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| davidbowlby | has anyone migrated from a pretty old openstack release to the latest? | 04:04 |
| davidbowlby | I have 2014.1.1 right now | 04:04 |
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| davidbowlby | running on ubuntu 14.04 LTS | 04:04 |
| davidbowlby | I want to make my nodes current as a matter of tech currency | 04:05 |
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| davidbowlby | i'm debating on what to do, if upgrade path makes sense or just lift and replace. Not sure if my instances will gently move over in a lift and put scenario though. | 04:08 |
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| masber | anyone with experience in openstak-ansible? | 04:32 |
| masber | do I need br-mgmt on the compute nodes? | 04:32 |
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| masber | davidbowlby, I guess you will have deploy an all-in-one and test if libvirt can use your existing vms? | 04:37 |
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| davidbowlby | masber, I suppose I could do that | 04:38 |
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| masber | by libvirt I meant the kvm version deployed by the openstack version you want to migrate to | 04:38 |
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| davidbowlby | yeah, my cloud is simply for compute, so shouldn't be too complicated | 04:39 |
| davidbowlby | I don't use object storage or any of those services really | 04:39 |
| masber | so just nova, neutron and cinder? | 04:39 |
| davidbowlby | I'm just a little concerned about the controller services | 04:39 |
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| davidbowlby | yeah | 04:39 |
| masber | yes, I am not an expert but controller shouldn't be an issue as it will be a new installation | 04:40 |
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| davidbowlby | can I move a compute node from one controller to another? | 04:40 |
| masber | so as long as it is well configured it should all work | 04:40 |
| davidbowlby | it was done 4 years ago, I'm a little cobwebby | 04:41 |
| masber | ah, I don't think so | 04:41 |
| masber | but again I am not an expert | 04:41 |
| masber | the new version of kvm works differently | 04:41 |
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| masber | I remember the kolla team has lots of issues migrating to ocata to pike because of the kvm version | 04:42 |
| masber | I was thinking about migrate the vms | 04:42 |
| davidbowlby | gotch | 04:42 |
| davidbowlby | *gotcha | 04:42 |
| davidbowlby | I'm considering doing a drive swap and installing the latest ubuntu and openstack | 04:43 |
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| davidbowlby | then copying over the instance data, but I'm concerned about the controller data getting migrated | 04:43 |
| masber | I see | 04:43 |
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| davidbowlby | maybe I could dd the drives to the magnetic drives I have laying around and run the upgrade on them | 04:44 |
| davidbowlby | then I can just pop in the ssds if it fails and still be ok | 04:44 |
| davidbowlby | if all goes well, dd from mag to ssd | 04:44 |
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| davidbowlby | bit time consuming | 04:44 |
| masber | if you are going to dd, why not just migrate the vms to a new installation? | 04:44 |
| davidbowlby | but, downtime isn't an issue | 04:44 |
| davidbowlby | I don't have extra hardware for anew installation | 04:45 |
| masber | I mean you are already considering copying data from one place to another | 04:45 |
| masber | ok | 04:45 |
| davidbowlby | I have drives tho | 04:45 |
| davidbowlby | this was originally set up on mag and then I boosted it to ssd storage | 04:45 |
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| davidbowlby | so I should have plenty of drives available | 04:46 |
| masber | I guess it all depends how much you controll openstack | 04:46 |
| masber | in my case, every time I change something I ended up breaking it and the only option is to redeploy | 04:46 |
| masber | :( | 04:46 |
| davidbowlby | hehe, that's my fear | 04:46 |
| davidbowlby | especially since I'm so outdated | 04:46 |
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| davidbowlby | but the thought of starting over and re-iping | 04:47 |
| davidbowlby | makes me cringe | 04:47 |
| masber | well the fundamentals are still there and are the most important thing | 04:47 |
| masber | I know that feeling | 04:47 |
| davidbowlby | I backed up all my instances to mass storage | 04:48 |
| davidbowlby | but I'm still scared lol | 04:48 |
| davidbowlby | maybe I'll just DD the controller | 04:49 |
| davidbowlby | do the update there, since it's kinda the most important part | 04:49 |
| davidbowlby | if that goes well, then just try to update a compute node | 04:49 |
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| davidbowlby | masber, thanks for giving me a sounding board to think this out a bit more | 04:55 |
| masber | davidbowlby, my pleasure | 04:55 |
| davidbowlby | I have read some of the update documentation as well, just concerned about the age of my system | 04:55 |
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| neoweb | Ubuntu still where all the work w/ openstack is done? | 05:43 |
| neoweb | Would like to roll an install, and want to start with the best base. | 05:44 |
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| gnuoy | Hi there, I'm experimenting with cells v2 in pike and have added a second cell to an existing deployment. Everything looks in order to me, "openstack hypervisor list" shows the compute in the new cell, "openstack hypervisor show" shows resource info of the compute node. nova_api.cell_mappings table shows the new cell and nova_api.host_mappings shows the new hypervisor has the cell id of the new cell. But, when I boot an instance it never gets scheduled in | 09:09 |
| gnuoy | the new cell. Any ideas how I can debug further? | 09:09 |
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| gnuoy | ok, missing placement section on compute node in new cell. All working now. | 09:42 |
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| Yusuf | Hi, I am currently on Newton release. (I am new to openstack) I am facing the following issue: - Event notifications generated by nova do not show the actual user who initiated the event. It rather shows the VM/object owner. For Example, If a "test-tenant" has two users an admin "test-admin" and a SSO user "test-ssu". If "test-admin" reboots a VM created by "test-ssu", event notification shows "test-admin" rather than "test-ss | 12:15 |
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| bhujay | hi all , from cloudkitty cli i hv created service mapping for compute and flavor id as small . But from cloudkitty total-get or summary-get is showing zero , how to get the rating data from cli ? where is it storing these data with backend = gnocchihybrid | 13:21 |
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| larsks | cxc99: what exactly is failing? | 17:11 |
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| cxc99 | well, i'm trying to launch an instance from a centos cloud image, but it keeps failing. it actually let me create a volume and launch the instance from a volume | 17:15 |
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| larsks | Uploading the image fails? Or booting an instance from the image? Or...? | 17:16 |
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| cxc99 | booting an instance from the image. but i think i may just be running out of memory :| | 17:17 |
| cxc99 | cirrus works fine | 17:17 |
| cxc99 | i only have 12G of ram | 17:18 |
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| larsks | There should be errors in your logs that indicate the reason for the failure. Lack of disk space on the compute nodes can cause something like that, also. | 17:31 |
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| lucidguy | hmm, I can't seem to put a hypervisor into maitenance mode.. Error: The requested functionality is not supported | 20:22 |
| lucidguy | Am I supposed to migrate all vms manually off of the hypervisor? | 20:22 |
| * lucidguy is using Newton | 20:22 | |
| schmots | I do believe you have to manually evacuate the node before maintaince. | 20:23 |
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| neoweb | Would like to roll an install, and want to start with the best base. | 21:02 |
| neoweb | Would like to roll an install, and want to start with the best base.? | 21:02 |
| neoweb | err, ubuntu? | 21:02 |
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| larsks | neoweb: "best" is whatever meets your needs. | 21:07 |
| larsks | If you're already familiar with ubuntu, that is probably a good choice. | 21:07 |
| SamYaple | larsks says ubuntu is better than redhat | 21:08 |
| SamYaple | you all heard him | 21:08 |
| * larsks wacks SamYaple with a trout. | 21:08 | |
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| neoweb | What do most of the dev's use when developing as a base? | 21:13 |
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| SamYaple | neoweb: its split, but i believe the latest user survey showed ubuntu | 21:14 |
| SamYaple | ubuntu or centos are the go-tos | 21:14 |
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| * larsks develops using a linux zone running under solaris on virtualbox on my windows host. | 21:53 | |
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| SamYaple | i mean what else would you use | 22:03 |
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| digitalowl | Hello everyone. Can you tell me about hardcode 'BACKUP' keepalived instance type? When we use HA with two BACKUP nodes we got split brain. | 23:07 |
| digitalowl | Instance type hardcoded at /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/neutron/agent/l3/ha_router.py | 23:08 |
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| SamYaple | digitalowl: when everything is BACKUP this prevents keepalived from needlessly switching the VIP | 23:17 |
| SamYaple | setting BACKUP alone across the board wont cause split brain | 23:18 |
| SamYaple | any situtation where BACKUP causes split-brain, having ACTIVE/BACKUP would also split brain | 23:18 |
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| digitalowl | lol, it's not true. I have two equal keepalived configs on two different network nodes | 23:19 |
| SamYaple | ok well good luck with your issue | 23:19 |
| digitalowl | It's not my issue, dude | 23:19 |
| SamYaple | :) | 23:19 |
| digitalowl | It's default setup by guidelines | 23:19 |
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| digitalowl | Just give me a sec | 23:20 |
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| digitalowl | http://dpaste.com/2CF8128 and http://dpaste.com/2C7F7MB | 23:23 |
| digitalowl | find a difference | 23:23 |
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| digitalowl | It's configs are generated for one HA router on two different network nodes | 23:24 |
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| SamYaple | those... are valid configs and a proper way to configure multiple copies of keepalived | 23:24 |
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| digitalowl | And when i broke vxlan tunnel between two network node - I got two active l3-agent | 23:25 |
| digitalowl | And each netns have identical ip config | 23:25 |
| SamYaple | i dont know what you are looking for here, all of this is behaving as designed. you had a network split, that normally requires some cleanup (ie, restarting keepalived in this case) | 23:26 |
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| digitalowl | Em... I think HA is a High Availability. If one gateway is down - another server get his function. My problem is deeper. Sometimes I got a broken vxlan tunnels, after that I got two active gateways for one network and after all of that I got mac dampening on phisycal network. | 23:29 |
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| digitalowl | Can I configure simple active-backup keepalived in OpenStack or not? | 23:29 |
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| SamYaple | this is a keepalived failing, not an openstack one. this happens all the time with keepalived and network splits. keepalived has no fencing or quorum support built in. even in the situation where you have MASTER (***not active) and BACKUP the ip can be on both keepalived instances after the partition is resolved | 23:31 |
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| SamYaple | resolve your network splits is the solution to this problem | 23:31 |
| digitalowl | Yes and no %) | 23:32 |
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| SamYaple | alrighty, well like i said, i wish you luck solving your (very common operational) problem! | 23:34 |
| digitalowl | For now I have two problems - unstable production with keepalived and strange splits in network (or openvswitch). Splits not affect production, but mac dampening kill all segment. | 23:34 |
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| digitalowl | SamYaple: em... As far as I know MASTER-BACKUP switch roles when signal traffic is gone... | 23:36 |
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| digitalowl | Anyway, thx for your time %) | 23:42 |
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