Friday, 2016-01-15

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auzzieZiLi0n: I'm not entirely sure but I get the feeling the answer would be no00:06
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auzzieOh, they left00:07
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quick_questionHi all!00:16
auzzieHey00:17
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quick_questionDo you know how manage permissions to region?00:18
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quick_questionI see 'add_endpoint_group_to_project' in 'keystone/policy.json'00:20
quick_questionis it right direction?00:20
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auzzieI'm not quite to sure, might I suggest hitting up the openstack-operators mailing list?00:22
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lcurtiscan someone offer some guidance why a bridge and vxlan would not be automatically created on controller node in openstack liberty?01:19
auzzieDo you have any instance currently active?01:20
lcurtisyes01:20
lcurtisvxlan created on compute01:20
lcurtisnode01:20
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lcurtisbut not on controller01:21
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auzzieare there services (e.g. dhcp, metadata) running on the controller that would require the bridges and vxlans to be created?01:21
lcurtisyes those services are active01:22
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lcurtisthe bridge for external flat network is created01:22
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lcurtisbut not the vxlan tunnel / bridge01:23
auzzieIs there anything in the neutron server/linux-bridge agent logs?01:23
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lcurtispinhmm..timeout to itself01:26
lcurtisin neutron server log01:26
lcurtis(5492) timed out ('10.0.129.125', 52811)01:27
auzziewhat agent are you using?01:27
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lcurtislinuxbridge / vxlan01:27
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auzzieIs that the whole log line?01:28
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lcurtisjsut restarted01:29
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lcurtiswaiting to see if comes back01:29
lcurtiswhat service would i restart to try initiate new tunnel....linux bridge agent and neutron-server?01:30
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auzzieThe agent as it should query to see what bridges, tunnels, etc should be formed and create them if they don't exist01:31
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lcurtisand vxlan should be on interface with an ip01:32
lcurtis?01:32
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auzzieI'm not sure, I don't have experience with VXLAN01:34
lcurtisokay01:34
lcurtisthanks so much for your help01:34
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auzzieThats ok, I know how frustrating it can be when you hit a problem with OpenStack and need help01:35
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auzzielcurtis: Quickly reading over some VXLAN documents I would expect the agent to 1) build the bridge 2) make the tap interface for the service (dhcp/metadata) attached to the tunnel with the IP defined for the service on that network01:43
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jidarthere's a decent book by Denton called Learning Openstack Networking (Neutron) Second Ed, I recommend it01:56
jidarthat and the docs.openstack.org on networking are pretty good at going into depth on the subject01:57
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auzzieIt's really only VXLAN I don't know much about. We have one of the OpenStack networking books here at my work but I can't get a hold of it right now (errrg)01:58
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lcurtisauzzie: thanks so much02:23
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auzzieHmm?02:23
lcurtisim wondering if some config file or typo ive made02:23
lcurtisi appreciate your help02:24
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auzzieI'm glad to of helped and I apologise that I can't help much more, the only other thing I can suggest is either keep asking here or send a email to the openstack operators mailing list02:25
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lcurtisso an agent on the controller02:26
lcurtisit should be similar to ovs02:26
argargablarOh hey, I was about to ask here about this, thanks lcurtis02:27
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lcurtisfor sure02:27
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argargablarbut yeah, this is super frustrating02:31
lcurtisu have same issue?02:31
lcurtisno bridge being built02:31
lcurtis?02:31
lcurtisor vxlan?02:31
argargablarI haven't tried restarting things yet02:32
argargablarbut the vxlan02:32
argargablarthe bridges seem to work just fine02:32
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rkbhow is OpenStack different from AWS? AWS guy here trying OpenStack for the first time, ton of similarities02:33
lcurtisyeah my bridges start, vxlan comes up on compute but not controller02:33
lcurtisfollowing liberty docs02:33
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woonis there a place where i can find some good network isolation yaml files? i have a 3/3/3 kilo installed wtih tripleo and wanted to seperate out the external and storage network out from the tenant/api/storage mgmt and tried all different combinations and they all failed...02:41
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mech422__Anyone know where I can find a howto/explanation on how to use 'non-primary' domains when you have multi-domain setup ?02:51
auzzieWhat do you mean by "non-primary"02:51
mech422__I basically have my env vars set for admin domain, admin project, admin user - but sometime I need to say update the default firewall rules for demo domain, sales project02:52
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mech422__auzzie: I keep trying to pass --os-project-name and --os-domain-name to openstack, but then it whines about scopes02:52
mech422__err... --os-project-name and --os-project-domain rather02:53
auzziecan you drop the whole command here that you are trying to run?02:53
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mech422__auzzie: lets say I want to run : nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/002:54
mech422__for domain foo project bar02:54
mech422__but my env vars are already set for domain admin project admin - I have access to domain foo project bar (its an admin account) - but I can never figure out the right permutation of options to pass on the command line02:55
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mech422__I always end up having to go into horizon and 'set domain context' to domain foo, then add the rule/whatever thru the web... kinda annoying02:57
auzzienova secgroup-add-rule --os-domain-name foo --os-project-name bar --os-project-domain foo icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/002:57
auzzieThat should do it I think02:57
auzzieThe only other thing I can think of that would be stoping it is that the user doesn't have access to the project02:58
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mech422__auzzie: that tells me it could not find the project :-/02:59
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auzzieopenstack project list --domain foo02:59
auzzieRun that and see if the project is listed03:00
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mech422__auzzie: yeah - that lists it03:01
auzziehmmmm03:03
mech422__auzzie: I just find it really hard to figure out which options control who I'm authing as vs which options specify what I want to access03:04
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auzzieIs the user you are using in the CLI a user that is assigned to the project in which your trying to change?03:05
auzzie(derped with the project list command because if your an admin it will still show the list)03:06
mech422__auzzie: umm - no?  the CLI user is an admin user - but not actually in all the other domains/projects03:06
auzzieokie dokie, just a sec, gonna try something on my stack03:07
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mech422__auzzie: One thing that might muck it up - my admin domain/user is sql backed, but my 'regular' projects are in a domain backed by ldap03:08
auzzieGot the same thing here, just gonna test it out03:08
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mech422__Thanks!03:09
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auzziemech442__: I was kind of successful03:21
auzziein our setup we have a superadmin (brtmis) in the default domain and all other account are under the ldap domain03:22
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auzzierunnings this command: nova secgroup-add-rule --os-user-domain-name default --os-project-domain-name bluereef --os-project-name DevOps default icmp -1 -1 240.0.0.0/1603:22
auzzierunning*03:22
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auzzieAlmost worked, but got told the use didn't have access to the project03:22
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auzzieSo it seems even admin users can't do it unless they are assigned to the project03:23
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auzzieWhich is impossible if the user is in the domain with SQL and the project is in another domain with LDAP03:23
mech422__auzzie: thats weird - horizon lets me do it with the same credentials ?03:23
auzzieMine doesn't, I just logged into the superadmin on our dashboard and I can only access the admin project in the default domain03:24
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mech422__auzzie: if you go to 'identity' -> 'domains' and click 'set domain context' does it let you ?03:25
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mech422__auzzie: after I do that, I can go to 'project'-> 'access and security' and manage the default security group for that domain03:26
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auzzieIn the drop down on the top bar, what project does it say your in, because when I do that i'm still in "default - admin"03:27
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mech422__same - 'default - admin'03:28
mech422__but I can still access the security group/etc with admin privs03:28
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auzziesecurity groups are on a per-project basis, if you in the admin project under default (even when the context is set for another domain) you are still setting the rules for the wrong security group03:29
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auzzieMight need to have this blueprinted that so when a user is in a different domain context they can access the project under that domain03:30
auzzieSorry that I really couldn't help much with actually resolving this03:31
mech422__auzzie: Hmm -I just logged in as an ldap user with admin in that project - the secgroup rules were still there03:32
mech422__I'm gonna delete them and try readding them thru the 'admin' domain03:32
auzzieok03:32
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mech422__auzzie: yep - there still there when I look at them thru domain context03:34
mech422__auzzie: LOL - wonder how much of my networking problems were due to that :-P03:34
mech422__"why wont this ping!"03:34
auzzieSo editing the security group after setting the domain context doesn't affect the rules in the other domain?03:35
mech422__auzzie: let me try...03:36
mech422__they are still there though, so I doubt it ?03:36
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auzzieSo you logged in as a LDAP user, changed the security group and logged out. Then logged in as the SQL user and set the domain context and the rules weren't the same?03:37
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auzzie(sorry, just a bit confused)03:37
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mech422__auzzie: I logged as a ldap user, deleted the icpm/ssh rules from the default security group..logged out03:38
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mech422__auzzie: logged in as sql user, 'set domain context' to the ldap domain, examined default security group - icmp/ssh still there03:39
auzzieOk, yup, so as I thought, the domain context doesn't affect the projects you are looking at/editing03:39
mech422__auzzie: delete the icmp/ssh rules while logged in as admin and 'set domain context' - re-added icmp rule with 10.255.0.0/8 ... logged out03:40
mech422__auzzie: logged in as sql use - no icmp rule at all03:40
mech422__auzzie: yeah - your right - I've been adding icmp to my admin :-P03:40
auzzieOk, so this is confirmed then, I get the feeling this should be blueprinted or bug reported03:41
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auzzieIf you want to do that you can03:41
auzzieDo want to credit steal from ya03:41
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mech422__LOL - steal away - I'm just a rabbid button pusher :-P03:42
auzzieSame here, we always trying to break it first before using it xD03:42
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mech422__All this time I thought 'set domain context' was ~= 'su - foo'03:42
auzziehonestly I feel it should be03:42
auzzieOther wise it kind of has no meaning03:43
mech422__that would be more intuative...03:43
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mech422__so I guess all it lets me do is manage group members in the domain I'm 'set context' to?03:43
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auzziePretty much really, that and edit a few domain related items in the admin sections03:44
mech422__huh...03:44
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auzzieFlavors and defaults are the only things affected by domain context I think03:45
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mech422__auzzie: so if I want to script adding a new domain, and adding icmp/ssh acess to the 'default' - do I have to use the OS_TOKEN auth ?03:45
auzzieI would imagine so but there is also a way to define what rules are added to the "default" security group on project creation I think03:46
mech422__I was trying to figure out where the 'default' defaults where stored, but I didn't really have time to burn on it03:47
mech422__I'd _love_ to be able to say "every VM should automagically get an eth0 connected to the VM mgmt network"03:48
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mech422__without having to manually drag it in via the web interface03:48
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auzzieYeah, if only ....03:48
* auzzie starts dreaming of it03:48
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mech422__auzzie: well thanks for the help :-)  I'm going to go overcompensate for feeling stupid by blasting some aliens :-)03:50
mech422__auzzie: have a great evening!03:50
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auzzieYou too!03:50
auzzieAnd glad to of helped!03:50
auzzieAnd you weren't stupid03:50
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auzziemech422__: Just expanding in the though, changing context wouldn't allow editing of the security groups in the other projects because not even keystone allows that. You have to be *in* the project to edit it's stuff03:53
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mech422__auzzie: Hmm - thats kind of a PITA when you have things like ldap based domains..06:08
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mech422__auzzie: you basically have to get added to every domain, regardless if there's a business reason for you to be in it06:08
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auzzieYarp, thankfully we only have the one domain needed here06:10
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auzzieThough it should really be allowed but configurable in the policy file06:10
auzziegotta go06:10
auzzieSeeya!06:10
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FenuksHello. Is it possible to use Postgres within Trove?08:39
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IvanJobsI think it's possible.09:34
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permalacmorning!09:35
permalacis there any good script to check all the keystone configuration ?09:35
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IvanJobslol, evening at my location now.09:35
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IvanJobshow do u mean by "check configuration"?09:36
permalacBarcelona here, and you?09:36
IvanJobsshang hai09:36
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permalacI'm with kilo, and swift is giving problems09:38
permalacswift -V3 stat gives authorization failure09:38
permalacand I would like to trace it09:38
permalacopenstack-status give some other problems on keystone area09:39
permalacalso an authorization failed09:39
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permalacI'm thinking that I have not understood the keystone good enough09:39
permalac(I would like to visit Shang Hai one day. I've seen awsome pics. )09:40
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permalacswift proxy server works without the keystone_auth on the pipeline09:44
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IvanJobshmm, I think you can check keystone's conf file, commonly in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf. or on official site there is a config reference for the whole openstack. hope will help u.09:52
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DavePageI've tried setting up a single-node OpenStack based on http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ - I've installed Horizon, but the same creds that work for the command line don't work on the login page. I've not found anything useful in log files; any suggestions for where I should look?09:58
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FenuksIn order to set up ssl/tls for openstack api is it enough to just put them all behind Reverse-HTTP-Proxy with HTTPS (like nginx)? Or do I have to set up something else inside service configs?10:04
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FenuksDavePage: What kind of authentication you use in command line?10:06
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DavePageFenuks: I set OS_PASSWORD and OS_USERNAME environment variables; same values give "Invalid credentials" in Horizon10:07
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FenuksDavePage: That is correct, they're the ones that should be accepted by Horizon. Check your endpoints for Horizon and Keystone, and make sure they resolve and are accessable with curl10:09
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DavePageThey're all localhost, this is a single-node setup :)10:10
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FenuksDavePage: Yes, but can it still contact itself through endpoints? For example, your server might be configured to listen only on eth0 address, while endpoints specify http://localhost — in that case cli will still work, but any communication between services will fail10:18
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DavePageFenuks: No, all the services are listening on 0.0.0.0 according to netstat :)10:20
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admin0 if i use glance to use swift as backend and i need to save 20gb images, should this max_file_size in swift  be set to 20gb ?10:36
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auzzieadmin0: yes10:38
auzzieadmin0: to be on the safe side10:38
admin0ok10:38
auzzieadmin0: I'm not sure if glance supports splitting the image and making the metadata file10:39
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admin0thanks .. will do accordingly10:40
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auzziestick around here, just checking the docs to see if they say anything10:41
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auzzieswift_store_large_object_size | Default: 5120 | What size, in MB, should Glance start chunking image files and do a large object manifest in Swift? By default, this is the maximum object size in Swift, which is 5GB | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/configuring.html10:47
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auzzieadmin010:49
admin0got it10:50
admin0so normal - 5gb, with glance, glance will chunk it10:50
auzzieYup10:50
auzzieSo no need to adjust the max file size10:51
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admin0i get timeouts and internal server errors 8/10 tries with big images10:51
admin0big = bigger than then 5gb10:51
auzzieHmmm10:52
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auzzieNot to sure now, glance should be splitting them at the 5120mb point10:54
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tty00hi all! how bad idea is it to use a nfs share for nova instances (nfs will be mounted under /var/lib/nova/instances)11:14
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auzzie-AFKtty00: Not the bad really, we currently use it11:20
auzzie-AFKThe drive the NFS is store on is a iSCSI drive provided by our dell SAN11:21
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tty00great :)11:23
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tty00does nova need to know that the /var/lib/instances is on shared storage?11:24
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auzzie-AFKNope11:24
auzzie-AFKAs long as the instance it is looking for is on file in that directory it is good11:24
auzzie-AFKif the NFS mount is lost the instance will go into read only mode till the mount comes back11:25
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permalacon Kilo, mongodb asks for an older version of libgc . is this expected?12:04
permalacdifferent version of glibc, not libgc. sorry.12:04
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auzzie-AFKpermalac: Are you sure the version of mongo you are trying to install was built for your kernel/system12:31
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auzzie-AFKYour glibc isn't defined by the OpenStack release but by the distro/kernel12:32
permalacits the one from the repos.12:32
permalacmaybe the EPEL came with a newer version?12:32
auzzie-AFKunlikely, check to make sure you have the current epel branch for you RHEL system12:33
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admin0what is the best way to add more storage-servers in existing swift and rebuild the ring ?12:35
admin0or if anyone has example of ringbuilder http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/objectstorage_ringbuilder.html12:35
auzzie-AFKadmin0: https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/adding-devices-to-an-existing-swift-cluster/12:36
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QuickHello everyone! Is it possible to restrict access to the Region for the Tenant or User (Juno)?12:39
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admin0auzzie: thanks13:07
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admin0any swift guru operators out here :D13:37
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mahm_Hello, I have a problem with floating ips ? anyone could help please ?13:48
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tty00mahm_: whats the problem?13:56
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mahm_the problem is I have allinone setup for openstack and I configured the local.conf file with the floating range and floating pool , public network and public interface ... then it is stacked successfully but when I gor for the dashboard to allocate floating ip .. I could not find any pools13:58
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tty00have you followed the guide?14:02
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mahm_I have found that in openstack guide :http://pastebin.com/CeLpAjfQ14:03
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tty00are you trying to allocate a floating ip as admin or as a user?14:06
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mahm_as an admin14:08
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mahm_I login in to the dashboard as an admin14:09
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tty00i have not used allinone by myself so i don't know what differs from the other installation14:16
mahm_I mean by allinone that compute and control  nodes are the same on one VM14:16
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mahm_when I add the floating through the CLI , it says the the service catalog is empty14:18
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mahm_so what that means ?14:18
danielkgreetings14:19
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danielki have run into a rather strange issue and I was wondering whether anyone could give me pointers what I could look into14:21
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danielkI have just deployed a fresh openstack kilo environment using puppet, and everything looks OK except one thing: neutron can not connect to the rabbitmq ... all the other services can. neutron uses the same username/password as all the others (nova, glance, cinder etc) and the rabbit_host and other parameters are the same14:23
danielkthe puppet manifests I am using are the same as for another system i have deployed earlier where that works without issues14:24
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danielkany ideas what I could look into for finding the reason for the problem?14:24
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tty00danielk: selinux? iptables?14:42
danielkiptables, unlikely because it all runs on the same hosts ... selinux, maybe14:43
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danielksetting selinux to permissive doesn't change anything ... the rabbitmq logs also quite explicitly say "invalid credentials"14:51
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danielkso it really looks like a wrong password rather than lack of permission to connect to the socket or something along those lines14:51
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mahm_Hello, I have a problem with floating ips the problem is I have allinone setup for openstack and I configured the local.conf file with the floating range and floating pool , public network and public interface ... then it is stacked successfully but when I gor for the dashboard to allocate floating ip .. I could not find any pools15:03
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nikoulHi there ! I have a question for you guys :)15:06
nikoulWhen I resize an instance, the instance can move to another compute, but i doesn't care about the host aggregate. Is it possible to force the instance to move to a compute on the same host aggregate ?15:06
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danielkmahm_ do you see subnets associated to your network in the network heading of the dashboard or in neutron net-list?15:07
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admin0if i add a new storage node  per zone, the rebalance replication is contained within that zone right ?15:33
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admin0in swift15:33
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hyakuheihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-mitaka-midcycle-threatanalysis15:36
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hyakuheiSorry, wrong room15:37
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argargablarI have a question, after configuring Neutron on CentOS 7 with Liberty, rebooting my controller node takes forever. It appears that it's stuck on stopping the Neutron Server and DHCP agents among other things15:42
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argargablarbut I can't figure out why it's stuck15:42
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cerealso i'm working on building out a POC openstack for our infrastructure here and I've got some quotes from some vendors suggesting 2 controller nodes and 4 compute / storage nodes to deal with as we get this off the ground, does this seem reasonable?15:47
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Sam-I-Amcereal: depends what you're doing16:48
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cerealSam-I-Am, at the moment just trying to get some internal services hosted but be able to have enough hardware to ensure HA, though not for VMs17:05
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rickyremcereal: You should be able to get away with 2 of each server.17:07
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marcin12345Does anybody know if it is safe to increase "osapi_compute_workers" to number twice as high as #cores?18:34
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marcin12345I am trying to increase performance of openstack, concurrency18:34
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stupidnicin liberty how do I list all tenants? I tried keystone tenant-list but I am getting a 404 from keystone (which I assume is an API versioning issue) there is no command in the openstack cli18:53
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Sam-I-Amstupidnic: openstack project list18:55
Sam-I-Amthey're not called tenants anymore18:55
stupidnicsigh18:55
stupidnicYeah that makes perfect sense18:55
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stupidnicI had target fixation with the word tenant18:56
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Sam-I-Amlots of people do19:00
Sam-I-Amtry writing docs and still having to do 'project (tenant)'19:01
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jidarheh, when I switched ovre to the new client for some stuff, I sat there staring at the command output for ever trying to figure out where tenant was19:27
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konetzedAnyone know if you can just move a instance between  availability zones by just updating  instances.availability_zone in the nova database?23:15
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konetzedsorry lost internet connection if anyone replied to my question23:18
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clarkbkonetzed: there wasn't an answer (and unfortunately I don't know, that said I owuld be surprised if that was the case)23:21
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konetzedclarkb: tnx23:23
konetzedwe just decided we didnt need a zone so i wanted to move them back from that one to the main nova one23:23
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SamYaplekonetzed: you can use the migrate command for this23:24
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SamYapleor maybe only with live-migration can you do this, but there is a command to let you move an instance between zones23:25
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konetzedSamYaple: i dont want them to move hosts though23:25
SamYaplebut the host is only in a single AZ23:26
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konetzedthe problem was we had a zone for a team but they decied it was better to pool resources so i moved all the boxes into nova23:26
konetzedand the existing vms are still in the old AZ23:26
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konetzedat least in the db23:26
SamYapleoh thats an old bug23:26
SamYaplelet me see if i can find that23:26
SamYaplei think in this case you can jsut update the database with the new value since the compute host itself determins the az23:27
SamYapleah i think this is the bug i remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/145256823:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452568 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova allows to live-migrate instance from one availability zone to another" [Low,Confirmed]23:27
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SamYapleanyway, i have to head out23:28
SamYaplehope you figure it out!23:28
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konetzedSamYaple: thanks for your help23:28
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