah, let's table this until we have an concrete example at hand | 14:52 |
| jruzicka | I don't se how we as packagers can change that | 14:52 |
| apevec | jruzicka, moar CI | 14:52 |
| apevec | thing is that upstream doesn't have good coverage, that's where we will help | 14:53 |
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| jruzicka | fair enough, CI does help. | 14:53 |
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| apevec | and now.. review.r.o dead orjustme? | 14:54 |
| jruzicka | apevec, me too | 14:54 |
| apevec | dmsimard, ^ will sensu detectet it? | 14:55 |
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| dmsimard | apevec: I'm reloading the config should be up soob | 14:55 |
| dmsimard | soon* | 14:55 |
| apevec | ah | 14:56 |
| dmsimard | chandankumar: you going to chair, right ? | 14:57 |
| chandankumar | dmsimard, yes | 14:57 |
| dmsimard | apevec: fyi storage on internal dlrn again | 14:58 |
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| jjoyce | number80++ | 14:59 |
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| chandankumar | #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-07-27 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 27 15:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| zodbot | Meeting started Wed Jul 27 15:01:06 2016 UTC. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:01 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2016-07-27' | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2016_07_27' | 15:01 |
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| dmsimard | silence you | 15:01 |
| chandankumar | #topic Roll Call | 15:01 |
| trown | o/ | 15:01 |
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| jschlueter | o/ | 15:01 |
| dmsimard | \o | 15:01 |
| mengxd | o/ | 15:01 |
| social | o/ | 15:01 |
| rbowen | o/ | 15:01 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 15:01 |
| imcsk8 | \o/ | 15:01 |
| apevec | o/ | 15:01 |
| chandankumar | #chair trown dmsimard jschlueter mengxd social richm coolsvap imcsk8 apevec | 15:02 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:02 |
| jjoyce | o/ | 15:02 |
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| chandankumar | #chair jjoyce | 15:02 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:02 |
| chandankumar | So starting with first topic | 15:02 |
| flepied | o/ | 15:03 |
| adarazs | o/ | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | #topic Newton2 testday re-run on July 28-29 ? | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | #chair flepied adarazs | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:03 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd richm social trown | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | apevec, please go ahead | 15:03 |
| number80 | o. | 15:03 |
| apevec | we have passed CI since yesterday, so let's do testday re-run asap | 15:03 |
| apevec | i.e. this week | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | #chair number80 | 15:03 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown | 15:03 |
| number80 | too short notice maybe? | 15:03 |
| social | tuesday? | 15:03 |
| apevec | yeah, but delying is not better | 15:03 |
| number80 | next week would still leave one month between M2 test day and M3 | 15:04 |
| weshay | o/ | 15:04 |
| chandankumar | #chair weshay | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown weshay | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown weshay | 15:04 |
| number80 | yeah, no more delay | 15:04 |
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| dmsimard | I especially want to do this week because after that trown is away | 15:04 |
| apevec | so early next week might be a compromise | 15:04 |
| apevec | ah | 15:04 |
| dmsimard | and trown is important for test days :) | 15:04 |
| trown | aww | 15:04 |
| * dmsimard hugs | 15:04 | |
| rbowen | ok. | 15:04 |
| social | friday? | 15:05 |
| apevec | so let's start this week but welcome any testers next week | 15:05 |
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| dmsimard | We could maybe compromise on *one* day, friday | 15:05 |
| apevec | I mean, that's given all the time :) | 15:05 |
| dmsimard | instead of the usual two | 15:05 |
| apevec | Friday is off for some parts of the world | 15:05 |
| apevec | that's why we traditional had two days | 15:05 |
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| apevec | to cover all TZs and cultures | 15:06 |
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| apevec | so let's just start tomorrow | 15:07 |
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| Duck | quack | 15:07 |
| rbowen | It's short notice, but I think we can get word out. | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | yeah let's all help getting the word out | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | we can do it ;) | 15:07 |
| apevec | rbowen, short notice in twitter age is 1s :) | 15:07 |
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| rbowen | Sure, but even there, timezones. | 15:08 |
| rbowen | Our aussie friends are already in bed. | 15:08 |
| apevec | rbowen, hence day1/day2 | 15:08 |
| rbowen | yep | 15:08 |
| dmsimard | let's do a formal vote for this week vs next week ? | 15:08 |
| rbowen | Sure. | 15:08 |
| chandankumar | thisweek | 15:08 |
| apevec | this | 15:08 |
| rbowen | this | 15:08 |
| adarazs | this | 15:08 |
| dmsimard | this week | 15:08 |
| trown | this week | 15:08 |
| flepied | this | 15:08 |
| number80 | next | 15:08 |
| coolsvap | i am fine with either | 15:09 |
| trown | number80 is feeling contrary today :P | 15:09 |
| jschlueter | either | 15:09 |
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| number80 | trown: I'm consistent with myself even it means I'm minority :) | 15:09 |
| chandankumar | 7-thisweek, 1-next week, 2-either | 15:09 |
| dmsimard | democracy :D | 15:09 |
| trown | number80: as you shoud be :) | 15:09 |
| dmsimard | not like that silly USA democracy (just kidding) | 15:10 |
| rbowen | How are the superdelegates voting on this issue? | 15:10 |
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| Duck | #chair duck | 15:10 |
| apevec | dmsimard, speaking of that, we need better bot-spam protection here, but we'll take that offline | 15:10 |
| chandankumar | #chair Duck | 15:10 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown weshay | 15:10 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter mengxd number80 richm social trown weshay | 15:10 |
| apevec | ok, let's record decision here? | 15:10 |
| Duck | thanks | 15:10 |
| chandankumar | action items? | 15:11 |
| dmsimard | #agreed test days will occur this week July 28th and 29th | 15:11 |
| dmsimard | right ? | 15:11 |
| apevec | yep | 15:11 |
| number80 | *nods* | 15:11 |
| * jschlueter nods | 15:11 | |
| apevec | action for getting word out? | 15:11 |
| rbowen | I'll send the relevant announcements. | 15:11 |
| dmsimard | I'll retweet and repost and spam the announcements | 15:12 |
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| chandankumar | #action rbowen to getting word out for Newton2 testday re-run on 28-29 July | 15:12 |
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| chandankumar | ok moving to next topic | 15:12 |
| chandankumar | #topic Package Review Status | 15:12 |
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| chandankumar | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329341 | 15:13 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1329341 in distribution "Tracker: Blockers and Review requests for new RDO Newton packages" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to apevec | 15:13 |
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| chandankumar | is the Newton package Review tracking Bug | 15:13 |
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| chandankumar | number80, please go ahead. | 15:13 |
| number80 | #info tripleo-ui is moving forward | 15:13 |
| number80 | we have newer nodejs, and honza submitted an initial package | 15:13 |
| apevec | we need moar reviewers! | 15:13 |
| number80 | YES | 15:13 |
| number80 | or send me more matcha-flavored kitkat | 15:14 |
| apevec | so please everybody feel free to do even informal reviews | 15:14 |
| apevec | that all helps | 15:14 |
| jruzicka | OK, I'll try to do some. | 15:15 |
| number80 | pradk: could you check pifpaf and cotyledon reviews btw? | 15:15 |
| chandankumar | me too will help in doinf some review | 15:15 |
| number80 | AFAIK, there are higher prio changes | 15:15 |
| pradk | number80, will do | 15:15 |
| number80 | thank you :) | 15:15 |
| number80 | we also need to push -tests packages reviews | 15:16 |
| chandankumar | Currently i think two is in Queue | 15:16 |
| chandankumar | Sahara-tests: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318765 | 15:16 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1318765 in Package Review "Review Request: openstack-sahara-tests - Sahara Scenario Test Framework" [Unspecified,Assigned] - Assigned to apevec | 15:16 |
| apevec | yeah, those two are in my queue, horizon is looking good, will approve it | 15:16 |
| chandankumar | Horizon-tempest: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1355886 | 15:16 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1355886 in Package Review "python-horizon-tests-tempest : Tempest Integration of Horizon" [Unspecified,Assigned] - Assigned to apevec | 15:16 |
| number80 | yeah, I haven't followed guidelines changes esp. naming and splitting so if someone could write it up somewhere | 15:16 |
| apevec | for sahara, still need to think about giving exception for JARs | 15:16 |
| chandankumar | apevec, Thanks :-) | 15:16 |
| number80 | yeah | 15:17 |
| apevec | building them for src will be "interesting" | 15:17 |
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| apevec | s/for/from/ | 15:17 |
| apevec | it _could_ be viewed as test fixtures, dunno | 15:17 |
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| number80 | well, we need to build them frpm sources at some point | 15:18 |
| chandankumar | number80, is naming and splitting related to test packages writeup? | 15:18 |
| chandankumar | or something else | 15:18 |
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| apevec | number80, back to tripleo-ui https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344932/8/packaging/tripleo-ui.spec I didn't understand we gave free-pass to bundle deps tarball inside upstream source tarball ? | 15:19 |
| number80 | chandankumar: they're guidelines we need to write so that future tests packages remain consistent | 15:19 |
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| chandankumar | number80, i will do that | 15:19 |
| apevec | chandankumar, yes, I'll need to convert my BZ comment into docs | 15:19 |
| apevec | chandankumar, or you can :) | 15:19 |
| number80 | apevec: free-pass to bundle sources in packages, not in the upstream tarball | 15:19 |
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| jruzicka | bz2doc | 15:20 |
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| number80 | AFAIK, it will prevent us to have tripleo-ui in DLRN | 15:20 |
| chandankumar | jruzicka, nice project idea | 15:20 |
| apevec | chandankumar, should fit in https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/rdo-packaging-guidelines/#tests-packaging | 15:20 |
| apevec | chandankumar, ah actually Alfredo already updated that | 15:20 |
| number80 | I have no opinion on having a separate package for deps or not, two sources in one packages works for me | 15:20 |
| apevec | it's good having folks doing work behind your back :) | 15:21 |
| apevec | number80, I'm not sure how that fits trunk packaging? | 15:21 |
| apevec | we only want to have one variable i.e. actual upstream source changing | 15:21 |
| apevec | deps cannot be bundled in that | 15:22 |
| apevec | also how do you re-generate source tarball for git? | 15:22 |
| apevec | it can only be pure source from git | 15:22 |
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| number80 | apevec: it can be fixed by using spectool for everything that is not Source0 | 15:22 |
| apevec | we cannot pull from npm repos during source tarball generation from git | 15:22 |
| apevec | number80, nope | 15:22 |
| number80 | ? | 15:22 |
| apevec | that's network access during the build | 15:22 |
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| apevec | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344932/8/packaging/tripleo-ui.spec@7 | 15:23 |
| apevec | there aren't instructions how to generate the tarball | 15:23 |
| number80 | I think that honza is raising the topic of having proper releases in openstack-dev | 15:23 |
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| apevec | but that's not enough, for trunk builds we need setup.py sdist to work | 15:24 |
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| jruzicka | I'm pretty sure two sources instead of one will generate some work sooner or later so evade if possible ;) | 15:25 |
| apevec | yeah, I suggested separate SRPM for deps | 15:25 |
| number80 | apevec: we need to solve that problem somehow, in the future, we'll have to deal with more javascript and maybe go projects | 15:25 |
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| jruzicka | 1:1 is always simpler then 1:N | 15:25 |
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| jruzicka | hardcoded scalars need change into vectors and things get funny | 15:25 |
| number80 | separate SRPM for deps works for me, i have really no preference | 15:26 |
| apevec | ok, let's continue that on existing rdo-list thread | 15:26 |
| number80 | *nods* | 15:26 |
| chandankumar | action items here? | 15:27 |
| chandankumar | #action apevec to approve python-horizon-tests-tempest package | 15:28 |
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| apevec | #action apevec to followup on tripleo-ui packaging thread on rdo-list | 15:28 |
| chandankumar | apevec, with related to sahara tests, will i try building jar files from source? | 15:29 |
| apevec | #action apevec to revisit givign exception for JARs | 15:29 |
| apevec | chandankumar, that won't be just like that, and should be fixed upstream | 15:29 |
| chandankumar | ok | 15:29 |
| apevec | upstream should be shipping binaries | 15:30 |
| apevec | err | 15:30 |
| apevec | should NOT | 15:30 |
| dmsimard | #undo | 15:30 |
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| dmsimard | #action apevec to revisit giving exception for JARs | 15:30 |
| dmsimard | nit :p | 15:30 |
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| apevec | thanks :) | 15:30 |
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| apevec | actually | 15:30 |
| apevec | #undo | 15:30 |
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| chandankumar | Anything more on this topic? | 15:30 |
| apevec | just a sec | 15:30 |
| apevec | #action apevec to revisit giving exception for JARs in sahara-tests | 15:30 |
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| apevec | not JARs in general :) | 15:31 |
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| dmsimard | are we going to have the same issue with stuff like zookeeper ? | 15:31 |
| apevec | yes, but that's separate thing | 15:31 |
| apevec | it's also in opstools now | 15:31 |
| dmsimard | ok, let's not open that pandora's box now | 15:31 |
| dmsimard | ah, how convenient | 15:31 |
| apevec | plan is to have maven support in CBS, that's under investigation | 15:32 |
| apevec | but separate topic | 15:32 |
| dmsimard | next topic ? | 15:32 |
| apevec | yes | 15:32 |
| chandankumar | will i move to next topic? | 15:32 |
| chandankumar | #topic pin some versions according to upper-constraints.txt | 15:32 |
| chandankumar | https://trello.com/c/guK9Ag12/157-dlrn-builds-must-reflect-what-is-tested-upstream | 15:32 |
| chandankumar | flepied, Please go ahead | 15:32 |
| apevec | that's heads up, it's in progress | 15:33 |
| flepied | it was just to inform that there will be some packages moving backward | 15:33 |
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| trown | back to the future? | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | backward in contents but epoch will be forward, correct ? | 15:33 |
| apevec | yes, we'll be switching centos7-master to have pinned versions for libs, clients, middlewares and such | 15:33 |
| apevec | dmsimard, so contrary to the previous trunk2trunk upgrades talk, this won't be upgradeable | 15:34 |
| apevec | i.e. we won;t be bumping Epoch for this | 15:34 |
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| dmsimard | how does that work, isn't epoch decided by the time at which the package is built ? | 15:34 |
| apevec | there will be separate dlrn which will keep building all from master | 15:35 |
| number80 | I'd rather not support trunk-to-trunk updates | 15:35 |
| dmsimard | or is epoch decided by the time of the commit that is being built, then ? | 15:35 |
| number80 | stable-to-trunk yes | 15:35 |
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| apevec | Epoch is in rpm spec | 15:35 |
| apevec | and it is bumped when upstream changes versioning | 15:35 |
| number80 | the upgrade path matrix for trunk-to-trunk is just too large | 15:35 |
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| dmsimard | er, my understanding of epoch is the timestamp embedded in the package version | 15:36 |
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| apevec | e.g. when openstack changed from timebased Version to semver | 15:36 |
| jruzicka | dmsimard, [epoch].1.0.0 | 15:36 |
| number80 | dmsimard: nope, it just preempt RPM normal version compare workflow | 15:36 |
| apevec | dmsimard, ah no, that's different | 15:36 |
| apevec | That's part of generated Release by DLRN | 15:36 |
| number80 | so it can mess up badly performance of RPM dependency engine and sometime completely break it | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | apevec: but since the timestamp will move forward, the package version will be detected as more up-to-date and thus should be upgradeable, no ? | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | that's what we're relying on for in-gate reviews using the repo that was just built vs current-passed-ci | 15:37 |
| apevec | dmsimard, no, Version which is == upstream version will go back | 15:37 |
| apevec | e.g. current OSC is 2.6.1, pin is 2.6.0 | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | oh | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | right | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | ok | 15:37 |
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| trown | hmm | 15:38 |
| trown | I guess priorities should take care of it | 15:38 |
| apevec | nope | 15:38 |
| apevec | if you're upgrading, yum priorities do not help | 15:38 |
| trown | ah right | 15:38 |
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| apevec | but afaik trunk CI is always from scratch install | 15:39 |
| apevec | so we should be good | 15:39 |
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| dmsimard | apevec: what about we keep the internal dlrn pinned on releases and the third-party dlrn CI we spoke of yesterday would be the one building master of everything | 15:39 |
| trown | there are definitly minor update jobs in progress | 15:39 |
| number80 | who needs trunk-to-trunk upgrades? | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | to detect spec-breaking changes | 15:39 |
| trown | number80: CI | 15:39 |
| number80 | trown: why not testing stable-to-trunk upgrades? | 15:39 |
| trown | number80: for testing minor upgrades | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | trown: stable to trunk, yes, trunk to trunk ? | 15:39 |
| number80 | trunk-to-trunk is too much work | 15:39 |
| number80 | we don't have manpower for that | 15:39 |
| apevec | which job is that, link? | 15:39 |
| weshay | looking for ooo upgrade tests? or other | 15:40 |
| number80 | or you'd have to accept that changes can take one or two days to be reviewed | 15:40 |
| trown | https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/tripleo-periodic/job/tripleo-quickstart-upgrade-minor-mitaka-to-mitaka/ | 15:40 |
| weshay | :) | 15:40 |
| number80 | trade-off to support trunk-to-trunk upgrades is just a bad deal in all cases | 15:40 |
| apevec | ok, stable is fine | 15:40 |
| apevec | we're doing this on master | 15:40 |
| trown | https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/tripleo-periodic/job/tripleo-quickstart-upgrade-minor-master-to-master/ | 15:40 |
| apevec | damn :) | 15:40 |
| number80 | even on master | 15:41 |
| trown | it has never passed though | 15:41 |
| number80 | such changes in master will end up in next stable | 15:41 |
| trown | so we cant break it | 15:41 |
| apevec | trown, ah cool | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | 18 minutes left in meeting | 15:41 |
| number80 | bad idea | 15:41 |
| weshay | we're waiting on one new feature before adding upgrades to the pipeline | 15:42 |
| dmsimard | trunk to trunk isn't expected to work | 15:42 |
| number80 | what we want is not to break upgrades for users, not for development snapshots | 15:42 |
| dmsimard | I don't think grenade even tests for that upstream | 15:42 |
| apevec | grenade is testing N-1 to N | 15:43 |
| trown | we have jobs for that too | 15:43 |
| number80 | N-1 to N snapshots is something we should | 15:43 |
| trown | but I do not see minor upgrades being such a big deal | 15:43 |
| number80 | *do | 15:43 |
| apevec | but I don't see bad to have master2master upgrades running starting from RC | 15:43 |
| weshay | it's the same code path as major in ci | 15:43 |
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| number80 | apevec: actually from M3 would work for me | 15:43 |
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| number80 | at this stage, we should not introduce disruptive changes | 15:44 |
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| apevec | yep, and we'll break this now, before M3 | 15:44 |
| number80 | but before that, it's not realistic | 15:44 |
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| apevec | number80, doesn't hurt to start working on that job, it just won't be in the promotion | 15:44 |
| trown | cool, so we could have minor to minor periodic job for the whole cycle, but not care much about it until after M3 | 15:45 |
| apevec | anyway, next topci | 15:45 |
| number80 | I'm fine with having the job running | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | apevec, my network went done, sorry for that | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | #topic Status of Automate stable packages releases | 15:45 |
| number80 | but fixing this job failure before M3 is not something we want to do | 15:45 |
| trown | cool | 15:45 |
| weshay | aye | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | flepied, again your topic i think | 15:46 |
| number80 | ? | 15:46 |
| number80 | we're still working on this w/ fbo | 15:46 |
| number80 | lemme find the review | 15:46 |
| chandankumar | https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2016-July/msg00140.html | 15:46 |
| number80 | https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1727/ | 15:46 |
| flepied | yes that's also a heads-up that we are going to merge branches to simplify the way we deal with stable branches | 15:47 |
| fbo | https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1732/ | 15:47 |
| fbo | and ^ | 15:47 |
| flepied | #link https://trello.com/c/URAtrhLU/86-automate-stable-packages-releases | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | flepied: merge branches, you mean re: no lazy branching ? | 15:47 |
| apevec | yes | 15:48 |
| flepied | dmsimard: yes we'll use only one branch per stable release | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | thank god | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | let's do this before M3 | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | expecting some things to break as a result | 15:49 |
| flepied | any help welcome on the tasks on the card | 15:49 |
| chandankumar | I think no action item on this, can i move to next topic then? | 15:50 |
| flepied | yep | 15:50 |
| chandankumar | #topic overlap between dashboards.rdo and future status.rdo | 15:50 |
| dmsimard | So today we have https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 15:50 |
| rbowen | WHICH IS ALL GREEN! | 15:50 |
| dmsimard | which is all green | 15:50 |
| flepied | \o/ | 15:51 |
| rbowen | :) | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | yay! | 15:51 |
| dmsimard | but eventually I'd like to have something more like https://demo.cachethq.io/ ( http://status.rdoproject.org/ WIP ) | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2016-July/msg00140.html | 15:51 |
| dmsimard | that would emcompass monitoring and general status of the RDO land in a user-friendly way | 15:51 |
| flepied | I think we should consider the personas we are targeting | 15:52 |
| rbowen | I don't find the overlap harmful. | 15:52 |
| * chandankumar reminds we have 8 mins left. | 15:52 | |
| dmsimard | If we're okay with overlap, I don't mind, I just wanted to point it out | 15:52 |
| rbowen | We also have http://rdoproject.org/stats/ which tracks other aspects of the community, by the way, as long as we're considering overlap. | 15:53 |
| flepied | a more technical dashboard could be useful to track other stuff like number of reviews, stats of gerrit/git | 15:53 |
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| dmsimard | rbowen: TIL about r.o/stats | 15:53 |
| trown | whoa TIL too | 15:53 |
| dmsimard | where does that even come from | 15:53 |
| trown | thats pretty neat | 15:53 |
| dmsimard | okay, so, that's it for me on that topic :) | 15:54 |
| chandankumar | #topic RFE provide stable DLRN interface for TripleO CI | 15:54 |
| dmsimard | define stable dlrn interface | 15:55 |
| chandankumar | it is a just a query from someone related to this https://github.com/openstack-packages/DLRN/issues/22 | 15:55 |
| weshay | aye.. | 15:55 |
| adarazs | yes | 15:55 |
| weshay | just wondering if that is tracked on the rdo board | 15:56 |
| dmsimard | so what I hear is that we should be doing releases of dlrn so that people can pin to that if they want to | 15:56 |
| adarazs | I don't really like the title. what we need is to make DLRN not too trigger happy about checking out the code change (not the spec repo change) when we want to build something locally. | 15:56 |
| dmsimard | but pinning to a release of dlrn is sort of complicated, changes to spec files or rdoinfo/rdopkg could not be backwards compat | 15:56 |
| adarazs | previously there was a hack to achieve that, now it's not possible without code editing. | 15:56 |
| dmsimard | adarazs: oh, that's different | 15:56 |
| jruzicka | dmsimard, I don't think it's about pinning DLRN, but about building specific versions of packages | 15:57 |
| dmsimard | jruzicka: yeah I just got that | 15:57 |
| adarazs | we just need to build single rpms from upstream changes. | 15:57 |
| apevec | adarazs, I'd like to keep that open until jpena is back next week | 15:57 |
| weshay | jruzicka, ya | 15:57 |
| * chandankumar reminds we have 3 mins left | 15:57 | |
| apevec | I did propose --local-source or something like that to address tripleo-ci use-case | 15:57 |
| adarazs | apevec: sounds good to me, do you think jpena will be able to take that on? | 15:58 |
| flepied | I tried to reproduce the problem today but I failed to reproduce | 15:58 |
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| apevec | he surely will, but I'd like to also use this opportunity to rethink dlrn i/f in general | 15:58 |
| apevec | we might want to decompose it | 15:58 |
| apevec | so e.g. we could run it as post-commit job | 15:59 |
| adarazs | flepied: how did you try it? try checking out a custom change in DLRN/data and try to build. DLRN will reset it to master. | 15:59 |
| flepied | adarazs: could you drive me to an example after the meeting? | 15:59 |
| adarazs | flepied: sure. | 15:59 |
| apevec | yeah, just update the DLRN issue with examples | 15:59 |
| apevec | so that jpena can catch up next week | 15:59 |
| adarazs | good idea. | 15:59 |
| chandankumar | apevec, next topic? | 16:00 |
| apevec | yes | 16:00 |
| chandankumar | #chair for next meeting | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied for imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter meeting mengxd next number80 richm social trown weshay | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: for | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: next | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs apevec chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard flepied for imcsk8 jjoyce jschlueter meeting mengxd next number80 richm social trown weshay | 16:00 |
| chandankumar | #topic chair for next meeting | 16:00 |
| jruzicka | heh. I can. | 16:00 |
| chandankumar | #action jruzicka to chair for next meeting | 16:00 |
| chandankumar | We are running out of time, so i am going to close the meeting | 16:01 |
| rbowen | +1 | 16:01 |
| chandankumar | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| zodbot | Meeting ended Wed Jul 27 16:01:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . | 16:01 |
| zodbot | Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-07-27/rdo_meeting_-_2016-07-27.2016-07-27-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| zodbot | Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-07-27/rdo_meeting_-_2016-07-27.2016-07-27-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| zodbot | Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-07-27/rdo_meeting_-_2016-07-27.2016-07-27-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| rbowen | Thanks, chandankumar | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 27 16:01:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27.2016-07-27-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27.2016-07-27-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27/2016/rdo_meeting___2016_07_27.2016-07-27-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| chandankumar | perfect timing | 16:01 |
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| chandankumar | Thanks everyone for joining the meeting. | 16:01 |
| adarazs | thanks :) | 16:01 |
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| jjoyce | I have a general question should patches for specs go from rpm-master to <release>-rdo or rpm-<release> I can never seem to keep it straight. | 16:03 |
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| jjoyce | apevec number80: ^ | 16:04 |
| apevec | jjoyce, rpm-master always first | 16:04 |
| jruzicka | I'd think rpm-master -> rpm-<release> -> <release>-rdo as needed | 16:04 |
| apevec | jjoyce, what patch is it ? | 16:05 |
| jjoyce | apevec: Looking at aodh | 16:05 |
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| apevec | jruzicka, correct and in https://trello.com/c/URAtrhLU/86-automate-stable-packages-releases we are removing rpm-<release> | 16:05 |
| apevec | i.e. both stable CBS and dlrn builds will be from <release>-rdo | 16:05 |
| apevec | jjoyce, in any case propose it to rpm-master first | 16:06 |
| jjoyce | apevec: Latest build was missing patches from rpm-mitaka. Looks to be the same for ceilometer. Trying to help those guys get the process down. | 16:06 |
| apevec | hmm, there are patches on rpm-mitaka? | 16:06 |
| apevec | that shouldn't be the case | 16:06 |
| number80 | yes | 16:06 |
| apevec | rpm-* is pure upstream w/o patches | 16:07 |
| jjoyce | apevec: That is what I thought, but do not want to make things worse. | 16:07 |
| jruzicka | apevec, yeah, that's great | 16:07 |
| * apevec checks aodh-distgit | 16:07 | |
| jjoyce | jruzicka: Thanks for the info. | 16:07 |
| jruzicka | jjoyce, sure thing. The fact you "can never seem to keep it straight" is a great argument for making it just 2 branches instead of 3 ;) | 16:08 |
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| * jjoyce wonders if I am the only one with that issue | 16:09 | |
| jruzicka | no I don't think so ;) | 16:09 |
| jruzicka | it's just not clear from the names | 16:10 |
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| jruzicka | rpm-master vs <release>-rdo is much better | 16:10 |
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| number80 | apevec: I'm waiting pradk patchsets to merge before new build | 16:11 |
| jjoyce | jruzicka: Based on the names I would thing rpm-master -> rpm-<release> | 16:11 |
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| jjoyce | number80 apevec: Trying to help pradk get the correct flow since ceilometer has the same issue. | 16:11 |
| jruzicka | jjoyce, the difference between rpm-<release> and <release>-rdo isn't really clear on a first sight :) | 16:12 |
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| jjoyce | jruzicka: if rpm-<release> is pure upstream then vanilla-<release>, or similar, would help. | 16:14 |
| number80 | jjoyce: correct workflow is ffix it in rpm-mitaka | 16:14 |
| number80 | and get me cherry-picking in mitaka-rdo | 16:14 |
| number80 | current workflow is flawed | 16:14 |
| jjoyce | number80: So rpm-master -> rpm-mitaka -> mitaka-rdo? | 16:14 |
| number80 | but to fix workflow, we need space to do it | 16:14 |
| number80 | yes | 16:14 |
| number80 | (or clone myself) | 16:15 |
| jjoyce | number80: Do all dist-gits have rpm-mitaka? | 16:15 |
| pradk | ceilometer seems fine for the most part.. i see one i18n patch missing | 16:15 |
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| SPOF80 | jjoyce: lazying branching another flaw :) | 16:16 |
| jruzicka | although there is a finite number of Haikel's clones that would solve the problem, I'd still fix the workflow ;) | 16:16 |
| SPOF80 | not necessarily | 16:16 |
| jruzicka | SPOF80, why flaw? | 16:16 |
| SPOF80 | jruzicka: it's too complex for the occasional contributor | 16:16 |
| jruzicka | SPOF80, to create new branch? | 16:16 |
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| SPOF80 | jruzicka: they simply can't create new branches | 16:16 |
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| misc | unless you have ents as contributors | 16:17 |
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| pradk | SPOF80, http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1740 | 16:18 |
| SPOF80 | call it number80's law; the more people ask questions about your process, the more broken it is by design | 16:19 |
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| * jschlueter nods at SPOF80 | 16:19 | |
| replacable | SPOF80, hmm are we talking about patches branches? It should be enough to just `rdopkg review-patch`, no? Do the branches really need to be created? | 16:19 |
| SPOF80 | replacable: nope packaging branches | 16:20 |
| SPOF80 | we don't have enough downstream patches so that people can stress this part :) | 16:21 |
| replacable | oh, right, the "when there is no rpm-<release> use rpm-master"? | 16:21 |
| replacable | that will also be solved by dropping rpm-<release> in favor of <release>-rdo and dlrn that if I got what apevec meant. | 16:22 |
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| SPOF80 | yes | 16:23 |
| SPOF80 | it's easier that way | 16:24 |
| SPOF80 | VPN access failures ... | 16:24 |
| apevec | let's stop funny nick names fest, it's not Friday :) | 16:25 |
| apevec | now I have to look back who is how ;) | 16:25 |
| apevec | ee *who | 16:25 |
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| number80 | well, SPOF80 is explicit :) | 16:25 |
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| jjoyce | number80 apevec: thanks for the help, just trying to get this right in my head so I can help others. | 16:27 |
| apevec | jjoyce, but I still didn't get which patches are we talking about? | 16:28 |
| apevec | is that spec or source patches? | 16:28 |
| jjoyce | apevec: spec | 16:28 |
| jjoyce | apevec: two from aodh and one from ceilometer | 16:28 |
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| apevec | ok, then yes rpm-master first then backport to rpm-mitaka | 16:28 |
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| jjoyce | apevec: The missing piece was getting those patches to mitaka-rdo | 16:29 |
| number80 | well, that's why I jokingly called myself a SPOF as I am one here | 16:29 |
| apevec | jjoyce, that will be automated but for now it's manual | 16:29 |
| number80 | that stable build thing is about removing myself as a SPOF | 16:30 |
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| apevec | so no reviews on mitaka-rdo like this https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1740/ | 16:30 |
| number80 | apevec: I just logged in with wrong user | 16:30 |
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| jjoyce | number80: ack | 16:31 |
| apevec | number80, jjoyce, https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/Ib4fb28d122ca2fd4060f8c71fdce651fa3b8720e,n,z it should have been backported to rpm-mitaka, not mitaka-rdo | 16:31 |
| jjoyce | apevec: Both right to get it into a build. | 16:32 |
| apevec | number80, yes, https://helgeklein.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Go-away-or-I-will-replace-you-with-a-very-small-script.png | 16:34 |
| jjoyce | apevec: That needs to be a tee shirt | 16:36 |
| apevec | totally | 16:36 |
| apevec | I think there's one | 16:36 |
| apevec | at least aortega mentioned it to me :) | 16:36 |
| jjoyce | I will have to search for it later. | 16:37 |
| apevec | number80, so there has been few mitaka-rdo reviews: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/branch:mitaka-rdo | 16:37 |
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| number80 | apevec: yes, because nobody understands the process | 16:39 |
| jschlueter | what is python-setuptools_scm | 16:39 |
| apevec | and as you said, that's why we're fixing it :) | 16:39 |
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| apevec | jschlueter, where do you see that? | 16:40 |
| jschlueter | python-keyring | 16:40 |
| jschlueter | BuildRequires | 16:40 |
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| jschlueter | apevec: ^^ | 16:40 |
| jschlueter | python-keyring-5.7.1-1.el7 | 16:41 |
| jjoyce | apevec number80: I am guilty of not patching the correct branch | 16:41 |
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| number80 | jjoyce: no, I'm guilty of pushing bizarre process on people | 16:41 |
| jjoyce | number80: Let me know how to help, I am here and willing. | 16:42 |
| number80 | apevec: I just merged them because it's just that dashboards are buzzing red everywhere | 16:42 |
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| apevec | where is red? | 16:42 |
| number80 | it's not like I have one to three tasks to do in parallel | 16:42 |
| number80 | people asking me to push builds today | 16:43 |
| jjoyce | again... guilty | 16:43 |
| number80 | jjoyce: you're not the only one :) | 16:43 |
| number80 | *asking | 16:43 |
| jjoyce | number80: I can believe that :) | 16:44 |
| apevec | number80, mitaka-rdo reviews are not configured in zuul, I don't think they'll get merged with +W | 16:44 |
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| number80 | I can cherry-pick but I fear that I made mistakes (forgetting a patch or doing it in the wrong tab) | 16:44 |
| apevec | but you could merge them manually | 16:44 |
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| number80 | ack | 16:44 |
| apevec | at the same time, it must be done in rpm-mitaka before *-rdo, for now | 16:45 |
| apevec | and before doing CBS build, sanity check with git diff mitaka-rdo..rpm-mitaka | 16:45 |
| apevec | diff should be only Version/Release/Source0/changelog | 16:46 |
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| number80 | yeah, considering the sheer number of tasks, I can't help fearing my own human mistakes | 16:48 |
| number80 | nb packages x nb branches x changes == packaging hell matrix | 16:49 |
| number80 | it's not like I can afford spending one full hour on a single package | 16:50 |
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| trown | weshay: master minimal periodic did fail on tempest like I described at lunch | 17:15 |
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| number80 | I'm off, see ya | 17:48 |
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| number80 | more NA people to take care of the channel if any naughty spammers comes by :) | 17:49 |
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| dmsimard | apevec: so for that spam, if we replace Allah by Alan, is that accurate ? | 17:51 |
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| apevec | no | 17:51 |
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| jschlueter | http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1744 Fixup building without -doc rpm | 18:16 |
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| trown | oh I did /ignore on that yesterday so I did not know what you guys were talking about | 18:29 |
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| dmsimard | my brain hurts | 19:58 |
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| jschlueter | gerrot bot is not reporting change sets again | 20:05 |
| jschlueter | *gerrit | 20:05 |
| dmsimard | he's not here, must've had a bad restart | 20:05 |
| dmsimard | checking | 20:05 |
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| dmsimard | there you go | 20:06 |
| dmsimard | jschlueter: ^ ty | 20:06 |
| jschlueter | dmsimard: thanks! | 20:07 |
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| *** dmsimard changes topic to "RDO: An OpenStack Distribution for CentOS/Fedora/RHEL | Test days Jul 28th, 29th ! |Community meeting is held here every Wednesday at 15:00UTC | Please read our IRC community guidelines: http://rdoproject.org/IRC_etiquette | Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23rdo/"" | 20:13 | |
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| pabelanger | dmsimard: did you get a launchpad account setup by chance? | 20:32 |
| pabelanger | gah | 20:33 |
| pabelanger | https://review.rdoproject.org/r/login returns Forbidden when I login with my github.com credentials | 20:33 |
| pabelanger | guess that hasn't been fixed yet | 20:33 |
| pabelanger | Is github.com the only auth method supported on review.rdoproject.org? | 20:35 |
| rbowen | I would expect so | 20:37 |
| pabelanger | Ya, can't login. Fails to oauth for me | 20:40 |
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| jdennis | I'm trying to do a packstack --allinone on RHEL 7.2 but yum is failing with Error: Package: 1:python-cinder-8.0.0-1.el7.noarch (openstack-mitaka) Requires: python-cheetah, any ideas? | 20:51 |
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| imcsk8 | jdennis: you should check your repos | 20:54 |
| imcsk8 | i don't have a RHEL installation around but it seems like you're missing the repo for python-cheetah | 20:55 |
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| jdennis | imcsk8: right, I understand that, but I believe my repos are correct, any idea which repo python-cheetah is supposed to be in? | 20:56 |
| imcsk8 | jdennis: let me check | 20:57 |
| imcsk8 | jdennis: in centos is in the extras repo | 20:57 |
| imcsk8 | i'm not shure the equivalent for RHEL | 20:58 |
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| number80 | jdennis, imcsk8: extras in both case, cheetah is a dependency of cloud-init btw | 21:15 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: I'm fighting other fires right now | 21:17 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: so no | 21:17 |
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| number80 | /buffer 56 | 21:31 |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/keystone-distgit: Fixup building without -doc rpm http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1744 | 21:33 |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/heatclient-distgit: Added py2 and py3 subpackage http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1623 | 21:33 |
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| number80 | jschlueter: quick question, I notice that in keystone, you kept the man patch in your without-doc series of patches | 21:44 |
| number80 | shouldn't we do the same for other projects? | 21:44 |
| number80 | s/man patch/man page/ | 21:44 |
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| rdogerrit | Alan Pevec proposed openstack/glance-distgit: Conditionalize -doc building http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1728 | 21:47 |
| dmsimard | Posted the first real incident on status.rdoproject.org: http://status.rdoproject.org/ :p | 21:51 |
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| number80 | dmsimard: is it normal that I can't load the page? | 21:59 |
| rdogerrit | rdo-trunk created openstack/heatclient-distgit: python-heatclient: failed to build acdb668 http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1745 | 21:59 |
| number80 | or is it the first incident | 21:59 |
| number80 | damn | 21:59 |
| number80 | I know | 21:59 |
| dmsimard | number80: https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2016-July/msg00141.html | 21:59 |
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| apevec | dmsimard, I commented in https://github.com/rdo-infra/puppet-dlrn/issues/40 | 22:00 |
| number80 | isn't this a chrome thing? | 22:00 |
| apevec | couldn't find where would that be in the httpd config | 22:00 |
| apevec | number80, it's combination of server and client configs | 22:01 |
| dmsimard | number80: it's a server-side parameter that is enforced client side | 22:01 |
| dmsimard | apevec: I don't have an explanation, visiting rdoproject.org doesn,t reproduce the error, as soon as I visit trunk.rdo I reproduce the error | 22:01 |
| apevec | dmsimard, just put letsencrypt | 22:01 |
| dmsimard | apevec: yeah I want to put letsencrypt everywhere | 22:02 |
| apevec | dmsimard, ok, we'll leave that to jpena to figure out, easy one after PTO :) | 22:02 |
| apevec | I've seen from bash history that he used puppet apache module to configure trunk.rdo | 22:02 |
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| number80 | wow, I went there by mistake and massive reboot -> http://status.fedoraproject.org/ | 22:03 |
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| apevec | number80, must be some ugly kernel CVE ? | 22:04 |
| number80 | possibly or just moving servers | 22:07 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: this login issue is fubar | 22:08 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: yup | 22:08 |
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| number80 | damn osc-lib | 22:09 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: the gerrit database.. | 22:10 |
| dmsimard | has a table "account_id", with one field, called "s" | 22:10 |
| rdogerrit | hguemar created openstack/heatclient-distgit: osc-lib is newton+ only change http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1746 | 22:12 |
| number80 | fixing the heatclient mitaka FTBFS | 22:12 |
| number80 | that's why I wanted to have py3 changes in mitaka | 22:13 |
| number80 | newton requires unrelated changes, making it more error-prone to backport to mitaka | 22:13 |
| apevec | ah new dep sliped into py3 patch? | 22:13 |
| number80 | yeah | 22:13 |
| number80 | minor issue though | 22:14 |
| apevec | yeah, reqcheck syncs should be kept as separate change | 22:14 |
| number80 | it's just that after the 20th package, my eyes are less careful :) | 22:14 |
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| number80 | damn, I scared monasca folks with their weird requirements requests | 22:17 |
| number80 | today, they wanted to add jira in g-r | 22:18 |
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| apevec | jira bug tracker?! | 22:22 |
| apevec | isn't that Java | 22:22 |
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| dmsimard | what the hell | 22:24 |
| number80 | they needed a client library to automatically open tickets in jira | 22:24 |
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| number80 | we don't need cloud platform opening tickets but self-healing cloud or better self-developping cloud :) | 22:25 |
| number80 | I should patent the latter | 22:25 |
| dmsimard | number80, apevec: there's a bunch of errors in the software factory logs when someone logs in.. | 22:26 |
| dmsimard | it tries to create the users every time and there's a duplicate key error | 22:26 |
| dmsimard | it happens even when I try to log in | 22:26 |
| dmsimard | trying to troubleshoot pabelanger's login problems .. I think I'll leave it to someone from software factory | 22:27 |
| number80 | dmsimard: mhu is the authentication guy in SF | 22:27 |
| number80 | well, a bit late for him, but you can mail him | 22:27 |
| number80 | oh nice ticket | 22:29 |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/heatclient-distgit: osc-lib is newton+ only change http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1746 | 22:31 |
| apevec | dmsimard, file them bug in http://softwarefactory-project.io/redmine/projects/software-factory then email to raise prio | 22:31 |
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| apevec | number80, which ticket? | 22:32 |
| dmsimard | sent an email | 22:32 |
| number80 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1360786 | 22:33 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1360786 in Package Review "Missing python2-heatclient rpm during undercloud upgrade Liberty to Mitaka" [Unspecified,Closed: worksforme] - Assigned to hguemar | 22:33 |
| number80 | I fixed it right before it was created | 22:33 |
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| jschlueter | number80: yep, the man pages are included in the main rpm | 22:37 |
| jschlueter | and yes we should as a general rule | 22:37 |
| number80 | great | 22:39 |
| number80 | maybe that's something we should add to the openstack spec templates | 22:40 |
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| jschlueter | number80: also the openstack-glance still fails when building docs ... not sure what issue is | 22:41 |
| jschlueter | :-( | 22:41 |
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| number80 | looking into this one | 22:49 |
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| number80 | I think this is a bug upstream | 22:54 |
| number80 | Yeah, it didn't break in DLRN as the code commented | 22:55 |
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| * jschlueter nods that's why I was going for conditional comment out so we could more easily see that it was disabled and re-enable and debug it seperate from the cleanup | 23:09 | |
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| number80 | jschlueter: found culprit and someone is working on fixing it upstream https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1605648 | 23:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605648 in oslo.config "help text string on config fails translations and breaks glance docs" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Doug Hellmann (doug-hellmann) | 23:14 |
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