Tuesday, 2018-03-20

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sdeathh-uh…  OK…  did something change in Keystone's SSL configuration from Ocata to Pike?01:22
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EugeneNhi. Does anyone hit or know the following problem: nova hypervisor-stats shows jumping stats for used memory. It appears that for some hosts it alternates between actually used memory and memory allocated for VMs (e.g. from flavor perspective)02:01
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EugeneNnodes themselves report used memory retrieven from /proc/meminfo02:02
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jack_ivHey guys, some of my VMs became unreachable (on the same hypervisor). I found that the ports are in DOWN state. That's quite strange because nothings changed. Some of VMs are UP, but some of aren't.07:30
jack_iv`virsh domiflist` shows nothing for those which are unreachable07:30
jack_iv`openstack port` shows status DOWN, admin_state_up UP07:30
jack_ivno errors in the logs. ovs and dvr implementation07:30
jack_ivI can create new VMs in this network and they are reachable. Does anyone have any idea what happened and where to look at?07:30
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jack_ivhere is the only suspicious logs I found https://pastebin.com/NVTb9Rs507:35
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Guest56383Hi, I am configuring openstack on a single server running ubuntu. The machine has only one NIC card. I created a bridge network (br-ex) on eth0 with static ip 192.168.122.1. In linux-bridge, I have given br-ex as provider network. I am able to launch instances in ip range 192.168.122.101-192.168.122.250 with gateway 192.168.122.1. I am able to ping instances from provider network. But I cannot connect instances to internet.09:14
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Guest56383Also, the server ip is in the range 134.x.x.x, but I cannot assign a public ip pool from this range to the instances.09:14
Guest56383Any help is appreciated09:14
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saybeaneHow hard can i squeeze the resources on a compute node - in so much as how much RAM should I leave the OS - I am only provisioning two VMs per host, and I am wondering if I can assign all of the available RAM and CPUs to the two VMs?!09:31
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rmart04Saybeane: You can tweak the overcommitment ratios in nova… here is some info. https://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/design-compute/design-compute-overcommit.html09:38
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rmart04And here is some more info about actually configuring the scheduler https://docs.openstack.org/nova/queens/admin/configuration/schedulers.html.09:39
saybeanethank you rmart04 (o:09:39
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rmart04Saybeane: Having re-read your question… it depends on the resources of the hardware really, Aim to leave at least a few GB’s of RAM for the OS and any related processes… nova, neutron. You don’t want the OOM killing processes! It might be worth configuring KVM to use all but one or two cores too, depending on the specs of your CPUs, obviously!09:46
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saybeaneHmm, I've already been committing all of my cores to the VMs for a few years now09:47
saybeaneNice one though09:47
rmart04It really all depends on the usecase i guess. For example we run public cloud hosts, so we reserve some CPU for the management of the machine, but if you were into HPC or similar, you might want to squeeze every last drop out of them09:47
saybeaneBasically my workloads are getting so high these days for the VMs that I need to either buy more memory or commit all the RAM09:48
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boolmanhey peeps, I'm having trouble with the nova-api. I'm not using https internally within openstack. I'm trying to figure out why it uses https here: http://ix.io/ZZm09:50
rmart04Oh well, i’d probably buy more memory! Unless your workloads aren’t sentitive to host failure!09:51
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saybeaneThey are quite sensitive yeah - but they're failing now - I'd deploy a single VM but they only need about an extra gig each - I am building two VMs with 28cores and 62GB atm. The workloads don't justify building a single 124GB 58core VM09:53
saybeaneThink I'll mess about today with a new host agg. and a flavour and throw the failing workload at them for 24hrs and see what gives!09:53
saybeaneThanks for being a soundboard rmart04 (o:09:54
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boolmannvm, I fixed it. needed to add os_interface under [placement]09:58
rmart04No problem mate, good luck!09:58
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gameonHi all - I have an issue where I see a lot churn on instances that use floating IPs - the floating IPs remain assigned to a project. Is there a way to automatically reclaim these back to the pool?10:30
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admin0gameon, if its unassigned, make a policy that if you see floating ips unused in 2 weeks, u claim it back10:41
admin0?10:41
gameonadmin0: That would work, but I was hoping there was a config value for OpenStack to manage it10:42
admin0if users assign ips (not not used it) its not a openstack config thing is it ?:)10:43
admin0but not*10:43
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DHEnot a bug, but a design decision. from a default policy point of view I think the current behavior is ideal10:48
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mikecmpbllif i've used X-Delete-At to expire an object, and the object is expired but not yet deleted, can i 'restore' it?11:54
mikecmpbllwith object storage, this is.11:54
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UtkingHey guys!13:01
UtkingWe are a team that has some issues getting rally to work with openstack queens13:01
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UtkingGetting bad credentials, even though evyerthing should be correct13:02
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sudodudeIn my OpenStack environment (multiple compute nodes, one controller, running Ocata), I'm attempting to resize some instances but when I try it, their flavor does not change. In the action log, through the Dashboard, I see that the resize operation returns an "error" message but I cannot find the error anywhere. The instances are powered off when I try to resize them. Any ideas?13:42
sudodudeAlso, I have tried following the suggestions posted here https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/80505/instance-resize-is-not-working/ No luck.13:42
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SamYaplesudodude: stop using horizon to test it, try using the cli tools13:50
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SamYaplethe horizon logs can be a bit tricky since there is configuration options per client13:50
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sudodude@SamYaple it doesn't seem to matter whether I attempt to resize the instance through the CLI or Horizon. The only error I found, however, is being shown in Horizon.14:00
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ddubshey all, deploying using tripleo but I cant seem to find a parameter that changes the AdminURL in the keystone catalog so that I can get it on a different network (its putting it on internal_api which is non-routable) any ideas?14:23
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marstddubs: Hi. Folks from #rdo might help with that question.14:30
marstddubs: or as a hack you could probably change it after the installation.14:31
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ddubsmarst: thnx, problem with managing it after deploy is tripleo will squash on updates14:34
ddubsi'll go check #rdo14:34
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umbSublimesudodude: look on the nova-compute logs on the compute host where the instance currently is15:23
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mark2Hi, anyone tried running macosx as a instance?15:25
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sudodudeumbSublime: yep, I see the error: " ResizeError: Resize error: not able to execute ssh command: Command: ssh -o BatchMode=yes 192.168.1.12 mkdir -p /var/lib/nova/instances/60f14498-c07c-48ca-9965-cb3c8e24935b Unexpected error while running command. Host key verification failed."15:42
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umbSublimesudodude: make sure you can ssh between compute hosts16:13
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umbSublimeIIRC nova first starts by migrating the instance to a host that accepts the final flavor16:13
umbSublimein this case it looks like the comm between compute hosts ins't working (either network issue or ssh key issue)16:14
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notmynamemikecmpbll: did you get an answer to you object expiry question about swift? there was someone else asking almost the exact same question in #openstack-swift16:29
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mikecmpbllnotmyname : i didn't. we've managed to retrieve the files that we disastrously expired by accident by other means. (our provider helped us)16:30
mikecmpblllemme check logs, maybe it was a colleague :D16:30
mikecmpbllhm, might be techies from our provider actually :D16:31
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RandomTechHey, i have an instance stuck in an error state with task deleting16:34
RandomTechany suggestions on how to fix this?16:34
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ameedaHi, I try to create stack using rest api. current api version is V1 . I POST request with auth key , I got this error message {     "explanation": "The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect.",     "code": 400,     "error": {         "message": "The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect.",         "traceback": null,         "16:36
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umbSublimeameeda: you just probably also ask in #heat16:39
ameedaI asked here, nova,heat, no reply16:39
umbSublimeRandomTech: check the logs on he compute host. If the issue was on the compute node, you could reset-state --active and re-launch de delete16:39
umbSublimeameeda: it's IRC, you need to be patient :)16:40
RandomTechThanks, umSublime i just managed to do that, waiting for it to delete now16:40
ameedaI have to show demo tomorrow, I was do demo on v3 , but the setup is changed to v2 now :(16:41
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mark2Hi, what would be the image property for running mac os x as an instance?16:49
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sudodudeumbSublime: I can SSH between hosts and I can actually run the command that fails, as root. It looks like it might not be using root to run the command.17:00
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umbSublimenova-compute most likely runs as user nova17:04
umbSublimemake sure it also has a key to connect to other host17:04
umbSublimesudodude: ^17:04
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RandomTechI have a instance that wont finish a deletion task. I installed openstack using Openstack Ansible pike. Anyone have any suggestions on how i can fix this?17:06
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umbSublimeRandomTech: did you take a look at compute logs on the host as suggested earlier :)17:11
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umbSublimeyou might wan't restart nova-compute on that host, and then retry the  reset-state and delete17:12
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RandomTechi didnt see anything in the scedualer logs or the conductor logs umSublime17:13
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umbSublimeRandomTech: I'm talking about the compute host (where the istance is living)17:14
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SamYapleRandomTech: you can reset the state and delete it again17:15
SamYapleive seen that happen with lost messages/service restarts17:15
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umbSublimeSamYaple: I think he tried earlier with no success, which is why I suggested to restart nova-compute on the cumpute-host :)17:19
umbSublimeor at least look at it's logs to see what's up17:19
SamYapleah yea i restarted my client so i dont have scrollback17:19
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RandomTechumbSublime: im not noticing anything that stands out as an error17:22
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RandomTechSamYaple: so just for "nova reset-state name"?17:23
RandomTechjust do*17:23
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SamYapleRandomTech: `nova reset-state --active name`17:24
SamYapleyou want toreset it out of error state17:24
SamYapleso you can delete it again17:24
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RandomTechany idea on how long i should give it SamYaple? This is what nova list shows now just incase: http://paste.openstack.org/show/706347/17:27
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SamYapledeletes shouldnt take terribly long, but its influenced by your openstack configuration (storage driver, networking, etc)17:27
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RandomTechits a new instalation that i was testing to find bugs17:29
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RandomTechi accidentally hit something no the instance i was trying to test and threw it into error17:30
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RandomTechSamYaple: it seems to still be stuck deleting17:50
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SamYapleyoure going to have logs somewhere for this RandomTech17:59
SamYapletheres a stacktrace somewhere talking about it not deleting in time17:59
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RageLtManmark2: probably need to create libvirt definition for the proper machine type to address EFI loading, then define that in the image properties of what you're trying to load18:10
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RageLtMantechnically though, unless your hypervisors are actually OSX machines, i dont think you're supposed to do that...18:10
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SamYapleyea OSX is licensed to the hardware technically18:11
SamYaplethat said, ive run hackintosh in openstack before18:11
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RageLtManGreat, now jobs' ghost and army of lawyers are looking to find you like the ring wraiths18:12
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RageLtMan"... and in the darkness, sue them"18:12
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mark2RageLtMan: Do I have to create the instance first and edit xml or is there a libvirt definition in glance?18:24
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RageLtMandont bother screwing with the XML, nova will rewrite it18:26
RageLtManhttps://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM18:26
RageLtManshould be able to use that to build an image18:27
mark2RageLtMan: I have vmdk that I converted to qcow2. I was able to run the instance but it is stuck on booting when I checked the console.18:28
RageLtManThe underlying libvirt machine type needs to be the same, and if you're using EFI you'll probably need the same EFI image18:30
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RageLtManformat conversions shouldn't screw it up, though im not sure if UUIDs could be affected18:30
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kmyHello all, any backup/disaster recovery for openstack deployed with TripleO?18:33
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RageLtManSamYaple: you seem to be a permanent fixture here, so maybe you might know: what's replacing Mirantis' fuel as the "user-friendly" deployment mechanism? That seems to be the biggest barrier to new clouds coming up these days18:39
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SamYapleRageLtMan: nothing! and alot of stuff18:41
SamYaplemy favorite deployment projects are OSH openstack-helm (kubernetes), kolla-ansible and openstakc-ansible18:42
RageLtManFuel was great for getting people away from VMWare/Xen where its "unbox system -> running setup." The docker stuff doesnt handle metal provisioning last i checked18:43
RageLtMani havent seen help18:43
SamYaplecorrect18:43
RageLtManhelm18:43
SamYapleno real replacement18:43
RageLtManballs.18:43
RageLtManThe loss of that one project basically killed openstack in businesses smaller than full-fledged enterprise18:44
RageLtManive also seen a lot of companies dumping it because their idiot ops teams are used to VMWare and cant figure out that MQs wont work when the disk is full of logs18:44
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RageLtManliterally, no joke, seen companies dump openstack almost a dozen times because they think that an application environment running infra is aberant. i guess they dont know how vix/xapi work either.18:45
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SamYapleRageLtMan: gotta completely disagree with you there18:53
SamYaplebut i understand where youre coming from18:53
SamYaplefrankly i never liked fuel, but i do see the value it added to some areas18:53
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SamYaplethe other deploy tools are alot more flexible18:53
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RageLtManAgreed, for scale deployments its not the way to go19:14
RageLtManFor clients where openstack could have replaced a very costly VMWare setup and added massive functionality though, its a major loss.19:14
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RageLtManI think Mirantis just ran out of runway for that business model - converting a market to a new way of thinking is very time consuming, and it looks like their CFO drives ops, and his public postings do not make me think he's very technically proficient19:15
RageLtManso having someone who doesnt understand the nature of the change he's trying to push determining direction and timelines was probably never going to work, but the "one stop shop" for putting together a stack was awesome for those mid-to-large companies19:16
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RageLtManThe major win it provided was to decouple clients from us, the consultants - they didnt "need us" anymore to keep expanding the stack, which was great.19:17
RageLtManNow the business logic dictates that anything used would need its own maintenance contract and the whole thing goes stillborn at best from there.19:17
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