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| NostawRm | I'm looking at the pros and cons of Regions vs Host Aggregates/Availability Zones. We're looking at entirely separate data centers, and all documentation suggests that regions is the right call, but if we were to use Host Aggregates, then the datacenter could be picked by the flavor | 15:48 |
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| NostawRm | I'm just not finding anything that really suggests any cons to this. The pros are obvious, since we'd have to have all the flavors in each region already, it wouldn't really be more flavors, but pre-existing systems could already work with this | 15:49 |
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| NostawRm | We would also have to mirror the glance images pool (using ceph) between the locations to prevent the need for downloading an entire image from a remote location every time its deployed, but that's also not an issue | 15:51 |
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| jidar | NostawRm: ceph isn't really the right sort of datacenter replication, you should look into using swift as the backend for that | 16:34 |
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| NostawRm | jidar, its not datacenter replication, but more having instances in different datacenters | 16:35 |
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| jidar | you specially talk about using glance | 16:37 |
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| jidar | for the images, which is fine but you mention using ceph for that | 16:37 |
| jidar | I'm telling you based on previous arch, that's not the way to go | 16:37 |
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| jidar | rackspace in particular tackled that issue and gave whitepapers and talks about it | 16:39 |
| jidar | iirc anyway | 16:39 |
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| smgoller | hey all, i've just deployed newton via juju charms and there doesn't seem to be an option to upload images via url in the dashboard. Is there a way to turn this back on? | 17:27 |
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| jidar | smgoller: I think you just feel the location field a url, no? | 17:28 |
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| smgoller | oh? the reason I ask is because the page only has "file" as an option, while the docs show "file" and "url" as things you can click on | 17:29 |
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| jidar | smgoller: I noticed that as well, I guess perhaps the gui doesn't have a url field anymore | 17:29 |
| smgoller | yeah, there's no place to enter a url, just a button for picking a file | 17:29 |
| jidar | cli still works though | 17:30 |
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| smgoller | sure | 17:30 |
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| smgoller | looks like there's a new angular-based ui and maybe that functionality isn't there. oh well. it was very convenient | 17:32 |
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| smgoller | i think this might explain it, from the release notes: "Glance v2 doesn’t support the copy-from feature, so this feature is disabled in Horizon when using Glance v2." | 17:33 |
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| jidar | oh there ya go | 17:33 |
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| robcresswell | smgoller: Yeah, you can complain to Glance about that | 17:57 |
| smgoller | it's fine. i'm not that worried about it | 17:58 |
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| smgoller | realistically that's not a common activity so | 17:58 |
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| NostawRm | jidar, I guess I'm not seeing something. Are you saying swift should be used over ceph just for glance or in general? I'm trying to do research on my own but I'm not finding anything other than videos and those aren't extremely skimmable ;P | 18:09 |
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| jidar | NostawRm: sure, I'm just saying that glance has many backend options for storage, ceph is one, nfs is another, swift is a third. Ceph (before jewel) didn't have the concept of geographical locations, so if you had a ceph cluster built and you tried to connect multiple nodes to it the ceph client would use any and all of those nodes to get it's data | 18:11 |
| jidar | because of this, your downloads could be VERY slow (if say, trying to pull data from alaska) over say your local datacenter | 18:11 |
| jidar | it also means it would be pretty stupid to put your cluster across multiple geographical regions | 18:12 |
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| jidar | people, like the guys at rackspace developed a way to front end the objects with swift (letting it do the multi-region replication) | 18:12 |
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| NostawRm | hrm, I think I see and me trying to reason would only add to the confusion due to our examples thus far being a single site and trying to make the plans for larger right now | 18:15 |
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| NostawRm | Cause I was thinking something along the lines of having the glance database replicated and the images pool mirrored, so the ceph cluster wouldn't go beyond the datacenters, since its not for having instances available in every DC but trying to work with an existing provisioning module, otherwise one region per datacenter would make more sense | 18:21 |
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| NostawRm | hrm, I do see issues there that will just essentially require trying it and seeing | 18:21 |
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| NostawRm | cause right now, everything is theoretical beyond if using Host Aggregates to separate locations, but everything has to be considered | 18:23 |
| jrich523 | anyone have a good link for how to roll back a snapshot? | 18:23 |
| jrich523 | im clearly way to use to the features of vmware :-/ | 18:23 |
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| iggy | jrich523: never actually done it, but I imagine it's a bit more like AWS... you just make a new instance from the snapshot | 18:26 |
| jrich523 | thats what i've read... but im going to attempt to detach the current disk and attach the image disk... you know.. see what happens :) | 18:26 |
| jrich523 | thankfully its nothing too important | 18:27 |
| iggy | this is a secondary disk I'm assuming? because that definitely won't work on a root disk | 18:27 |
| jrich523 | well damn it | 18:27 |
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| jrich523 | i guess i'll stop attempting that now | 18:27 |
| iggy | oh wait, are you trying it with the VM shutdown? | 18:28 |
| jrich523 | yes | 18:28 |
| jrich523 | i shut it down | 18:28 |
| jrich523 | was just about to detach | 18:28 |
| jrich523 | and then attach | 18:28 |
| iggy | right, that might work | 18:28 |
| jrich523 | i'll let you know in a min! | 18:29 |
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| iggy | I was thinking you were trying it when the instance was up | 18:29 |
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| iggy | was like "I think that might really confuse the OS" | 18:30 |
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| iggy | are you trying this method (vs just making a new one from the snapshot) because of stuff like IPs/etc? | 18:30 |
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| jrich523 | yeah im pretty sure that would be really bad :) | 18:32 |
| jrich523 | so looks like i need to move/convert the snapshot to a volume? | 18:34 |
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| jrich523 | ERROR (Forbidden): Can't detach root device volume (HTTP 403) (Request-ID: req-1993ecba-956f-40d5-8409-a420eb927830) | 18:38 |
| jrich523 | guess not | 18:38 |
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| iggy | :/ | 18:44 |
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| jrich523 | well... i got it working... so... it wasnt all bad | 19:01 |
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| bryanruiz | i spun up a nova cloud using conjure and juju and i'm trying to figure out the best way to add a nova-compute instance.. is this something anyone can give me any suggestions with? | 19:06 |
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| herrsergio | hi everybody, I have a question about VNC in the dashboard. How can it be possible that somebody without credentials can access a vnc console ? | 19:24 |
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| NostawRm | jidar, I just recalled one of the reasons why ceph for glance was a concern. We'd like to keep the copy on write option you get when using ceph and a raw source image. I'm assuming this would be lost when using ceph for nova and swift for glance? | 19:26 |
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| herrsergio | Recently we found a message in one of an instance login screen and we have tried to find the way this person did it | 19:27 |
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| iggy | jrich523: what did you end up doing? | 19:34 |
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| iggy | bryanruiz: openstack server create .... | 19:35 |
| jrich523 | i ended up building a new box | 19:35 |
| iggy | herrsergio: if they were able to do it without proper access, then I'd open an issue | 19:35 |
| jrich523 | doing it the "normal" way i guess | 19:35 |
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| herrsergio | iggy: yes, it's weird | 19:37 |
| bryanruiz | thanks iggy.. turned out to be juju create nova-compute | 19:38 |
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| iggy | shows how much I know about juju | 19:39 |
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| herrsergio | iggy: I found what could it be: http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0833.html | 19:52 |
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| iggy | that's a pretty old issue | 19:55 |
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| preilly | Has anybody seen https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/speakers/3659 around? aka Martin Klein from SAP. | 19:57 |
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| herrsergio | iggy: indeed, we made the installation in Ubuntu 14.04, and Ubuntu doesn't have any issue published about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/novnc | 19:58 |
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| herrsergio | iggy: also found this: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/72636/info | 20:00 |
| herrsergio | :o | 20:00 |
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| preilly | Thanks herrsergio | 20:19 |
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| Neon`` | i upgraded openstack to newton release and now when ever i boot instance it stuck at group like "inconsistent file system structure" with cirros and with windows blue screen or recovery. In centos same in grub screen. Is something changed in newton release ? | 21:27 |
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| wwalker | Hypervisors show me on all 4 compute hosts 1.0-1.6 TB used of 41.2 TB, yet when I tried to create a 1 TB volume I get an Error. clearly to 1.5 TB is how much space is used versus what is allocated. Is there something that will show me allocated per availability zone? Is there something that let's me set the oversubscription allowance for storage (and for CPU)? | 21:37 |
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| stephen-la | does anyone know if its still possible to use devstack scripts for going back to liberty release? | 23:44 |
| stephen-la | Cloning into '/opt/stack/keystone'... | 23:45 |
| stephen-la | + cd /opt/stack/keystone | 23:45 |
| stephen-la | + git checkout stable/liberty | 23:45 |
| stephen-la | error: pathspec 'stable/liberty' did not match any file(s) known to git. | 23:45 |
| stephen-la | seems to fail everytime now on keystone | 23:45 |
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