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| krfa | Hello. I'd make an high available openstack platform. What would be the best design to have high available controller nodes? As I ofter see design with multiple network node, storage node, etc... but not so much with multiple controller. Is there a reason why? | 06:17 |
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| xiongneng620 | 有人在吗，我想看看是不是就我一人 | 06:36 |
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| xiongneng620 | [14:32] <xiongneng620> 有人在吗 [14:36] <xiongneng620> 怎么回事，就我一个人麽 [14:36] <xiongneng620> 哎，累觉不爱了 [14:40] <xiongneng620> ？？？ [14:40] <xiongneng620> 不能交谈，这个channel用来干嘛的 [14:40] <xiongneng620> 就我一个人，自己跟自己聊天 | 06:41 |
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| xiongneng620 | 就我一个人，自己跟自己聊天？ | 06:41 |
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| Qlawy | Hi guys, I have problem with heat which blows timeouts randomly | 07:56 |
| Qlawy | example: 3 times of heat stack-list works like a charm, next one or two will timeout on message reply :/ | 07:56 |
| Qlawy | 2016-05-23 09:48:41.870 3031 DEBUG heat.common.wsgi [req-91d67206-7043-427b-8f3e-7029c4783781 98f13b5dca624e659c7bebd94f135ec6 433e9cf89c2943bcb56bc12ef81f1772] Calling <heat.api.openstack.v1.resources.ResourceController object at 0x7f3370081290> : metadata __call__ /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/heat/common/wsgi.py:851 | 07:56 |
| Qlawy | 2016-05-23 09:48:41.873 3031 DEBUG oslo_messaging._drivers.amqpdriver [req-91d67206-7043-427b-8f3e-7029c4783781 98f13b5dca624e659c7bebd94f135ec6 433e9cf89c2943bcb56bc12ef81f1772] MSG_ID is 607110b71e4c49e4a30ba5a005ce1f18 _send /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py:423 | 07:56 |
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| Qlawy | always those messages times out | 07:56 |
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| adrighem | Hi all, | 08:15 |
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| adrighem | Heat stack utput question: I'm trying to view attributes of a stack resource, and using stack output for that. Is there a better way? | 08:17 |
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| adrighem | What I' trying to get at is the attributes of a resourcegroup. But it looks like the "attributes" just are not there. | 08:24 |
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| adrighem | openstack stack resource show stackname resourcegroupname results in: | attributes | {u'attributes': None, u'refs': None} | 08:25 |
| adrighem | Any ideas? | 08:25 |
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| adrighem | For normal resources, you use: get_attr: [controller1_port, fixed_ips, 0, ip_address] | 08:33 |
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| adrighem | For resources in a resourcegroup, you must use: get_attr: [resourcegroup, resource.0.ip_address] | 08:34 |
| adrighem | Undocumented "feature" of the resourcegroup. | 08:34 |
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| mkumatag | while creating a new token for a user via keystone v2, I'm getting "Could not find domain: default" error in keystone logs, any idea how to create the default domain? | 12:06 |
| mkumatag | btw : I'm using latest version of keystone - mitaka | 12:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mkumatag: keystone v2 does not support domains | 12:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's a hack where it'll look for a domain with id 'default', but that went away in mitaka. if you're using mitaka, do not use keystone v2. | 12:17 |
| mkumatag | but I've restriction to use v2, is there a way to hack and use it ? | 12:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | v2 is deprecated | 12:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you need to use v3 | 12:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least by newton | 12:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | for now you might be able to create a domain with id 'default' | 12:20 |
| mkumatag | you mean if I create a domain id with default then it will work right? | 12:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mkumatag: it might | 12:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | but you really need to use v3 | 12:22 |
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| mkumatag | okay! | 12:22 |
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| mkumatag | but I couldn't found a way to create a domain! | 12:22 |
| mkumatag | "openstack domain " didn't find this command working | 12:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what does it say when you run it? | 12:24 |
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| mkumatag | openstack: 'domain' is not an openstack command. See 'openstack --help'. | 12:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what version of the openstack client? | 12:27 |
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| mkumatag | openstack 2.3.0 | 12:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats odd | 12:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if it hides it if keystone v3 isnt running | 12:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | it shouldnt though, because the keystone client is deprecated | 12:30 |
| mkumatag | :( | 12:30 |
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| caspinol | Hello, I have problems migrating the volumes that were created on the GUI using "Launch Instance"->"Boot from Image(Creates new volume)" | 13:26 |
| caspinol | the Instance gets created and all seem working fine but when I try to migrate the volume I get: "ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher _InvalidType" in the nova-compute.log and migration fails | 13:26 |
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| caspinol | please find entire error trace: http://pastebin.centos.org/45541/ | 13:27 |
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| caspinol | its openstack Liberty on CentOS7 | 13:27 |
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| caspinol | the cinder-volume ver is 7.0.1 and nova-compute v12.0.1 | 13:29 |
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| caspinol | would anybody have any pointers | 13:38 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Hoping this is a softball here -> Any recommended partition layouts for Compute nodes? This will be three 2T drives, raid 5'd together. | 13:56 |
| drawsmcgraw | My thought is to present a single large disk to the OS (Centos 7), and then LVM that large disk. | 13:57 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Seeing as they're compute nodes, I imagine the majority of the space will be needed in /var for the instance disks. Thoughts? | 13:57 |
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| minnesotags | One large volume. The OS should be on a separate drive, preferably mirrored raid, with space for swap. | 14:00 |
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| minnesotags | If you plan to grow it at all, you might consider ceph. | 14:01 |
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| minnesotags | But just three drives is tough. | 14:01 |
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| drawsmcgraw | minnesotags: Thanks. I actually don't have the ability for Ceph right now so three drives per compute node is all I've got for now. | 14:06 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I really want the instances to live on a raided set of disks because I've already lost a week of time from a failing drive before. | 14:06 |
| drawsmcgraw | So that means I need both the OS and the instances on a raided setup. | 14:07 |
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| drawsmcgraw | And since all I've got is three drives... that's the thought behind raiding all three together :/ | 14:07 |
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| minnesotags | Performance will suffer.... But it always does! Are they ssd? | 14:09 |
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| drawsmcgraw | minnesotags: I'm okay with the performance issues. And of course they're not ssds :) | 14:13 |
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| minnesotags | drawsmcgraw: 3 drives raid 5 is bold! Anyway, make sure you use LVM and separate partitions for the os, swap and the volume where the instances will live. That will make it easier to migrate. Maybe.... | 14:15 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Bold! Now I'm concerned... What's bold about this? I feel like I'm missing something. | 14:16 |
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| minnesotags | One out of three drives goes bad is not good odds. | 14:16 |
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| drawsmcgraw | I can survive one of the three drives failing, right? | 14:17 |
| minnesotags | Yes. | 14:18 |
| minnesotags | As long as you pay close attention. | 14:18 |
| drawsmcgraw | I'm open to input :) | 14:18 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Given the constraints | 14:18 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Right. We have pretty good hardware monitoring. I've been notified of drive failures in the past by our monitoring (and not by a failed system) | 14:19 |
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| AndyWojo | how do you see the breakdown in where instances lives across your compute nodes? | 14:22 |
| minnesotags | drawsmcgraw: http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/11/choosing-a-raid-level-by-drive-count/ | 14:22 |
| drawsmcgraw | AndyWojo: Not sure I'm smart enough to understand that question... | 14:22 |
| AndyWojo | drawsmcgraw: I have two compute nodes, if I create 10 instances, how does it spread the load across both compute nodes? | 14:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | AndyWojo: Ah. Currently I'm just using the default scheduler config so I would suspect "evenly"... | 14:23 |
| drawsmcgraw | thanks minnesotags | 14:23 |
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| AndyWojo | Just wondering if there's a way to visualize that. | 14:24 |
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| drawsmcgraw | oh sorry AndyWojo. I was so tied up in my question I thought yours was in the context of my situation. | 14:25 |
| AndyWojo | Oh | 14:25 |
| AndyWojo | No sorry :) | 14:25 |
| drawsmcgraw | This is for Kilo but I imagine the details are about the same still re: the Scheduler -> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html | 14:26 |
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| minnesotags | drawsmcgraw: Also, http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/11/choosing-a-raid-level-by-drive-count/ | 14:27 |
| minnesotags | Oops: http://www.infostor.com/disk-arrays/raid/raid-remains-relevant-really | 14:27 |
| drawsmcgraw | Thanks again minnesotags. But... that last one 404'd ? | 14:28 |
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| minnesotags | Bottom line, if this is just a lab, then raid5 is fine, but you probably should look again at Raid 1 if it is at all production http://www.infostor.com/disk-arrays/raid/raid-remains-relevant-really-1.html | 14:29 |
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| drawsmcgraw | minnesotags: raid 1 would turn my collective 6T into 3T, is that right? | 14:30 |
| minnesotags | With just three drives, you won't take as much of a storage hit going from raid5 to raid 1 as you think. | 14:30 |
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| drawsmcgraw | This is a mix but yes, we will be running production on this. | 14:30 |
| drawsmcgraw | Basically, if it increases durability, I want it :) | 14:31 |
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| minnesotags | Better that, than losing your entire node and instances on a bad raid rebuild! | 14:31 |
| drawsmcgraw | Oh yeah, I'm okay with the loss in storage | 14:31 |
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| drawsmcgraw | Our instances are memory hogs. I don't see a challenge with the storage loss. | 14:31 |
| minnesotags | Sure. | 14:31 |
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| drawsmcgraw | minnesotags: Can I *have* raid 1 with an odd number of drives? | 14:32 |
| minnesotags | That is still an awful lot of instances. | 14:32 |
| minnesotags | Yes. | 14:32 |
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| drawsmcgraw | yes. Yes it is. | 14:32 |
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| AndyWojo | So let's say I need to patch a compute node, for some critical vulnerability, how would you migrate all instances off that compute node so you can reboot it | 14:32 |
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| AndyWojo | How do you tell what instances are on which compute node to even start | 14:33 |
| drawsmcgraw | okay thanks minnesotags. I'll do the legwork on getting three drives in raid 1 and see what that looks like. Next is to convince The Boss that the work is merited (the machines are already built with default partitioning) | 14:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | AndyWojo: depending on your circumstance, there's always "nova evacuate" | 14:33 |
| minnesotags | Sell him on the reliability. | 14:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | minnesotags: Will do. I also need to sell him on the merits of a Cobbler server sooner-than-later. For this exact reason. | 14:33 |
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| minnesotags | Bosses love that shit. | 14:33 |
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| drawsmcgraw | hah. This one's a technical boss so he's nothing like the horror stories I've heard. | 14:34 |
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| minnesotags | Still. | 14:34 |
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| drawsmcgraw | fair enough :) | 14:34 |
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| minnesotags | The last thing anyone needs is to have all their shit go down just to save 500gb or a couple hours of time. | 14:35 |
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| minnesotags | Due to one failed drive. | 14:35 |
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| minnesotags | Because of course it will happen at 10am Monday morning. Or, it will happen at 6:30pm on Friday, when you are already an hour drive on your way to an out-of-town wedding. | 14:37 |
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| caspinol | Hello, I have problems migrating the volumes that were created on the GUI using "Launch Instance"->"Boot from Image(Creates new volume)" | 15:02 |
| caspinol | the Instance gets created and all seem working fine but when I try to migrate the volume I get: "ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher _InvalidType" in the nova-compute.log and migration fails. | 15:02 |
| caspinol | Please find entire error trace: http://pastebin.centos.org/45541/ . | 15:02 |
| caspinol | I'm running openstack Liberty on CentOS7 with the cinder-volume ver is 7.0.1 and nova-compute v12.0.1 | 15:02 |
| caspinol | I would appreciate any help with this | 15:03 |
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| mimizone | stupid question. I exported an instance out of openstack and run it in virtualbox. How can I remove all the cloud-init metadata setup at boot? | 17:29 |
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| AndyWojo | whats the difference between mikata and liberty | 17:55 |
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| AndyWojo | oh nvm | 17:55 |
| AndyWojo | liberty is one rev behind | 17:55 |
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| obcecado | AndyWojo: relases are named from a to z | 17:56 |
| AndyWojo | Gotcha makes sense | 17:56 |
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| mimizone | answering to my how question : I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure cloud-init' and unchecked all the options. | 18:03 |
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| AndyWojo | Can you use cinder to 'san boot' instance instead of tying the root disk to a particular compute node? | 18:15 |
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| Fl1nt | msg /help | 18:22 |
| Fl1nt | Hi everyone | 18:22 |
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| Fl1nt | I have a question regarding OpenStack master/controller nodes, I'm planning to build an openstack private cloud for a relatively limited clients at first, but this POC could lead to a bigger installation. | 18:24 |
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| Fl1nt | My question is about the controller database | 18:24 |
| Fl1nt | Does anyone use MariaDB in Galera Cluster (WSREP) mode instead of MySQL on an Ubuntu 16.04 Install ?? | 18:25 |
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| yankcrime | Fl1nt: yes, but not on 16.04 - still on 14.04 | 18:34 |
| Fl1nt | no pb, does it fit well ? | 18:35 |
| Fl1nt | did you experienced trouble or weird behavior? | 18:35 |
| yankcrime | yup, no problems to report after > 2 years in production with it | 18:35 |
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| Fl1nt | Ok, nice to ear that ^^ | 18:35 |
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| yankcrime | no trouble, it mostly Just Works ™ | 18:35 |
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| Fl1nt | ok cool, it ease me on my choice. | 18:36 |
| yankcrime | it's a pretty common configuration | 18:36 |
| yankcrime | ours is 3 nodes configured in multi-writer mode, however all clients connect via haproxy which then designates a 'master' | 18:37 |
| Fl1nt | I have a lot of "flight time" with Galera cluster but most of time on bare-metal for PHP/Whatever backends, not for Openstack, as I know it's kinda touchy on some requirements, better to get there for informations ^^ | 18:37 |
| yankcrime | historically there were some problems with write-locking and certain openstack components (nova), these have reportedly been addressed but we've not yet moved away from this architecture mostly because it's working just fine | 18:37 |
| Fl1nt | ok, cool, that what I planned to build indeed. | 18:38 |
| albertcard | Fl1nt, I'd say the problem arises as the connection amounts arise. You'll still have to tune things like max_connections, wait_timeout and innodb-buffer-pool-size | 18:38 |
| Fl1nt | but in a HA mode with each node being a complete controller | 18:38 |
| yankcrime | history here: http://www.joinfu.com/2015/01/understanding-reservations-concurrency-locking-in-nova/ | 18:38 |
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| albertcard | You won't truly know the acceptable values to tune until you have an actual usecase or user base on it | 18:39 |
| yankcrime | albertcard's right, i should say 'no problems apart from the obvious' | 18:39 |
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| yankcrime | stuff like max_connections is a bit of a no-brainer and pretty standard ime | 18:39 |
| Fl1nt | albertcard: yup, not things that I'm afraid of as we will have a fairly extended test time period. | 18:39 |
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| Fl1nt | and additionnally I'm rather accustomed with such tweaking as I'm handling a pretty heavy loaded cloud platform based on it. | 18:40 |
| Fl1nt | my fear was rather on the OpenStack part :D | 18:40 |
| Fl1nt | yankcrime: thx for the links | 18:40 |
| Fl1nt | yankcrime: thx for the link | 18:40 |
| albertcard | I know, yankcrime, just throwing it out there. Horizon dash can be a bit sluggish on initial login if the nova database gets too large, yet you don't have a sufficient innodb-buffer-pool-size | 18:41 |
| * yankcrime nods | 18:41 | |
| yankcrime | some of that is housekeeping, which openstack does a poor job of | 18:41 |
| yankcrime | i.e soft-deletes for various objects | 18:41 |
| Fl1nt | I had a situation regarding max_connections settings from a former Admin at work earlier last year, was correlated to the interactive and connection timeout ^^ | 18:42 |
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| yankcrime | http://dischord.org/2015/12/30/archiving-data-in-nova-s-database/ | 18:42 |
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| albertcard | Yea. If you're someone who makes use of 'nova usage-list' then cleaning up the nova.instances table will screw up that output [further :-p ] | 18:44 |
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| Fl1nt | ok, what do you think of a public horizon endpoint based on three host with: MariaDB (Galera)/Horizon/Neutron/Nova/Glance/Cinder/Swift ? I planned to start with 3 compute node + 3 Cinder on CEPH storage nodes. | 18:46 |
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| yankcrime | that's a pretty standard arrangement | 18:47 |
| albertcard | Agreed | 18:47 |
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| Fl1nt | I'm wondering if collocating Compute and Storage nodes is a good idea? I'm afraid of hitting IOPS limits du to the pretty Write intensive nature of our final product which will be hosted on the stack. | 18:48 |
| Fl1nt | ok, nice so | 18:48 |
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| albertcard | i wouldn't combine cinder/compute ....You're asking for trouble and moves away from the "cloudy" approach | 18:48 |
| Fl1nt | ok, that was my educated guess, thx a lot for your help both of you albertcard & yankcrime | 18:49 |
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| Fl1nt | I had a look at how extend Horizon "dashboard/tabs/etc" it's pretty smooth, I'm following OpenStack evolve back from Diablo, and I have to confess that I'm amaze by how it is maturing quickly those days. | 18:50 |
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| Fl1nt | Ok, so thanks a lot for your help and advices, see ya folks! | 19:12 |
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| d_code_ | I’m working off Mitaka using Kolla…I’m trying to do a PCI passthrough of a network card (need the full physical function). I’ve managed to get nova-compute to show the pci devices in the “Final resource view” log entry… I see the message in nova-scheduler where it claims the PciPassthrough filter is removing all systems for my flavor…I can only guess something in between is not matching up | 20:16 |
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| d_code_ | the properties of my flavor shows: pci_passthrough:alias='capture_nic:1' | 20:16 |
| d_code_ | and in my nova.conf I have: pci_alias = {vendor_id": "8086", "product_id": "10fb", "name":"capture_nic" } | 20:17 |
| d_code_ | this gets pushed out to all systems currently | 20:17 |
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| d_code_ | what can I do to dig deeper here? can I debug the database calls to see if there’s some mismatch? | 20:18 |
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| d_code_ | I have the following when I restart my nova-compute node: pci_stats=[PciDevicePool(count=2,numa_node=0,product_id='10fb',tags={dev_type='type-PF'},vendor_id='8086')] | 20:20 |
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| BiGG_D | Would here be an appropriate place to ask about issues with getting Ubuntu's MAAS to deploy openstack, or is some place better? | 20:54 |
| BiGG_D | is there some place better | 20:54 |
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