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| mayala | having an issue with my osa deployment | 01:47 |
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| mayala | was wondering if someone could help | 01:47 |
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| lavakumar | HI guys,I have openstack Kilo , where i am trying to have keepalived running between two servers. I have created virtual port (neutron port-create ) and allowed this ip address to internal port of both servers | 02:54 |
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| lavakumar | i am able to ping the servers using the virtaul IP. but not able to do so using the flaoting ip associated to this Virtual Ip | 02:55 |
| lavakumar | Please help me | 02:55 |
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| masber | good morning, I am having an issue where I am not able to assign a floating ip to a server, this is the log file from neutron server http://paste.openstack.org/raw/615969/ I was wondering if anyone has any idea? | 04:00 |
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| bbansal_ | hello all | 04:18 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | bbansal__: Hi | 04:36 |
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| sanfern | my devstack setup is throwing following exception - http://paste.openstack.org/show/oyu2x3hhVfdgAbdU98b8/ | 05:18 |
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| Abhishek | Hi..i am facing "Internal Server Error" when trying to list my network using command "neutron net-list" | 07:28 |
| Abhishek | neutron net-list neutron CLI is deprecated and will be removed in the future. Use openstack CLI instead. Request Failed: internal server error while processing your request. Neutron server returns request_ids: ['req-dd6def8c-afef-49c8-a060-4994baab2fd4'] | 07:28 |
| Abhishek | can anyone please suggest | 07:29 |
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| Neepu | Anyone mind explaining me how i can reduce the latency of horizon? | 07:29 |
| Neepu | http://imgur.com/a/QhNGy | 07:29 |
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| masber | Neepu, what is your environment? | 07:56 |
| Neepu | @masber, i've figgured it out now :-) | 07:57 |
| Neepu | apparantly got 56 workers running on a AIO install | 07:57 |
| Neepu | a tad to much | 07:57 |
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| Neepu | But still wonder what the best approach is to adjust the number of workers | 07:59 |
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| Neepu | rather than manually changing .conf files for numerous services | 08:00 |
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| masber | Neepu, what do you mean by "workers"? | 08:06 |
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| rnoriega | andreaf, ping | 09:30 |
| andreaf | rnoriega: pong | 09:30 |
| kysse | andreaf: ping | 09:30 |
| andreaf | what's up? | 09:30 |
| rnoriega | andreaf, hi! I'm seeing puppet scenario003 failing as follows: | 09:30 |
| kysse | everything but mongodb | 09:31 |
| rnoriega | andreaf, http://logs.openstack.org/48/483648/1/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario003-tempest-centos-7/603486a/console.html#_2017-07-20_03_28_24_346278 | 09:31 |
| rnoriega | andreaf, and I saw this msg in the code: # NOTE(andreaf) The orchestration client is not initialised in Tempest by default anymore | 09:31 |
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| andreaf | rnoriega: yay, we fixed that in murano already, but the puppet3 job won't be fixed until there's a CI promotion for murano | 09:32 |
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| andreaf | rnoriega: since murano is not installed from source but from package in that job | 09:32 |
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| rnoriega | andreaf, I see, but the weirdo pipeline will take non-promoted RPMs...right? | 09:33 |
| rnoriega | andreaf, that's why I'm surprised | 09:33 |
| andreaf | rnoriega: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/murano+branch:master+topic:fix_orchestration_client | 09:33 |
| andreaf | rnoriega: I'm not very familiar with the pipeline there - EmilienM should be able to explain that better than me | 09:34 |
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| rnoriega | andreaf, ok! no prob. Glad to see it's already fixed... Thanks | 09:34 |
| rnoriega | :) | 09:34 |
| andreaf | kysse: not sure what you mean? | 09:35 |
| kysse | bah, nothing. Just a joke. | 09:35 |
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| openwhy | Hi, I need help | 09:48 |
| openwhy | I have a commit and i'm interesting mergo into community | 09:48 |
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| c06 | openwhy: nice. check this one https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/quickstart/first-timers.html | 09:50 |
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| openwhy | What is de doc repository? | 09:59 |
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| openwhy | What is the documentation repository? | 10:00 |
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| c06 | openwhy: might be used for openstack documentation(guides-manuals) | 10:03 |
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| vharsh | Hi, nova-console service is down in my running-devstack. Here's the logs https://gist.github.com/vharsh/9d11c3150d7681074497eb3a626e53f5#file-nova-service-list-txt | 10:04 |
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| openwhy | I want push commit in https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/networking/v2 | 10:06 |
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| c06 | openwhy: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/doc-bugs.html | 10:07 |
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| c06 | try there itself it have everything | 10:07 |
| c06 | vharsh: check nova-* logs | 10:08 |
| vharsh | c06, I can't find it. | 10:08 |
| c06 | logs or error line.?? | 10:09 |
| vharsh | c06, It's not there in /opt/stack/logs/ | 10:09 |
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| c06 | vharsh: https://docs.openstack.org/devstack/latest/configuration.html -> refer this one journelctl | 10:11 |
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| vharsh | c06, I see lots of lines DEBUG oslo_service.periodic_task Didn't find any instances for network info cache update. | 10:14 |
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| c06 | vharsh: u have to find logs for nova-console down error | 10:14 |
| vharsh | c06, Jul 20 08:41:15 vagrant devstack@n-api.service[922]: DEBUG nova.servicegroup.drivers.db [None req-915bf72b-1325-4dce-affa-93dac4c4cc82 demo admin] Seems service nova-console on host vagrant is down. Last heartbeat was 2017-07-18 09:06:33. Elapsed time is 171282.180219 {{(pid=1649) is_up /opt/stack/nova/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py:79}} | 10:16 |
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| c06 | nice. start the service again and check the logs | 10:19 |
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| vharsh | c06, I have restarted devstack@n-api.service , devstack@n-api-meta.service , devstack@n-cpu.service | 10:21 |
| * vharsh restarts every service that has an "n" | 10:23 | |
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| c06 | vharsh: u enabled vnc in your local.conf.? currently i am not having devstack in my box so i cant say exactly dude. sorry | 10:25 |
| vharsh | c06, http://dpaste.com/0QMKVD2 | 10:26 |
| vharsh | c06, I have no idea as to why I even need vnc. | 10:26 |
| c06 | vharsh: ENABLED_SERVICES+=,n-api,n-crt,n-obj,n-cpu,n-cond,n-sch,n-novnc,n-cauth | 10:27 |
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| vharsh | c06, I have most of them already in that environment variable | 10:30 |
| c06 | vharsh: try to see the log file without information its difficult to say why its down | 10:31 |
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| vharsh | c06, Should I restart my vagrant-box? So that I'll have fewer logs to read? | 10:32 |
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| c06 | vharsh: i dont think so if u restart all services will work fine. just hit and try. haven't touched the devstack for so many days dude. | 10:34 |
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| vharsh | c06, Ok, thanks. I am restarting my vagrant-box. | 10:35 |
| c06 | ok dude all the best. :) | 10:35 |
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| vharsh | 3915 line :/ | 10:43 |
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| c06 | use pastebin or similar tools for sharing error(logs) | 10:44 |
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| vharsh | c06, hmm, I have only grepped the nova-console stuff http://dpaste.com/37A0BBE | 10:45 |
| vharsh | 3915 lines are too much for dpaste.com 's API :/ | 10:45 |
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| c06 | vharsh: check for errors | 10:48 |
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| vharsh | c06, Okay I have the full logs now. https://gist.github.com/vharsh/d558cc4f03c9521070e9eafc415f8d31 | 10:49 |
| vharsh | Looking for the word "error" | 10:49 |
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| vharsh | https://dpaste.de/RycA There was a divide_by_zero | 10:53 |
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| vharsh | I found some publish_errors in oslo_service.service | 10:54 |
| c06 | vharsh: i dont think that is related to this, you just launch vm and try to access if you face any issue that time debug it will be netter | 10:55 |
| c06 | **better | 10:55 |
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| vharsh | c06, How can I launch instances via cli. I'll atleast get an error-return code. | 10:55 |
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| vharsh | I can't figure out by googling, openstack docs from google are getting redirected to docs home page. | 10:56 |
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| vharsh | c06, Some other commands I have tried https://gist.github.com/vharsh/9d11c3150d7681074497eb3a626e53f5 | 10:57 |
| c06 | vharsh: yes harsh bfr some days they told "reorganizing going like that" | 10:57 |
| c06 | vharsh: openstack server create | 10:57 |
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| vharsh | c06, It's building perhaps, gave a verbose table. | 11:02 |
| vharsh | I ran `openstack server create meow --flavor m1.nano --image cirros-0.3.5-x86_64-disk` | 11:03 |
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| c06 | vharsh: first time your are using devstack(openstack), or you have any experience | 11:03 |
| vharsh | c06, First time. | 11:03 |
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| vharsh | I am actually taking Edx's course on parallel. | 11:04 |
| c06 | vharsh: welcome, it have information about VM (meow) which you created | 11:04 |
| c06 | vharsh: kindly tell your level before sharing the error. My suggestion is you explore the openstack components and how its working. | 11:05 |
| vharsh | c06, I am a beginner, been using vagrant boxes since 4 months and linux since 2 years. I am in college right now. | 11:07 |
| c06 | ok dude you can learn more in openstack you explore the components and their functionality | 11:07 |
| vharsh | c06, Okay, I'll stick to the course for now. | 11:07 |
| vharsh | I just have some theoretical knowledge on Openstack. I will be playing with the identitiy API soon. | 11:08 |
| c06 | vharsh: nice and all the best.. :) | 11:08 |
| vharsh | c06, Thanks for helping me :) | 11:09 |
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| c06 | vharsh: always welcome dude.. :) | 11:11 |
| vharsh | c06, Woah, I have a running meow :) | 11:11 |
| vharsh | I have no idea why & where it is running :D | 11:11 |
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| c06 | vharsh: check following topics if interested, virtualization, hypervisor, libvirt | 11:12 |
| vharsh | c06, Mine isn't running on libvirt | 11:12 |
| vharsh | Sure, which resources should I prefer over others? | 11:12 |
| c06 | vharsh: ?? i unable to get>? | 11:13 |
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| exarr | Hi. I'm just gonna ask about the architecture of a deployment in an multi-site "provider" environment and hope someone can offer some advice :-) | 11:17 |
| exarr | 1) If in a multi-site setup, should the network and subnets be shared across all compute nodes in all sites, or should I (have I) to restrict them to specific sites? | 11:17 |
| exarr | (I get a touch confused given this configuration as regards to network tunneling between the sites) | 11:17 |
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| vharsh | c06, [difficult question] Internet has too many resources, which resource should I prefer over the other? | 11:19 |
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| c06 | .. vharsh: docs.openstack.org and also wikipedia | 11:27 |
| vharsh | c06, Ok :) thanks | 11:27 |
| c06 | np | 11:27 |
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| ccard | When I do "nova show <server>", one of the fields returned is status, which might have a value like ACTIVE. Which bit of code populates this field, and what possible values can it take? | 15:20 |
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| larsks | ccard: I think possible values are https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/vm_states.py | 15:51 |
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| larsks | As to "which bit of code", looks like mostly nova/compute/manager.py | 15:52 |
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| ccard | larsks: thanks, I think I found what I was looking for in nova/api/openstack/common.py, the _STATE_MAP and status_from_state() function. | 16:15 |
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| G3nka1 | Hey guys I had an architectural doubt is anyone around? | 18:15 |
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| mrjk_ | Hi | 18:21 |
| mrjk_ | I was wondering, any good documentation to explain what does --reset-state generally do ? I'd like to understand the impact of a such command (cinder, nova, etc ...) | 18:22 |
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| georgem1 | mrjk_: afaik, it just changes the status in DB | 18:26 |
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| blizzow | I'm trying to use fuel to deploy an openstack test. I want to use only two LANS. 172.16.1.X(Public) and 10.0.0.X(storage and management)... is this possible? Fuel is complaining about the public and admin networks being on the same segment. | 18:40 |
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| mrjk_ | georgem1, thks, buts there is no other impacts? i mean some tutorial ask to do that, so I guess it does more things than that, right ? | 18:44 |
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| georgem1 | mrjk_: nope, it allows you to retry the operation that failed for whatever reason, otherwise the API will just fail to execute the command because the error state | 18:45 |
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| georgem1 | mrjk_: imagine you try to detach a volume but the cinder-volume is down or it cannot talk to ceph, for example; the volume will be stuck in "detaching" state and unless you reset its state and retry after the fixing the root cause, there is nothing you can do | 18:47 |
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| mrjk_ | georgem1, hmm, yeah, got it, thank you very much :) | 18:53 |
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| tapoxi | hi everyone, I'm trying to understand tripleo. is it simply to make management easier at the expense of RAM consumption on the controller? | 19:00 |
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| jidar | tapoxi: tripleo in many cases has nothing to do with the controller, it's what is used to deploy openstack itself. | 19:25 |
| jidar | think of having to deploy 100 servers to make up a openstack install, you'd want a template for how each server is goign to look and a PXE system to boot them, etc. That's what tripleo does, gives you the tools to do that install | 19:26 |
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| jangutter | tapoxi: in the same way you can use heat to deploy a cloud application, you use tripleo to deploy a cloud on a set of machines (virtual or physical). | 19:27 |
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| tapoxi | jangutter: sorry, I mean that if I install tripleo on a machine I want to be the controller, then can it install/configure the controller on itself or should I designate another machine for tripleo? | 19:29 |
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| jangutter | tapoxi: It was definitely not designed for that. The "undercloud" node running tripleo wants to be on its own node, or inside a VM, and I've only used it in dedicated mode. | 19:32 |
| jangutter | tapoxi: tripleo is generally running _outside_ of the cloud you deploy. | 19:33 |
| tapoxi | jangutter: ahh, thanks. | 19:33 |
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| Onionnion | I have a spare server at work that I'd like to use as a personal cloud for virtualization and storage and such, is Openstack a good option for this? | 21:11 |
| Onionnion | its specs are overkill although I only have the one machine | 21:12 |
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| Onionnion | or should I just stick with vmware ESXi? | 21:12 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion ESXi means additional costs | 21:14 |
| Onionnion | It's available for free unless you mean it's not open source | 21:14 |
| gheorghe_ | it depends what you want to do... for "personal cloud for virtualization or storage" will not work on 1 server, no matter what technology you use | 21:14 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion esx is available for free use if you don't use it for prod :) aka not making money with it | 21:14 |
| Onionnion | ahh | 21:15 |
| gheorghe_ | i what do you want to do? in more details | 21:15 |
| gheorghe_ | for 1 server, overstack is overkill, ESXi is kind of booring. i would honestly use an ubuntu or a debian with qemu, and that's it. | 21:15 |
| Onionnion | I'd like to use it as a virt host for things like labbing (GNS3 or VIRL servers) and web hosting such as Fedora VMs | 21:16 |
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| gheorghe_ | ok, how much proc/ram does your server have? | 21:16 |
| Onionnion | too much haha | 21:16 |
| Onionnion | 256GB RAM, 2x Processors | 21:16 |
| gheorghe_ | how many cores? | 21:17 |
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| Onionnion | I'm seeing 40 but that's with hyperthreading on | 21:17 |
| Onionnion | total between the processors | 21:17 |
| gheorghe_ | ok so it's balanced, that is good | 21:18 |
| gheorghe_ | i mean you have good ram and also enough cores | 21:18 |
| gheorghe_ | how much storage do you have on it? | 21:18 |
| Onionnion | 7.5TB of RAID6 | 21:18 |
| Onionnion | with SSD caching | 21:18 |
| gheorghe_ | good, so enough storage | 21:18 |
| gheorghe_ | so, you could do an openstack lab on it, but i suggest to NOT do it on bare metal | 21:18 |
| Onionnion | it's an overkill setup, only because I can from all the spares we have right now | 21:18 |
| Onionnion | why's that? | 21:19 |
| gheorghe_ | meaning that you should run a centos/debina/arch/fedora/ubuntu/whatever on bare metal .... | 21:19 |
| gheorghe_ | and create like 10 VMs for an openstack test | 21:19 |
| Onionnion | right now it's centos on bare metal with openstack on top of that | 21:19 |
| Onionnion | ah different VMs for nodes? | 21:19 |
| gheorghe_ | you will NOT be able to use ESXi for that monster, since the free version is has limitted number of cores :) | 21:19 |
| gheorghe_ | did you ever use vCenter? | 21:20 |
| gheorghe_ | since you are vmware fanboy :D | 21:20 |
| gheorghe_ | vcenter, orchestrator, nsx ? | 21:20 |
| gheorghe_ | and san storage (like EMC, for example) ? | 21:20 |
| Onionnion | not a vmware fanboy, it's just what my company uses mostly | 21:21 |
| gheorghe_ | good | 21:21 |
| Onionnion | I've used vsphere/esxi a little but not enough to call myself fluent | 21:21 |
| Onionnion | I'm mostly familiar kvm with qemu atm | 21:21 |
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| gheorghe_ | so think about it this way: openstack = esxi + vcenter + san + NSX + orchestrator + portal for customers + everything you want. | 21:21 |
| gheorghe_ | do you need all that on ONE server? | 21:21 |
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| Onionnion | yikes | 21:22 |
| gheorghe_ | i don't feel you need a cloud infrastructure for ONE server. you can use a hypervizor. and unless you want to pay (considering the 40 cores), you can do a KVM on bare metal | 21:22 |
| gheorghe_ | i mean you could add openstack on top of that but it's overkill | 21:22 |
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| gheorghe_ | i would honestly install an ubuntu with graphical interface and virt-manager | 21:22 |
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| Onionnion | yeah, I suppose if anything just wanting to make it easier than all from scratch with commandline | 21:23 |
| gheorghe_ | or even without, ubuntu server or fedora server and remote with virt-manager... or ssh and virsh if you knwo good linux | 21:23 |
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| gheorghe_ | virt-manager is great for that | 21:23 |
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| Onionnion | I've done a lot of virsh but that doesn't mean I like it | 21:23 |
| Onionnion | In the meantime, I have done RDO's install of OpenStack, and while it works the web portal is super slow for me | 21:23 |
| Onionnion | that being this https://www.rdoproject.org/install/packstack/ | 21:24 |
| gheorghe_ | on my home desktop i have 8 cores and 32 gb ram ... and like 10-12 vms. and openstack on the VMs ... but the desktop is also used for browsing, video games and so on | 21:24 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am not a big fan of allinone solutions. this runs similar to devstack, right? | 21:25 |
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| Onionnion | I'm not sure | 21:25 |
| Onionnion | it says "proof of concept" | 21:25 |
| Onionnion | for a simple setup on centos/rhel | 21:26 |
| gheorghe_ | take this to your CEO. will he approve it for prod? :D | 21:26 |
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| Onionnion | heh no | 21:26 |
| gheorghe_ | my point exactly | 21:26 |
| gheorghe_ | at work we have 3 servers in a datacenter and they will be probably populated with openstack. but there are 3 servers. so it makes sence to have an iscsi target, to cluster the services... | 21:26 |
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| gheorghe_ | i also need to do a proof of concept for openstack so we can deliver cloud based on it, but it needs multiple hypervizors, clustered services, clustered database, shared storage (fail-safe), switches, routers, backups, monitoring, virtual networks. for this, openstack is by far the best solution out there | 21:27 |
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| Onionnion | how well does virt-manager do networking? | 21:28 |
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| Onionnion | hmm nvm dumb question | 21:28 |
| Onionnion | so either I can OpenStack across multiple VMs if I want the fancy web ui and all | 21:29 |
| gheorghe_ | HOWEVER, if you just have one server, you don't need that. you don't need cinder to admin your shared storage (you don't have such). you don't need neutron to isolate virtual networks over multiple servers for different customers (it's for internal use) ... you don't need rabbitmq or mariadb for the services (no load so message queue not required, low number of services so DB not required) ... and so on | 21:29 |
| Onionnion | or just kvm like normal | 21:29 |
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| gheorghe_ | regarding how well virt-manager does networking, we can have a detailed chat about qemu networking on debian/ubuntu, if you want. it should be similar on redhat. but my home environment is debian | 21:30 |
| Onionnion | yeah it is, I'm just familiar with setting up bridges and such from scratch | 21:30 |
| Onionnion | I'd likely do this with CentOS 7 | 21:31 |
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| Onionnion | Fedora is my distro of choice for personal use but I need stability | 21:31 |
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| gheorghe_ | you don't need to go that far. there is GUI within virt-manager which allows you to create networks ... and you can decide if they are bridge or nat or isolated or whatever ... | 21:31 |
| Onionnion | ahh neat | 21:31 |
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| gheorghe_ | do you have RHCE ? training, not exam | 21:33 |
| gheorghe_ | virt-manager is easier than bridge setup within RHCE :D | 21:33 |
| blizzow | I'm trying to get openstack installed with two LANs. One for storage and one for management/VM access. I don't want neutron or to break out a bunch of VLANs. All of my hypervisors have two NICs. Each NIC is plugged into a separate switch. Is this possible? | 21:33 |
| Onionnion | looking into it, ESXi free version only limits to 2 physical CPUs, no limit on cores or memory, and limits 8 logical cores to VMs | 21:33 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion i know. i have 500 ESXis at work ... | 21:34 |
| Onionnion | I do not have anything Red Hat training, just a lot of experience with EL and a friend who works at Red Hat | 21:34 |
| gheorghe_ | believe me, i know ... :( | 21:34 |
| gheorghe_ | than i have the perfect tutorial for you, onionnion ... if you want to spent 1 month of your life to learn openstack | 21:34 |
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| gheorghe_ | https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ocata/rdo-services.html | 21:34 |
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| gheorghe_ | works on centos & redhat :D | 21:35 |
| Onionnion | hah, that'd be an undertaking I may consider after I pass my next exam hopefully next week | 21:35 |
| Onionnion | for CCNA | 21:35 |
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| gheorghe_ | this is the equivalent of vcenter + multiple hosts + SAN + NSX. but for openstack this is not considered "prod", this is considered "lab". openstack has far better clustering capabilities than vCenter, and is better for production use. but a lab with 4-5 VMs is a great place to start. i have 6 vms in my openstack lab.... and about 30 nested VMs with multiple networks | 21:36 |
| gheorghe_ | how far down the road are you with CCNA ? | 21:36 |
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| gheorghe_ | blizzow yes, it is possible. you should check network configuration according to your release. also check out capabilities of openvswitch vs linuxbridge. | 21:37 |
| robellison | hi all, how do people deal with separation of the ceph client networks and the public networks? all the reference architecutres i've seen dont look very secure | 21:37 |
| Onionnion | gheorghe_: hopefully just a week away assuming I pass my first attempt at ICND2 | 21:37 |
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| robellison | i.e. glance seems to need to be on both public and ceph-client | 21:38 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion i mean ccna has 4 modules AFAIK... how many did you get? | 21:38 |
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| Onionnion | CCNA is 2 exams | 21:38 |
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| gheorghe_ | no ideea why my colleagues have 4 :D | 21:38 |
| Onionnion | or 1 exam if you take the composite | 21:38 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am not a network guy, i am the vmware/linux guy. and sadly i do too much windows at work. that shit is destroying my spirit | 21:39 |
| Onionnion | unless you mean the different types of CCNA | 21:39 |
| Onionnion | such as security, data center, r&s, etc | 21:39 |
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| Onionnion | I'm trying to go into networking as my career, grew up with Linux thoug | 21:39 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow if you want we can go through your network configuraiton together, if you find me online. but what you want is 100% possible, with multiple different configurations | 21:39 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion than you will love to deploy openstack. the network part under openstack is pure genius | 21:40 |
| Onionnion | it looks great | 21:40 |
| Onionnion | from the little I've seen | 21:40 |
| blizzow | gheorghe_: I'm using ubuntu 16.04. I typically set up my NICs as bridges. If a VM needs access to the storage layer, it gets a second network card using the second bridge added to it. | 21:41 |
| Onionnion | RDO just doesn't run very well on this right now for some reason | 21:41 |
| Onionnion | as-in Horizon is slooooow | 21:42 |
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| gheorghe_ | blizzow i can show you my config if you want, cause i am on 16.04 with my home lab... but there are multiple ways to do this | 21:42 |
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| blizzow | gheorghe_: did you deploy using fuel/juju/by hand? | 21:42 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow do you want to use provider (FLAT/physical) or selfserviced (VXLAN/GRE/virtual) network? | 21:42 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow i deployed by hand, following openstack docs | 21:43 |
| blizzow | gheorghe_: I'd prefer to use a flat network. | 21:43 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow flat network is easy to configure. so you want 1 nic for management and 1 for VMs ? | 21:43 |
| blizzow | yup. | 21:43 |
| gheorghe_ | one sec, i will give you docs and an example from my config | 21:43 |
| blizzow | thanks. | 21:43 |
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| gheorghe_ | are you on cata, blizzow ? | 21:44 |
| gheorghe_ | *ocata | 21:44 |
| blizzow | gheorghe_: I haven't installed it by hand. I had been trying to use fuel and getting crushed. | 21:44 |
| blizzow | I will use the latest version for my installation though. | 21:44 |
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| Onionnion | gheorghe_: any opinion on Ovirt? | 21:45 |
| gheorghe_ | i never uses fuel :( but hopefully my suggestions will help | 21:46 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion oVirt is the testing version of RHEV-M, the redhat project that was a big fail and is currently getting dropped for openstack. if you want something linux-like and vcenter-like, go for proxmox... but tbh i would go for pure qemu-kvm + virt-manager for one host, or openstack for multiple hosts | 21:47 |
| Onionnion | ahh | 21:47 |
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| gheorghe_ | blizzow, this is what you want to do: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-ubuntu/environment-networking.html | 21:48 |
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| Onionnion | tbh what I'd personally like most is something vcenter-like | 21:49 |
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| Onionnion | just for ease, but it may just be me wanting to take a break from commandline | 21:49 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion: vcenter is for wannabes. no offence, but SCVMM and vCenter are solutions for wannabe engineers. limitted but work well out of the box. next next next install play. :D you pay lots of money to not spend 1 week to configure your opnestack. | 21:50 |
| Onionnion | SCVMM? | 21:50 |
| gheorghe_ | windows vcenter replica | 21:50 |
| Onionnion | ah | 21:50 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow: docs regarding network configs: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-ubuntu/environment-networking-compute.html | 21:51 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow: my working config for ubuntu kvm hosts using ocata openstack: https://paste.gnome.org/pku8gdyxo ... here ens3 is management end ens8 is for VMs | 21:52 |
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| gheorghe_ | blizzow: sample config for what you want, provided by openstack: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-ubuntu/neutron-compute-install.html (this is general config for neutron compute) and https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-ubuntu/neutron-compute-install-option1.html (this is configuration for flat networks, what you want) | 21:54 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow: take into consideration this is using linuxbridge. configuration for openvswitch will be similar, but different | 21:54 |
| gheorghe_ | blizzow: i suggest taking a few days, reading these files, checking your config and adjusting your environment to your requirements | 21:54 |
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| blizzow | gheorghe_: I don't see any bridge in the network config you pastebinned. | 21:55 |
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| blizzow | oh, never mind, I see that that's your VM network interface. | 21:55 |
| gheorghe_ | you specify it within /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/linuxbridge_agent.ini | 21:55 |
| gheorghe_ | neutron will use that interface as a slave | 21:55 |
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| gheorghe_ | root@kvm-01:~# cat /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/linuxbridge_agent.ini | grep ens8 | 21:56 |
| gheorghe_ | physical_interface_mappings = provider:ens8 | 21:56 |
| blizzow | okay. I'm going to have to go over this again. It's been a while since I was trying to use openstack. | 21:57 |
| gheorghe_ | i specified the ens8 network within the linuxbridge_agent.init conf file, and it will know to use it. just as suggested within openstack guides | 21:57 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion if you really want something out of the box try proxmox ... or install debian 9 with gnome 3 interface and to "apt install virt-manager" and you get everything | 21:59 |
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| Onionnion | hmm I'll try the virt-manager | 22:01 |
| Onionnion | after a fresh reinstall of centos | 22:02 |
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| gheorghe_ | should work equally well, but never tried it since i am a debian fan-boy. and redhat certified. :)) | 22:02 |
| Onionnion | centos is essentially red hat but fre | 22:03 |
| Onionnion | free | 22:03 |
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| Onionnion | updates to red hat trickle into centos | 22:04 |
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| Onionnion | Rawhide -> Fedora -> RHEL -> CentOS | 22:04 |
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| gheorghe_ | i know man. i do all tests at work for centos. i need to test before running in prod and all tests are run on centos :D | 22:04 |
| gheorghe_ | we have redhat in prod | 22:04 |
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| Onionnion | ahh | 22:05 |
| gheorghe_ | also i did some training for redhat exams on centos. but that doesn't work that well since you also have LDAP on redhat and is not available on centos | 22:05 |
| gheorghe_ | :( | 22:05 |
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| gheorghe_ | robellison: you can separate storage network from other traffic if that is what you mean. i suggest also asking on the cinder and ceph channels. i can show you config with iscsi target and cinder, but i don't use ceph. also ask again on this channel since my chat with the others made your question dissapear | 22:06 |
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| Onionnion | man Horizon is soooo nice | 22:06 |
| Onionnion | it's just super slow on here | 22:06 |
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| gheorghe_ | robellison for iscsi target the secret was to add entries within /etc/hosts for the target, so that the storage IP gets used :D | 22:07 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion: horzion would be even better, if patch 11.0.3 would be available on my repos. i just have 11.0.2 and i can't deploy VMs with volumes for horizon since it's bugged :D and i am waiting for ubuntu to publish the package :D | 22:09 |
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| Onionnion | hmm maybe I will try doing openstack over multiple VMs.. | 22:09 |
| Onionnion | just for the hell of it | 22:09 |
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| Onionnion | well I can try it at least anyway with virt-manager | 22:10 |
| Onionnion | inside its own virtualized network even | 22:11 |
| gheorghe_ | if you don't do it over multiple vms, you learn very little and you don't profit from the beauty of openstack | 22:11 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion you can do multiple virtualized networks with qemu | 22:11 |
| Onionnion | yup | 22:12 |
| gheorghe_ | do you have linkedin? | 22:12 |
| Onionnion | yes although I never touch it | 22:12 |
| gheorghe_ | http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/3fafb4bc-ee05-45b0-aad7-17909c1b1e05-original.png | 22:12 |
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| Onionnion | oy that's sexy | 22:13 |
| gheorghe_ | here is link to the post: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6287051040529485824/ | 22:13 |
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| Onionnion | sexy | 22:16 |
| Onionnion | ok I think I will try that once I'm done with my CCNA to learn for fun | 22:16 |
| Onionnion | tbh my first order of business is to migrate off of cloud services so no more $ being spent | 22:16 |
| Onionnion | mostly my very popular website on my web server | 22:17 |
| Onionnion | at https://breaker.rocks | 22:17 |
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| gheorghe_ | Onionnion you can create multiple networks with virt-manager for your openstack lab. here is output using virsh (since i can paste for virt-manager). https://paste.gnome.org/pjz1g2d9y | 22:18 |
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| gheorghe_ | these are the networks on my lab at home... 3 networks. and also physical (192.168.0.0/24) | 22:18 |
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| gheorghe_ | when you add the nat flag it will also add entries to iptables for postrouting with masquarade... | 22:19 |
| gheorghe_ | and of course give your host ip in the network so you can connect | 22:19 |
| gheorghe_ | ;) | 22:19 |
| Onionnion | ooo sexy | 22:21 |
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| Onionnion | I may also be able to connect this to 10G fiber too | 22:22 |
| Onionnion | once someone from a different site sends me a part | 22:22 |
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| gheorghe_ | what company do you work for? | 22:22 |
| gheorghe_ | they seem to take good care of you :D | 22:22 |
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| Onionnion | TierPoint | 22:23 |
| Onionnion | we're just having fun with spare hardware when it's slow at my site | 22:23 |
| Onionnion | I'm a tech at a colo data center | 22:24 |
| gheorghe_ | oh you are Ryan Breaker :)) | 22:25 |
| gheorghe_ | sorry if that was not supposed to go public | 22:25 |
| Onionnion | eh my alias on here ties to that around anyway | 22:26 |
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| Onionnion | someone could figure that out with a google | 22:26 |
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| Onionnion | one thing I'm wondering right now is the best way to secure this, because this machine right now is directly on the internet in its own little /27 | 22:27 |
| Onionnion | no firewall, just a L3 switch in the way | 22:27 |
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| gheorghe_ | selinux and firewall, redhat fanboy :D | 22:28 |
| Onionnion | true true | 22:28 |
| Onionnion | I'll set the default security profile on install on this next fresh reinstall | 22:28 |
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| gheorghe_ | and move the ssh off 22 | 22:29 |
| Onionnion | 23, got it | 22:29 |
| gheorghe_ | also add selinux policy to allow ssh on a different port | 22:29 |
| gheorghe_ | add better something like 13211 | 22:29 |
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| Onionnion | hmm I don't have much more time at work tonight so I wonder if I should try setting up a VPN on the switch, or if I can even do that | 22:30 |
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| Onionnion | Cisco L3 switch so it's what I'm learning with for my certifications and all | 22:30 |
| gheorghe_ | asa can do vpn, but no ideea if cisco l3 can | 22:30 |
| gheorghe_ | but asa can do a lot | 22:30 |
| Onionnion | it can, but not much | 22:31 |
| Onionnion | like it can make a GRE tunnel but not much else | 22:31 |
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| Onionnion | Cisco is phasing out ASAs anyway | 22:31 |
| Onionnion | EoS soon | 22:31 |
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| gheorghe_ | i am trying to stay away from cisco tbh ... i have too much to learn on linux side | 22:31 |
| Onionnion | tbh I prefer Juniper | 22:32 |
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| gheorghe_ | i heard a lot but never touched one. | 22:32 |
| Onionnion | but TP is in bed with Cisco so I have no choice :P | 22:32 |
| gheorghe_ | no worries, my company got scammed by vmware. it can get worse than having cisco, | 22:32 |
| cburgess | scammed by vmware? Sorry just curious about that statement. | 22:33 |
| gheorghe_ | we can move that to private if you want ^^ | 22:33 |
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| cburgess | I have no vested interested either way, I do work for or with vmware in any capacity but its a curious statement to me is all. | 22:33 |
| cburgess | Sorry I do not... | 22:33 |
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| gheorghe_ | yea but this is a public chat. my linkedin profile is also public. i am trying to not get fired :)) | 22:34 |
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| Onionnion | heh | 22:45 |
| Onionnion | I like Cisco | 22:45 |
| Onionnion | they have problems | 22:45 |
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| Onionnion | we're vocal about it | 22:46 |
| Onionnion | they ignore a lot of it | 22:46 |
| Onionnion | but Cisco still has its advantages | 22:46 |
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| Onionnion | I should really not have this server's IPMI on the internet | 22:46 |
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| gheorghe_ | yea, like switches and routers that don't fail underload | 22:46 |
| Onionnion | what Cisco is playing catchup on is simplifying their software | 22:47 |
| gheorghe_ | yes, having the ipmi on the internet or the iLO or the CIMC on the internet will probably get you hacked. | 22:47 |
| Saad_off | Onionnion: u can use xenserver | 22:47 |
| Onionnion | there are many different builds of IOS and it's a frustrating mess | 22:47 |
| Onionnion | the plans are that they're consolidating everything finally with IOS 16 | 22:47 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad_off is xenserver free for prod? | 22:48 |
| Onionnion | rather than there being IOS, IOS-XR, IOS-XE, IOS Nexus, etc etc etc | 22:48 |
| Saad_off | yes it is | 22:48 |
| Saad_off | I ve got 2 running well | 22:48 |
| Onionnion | IOS-XE is the best rn tbh | 22:48 |
| Onionnion | xenserver, never touched it | 22:48 |
| Saad_off | I couldn't setup HA yet, but I know is possible | 22:48 |
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| gheorghe_ | Saad_off what is the advantage of xen over qemu? and how good is the integration with openstack, neutron, cinder, swift and so on? | 22:49 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad_off sorry for spam questions but i don't know much about xen and i am curious | 22:49 |
| Saad | gheorghe_: I haven't test this integrations yet | 22:49 |
| Onionnion | a Xen is an open source Type 1 hypervisor | 22:49 |
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| Onionnion | supported by the Linux Foundation, much like KVM | 22:50 |
| Saad | I'm planning to do from 2 weeks time | 22:50 |
| Onionnion | so same people/orgs, just Type 1 vs Type 2 | 22:50 |
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| gheorghe_ | Saad i used mostly ESXi and KVM ... i always found xenserver to be a dying technology that only AWS uses :D | 22:50 |
| Saad | Citrix sells xenserver support | 22:50 |
| Saad | gheorghe_: I had used few times, than I got this job and they had Xen Culture, I just learn how to like ha | 22:51 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad but if you can convince me on the advantages of xen, i might try it out in the lab. | 22:51 |
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| Saad | Free for prod | 22:51 |
| gheorghe_ | advantages vs KVM | 22:52 |
| gheorghe_ | and vs qemu | 22:52 |
| Saad | U can setup a cloudinit CoreOS for docker and control the container from the gui | 22:52 |
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| Saad | gheorghe_: I dont have this knowledge yet. I'll be doing some tests in 2 weeks time | 22:53 |
| Onionnion | Saad: type 1 vs type 2 hypervisor seems to be the only real big difference | 22:53 |
| Onionnion | I mean gheorghe_ ^ | 22:53 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion they are both type 1 :) | 22:53 |
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| Saad | gheorghe_: I'll be testing some hypervisors, when I get a good comparing data I let u know | 22:56 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad do you have any linkedin/facebook so i can bug you with questions once you can brind a good comparison? | 22:56 |
| Saad | sure | 22:56 |
| Saad | I sent u PM | 22:57 |
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| Saad | I'm actually in this channel cuz I'm wondering if openstack is a good choice for my prod or not | 22:58 |
| gheorghe_ | what are you comparing openstack with? | 22:58 |
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| Saad | gheorghe_: I haven't seen it working yet | 23:00 |
| gheorghe_ | :D | 23:00 |
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| gheorghe_ | i mean, what alternatives do you have? OnApp? vmware? azure? which way is your company willing to go? | 23:01 |
| Saad | XenServer | 23:01 |
| Saad | haha | 23:01 |
| gheorghe_ | :)) | 23:01 |
| Saad | My company is a non-it company | 23:01 |
| Saad | They have a Access Database, just to u know what I'm in hahaha | 23:02 |
| gheorghe_ | for openstack you need to buy support or to get 3 good guys (at least). cause if one gets sick and the other is in greece swimming, you need at least 1 good linux guy to know the ifnrastructure well | 23:02 |
| gheorghe_ | training for vcenter takes 1 month. training for openstack takes a bit more | 23:03 |
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| Saad | I just purchased a new server for prod, and I'm migrating the VMS for the new server, Once I'm done, I'll have a spare server hardware ready for tests etc.. The devs sometimes need some test environment, could be handy to have a openstack | 23:03 |
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| gheorghe_ | but if you invest in knowledge, you end up saving money down the roard (because licences for microsoft or vmware are far to expensive). however, i don't know what citrix/xen can provide and for what money | 23:04 |
| jidar | if you've only got 1 server, it'll have a ton of overhead to run openstack | 23:04 |
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| Saad | gheorghe_: got it | 23:04 |
| gheorghe_ | jidar i was telling Onionnion the exact same thing | 23:04 |
| Saad | xenserver is free | 23:04 |
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| gheorghe_ | Saad if your devs need test environment and you are developing on linux, go for docker or LXD. both are incredible. well docker is more mature if you ask me | 23:05 |
| gheorghe_ | and get a private repo going | 23:05 |
| Saad | gheorghe_: I've got a docker already, they are a bit old school, they didnt know what I was talking about when I get here | 23:06 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad old school in It means you don't have a job in 5 years. things change fast. | 23:06 |
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| Saad | gheorghe_: yeah, know we pushing a bit for studies | 23:07 |
| Saad | noew* | 23:07 |
| Saad | now* | 23:07 |
| Saad | So you guys reckon I should forget about openstuck | 23:07 |
| Saad | openstack | 23:08 |
| Saad | This KVM seems to be a good solution as well | 23:08 |
| jidar | unless you have a team of talented linux guys, I wouldn't consider it. If you only have one server, I wouldn't consider it. | 23:08 |
| gheorghe_ | Saad openstack is good if you have 3-4 hypervizors and you want centralized management for them. openstack is also indredible if you provide managed hosting or cloud services. | 23:08 |
| jidar | you can organically grow openstack, but it's all (mainly) manual, it's something you'd have to be very skilled at | 23:08 |
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| Saad | jidar: good, I will install a instance to learn a bit about, but I will priorise something else | 23:09 |
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| gheorghe_ | and yes, what jidar said. you need linux skill for it. it's not as "out of the box" as vcenter. but than again, you don't pay 50000 euros per year | 23:09 |
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| Saad | My crazy idea was start to build kind of private cloud to maybe easier to export to a aws cloud in the future | 23:10 |
| jidar | if you build good automation, it won't matter where you run it | 23:11 |
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| gheorghe_ | if you know openstack you don't need aws any more ^^ | 23:11 |
| jidar | 99% of people do not build good automation | 23:11 |
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| jidar | if you tech stack isn't represented as code, in git, you're doing it wrong | 23:12 |
| Saad | jidar: got it | 23:12 |
| gheorghe_ | also, if your company is migrating to docker, consider using digitalocean + docker instead of aws. aws will charge you a lot for network, and you pay less if you go for digitalocean ... that if you decide to go on public cloud | 23:12 |
| jidar | to that end, don't do AWS unless you plan to use all of their in house tools | 23:13 |
| jidar | if you're running straight EC2 on AWS, you're paying too much and doing it wrong | 23:13 |
| gheorghe_ | jidar, i love your logic. we should be friends | 23:13 |
| Saad | cool | 23:13 |
| jidar | I do this for a living | 23:13 |
| jidar | so | 23:13 |
| jidar | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 23:13 |
| gheorghe_ | i do it for money. | 23:13 |
| gheorghe_ | #badjoke #facepalm i know | 23:13 |
| Saad | jidar: tks for the tips, I ll keep researching and studing | 23:13 |
| jidar | np | 23:14 |
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| jidar | feel free to pop in here and ask away, might take hours for a response though | 23:14 |
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| Saad | Yeah, I know, specially cuz timezone | 23:14 |
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| jidar | that and this isn't what I get paid for :P | 23:14 |
| gheorghe_ | :D | 23:15 |
| Saad | haha | 23:15 |
| Saad | sure | 23:15 |
| gheorghe_ | regarding ec2 on azure --> digitalocean | 23:15 |
| gheorghe_ | regarding ec2 on AWS --> digitalocean | 23:15 |
| jidar | I'm not a huge fan of azure, but I have to imagine if you're all windows it might look good | 23:15 |
| aeneby | Can anyone confirm/deny that the novaclient.usage.find method is broken in the latest OpenStack Python API? | 23:15 |
| jidar | I just don't like windows at all in my DC | 23:15 |
| gheorghe_ | yes, typo. wanted to say AWS not azure | 23:15 |
| jidar | aeneby: I think there is a #openstack-client channel somewhere? | 23:16 |
| Saad | I've got a S3 on AWS, is only a external FTP for API, all the rest running internal... | 23:16 |
| gheorghe_ | using only EC2 on aws will cost a lot of money, that's why digitalocean is better for stuff like this. however, if you need all the tools that aws provides ... | 23:16 |
| aeneby | jidar: gotcha, thanks | 23:16 |
| jidar | maybe openstack-sdk | 23:16 |
| jidar | not just, "need the AWS tools" like, you're going to build your application AROUND those tools | 23:17 |
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| aeneby | eee there's so many | 23:17 |
| jidar | AWS is the shining example of vendor lockin | 23:18 |
| gheorghe_ | like microsoft | 23:18 |
| gheorghe_ | exchange skype for business offices 365 hyper v azure windows server omg it never goes away | 23:19 |
| gheorghe_ | oh but wait. | 23:20 |
| gheorghe_ | AD | 23:20 |
| gheorghe_ | :( | 23:20 |
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| Onionnion | sweet, set it so I only have access to the server IP from the outside, not the switch or ipmi, now just need to install a simple DE and we're good | 23:21 |
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| gheorghe_ | if you have a DE and are not near the server, it won't feel that smooth | 23:23 |
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| Onionnion | DE? | 23:35 |
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| gheorghe_ | desktop environment | 23:36 |
| Onionnion | I know | 23:37 |
| Onionnion | I'll just use VNC | 23:37 |
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| Onionnion | just want the DE for virt | 23:40 |
| Onionnion | virt-manager | 23:40 |
| Onionnion | otherwise I use ssh | 23:40 |
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| gheorghe_ | you can configure libvirt to listen on public | 23:53 |
| gheorghe_ | and install virt-manager on your laptop (if it's a linux) | 23:53 |
| gheorghe_ | and connect with virt-manager to your qemu-kvm host | 23:53 |
| gheorghe_ | Onionnion | 23:53 |
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