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| masuberu | hi | 04:17 |
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| masuberu | where is the "settings.py" file for horizon located? | 04:17 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: typically /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_setings.py | 04:40 |
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| SamYaple | masuberu: but it depends on how it was installed | 04:40 |
| masuberu | SamYaple, yeah that is a good question, I used packstack | 04:40 |
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| masuberu | so better to ask RDO | 04:41 |
| SamYaple | i mean you can check /etc/openstack-dashboard first | 04:41 |
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| masuberu | I am trying to integrate sahara gui to horizon | 04:42 |
| masuberu | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/icehouse/horizon/installation.guide.html | 04:43 |
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| SamYaple | wow icehouse is old | 05:02 |
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| masuberu | SamYaple, yes I know but I am using newton | 05:43 |
| masuberu | SamYaple, do you know where can I find HORIZON_CONFIG = { | 05:43 |
| masuberu | 'dashboards': ('nova', 'syspanel', 'settings', ..., 'sahara'), ? | 05:43 |
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| masuberu | I don't have the option 'dashboards' in my HORIZON_CONFIG | 05:47 |
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| masuberu | hi | 07:56 |
| masuberu | has anyone here installed sahara?? | 07:56 |
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| jidar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara https://launchpad.net/sahara released on 2015-10-15 | 08:18 |
| jidar | that would largely seem to be a dead project | 08:18 |
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| SamYaple | jidar: https://github.com/openstack/sahara http://stackalytics.com/?module=sahara-group&release=newton | 09:21 |
| SamYaple | definietely not dead | 09:21 |
| SamYaple | masuberu: any section that doesnt exist can be added | 09:22 |
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| jidar | SamYaple: oh look at that, I didn't see them move the project over | 19:25 |
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| prometheus | Can I install Openstack directly on top of VMware ESXi or do I have to install in say for example SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 running as a VM on ESXi? Thank you. | 19:53 |
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| prometheus | Can I install Openstack directly on top of VMware ESXi or do I have to install in say for example SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 running as a VM on ESXi? Thank you. | 19:57 |
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| prometheus | Can I install Openstack directly on top of VMware ESXi or do I have to install in say for example SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 running as a VM on ESXi? Thank you. | 20:04 |
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| prometheus | Can I install Openstack directly on top of VMware ESXi or do I have to install in say for example SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 running as a VM on ESXi? Thank you. | 20:10 |
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| prometheus | Can I install Openstack directly on top of VMware ESXi or do I have to install in say for example SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 running as a VM on ESXi? Thank you. | 20:30 |
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| prometheus | I thought #openstack what for general discussion and support? There's 888 people in here and nobody and give a single sentence answer to a question? | 20:34 |
| prometheus | I thought #openstack was for general discussion and support? There's 888 people in here and nobody and give a single sentence answer to a question? | 20:35 |
| jidar | maybe it's because your question is poorly thought out and obviously haven't put any research into? | 20:36 |
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| prometheus | maybe you're just a dick | 20:36 |
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| dostoyevsky | prometheus: 888 dicks | 21:01 |
| prometheus | Apparently. But that is simply uncalled for as the channel #openstack is described on openstack.org as being general discussion and support. So if you have someone who asks a question which could be answered with a yes or no and the only person that responds, does so in a way that really just seems like he thinks he is better than someone just trying to understand something, I'd say he's a dick. I'm the type of person that tries to help people. | 21:06 |
| prometheus | Everyone starts off in a position where they they are a noob. | 21:06 |
| prometheus | A good person would have dropped a link and said here bro, read this: | 21:07 |
| prometheus | but no. No one can do that because they think they are all that. I see how it is. | 21:07 |
| dostoyevsky | prometheus: I am looking forward to your helpful replies to all my questions...:) | 21:07 |
| prometheus | You never asked a question | 21:07 |
| prometheus | I'm the one that did | 21:08 |
| prometheus | no you're just playing games. | 21:08 |
| dostoyevsky | prometheus: is KVM mandatory to use with OpenStack? | 21:08 |
| prometheus | no | 21:08 |
| prometheus | simple huh? | 21:08 |
| dostoyevsky | prometheus: ok... hmmm... but why did I hear otherwise? | 21:09 |
| prometheus | Openstack is hypervisor agnostic. At least that was my understanding | 21:09 |
| dostoyevsky | > OpenStack Compute (Nova) is a cloud computing fabric controller, which is the main part of an IaaS system. It is designed to manage and automate pools of computer resources and can work with widely available virtualization technologies, as well as bare metal and high-performance computing (HPC) configurations. KVM, VMware, and Xen are available choices for hypervisor technology (virtual machine mo | 21:09 |
| dostoyevsky | nitor), together with Hyper-V and Linux container technology such as LXC.[45][46] | 21:09 |
| prometheus | You could use KVM, Hyper-V, ESXi | 21:09 |
| dostoyevsky | yeah, also said on wikipedia | 21:09 |
| jidar | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=running+openstack+under+vmware | 21:10 |
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| jidar | sadly, it's only the first link that should get you sorted | 21:10 |
| dostoyevsky | jidar: my co-worker told me: OS only runs with kvm... | 21:10 |
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| dostoyevsky | Does it make sense to use OS without Nova? | 21:11 |
| prometheus | So can someone tell me, if Openstack has to be installed from within RHEL, SUSE or some other distro; or can I install it by itself on top of a hypervisor? | 21:11 |
| dostoyevsky | prometheus: I have the same question actually.. | 21:11 |
| prometheus | interesting | 21:11 |
| jidar | Openstack is typically installed entirely independent of ESX, and is generally considered to be a replacement for | 21:11 |
| dostoyevsky | because when you read e.g. the the project description of invidividual projects, e.g. barbican... they tell you basically to do a yum <package> | 21:12 |
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| prometheus | I just watched a vid from a person from VMware that said Openstack works with ESXi or VCloud | 21:12 |
| jidar | and you didn't even click my link | 21:12 |
| jidar | which would answer that for you | 21:12 |
| prometheus | You dropped a link? | 21:13 |
| prometheus | Jimdar where is it? I don't see the link. | 21:13 |
| * jidar cleans his hands of this nonsense | 21:13 | |
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| dostoyevsky | prometheus: I guess Nova sits on top of the hypervisor and the other projects run inside the servers, which are orchestrated by Nova | 21:14 |
| jidar | dostoyevsky: incorrect, nova-compute _is_ a hypervisor | 21:14 |
| dostoyevsky | hmmm... | 21:15 |
| PavelK | Hello guys, can someone help me please | 21:15 |
| PavelK | http://paste.openstack.org/show/590584/ | 21:15 |
| prometheus | Jimdar, so does that mean I can install Nova instead of ESXi? | 21:15 |
| dostoyevsky | jidar: which project is orchestrating the cluster, starting instances on demand etc? | 21:15 |
| jidar | nova scheduler | 21:16 |
| jidar | and "on demand" isn't right | 21:16 |
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| jidar | you might have say, ceilometer and heat working together to ask the scheduler to spin up a new instance | 21:16 |
| jidar | but as far as resource destination (which compute host) that's nova scheduler | 21:16 |
| dostoyevsky | jidar: Ok... that would be like using Clouddwatch + Autoscaling on AWS... makes sense | 21:17 |
| jidar | very similar yes | 21:17 |
| dostoyevsky | If OS also supports Xen, then it could run easily on amazon AWS too... as they use Xen | 21:17 |
| jidar | that's not how that works | 21:18 |
| jidar | unless you're implying some sort of HV over top HV | 21:18 |
| jidar | would be about as performant as a toaster | 21:19 |
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| dostoyevsky | jidar: yeah, I do not think it would make much sense at all... but just trying to understand OS... I also wonder how I could get my servers on the same VLAN on AWS for OS... I suppose if I use the "default VPC" option on AWS I'd have all my cluster servers on the same vlan | 21:24 |
| dostoyevsky | but maybe that's something else... not sure if AWS actually has something like a vlan that OS requires | 21:25 |
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| dostoyevsky | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/4f91ed3a547965ed96a22520edcfb783e7936e95/nova/compute/hv_type.py#L30 <- not bad! | 21:29 |
| dostoyevsky | > This list is all known hypervisors, even if not currently supported by OpenStack. | 21:29 |
| dostoyevsky | ok :-/ | 21:29 |
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| dostoyevsky | > The Docker driver is a hypervisor driver for Openstack Nova Compute. It was introduced with the Havana release, but lives out-of-tree for Icehouse and Juno. | 21:32 |
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| PavelK | Gues, does somebody has experience with Xen + OpenStack | 21:40 |
| PavelK | Gyus* | 21:40 |
| PavelK | Please help me with following error http://paste.openstack.org/show/590584/ | 21:40 |
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| dostoyevsky | PavelK: https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/virt/xenapi | 21:41 |
| dostoyevsky | I know that link :) | 21:41 |
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| dostoyevsky | do you run Nova on a virtualized linux server? | 21:41 |
| dostoyevsky | PavelK: ^^^^ | 21:42 |
| PavelK | Yeah as it on XenServer | 21:42 |
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| PavelK | and i did install xapi plugins for xenserver | 21:42 |
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| dostoyevsky | PavelK: did you go through this list? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/PostInstall | 21:51 |
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| dostoyevsky | I'd imagine you didn't really adhere to the vhd requirements | 21:51 |
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| dostoyevsky | But interesting, one can also let XenServer run inside virtualbox for development: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/VirtualBox | 21:53 |
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| PavelK | dostoyevsky: Yes i did, but i'm using xenserver 7.0, i think there might be difference | 21:54 |
| dostoyevsky | PavelK: but wait | 21:56 |
| dostoyevsky | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1274402 | 21:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1274402 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Local variable 'domain_ref' referenced before assignment" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to David Stanek (dstanek) | 21:57 |
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| dostoyevsky | > local variable 'leaf_vhd_path' referenced before assignment | 21:57 |
| dostoyevsky | PavelK: that's actually your error message... | 21:58 |
| dostoyevsky | Looks like a bug.. imho | 21:58 |
| dostoyevsky | I mean, that's a syntax error in python basically | 21:58 |
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| dostoyevsky | > /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/XenAPI.py", line 203, in _parse_result | 22:00 |
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| PavelK | dostoyevsky: thats interesting, will be cheking, i've checked all configs file regarding vhd i found no typo/syntax errors | 22:02 |
| PavelK | it might be related to python version | 22:02 |
| PavelK | but shudn't | 22:03 |
| dostoyevsky | Seems like the OS guys do not have an extensive test suite to rack up the coverage enough to prevent errors like this... | 22:03 |
| PavelK | looks like, and there is no button to submit issue on git :( | 22:04 |
| dostoyevsky | > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=local+variable++referenced+before+assignment+openstack&ia=web | 22:04 |
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| dostoyevsky | if you search for unbound variable errors with openstack there are quite a few bug reports... Maybe try to use the openstack version from icehouse? | 22:05 |
| PavelK | actually i saw such condition in source code. | 22:06 |
| PavelK | if seq_num == 0: leaf_vhd_path = vhd_path leaf_vhd_uuid = vhd_uuid | 22:06 |
| PavelK | going to open it in pycharm and see | 22:07 |
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| dostoyevsky | PavelK: yeah, vhd_path needs to be defined before being used, I do not know a version of Python would do that differently | 22:08 |
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| dostoyevsky | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/plugins/xenserver/xenapi/etc/xapi.d/plugins/utils.py | 22:10 |
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| dostoyevsky | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/plugins/xenserver/xenapi/etc/xapi.d/plugins/utils.py#L367 | 22:10 |
| dostoyevsky | it's define in the code from github, though | 22:10 |
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| dostoyevsky | > vhd_path = os.path.join(staging_path, "%s.vhd" % vhd_uuid) | 22:11 |
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| PavelK | yes but error within leaf_vhd_path which creates if seq_num == 0 | 22:13 |
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| PavelK | but if not it tryies to use this variable | 22:13 |
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| dostoyevsky | PavelK: https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/ | 22:16 |
| dostoyevsky | as there | 22:16 |
| dostoyevsky | type your question in the search bar and then hit "ask your question" | 22:17 |
| dostoyevsky | (button appears when it cannot find your question) | 22:17 |
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| PavelK | I asked :) | 22:19 |
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| spligak | I'm having trouble creating a project and associating a user with that project using the keystoneclient python library. | 22:25 |
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| jidar | spligak: directly in python? I think there is a #openstack-sdk channel that does that? | 22:25 |
| PavelK | dostoyevsky: Thank you! | 22:26 |
| spligak | jidar, yes. didn't realize that was a channel. thanks! | 22:26 |
| dostoyevsky | spligak: there are many OS channels but not many where people are actually answering questions ... | 22:27 |
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| jidar | dostoyevsky: I've found if you've got a question specific to the channels there are a number of people who are willing to help | 22:28 |
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| jidar | the problem most often is how wide a breadth Openstack covers, so there is likely nobody else with specific knowledge of the problem you're asking in here to answer | 22:29 |
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| dostoyevsky | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-sdks/ | 22:30 |
| dostoyevsky | yeah, there are actually people talking there | 22:31 |
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| dostoyevsky | name of channel is #openstack-sdks [sic!] | 22:31 |
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| dostoyevsky | They really should rename OpenStack to CORBA 2016 :) | 22:34 |
| dostoyevsky | But I guess that name got out of fashion :) | 22:34 |
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| dostoyevsky | And we didn't have hypervisors then | 22:37 |
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| dostoyevsky | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 23:17 |
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| dostoyevsky | So libvirt (qemu/KVM on x86) is actually the only hypervisor that is fully supported by OpenStack... vmware, hyper-v, xenserver, xen are not well-tested... | 23:18 |
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| dostoyevsky | That's probably what my co-worker meant | 23:19 |
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| jidar | fairly sure to use vmware as a HV by nova you need to be running the vmwaer version of Openstack | 23:21 |
| jidar | and I think Hyper-v requires some other feature such as a management layer | 23:21 |
| jidar | whatever their vcenter like product is | 23:21 |
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| Son_Goku | jidar: the Hyper-V management center is bundled with Windows Server | 23:23 |
| Son_Goku | but yeah, you need that | 23:23 |
| Son_Goku | you can't activate without the proper license (naturally) | 23:24 |
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| jidar | Son_Goku: do you know if images out of glance work well? I know on the vmware side you can't use vmdk's unless you're running a datastore inside vmware? | 23:26 |
| Son_Goku | jidar they don't, afair | 23:26 |
| dostoyevsky | Still, as far as I understand these drivers so far, it basically boils down to running the proper command line APIs to e.g. setting up a disk volume or a virtual network card, besides starting instances etc... So it's actually not that complex | 23:26 |
| Son_Goku | things that are primarily managed through libvirt these days (KVM, Xen) tend to work well | 23:27 |
| Son_Goku | there's a couple of patch series pending on improving Hyper-V support in libvirt at the libvirt ML | 23:27 |
| Son_Goku | but they're woefully incomplete currently | 23:27 |
| dostoyevsky | Ok going from full virtualization to paravirtualization might be quite complicated to do but I am not sure if the OS hypervisor driver actually entails that | 23:27 |
| dostoyevsky | or if it just assumes that you give it an image that already has the paravirtulization drivers installed, to be able to better access host resources from within the virtualized machine | 23:29 |
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