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| tina2be | Hello everyone. Does an environment that has no developers and is using the default and vanilla openstack as the infra, need to have and run CI/CD solutions including Zuul? | 10:50 |
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| tina2be | If yes so, what would be benefit of having such component and tool, and if not, I would appreciate if you clarify the reason. | 10:51 |
| tina2be | Personally, what I think is that such solutions would be a benefit for companies coding in Nova and other components or trying to add some by themselves, so AFAIK environments with no developers could only use automation tools such an ansible since all they do is to deploy and test phases and pipelines would never get so much of a big deal to have a CICD solution. If I am wrong, I'd appreciate if you correct me. cheers. | 10:53 |
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| admin0 | tina2be, if you do your own stuff, in time you introduce drift and then your platform might not be able to upgrade etc .. so if you use standard openstack build platform .. and what it gives you is OK .. just use it .. use the CI/CD for your own stuff that you deploy on top of openstack as a tenant | 11:34 |
| admin0 | we use openstack-ansible and that is released passing all ci/cd zuul test by dozens of developers .. so there is no further need to validate that ourselves .. so all we need to do is just use it | 11:36 |
| tina2be | admin0: Thanks for your complete description, thanks buddy. | 11:37 |
| admin0 | lesson learnt involved in deploying openstack almost weekly for the last 5+years .. don't be a hero and say .. well i can fix this in in deployment by changing this bla python code ... it work at that time, but adds a burden to carry that change forward in your platform in every upgrade/update .... so if you need a change, make a case with a story and approach the developers .. if the use case is good, it will get added or debated and you will find | 11:40 |
| admin0 | out maybe new ways of doing the same stuff .. or your approach was totally wrong | 11:40 |
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| tina2be | admin0: yeah you're right, thanks for sharing your lessons, I appreciate. | 12:43 |
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| webczat | hello | 13:57 |
| webczat | I am using ocata (old, i know). When i make a heat template, is it possible to attach a preallocated floating ip without uting it's uuid? I would prefer to use the ip address in it's place but it does not work | 13:57 |
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