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| RageLtMan | Anyone around? im trying to hunt down a very odd neutron bug - machine can connect to another machine in the public network, but cant properly transfer data across the link. socket is open, reads from socket (HTTPS), but then hangs | 00:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: what kind of network(s) | 00:22 |
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| RageLtMan | Sam-I-Am: its VXLAN | 00:29 |
| RageLtMan | the private nets are vxlan, and the public net here is also a vxlan (we have an outside public VLAN and an inside public vxlan) | 00:29 |
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| RageLtMan | ICMP works, TCP socket connects, but appears to die establishing TLS context | 00:30 |
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| RageLtMan | both hosts are behind different virtual routers, with security groups allowing all outbound, and inbound on the port being accessed for the machine being accessed | 00:30 |
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| RageLtMan | we know the service is ok because when its hit from the outside public net, it works just fine (its a chef server, so we'd know right quick if we couldn't provision) | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like a mtu problem | 00:31 |
| RageLtMan | woof | 00:31 |
| RageLtMan | does neutron not reconfigure MTU when it goes between networks? | 00:31 |
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| RageLtMan | because i think i DO have the client in an MTU 9K net, but the router should address that... no? | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope | 00:32 |
| RageLtMan | (the physical MTU is 9134) | 00:32 |
| RageLtMan | umm | 00:32 |
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| RageLtMan | that seems like a major deviation from normal networking | 00:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | mtu needs to be end-to-end | 00:32 |
| RageLtMan | so basically all VMs in a stack have to have the same MTU? | 00:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its always manually configured | 00:32 |
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| RageLtMan | wait a sec. how the hell does that work? we go through two NATs, aka L3 translations, so how could MTU stay the same as that's an L2 construct? | 00:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, mtu doesnt NEED to be end-to-end, but if icmp messages to reduce it are blocked or not sent... no bueno | 00:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | question is, whats the mtu on all the bits between your VM and the nearest router? | 00:34 |
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| jf2 | i was gonna say the same thing. vxlan adds padding to the packet. i would think it would only fragment tho, making it less efficient, not hang | 00:34 |
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| RageLtMan | physical MTU is 9134 | 00:34 |
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| RageLtMan | client VM (in its VXLAN) is 9k | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | jf2: depends on some things | 00:34 |
| RageLtMan | all physical MTUs are 9134 or whatever the max allowed by the networking hardware is (its over 9100) | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: the neutron parts | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this ovs or lb? | 00:35 |
| RageLtMan | ovs | 00:35 |
| RageLtMan | whats lb? | 00:35 |
| RageLtMan | load balance? | 00:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbridge | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | another agent type. ovs uses a linuxbridge to implement secgroups anyway | 00:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you have both | 00:35 |
| RageLtMan | from what i can see neutron uses both, but its the ovs plugin | 00:35 |
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| RageLtMan | hmm, ok, so one subnet is set to 8950 | 00:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | you need to check mtu vm -> linuxbridge -> br-int -> br-tun -> tunnelnet to node with l3 agent -> br-tun -> br-int -> br-??? | 00:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | actually the last br-int goes into your router i think | 00:36 |
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| RageLtMan | hmm | 00:37 |
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| RageLtMan | this is weird | 00:37 |
| RageLtMan | all of the networks are showing 8950 in neutron - both the internal VXLAN and the intermediate public VXLAN | 00:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: can you see what size frame the vm is trying to send, and where it gets stuck? | 00:51 |
| RageLtMan | the frames on all of these are 8950 | 00:54 |
| RageLtMan | where it gets stuck is the confusing piece | 00:54 |
| RageLtMan | man oh man do we need an integrated iface tracer in neutron | 00:55 |
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| RageLtMan | walking the OVS+linux bridge veths and structures is like doing your own dental work (and i mean root canals or extractions, not the cleaning piffle) | 00:56 |
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| jidar | can I switch keystone's PublicURL and AdminURL endpoint? Basically replace the config of the PublicURL with the AdminURL without it causing issues? | 00:58 |
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| jidar | so the URL for both Public/Admin would be just the Admin URL | 00:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | jidar: think so | 01:00 |
| jidar | I'd imagine one would usurp the other, but don't know for sure | 01:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can tell which endpoint for your client to use | 01:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | or which endpoint for services to use when they talk to other services | 01:01 |
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| jidar | hmm, would keystone's PublicURL even offer the data for endpoint-list or user-list? | 01:02 |
| jidar | because the client by default wants to use the AdminURL for that info | 01:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | endpoints are public info | 01:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | because all things need them | 01:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | user-list is not | 01:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should be able to list public endpoints without any special creds | 01:04 |
| jidar | that's weird, because it fails for me and trys to hit the AdminURL | 01:04 |
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| jidar | >Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. | 01:05 |
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| jidar | very goofy imho | 01:05 |
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| jidar | same exports on a host that has all network access, bam no issues just returns the endpoint-list | 01:05 |
| RageLtMan | and tracepath doesnt work in neutron? | 01:06 |
| RageLtMan | nice | 01:06 |
| jidar | even ran a tcpdump to confirm | 01:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: what? | 01:06 |
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| RageLtMan | running tracepath between the hosts just gives lots of "no reply" | 01:07 |
| RageLtMan | between the VMs | 01:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | what happens with ping using large packet sizes? | 01:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | some things like SSH like to enable DF on encryption handshakes | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i assume TLS applies | 01:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've seen a lot of cases where people can ping stuff, http just fine... ssh/tls... dead. | 01:08 |
| RageLtMan | there we go | 01:09 |
| RageLtMan | anything over ping -s 1472 fails | 01:09 |
| RageLtMan | there's a 1500 cap with 28 bytes added in somewhere | 01:09 |
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| kysse | ping -M do -s 1472 targrt ip | 01:10 |
| RageLtMan | oh great | 01:10 |
| RageLtMan | it cant ping its own router at the MTU set on its interface | 01:10 |
| RageLtMan | so in-subnet (single vxlan) i have some sort of problem | 01:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably because there's a low mtu in the middle | 01:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | there are a LOT of interfaces between your VM and the router | 01:10 |
| RageLtMan | shouldnt neutron configure them all at the same MTU? kinda defeats the purpose otherwise :) | 01:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: what release is this? | 01:11 |
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| RageLtMan | kilo | 01:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | ehhhh | 01:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | sort of | 01:11 |
| RageLtMan | in plugin.ini neutron has path_mtu set @ 9k | 01:12 |
| RageLtMan | sort of? | 01:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the spec was slowly implemented, but dont think it was completely done back then due to ... nova integration problem? | 01:12 |
| RageLtMan | manual config on a per-vm or network basis strikes me as the opposite of orchestration :) | 01:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, it requires coordination with nova because they plug things into neutron | 01:12 |
| RageLtMan | balls. | 01:12 |
| RageLtMan | k. so where does one start looking? | 01:12 |
| RageLtMan | the veth of the VM, the lxbr, then ovs on the nova node? | 01:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is something i need to put on my list of stuff | 01:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep, all the pieces | 01:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | see where its not what you told it | 01:13 |
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| RageLtMan | the lxbr pieces corresponding with the ID all show MTU of 65000 | 01:17 |
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| kysse | 65000 sounds pretty high? | 01:18 |
| RageLtMan | right? | 01:18 |
| RageLtMan | but they're not real NICs all veths and patches/bridges. | 01:18 |
| kysse | ah | 01:19 |
| kysse | show me your interface file or are you using ovs | 01:19 |
| RageLtMan | ovs | 01:19 |
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| RageLtMan | ovs with vxlan | 01:19 |
| kysse | oh lord | 01:19 |
| RageLtMan | plugin.ini is set to 9K mtu | 01:19 |
| RageLtMan | but i cant pass anything over 1472 (1500 with 28b pad) | 01:19 |
| kysse | ans yoi switched your physical access ports too? | 01:20 |
| kysse | to 9k mtu | 01:20 |
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| kysse | and you* | 01:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: you could also ping large and tcpdump along the path | 01:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might be easier to isolate the problem | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | although tcpdumping within ovs is a pain | 01:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | time to locate dinner | 01:27 |
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| kysse | is it still running? | 01:28 |
| kysse | happy hunting. | 01:29 |
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| RageLtMan | Sam-I-Am: the bug i'm dealing with seems to be marked as "https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1419069" and it looks like they've added ml2 fields for this. just tried to force everything up to 9K, service restarts didnt help though so trying to HUP the hosts themselves now | 05:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419069 in neutron "Network Performance Problem with GRE using Openvswitch" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:57 |
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| muralis | Hello | 06:32 |
| muralis | anyone here to help me with Cloudkitty | 06:32 |
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| manu95 | hi all a quick question this morning I have a lot of connection reset http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-kilo/el7/openstack-nova-common-2015.1.1-1.el7.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] curl#56 - "Recv failure: Connection reset by peer" , have you already got this ? | 08:37 |
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| egonzalez | https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-kilo/el7/openstack-nova-common-2015.1.1-1.el7.noarch.rpm | 08:40 |
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| egonzalez | the url you are looking is http | 08:40 |
| egonzalez | s/http/https | 08:40 |
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| manu95 | I use yum that downnload through http , I have met many connection resetted by peer this morning I never had this behavior | 08:59 |
| RageLtMan | how do i figure out where traffic goes after br-int, and what the flow constraints are. all my physical interfaces and bridges are @ 9K MTU and i cant pass anything over 1500 | 08:59 |
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| RageLtMan | exactly the sort of thing we couldn't deal with in cloudstack anymore :( | 08:59 |
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| tty00 | trying to run the command: add-apt-repository cloud-archive:liberty and got a traceback with the error message: Must be one of %(ca_names)s | 10:02 |
| tty00 | anything you can help me with? | 10:02 |
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| jamespage | tty00, hmm - can you make sure you have up-to-date software-properties-common? | 10:15 |
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| RageLtMan | RBD did something bad to every volume i backed up | 10:24 |
| tty00 | i had big, fat, chips fingers | 10:25 |
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| tty00 | didn't change suite name in my preseed file... so it was a ubuntu 12.04 instead of a 14.04 ;D | 10:25 |
| tty00 | sorry to bother you | 10:25 |
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| Diplomat | Hmm | 10:58 |
| Diplomat | openstack hypervisor list | 10:58 |
| Diplomat | Unexpected API Error. Please report this at http://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/ and attach the Nova API log if possible. | 10:58 |
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| Diplomat | Interesting.. nova stil has my server that i removed | 10:59 |
| RageLtMan | At least you get errors :). Ceph just ate a bunch of volumes. They mount fine in host OS but wont boot as a VM. Converting them to cinder images corrupts them even further. good god it this a clusterf... | 10:59 |
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| Diplomat | lol damn | 11:01 |
| Diplomat | your name justifies itself | 11:01 |
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| RageLtMan | goes back to the days when ATI called their cards "rage pro" or what not and induced that sense in me. apparently permanently as i became a systems engineer... | 11:02 |
| Diplomat | I think yes, what I found is a bug.. but not a bug for that issue I'm having, but when I "removed" my hypervisor.. it didnt delete it from nova.compute_nodes table.. so there are 2 of them atm | 11:02 |
| RageLtMan | whats the scheduler think of this? | 11:02 |
| Diplomat | I think I'll wait for Sam-I-Am or whoever is more boss here and get approval of that bug report | 11:02 |
| Diplomat | Ah.. a sysops | 11:03 |
| Diplomat | how much xanax you eat daily ? | 11:03 |
| Diplomat | like cereal in the morning ? | 11:03 |
| Diplomat | :( | 11:03 |
| RageLtMan | pure unadulterated hatred can go a long way, better than frosted flakes. | 11:04 |
| Diplomat | have you tried hitting it with a hammer ? | 11:04 |
| RageLtMan | man, ceph really stuck it to me, with all its legs. | 11:04 |
| Diplomat | sometimes unexpected solutions work | 11:04 |
| RageLtMan | if i have to drive to the datacenter to hit things with a hammer it shall be a mallet | 11:04 |
| Diplomat | true | 11:05 |
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| RageLtMan | sleep is required | 11:05 |
| Diplomat | one of the reasons why i didnt pick ceph was that cinder is built for openstack | 11:05 |
| RageLtMan | we have both | 11:05 |
| Diplomat | so im trying to be secure as possible :D | 11:05 |
| RageLtMan | multiple back-ends, ceph just did something stupid methinks | 11:06 |
| RageLtMan | couple of the OSDs needed repairs, got those done, everything ran, then after a reboot of the VMs they dont come up while others in ceph do. | 11:06 |
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| RageLtMan | only think i can think of is i forced a backup of those volumes while they were running (cinder doesnt seem to care when this is done) and now i'm boned. | 11:06 |
| Diplomat | I'm not happy at all that I had to DELETE FROM compute_nodes WHERE id= :( | 11:07 |
| RageLtMan | Try cloudstack, you'll be a regular DBA in a week. | 11:07 |
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| Diplomat | I already am dba lol | 11:07 |
| RageLtMan | those bastards make even CLI monkeys like me remember the mouse fondly | 11:07 |
| RageLtMan | condolences | 11:07 |
| Diplomat | with a fukin certificate :( | 11:07 |
| * RageLtMan offers Diplomat cookie and half of my arsenic | 11:08 | |
| RageLtMan | Hatef... is a team sport | 11:08 |
| * Diplomat refuses and eats his bowl of xanax | 11:08 | |
| RageLtMan | cinder's image conversion procedures are a bit creepy. | 11:08 |
| Diplomat | well.. my main profession is programming so I'm good | 11:08 |
| Diplomat | fun thing is | 11:09 |
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| Diplomat | one day I was messing with cpanel.. it's mysql didnt want to boot because it couldnt write to /tmp after i created a "secure temp folder". | 11:09 |
| Diplomat | So.. I fixed it and for some reason mysql was in read only mode.. | 11:09 |
| Diplomat | no errors or notifications or anything | 11:09 |
| Diplomat | just read only mode | 11:10 |
| Diplomat | and then i found that in mysql config.. i had one setting set to 1 | 11:10 |
| Diplomat | which set innodb to read only | 11:10 |
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| Diplomat | actually i haven't researched openstack's storage stuff that much, so i dont know much about it.. but i have been working a lot with networking and nova | 11:12 |
| RageLtMan | networking is another fun piece | 11:12 |
| Diplomat | I'm actually thinking about investing a bit for 10gbps switch and upgrade my server's nics to 10gbps | 11:12 |
| RageLtMan | turns out you cant set MTU above 1400 on any VM since neutron doesnt actually regulate the entire network pipeline | 11:12 |
| Diplomat | yup | 11:13 |
| Diplomat | i had mtu problems too | 11:13 |
| RageLtMan | not sure how to fix it | 11:13 |
| RageLtMan | we built this thing with 9K in mind | 11:13 |
| Diplomat | check dnsmaq | 11:13 |
| Diplomat | it regulates it | 11:13 |
| Diplomat | also you have jumbo packets or wtf they are enabled ? | 11:13 |
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| RageLtMan | our NICs and switch run at 9100+ | 11:13 |
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| RageLtMan | neutron is set to 9k | 11:14 |
| RageLtMan | with VXLAN that should be about 9050 | 11:14 |
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| RageLtMan | VMs are set at 8950 just in case | 11:14 |
| RageLtMan | cant pass anything over 1472 (28b pad to 1500) | 11:14 |
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| RageLtMan | tried setting every damned iface to 9k | 11:14 |
| Diplomat | hm | 11:14 |
| RageLtMan | even on the nova node running the VM i never see ICMP over 1500 hit br-tun | 11:15 |
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| RageLtMan | something local to the compute nodes is f'n me | 11:15 |
| RageLtMan | while sorting that out i rebooted the cluster after reconfiguring neutron and now realize ceph hosed my VMs | 11:15 |
| Diplomat | but compute nodes itself have that setting too | 11:15 |
| RageLtMan | compute node NICs are all 9k or higher | 11:16 |
| Diplomat | yes but does it shows in os ? | 11:16 |
| RageLtMan | yes | 11:16 |
| RageLtMan | as 9k | 11:16 |
| RageLtMan | host-to-host i can run 9126 all day | 11:16 |
| Diplomat | i think network guys have worse job than dbas | 11:16 |
| Diplomat | i wouldnt suggest becoming a network guy even to my enemy | 11:17 |
| RageLtMan | internally to a single host, through the mess of feces which is neutron's back-end, it fails to move the packets | 11:17 |
| Diplomat | are are using kilo ? | 11:19 |
| RageLtMan | yeah | 11:19 |
| Diplomat | you * | 11:19 |
| Diplomat | hmm | 11:19 |
| Diplomat | ovs ? | 11:19 |
| RageLtMan | with vxlan, yep | 11:19 |
| RageLtMan | how did you fix yours? | 11:19 |
| Diplomat | i think you can use linuxbridge too, but someone smarter must confirm it | 11:19 |
| RageLtMan | it uses that anyway | 11:19 |
| RageLtMan | ovs uses lb for sec groups | 11:20 |
| Diplomat | well i did something with dnsmasq | 11:20 |
| RageLtMan | apparently iptables dont work in ovs context | 11:20 |
| Diplomat | i dont remember atm | 11:20 |
| RageLtMan | hmm, shall look into it - likely you set DHCP options to reduce client MTU | 11:20 |
| Diplomat | hold on | 11:21 |
| Diplomat | http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-network-node.html | 11:22 |
| Diplomat | "To configure the DHCP agent" | 11:22 |
| Diplomat | there's this 2. (optional) | 11:22 |
| Diplomat | that worked for me | 11:22 |
| RageLtMan | Thanks, will try that next once i figure out how to get my data back | 11:23 |
| Diplomat | what happened to your data ? | 11:23 |
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| Diplomat | i know you wrote already but i forgot and got confused | 11:24 |
| Diplomat | :D | 11:24 |
| RageLtMan | data seems to be there, rbd volumes are mountable, but i'm having to convert the RBD volumes in-place | 11:24 |
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| RageLtMan | hosts wont boot | 11:24 |
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| RageLtMan | get stuck during init | 11:24 |
| Diplomat | any errors ? | 11:24 |
| RageLtMan | just hang | 11:25 |
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| Diplomat | does ceph has an irc channel ? | 11:25 |
| Diplomat | maybe you could ask from there | 11:25 |
| rozie | cloud init may set MTU 1500 by default | 11:25 |
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| rozie | and both DBAs and network admins have normal jobs. admin like anything else | 11:27 |
| RageLtMan | while i appreciate the solutions for getting VMs running on a small MTU. i didn't buy thousands of dollars of 10/40G network hardware to run 1400 bytes per frame. this is a really serious gap, and it seems all the stacks have cobbled-together-networking. NFV is really NFHack | 11:27 |
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| Diplomat | I wonder if I can set up just swift cloud... like 1 controller + N swift nodes | 11:27 |
| rozie | used to work as network admin ;) | 11:27 |
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| Diplomat | rozie: yes, they do have "normal" jobs, but networking can be ridiculously difficult | 11:27 |
| rozie | RageLtMan: what is MTU shown in VM? | 11:27 |
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| RageLtMan | 8950 | 11:27 |
| RageLtMan | any ping with -s above 1472 fails, not even seen in the nova node's br-tun | 11:28 |
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| rozie | Diplomat: no, it's the same as sysadmin. of course sometimes strange things happen, but... | 11:28 |
| Diplomat | I'd rather be a sysadmin than a network dude :( | 11:28 |
| RageLtMan | manually forcing all the NICs and bridges to MTU of 9K doesnt help. there's some silly veth or vxlan port, or something using the wrong MTU | 11:28 |
| rozie | if hardware is OK, it's nothing unusal | 11:28 |
| rozie | the fun begins, when there's a problem in hardware | 11:29 |
| Diplomat | I'm not sure if being a web designer is worse than being a networking admin.. I still have to think about it, but being a web designer is as bad as being net admin | 11:29 |
| rozie | of course no way to debug, as this is closed source | 11:29 |
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| rozie | RageLtMan: what's MTU on the other interfaces? bridges etc. | 11:30 |
| Diplomat | I think it's the best to be a programmer.. it's easy and it wont be affected by external problems + if it's done it's done (software is never done.. it's just when you print text then it prints text not upgrades nic drivers) | 11:31 |
| RageLtMan | all 9k | 11:31 |
| RageLtMan | everything that takes an mtu parameter has been set to 9k | 11:31 |
| RageLtMan | its in the OVS somewhere :( | 11:31 |
| RageLtMan | i still cant quite figure out how data goes from the lx bridge into the appropriate tunnel from the ovs patch | 11:31 |
| Diplomat | I remember when Sam-I-Am warned be of OVS.. good old days | 11:31 |
| rozie | is it testing environment? | 11:31 |
| RageLtMan | no | 11:32 |
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| RageLtMan | this went prod a few weeks ago and now that we have prod data in here ceph ate it | 11:32 |
| RageLtMan | vms are now stuck at mounting root file system and giving me the finger | 11:32 |
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| rozie | I'd try to test it step by step | 11:32 |
| Diplomat | but shouldnt there be a timeout when mounting ? | 11:32 |
| rozie | assing IPs on bridges on both ends etc. | 11:32 |
| RageLtMan | i suppose there will be, its responsive, just stuck | 11:32 |
| Diplomat | maybe it's related to that networking issue ? | 11:33 |
| RageLtMan | rozie: did that, doesnt pass traffic between hosts that way. direct host-to-host i can do > 9K just fine | 11:33 |
| rozie | but not sure if it's safe in production environment | 11:33 |
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| rozie | can you paste ip a output from both tunnel ends? | 11:34 |
| Diplomat | the reason why im thinking that its related to networking is that.. when you have mtu issues things are not coming through (i dont know ceph is connected in kilo), but it's possible | 11:35 |
| Diplomat | my stuff just hanged there too.. no timeouts or anything just sit there | 11:35 |
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| RageLtMan | hmm. now bringing images from ceph into cinder causes "no bootable device" | 11:36 |
| RageLtMan | we may be boned | 11:36 |
| Diplomat | can you somehow upgrade to liberty ? | 11:37 |
| Diplomat | i found liberty to be much easier to manage than kilo | 11:37 |
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| RageLtMan | This is fuel-deployed so unlikely | 11:37 |
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| rozie | OTOH when I performed tests (OK, rsync/scp) MTU had very little effect | 11:39 |
| rozie | I mean change from 1500 to 9k | 11:39 |
| rozie | everybody tells it's important and has huge inpact on performance, but in practice it was barely visible | 11:41 |
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| RageLtMan | rozie, some high performance UDP use cases would beg to differ :) | 11:41 |
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| RageLtMan | i see. the image conversion doesnt realize that in ceph the blocksize is 512 and in our cinder LVM its 4k | 11:44 |
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| RageLtMan | wasnt an issue prior though, so kind of confused | 11:45 |
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| Diplomat | how are you mounting them | 11:47 |
| Diplomat | on boot or after boot ? | 11:47 |
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| RageLtMan | these are OS volumes | 11:48 |
| RageLtMan | converting from ceph image to cinder now corrupts the block device | 11:48 |
| RageLtMan | when i mount the rbd it shows 512/512, our cinder runs as 4096/8192 (4K native) | 11:48 |
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| RageLtMan | how do you create a cinder volume specifying block size? disk_utils.py seems to include blocksizing | 11:50 |
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| Diplomat | ohhh you are converting them to cinder | 11:51 |
| Diplomat | i need more coffee | 11:51 |
| Diplomat | you are using them for glance right ? | 11:51 |
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| RageLtMan | ceph backs glance, and is a backing DS for volumes too (multi-back-end) | 11:55 |
| RageLtMan | our iSCSI is rather optimized under cinder, and looks like openstack doesnt know about block sizing. its making partitions much larger than the volume. | 11:55 |
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| RageLtMan | every basic tunable is massively broken - disk block sizing, MTU... wonder how many openstack engineers learn to fly off of bridges :) | 11:56 |
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| RageLtMan | i need a break, hopefully sam will be back soon and possibly point me to a solution or a proper bridge. | 11:57 |
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| Diplomat | he should be online n about um.. 4 hours or so | 11:58 |
| Diplomat | he's online usually around 17:00-18:00 my time and it's 13:59 | 11:59 |
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| ramonskie | im currently on flatdhcp and i'm out of ips some told me here https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/86234/flatdhcpmanager-out-of-static-ips/?answer=86385#post-id-86385 that i can migrate to vlan manager | 12:00 |
| ramonskie | any can help me with this? | 12:00 |
| ramonskie | or maby other options | 12:01 |
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| RageLtMan | Well, at least my data isnt gone, but VMs apparently can't find their root disk. mounting the RBD directly shows the right uuid in blkid. | 12:22 |
| RageLtMan | ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/7683e12a-b09c-46fb-8083-a01afa77e356 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! | 12:22 |
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| eagles0513875 | hey all | 12:49 |
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| tty00 | hi! it's me again :) i follow http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/keystone-install.html and got the error message 'No handlers could be found for logger "oslo_config.cfg"' when i run su -s /bin/sh -c "keystone-manage db_sync" keystone | 12:56 |
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| tty00 | the returncode is 0, can i trust the command is working as expected? what can i do to remove the informational message? | 12:57 |
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| GLOSS | http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 !!! EARN MONEY REALLY QUICK - FREE REGISTARTION - NO SCAM - REAL MONEY - ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS REGISTER FOR FREE AND SHARE YOUR LINK !! READ UP ON IT AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF !! | 13:15 |
| GLOSS | HAVE A BLESS DAY !! | 13:15 |
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| tty00 | is it possible to use the old v2 api version in liberty keystone? | 13:24 |
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| egonzalez | tty00: yes, for example rdo packstack uses v2 by default | 13:26 |
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| GLOSS | http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 http://theyouthcash.com/?ref=22741 !!! EARN MONEY REALLY QUICK - FREE REGISTARTION - NO SCAM - REAL MONEY - ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS REGISTER FOR FREE AND SHARE YOUR LINK !! READ UP ON IT AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF !! | 13:28 |
| GLOSS | HAVE A BLESS DAY !! | 13:28 |
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| tty00 | egonzalez: cool | 13:28 |
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| tty00 | let's say i have 5-6 nodes in my openstack PoC, is it wise to setup (image|dashboard|block storage|object storage|orchestration|telemetry) service on the controller node and use a dedicated node for networking and the rest for computing? | 13:33 |
| tty00 | or should i split all services except for computing on node1 and 2? | 13:33 |
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| jguy_ | Running into a problem in Liberty on Ubuntu 14.04 | 13:37 |
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| jguy_ | When I try to launch an instance, it errors, and the only thing in the nova-api log is “Lazy-loading `fault' on Instance” and “Policy check for os_compute_api:os-hide-server-addresses failed with credentials" | 13:39 |
| ramonskie | tty00: that depends on what you want to achive with your poc | 13:39 |
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| jguy_ | I just followed the Liberty guide | 13:39 |
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| jguy_ | Really just want to see it working. | 13:40 |
| jguy_ | I have used Kilo and Icehouse. | 13:40 |
| jguy_ | this is my first time trying to build a Liberty setup | 13:40 |
| jguy_ | I assume it is a misconfig or communication issue, but the errors are not really very telling. | 13:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: figure it out? | 13:43 |
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| manu95 | 2015-12-18 14:29:53.265 3096 INFO nova.api.openstack [req-8ddd6c9a-57db-4467-b000-149a01da8d8e 242277d630774be9876eaf4d9ea67d3b 6d7a5a3a46ed4937a067f9d902fb7459 - - -] http://contro | 14:05 |
| manu95 | ller:8774/v2/6d7a5a3a46ed4937a067f9d902fb7459/servers returned with HTTP 500 | 14:05 |
| visbits | looking at the liberty guides they went from OVS to Linux Bridge.. any reason for that or just whoever updated the guides preference? | 14:05 |
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| manu95 | when I launch an instance , dashboard return an HTTP 500 error whilst all services are up and running between my nodes if anyone could advise | 14:06 |
| visbits | review your logs | 14:06 |
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| manu95 | I do | 14:09 |
| visbits | well your logs will tell you more than anything | 14:10 |
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| visbits | id start with your apache httpd error log if thats where your seeing the 500 | 14:10 |
| manu95 | Recoverable error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) | 14:10 |
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| visbits | thats not a useful error | 14:12 |
| visbits | look at /var/log/httpd/error_log | 14:12 |
| visbits | on your dashboard server | 14:12 |
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| manu95 | this is the erro found on /var/log/httpd/error.log [Fri Dec 18 13:52:14.555800 2015] [:error] [pid 3125] Recoverable error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-4da853fe-3ac5-4cb2-be4a-23d6dff8b2bb) | 14:14 |
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| visbits | okay go to your nova server and look at /var/log/nova-server.log | 14:20 |
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| tschrock5252 | Hello everyone. I have an issue getting Ceilometer working in Openstack Kilo, running on Ubuntu 14.04. The error I am getting seems to be in reference to the auth_URL that I am providing. I think that Kilo has a bug with auth_url 2.0. Can anyone help me out? | 15:08 |
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| tschrock5252 | I asked in Openstack Telemetry, but nobody their replied to me | 15:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: whats in your config file? | 15:09 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am | 15:11 |
| tschrock5252 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482315/ | 15:11 |
| tschrock5252 | Also, I believe we looked at this another time, and we found that the Kilo install guide has some errors in Ceilometer setup | 15:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats an odd combination of things | 15:12 |
| tschrock5252 | Yeah, I have worked on this a few times | 15:12 |
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| tschrock5252 | So the config could be all kinds of whacked out | 15:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're using auth_plugin, you should have auth_url and auth_uri | 15:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | identity_uri is not a thing | 15:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it was... in prior lives | 15:13 |
| tschrock5252 | Ok. So.... auth_uri = http://oscont-01:5000 | 15:13 |
| tschrock5252 | That seems wrong | 15:14 |
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| tschrock5252 | # /2.0 at the end? | 15:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | should not have a version | 15:14 |
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| tschrock5252 | Whitepaper? I'd love to set these variables correctly, and then restart the services to see if I have better luck | 15:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmmm yeah, kilo docs are weird on that | 15:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | just use the liberty docs | 15:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | should work fine | 15:15 |
| tschrock5252 | Will do | 15:15 |
| tschrock5252 | I'll update shortly | 15:15 |
| tschrock5252 | Thanks Sam-I-Am | 15:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like some bits did not make it into the kilo docs | 15:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might be worth opening a bug when you figure out how to make it go | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | stuff the config bits in the bug | 15:16 |
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| manu95 | without any change on my nodes , my network node Neutron service failed , why ? | 15:18 |
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| manu95 | neutron OperationalError: (OperationalError) no such table: ml2_vlan_allocations | 15:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you use the neutron-db-manage command prior to starting neutron-server? | 15:19 |
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| manu95 | no Sam I used db-manage at the initialization only | 15:20 |
| manu95 | I changed nothing in config file | 15:20 |
| manu95 | and the error appear | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... config all neutron things -> neutron-db-manage (with the correct options -> start neutron-server -> start neutron agents | 15:21 |
| manu95 | yes | 15:21 |
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| manu95 | perhaps the issue raised after a reboot , is it possible Sam ? | 15:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | usually not. sure you didnt change anything in the configs or update any packages? | 15:23 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, getting the message now "The Service Catalog is empty" when running ceilometer meter-list. I have configured the glance-registry and glance-api appropriately though. | 15:26 |
| tschrock5252 | So, I should see something listed | 15:26 |
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| manu95 | yes ml2_conf.ini was untouched on my controller node | 15:26 |
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| manu95 | do nova.conf could affect the DB as well Sam, it think not ? | 15:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 15:27 |
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| manu95 | sam I have follow the guide and I meet an http 500 issue lientException: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-42849d51-212c-42dd-8079-821ee967bf6a) | 15:29 |
| manu95 | I manage to debug this now: ova --debug boot --flavor m1.tiny --image cirros-0.3.4-x86_64 --nic net-id=f7d16d62-199a-48b3-bab3-377eecf311ca --security-group default --key-name demo-key demo-instance3 | 15:30 |
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| manu95 | openstack is quite complex :) | 15:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: is there no entries in the catalog for ceilometer? | 15:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should debug the ceilometer command to see what its looking for there | 15:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | manu95: yeah, but it does work if you follow the install guide for a basic deployment | 15:31 |
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| manu95 | I did with a three nodes | 15:31 |
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| manu95 | Sam, how can I verify if my tunnel is up and ready between network and compute nodes ? | 15:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | using ovs? | 15:33 |
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| manu95 | Sam on my controller all neutron agent are up (neutron agent-list cmd) but neutron service failed, is it normal ? | 15:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the neutron service has to be running for agent-list to work | 15:36 |
| manu95 | neutron service fails on the network node while controller see them up ? | 15:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron-server should not be running anywhere but the controller node | 15:37 |
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| manu95 | visbits: ? | 15:40 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, it does not appear that there are any entries in the catalogue. I followed the controller setup here: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ceilometer-install.html | 15:41 |
| manu95 | Sam I think if I succed to fix the http 500 issue it should be fine | 15:42 |
| tschrock5252 | And the image setup here http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ceilometer-glance.html | 15:42 |
| tschrock5252 | Could it be that kilo has a different admin-openrc to source? | 15:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | eh, the openrc is a little different i think | 15:44 |
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| manu95 | it is the first time I meet http 500 issue , where I have to looking for ? | 15:45 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am copied from http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/keystone-openrc.html#creating-the-scripts into a new file. Same error. hmm | 15:45 |
| tschrock5252 | manu95, check your httpd logs | 15:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure there's not a typo in your endpoint entries? | 15:46 |
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| tschrock5252 | In the config?? | 15:46 |
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| manu95 | [Fri Dec 18 13:51:59.804257 2015] [:error] [pid 6526] Recoverable error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: r | 15:46 |
| manu95 | eq-b5e2cfa3-5bc5-4df4-874a-140be12555a4) | 15:46 |
| manu95 | I did: only this : | 15:46 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am http://paste.openstack.org/show/482321/ | 15:48 |
| manu95 | does someone meet HTTP issue with Kilo version ? | 15:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: those arent endpoint entries | 15:54 |
| tschrock5252 | Im sorry | 15:54 |
| tschrock5252 | endpoint list otw | 15:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ceilometer --debug meter-list | 15:56 |
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| tschrock5252 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482323/ | 15:57 |
| manu95 | I fixe the http Error ;) | 15:58 |
| tschrock5252 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482325/ | 15:58 |
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| manu95 | I have the final error to fix :if_type=binding_failed | 15:58 |
| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, the first is the endpoint details, the second is the debug output | 15:58 |
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| manu95 | dear fellowship, I have spent many hours on this, can you help me to fix this tricky error: vif_type=binding_failed | 15:59 |
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| manu95 | I know that vif_type is related with network but where is the issue ? | 16:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: whats in your openrc file? | 16:02 |
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| tschrock5252 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/482329/ | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what happens if you unset os_identity_api_version | 16:05 |
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| tschrock5252 | Lets find out! | 16:05 |
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| tschrock5252 | This happens http://paste.openstack.org/show/482330/ | 16:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what if you put /v2.0 instead of /v3 at the end of os_auth_url? | 16:10 |
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| Reepicheep | I'm working on a heat orchestration template. Is there a proper way to give ids names within a resource group? | 16:11 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am Unable to determine the Keystone version to authenticate with using the given auth_url. | 16:13 |
| Reepicheep | for instance I have an OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup with an unknown desired_capacity that needs to add a networks: port from a OS::Neutron::Port resource | 16:13 |
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| Reepicheep | how do i make it use a unique network port each time that it iterates through a OS::Nova::Server | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: hmm, i guess set os_identity_api_version to 2? | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | something isnt right here | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure this is kilo? | 16:15 |
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| tschrock5252 | Positive it's kilo | 16:16 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, same error about the auth_url when it's version 2 | 16:17 |
| RageLtMan | Hi Sam | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: check version of code? | 16:18 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am how? | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | dpkg or rpm, depending on your distro | 16:18 |
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| RageLtMan | My cluster is killing me. Ceph made several RBD volumes fail to boot properly - VM starts, log shows it cant find the boot volume during init at /dev/disk/by-label | 16:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: what happened with the mtu stuff? | 16:19 |
| RageLtMan | Still a problem, but right now i'm down production-wise | 16:19 |
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| RageLtMan | i changed all MTUs i could find | 16:19 |
| RageLtMan | its inside the actual compute node in nova far as i can tell | 16:19 |
| tschrock5252 | 1:2015.1.1-0ubuntu1~cloud2 all OpenStack Compute - common files | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you figure out where packets were stopping? | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: yeah that would be kilo | 16:19 |
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| tschrock5252 | :( This is rough. The keystone auth URL's seem to have got fixed in later releases so everything uses v3 | 16:20 |
| Reepicheep | I have seen some references to "%index%" but I have not been able to find any solid documentation on it | 16:20 |
| tschrock5252 | But in Kilo, I don't think v3 is supported for ceilometer | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: if you follow the instructions in kilo that use deprecated keystone_authtoken options and also follow the openrc file from kilo, does it work? | 16:21 |
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| RageLtMan | Sam-I-Am: my volumes mount fine in local systems via rbd and fsck fine, i can chroot, etc, UUID is right... no idea wtf is going on | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is vm's console, or nova log? | 16:22 |
| RageLtMan | vms console | 16:22 |
| RageLtMan | err, the output to serial console | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | my guess is the device id somehow changed | 16:22 |
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| RageLtMan | the visual console just hangs at pre-init scripts | 16:22 |
| RageLtMan | blkid on the imported RBD volume shows the right UUIDs | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | does fstab inside it reference the wrong device? | 16:22 |
| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, default configs and documentation do not work at all | 16:23 |
| RageLtMan | its a normal ubuntu cloud image | 16:23 |
| RageLtMan | so the fastab refs by label | 16:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: have you tried booting a new image? | 16:23 |
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| RageLtMan | yeah, did an rbd conversion in-place | 16:23 |
| RageLtMan | no dice | 16:23 |
| RageLtMan | worse yet | 16:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so this broke after implementing ceph? | 16:23 |
| RageLtMan | no | 16:24 |
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| RageLtMan | it broke after i had to fsck ceph, and everything kept running, then when dealing with MTU issue i rebooted cluster and now two production VMs are f'd | 16:24 |
| RageLtMan | the breakage was likely ~3 days ago, but only manifested when i tried to boot VMs again | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | is nova successfully grabbing that disk device? | 16:25 |
| RageLtMan | i made new Ceph volumes | 16:25 |
| RageLtMan | how do i tell? | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've never used ceph | 16:25 |
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| RageLtMan | with iSCSI the disk shows up in host | 16:25 |
| manu95 | Sam good news I am able ti create instance on admin tenant , still HTTP 500 on demo tenant | 16:25 |
| RageLtMan | with libvirt-ceph it doesnt seem to | 16:25 |
| RageLtMan | it MUST be loading the disk though as it starts boot from it | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | manu95: good | 16:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: you can check the nova-compute log, or also check the libvirt process to see if it includes the right volume | 16:25 |
| RageLtMan | Here's a question you might find more up your alley: how do i get block size differences adressed in gance->cinder conversion? | 16:26 |
| RageLtMan | checking now | 16:26 |
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| RageLtMan | our cinder volumes are 4k/8k layout, and when i convert the image from ceph into cinder it creates partitions WAY outside the disk. basically its 8X off on the block sizing during conversion | 16:26 |
| RageLtMan | id love to put everything back in cinder now that its running ~600MB/s, but apparently i cant | 16:27 |
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| RageLtMan | (last 24 hours of dealing with basic tuning in openstack make me think you're shooting for sainthood helping out all of us sinners here) | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | i do see a lot here | 16:28 |
| RageLtMan | So basically i am proper f'd right now | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | although you havent reached 'i'm getting fired if this isnt fixed' state. i've seen that. on weekends. | 16:28 |
| RageLtMan | production systems are down, though i can still see the data, and my very fast cinder setup can't be used | 16:28 |
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| RageLtMan | i'm the boss, fired is not an option, worked into the ground is | 16:28 |
| RageLtMan | tomorrow's my 3y wedding anniversary, so there's also potential death if i dont free up by midnight. | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 16:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | angry wife vs. broken openstack | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | hummm | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know a guy that can disappear you | 16:30 |
| RageLtMan | (married a shrink, she's quite understanding, but death may seem a win compared to the mindf... she can induce) | 16:30 |
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| RageLtMan | I'm a prior service USMC grunt, even STA straining and a gilly suit wont help me | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, this glance->cinder conversion | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | block size thing | 16:31 |
| RageLtMan | Since i'm not keen to find out how my proctologist can remove a rack of servers, i need to solve 3 things: what happened to the RBD volumes and how do i fix it, how do i get migration between ceph and cinder working at the block offset, and how do i fix the MTU issue | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is when you boot from volume? | 16:31 |
| RageLtMan | Yes | 16:31 |
| RageLtMan | So i have boot volumes only for now | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova sees it as 512 byte blocks? | 16:32 |
| RageLtMan | No | 16:32 |
| RageLtMan | I have nova configured to set up all iSCSI links as virtio-scsi LUNs (passthru) | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, libvirt more accurately | 16:32 |
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| goodygum | RageLtMan: wow, mindfuck by shrink could be epic | 16:33 |
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| RageLtMan | Yeah, darwin award tiem | 16:33 |
| RageLtMan | time* | 16:33 |
| RageLtMan | Where does nova keep detailed VM logs? | 16:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: i'd look at /var/run/libvirt | 16:34 |
| RageLtMan | mostly empty | 16:34 |
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| RageLtMan | http://pastebin.com/gatxDugb | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | on the compute node? | 16:35 |
| RageLtMan | yeah | 16:35 |
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| RageLtMan | So the first VM which needs saving is our Chef 12 instance | 16:35 |
| RageLtMan | This one is running on osc01 (compute node 01) | 16:35 |
| Reepicheep | So maybe I should ask this question .. are you supposed to use an OS::Heat::ResourceGroup in conjunction with an OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup? or are they kinda mutually exclusive? | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | those instance xmls... one place to look | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | and /var/log/libvirt | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | should be a bunch of log files in there | 16:36 |
| RageLtMan | Currently, it says http://pastebin.com/R53ndr27 | 16:36 |
| RageLtMan | ah | 16:36 |
| RageLtMan | nice | 16:36 |
| RageLtMan | internal error: missing storage backend for network files using rbd protocol | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like a problem | 16:37 |
| RageLtMan | umm, how does it boot at all? | 16:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably doesn't get past the 'bios' state? | 16:37 |
| RageLtMan | if you look at the last paste, its dmesg from the VM itself. if there's no disk, how does it load the initrd? | 16:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | it might be on the local disk | 16:39 |
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| RageLtMan | one volume, ubuntu cloud image | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont open the microwave before the ding | 16:39 |
| RageLtMan | so here's libvirtdlog from a fresh boot of the VM: http://pastebin.com/RuhdFxqQ | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: anything in the nova-compute log? | 16:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | does ceph even work with cinder right now? | 16:42 |
| RageLtMan | it works | 16:42 |
| RageLtMan | other VMs run fine | 16:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but you said you cant boot new ones | 16:42 |
| RageLtMan | only two that got hit, we ones i "forced" to snap and send to image while they were running | 16:42 |
| RageLtMan | i can boot new ones, i cant boot the existing prod ones. i think, lemme check | 16:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | new ones using volumes from ceph, that is | 16:42 |
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| Reepicheep | oh.. I think I found it .. sorry I don't know how I missed this: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/asg_of_servers.yaml | 16:43 |
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| Reepicheep | I need to call the networks directly instead of working through an OS::Neutron::Port resource | 16:44 |
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| RageLtMan | new VM running in ceph volume started just fine. validating from nova node too, but the VM is now running | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: same compute node? | 16:45 |
| manu95 | Sam I am not able to create instance on demo tenant ? | 16:46 |
| RageLtMan | different node, this time 03 | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | manu95: is the demo network owned by demo or admin? | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: curious about this particular node | 16:46 |
| RageLtMan | all nodes are identical | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | that libvirt error would almost indicate some issue with the underlying ceph driver bits | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming you installed some ceph things on each node | 16:47 |
| RageLtMan | deployed with Fuel, modified only in simultaneous sessions with all other VMs | 16:47 |
| manu95 | by demo | 16:47 |
| Reepicheep | ok.. I remember why I didn't do it that way.. I'm not sure how to attache a SecurityGroup to it without the OS::Nuetron::Port | 16:47 |
| RageLtMan | err with all other nodes | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: not a heat guy, sorry | 16:47 |
| RageLtMan | Fuel, but no worries, ceph works | 16:47 |
| RageLtMan | whats broken are two images in ceph i think | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr, Reepicheep not a heat guy | 16:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: have you tried relaunching the snap of this vm? | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | or is that how you got here | 16:48 |
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| RageLtMan | thats how i got here | 16:48 |
| RageLtMan | the snaps hang identically | 16:49 |
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| RageLtMan | this may actually be DUE to the snap, but i fear deleting it | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, the vm wants 7683e12a-b09c-46fb-8083-a01afa77e356 | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | what volume id is cinder mounting for it? | 16:49 |
| RageLtMan | a3e6aff1-23be-44ab-b275-43eff1a5f185 | 16:49 |
| RageLtMan | the UUID of the partition is what its looking for on boot in the VM, cinder's UUID for the RBD vol is a3e6aff1-23be-44ab-b275-43eff1a5f185 | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, so thats clearly the problem | 16:50 |
| RageLtMan | ? | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | vm is probably looking for what the volume ID used to be | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | not what it is now after your rebuild | 16:51 |
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| RageLtMan | tried that | 16:51 |
| RageLtMan | i did an rbd rename already | 16:51 |
| RageLtMan | no dice | 16:51 |
| RageLtMan | btw, when i map the RBD volume, the disk UUID in the partition is correct: /dev/rbd0p1: LABEL="cloudimg-rootfs" UUID="7683e12a-b09c-46fb-8083-a01afa77e356" TYPE="ext4" | 16:51 |
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| manu95 | sam , when I meet http 500 error , tenant and privilege issue is met but there is no log in the keystone.log ? | 16:52 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am a guy in Telemetry says I am on version 1.0.13 of the python-ceilometerclient. I need a minimum of version 1.1.1 | 16:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: thats inside the volume somewhere? | 16:53 |
| tschrock5252 | Remember, no pip for me | 16:53 |
| tschrock5252 | python-ceilometerclient is already the newest version. | 16:53 |
| tschrock5252 | after an apt-get install on it | 16:53 |
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| RageLtMan | in that paste, rbd0p1 is the actual VM volume exposed in a compute node via RBD | 16:54 |
| tschrock5252 | Does Ubuntu support it? If so, what do I need to do in order to install it | 16:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: problem is i think the VM itself is looking for the wrong UUID (in grub?) | 16:54 |
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| RageLtMan | grub is looking for 7683e12a-b09c-46fb-8083-a01afa77e356 | 16:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: 1.0.8 is the version supported by cloud-archive for kilo | 16:56 |
| RageLtMan | lemme check | 16:56 |
| Diplomat | grub, pls | 16:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: but fstab is looking for the old id? something here did not get word about the new ID of the disk. | 16:56 |
| RageLtMan | linux/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-73-generic root=UUID=7683e12a-b09c-46fb-8083-a01afa77e356 ro console=tty1 console=ttyS0 | 16:56 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, so anything newer than that should be considered unsupported/a huge install risk | 16:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | RageLtMan: so thats how you're getting down the kernel a bit | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you hit fstab for rootfs, and uuid is wrong? | 16:57 |
| RageLtMan | i think initramfs isnt building the /dev/disk/by-* tree properly | 16:57 |
| RageLtMan | no | 16:57 |
| RageLtMan | well | 16:57 |
| RageLtMan | maybe | 16:57 |
| RageLtMan | opaque in that i cant touch it | 16:57 |
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| manu95 | Sam I found the issue , I am not able to set the nic paramters --nic net-id=9f22f457-4cc6-4da7-9f1b-4d6713fbf287, instance fails due to tgus | 16:58 |
| RageLtMan | but i then get the error in dmesg of the volume being missing and at the same time get the libvirt error underneath about RBD failing | 16:58 |
| manu95 | his | 16:58 |
| manu95 | this | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: ceilometer should work in kilo | 16:58 |
| Diplomat | Guys, I have a quick random thought, has anyone tried to install Windows 7 from ISO to OS ? | 16:58 |
| RageLtMan | yes | 16:58 |
| RageLtMan | i have everythig from 7-10 running here | 16:58 |
| Diplomat | I'm thinking about making myself a "virtual desktop" | 16:58 |
| Diplomat | oooo | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | iso installs can be iffy | 16:58 |
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| RageLtMan | 10 is a PITA requires nova run in core2duo CPU mode | 16:58 |
| Diplomat | yea Sam, that's what Im thinking | 16:58 |
| Diplomat | well I just want win7 | 16:59 |
| RageLtMan | we ended up building in separate KVM and importing | 16:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | a lot of things are like "hey where the cdrom? hey wheres the cdrom? hello?" | 16:59 |
| manu95 | Sam- I have an neutron error : NeutronClientException: Authentication required | 16:59 |
| Diplomat | I gotta figure out how to do it.. would be fun | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | manu95: sounds like a problem with [keystone_authtoken] somewhere? | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | or perhaps the nova-neutron auth bits | 17:00 |
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| RageLtMan | bawls. brb | 17:00 |
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| Diplomat | Looks like the easiest way would be to install it in ubuntu and then upload it to um.. glance and then use it with volume | 17:01 |
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| Diplomat | man, uploading 20gb file behind 40mbps upload doesnt sound fun :( | 17:02 |
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| manu95 | Sam , if a keystone password is not correctly set, I should have sth in the keystore.log file ? | 17:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | manu95: not necessarily | 17:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | keystone wont log auth errors by default | 17:04 |
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| manu95 | I have this in keystone file :2015-12-18 16:13:28.902 6536 WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Could not find token: aaedc06f7b7b4cb2baa989bacea315cd | 17:05 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, it SHOULD, but I do not think it does. | 17:06 |
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| tschrock5252 | Does anyone here have a working config of Kilo with Ceilometer? | 17:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: it works here - https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/tree/kilo/playbooks/roles/os_ceilometer | 17:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so if you dont mind parsing some ansible, you can probably figure out what its doing | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | or just deploy it :) | 17:08 |
| tschrock5252 | No ansible deployment process in place for me here | 17:08 |
| tschrock5252 | Have to pick apart what it's doing I guess | 17:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the ceilometer.conf file is pretty simple | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | its using the old auth methods | 17:09 |
| tschrock5252 | ^^ Kinda my thoughts too | 17:09 |
| tschrock5252 | Simple | 17:09 |
| tschrock5252 | Sadly, I do not know ansible at all | 17:11 |
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| tschrock5252 | Ahh, there is my config reference | 17:12 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, still doesn't work. Even following their configuration | 17:21 |
| tschrock5252 | About to add-apt-repository cloud-archive:liberty | 17:21 |
| tschrock5252 | apt-get install python-ceilometerclient | 17:21 |
| tschrock5252 | But that greatly concerns me | 17:22 |
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| tschrock5252 | I do not like the idea of adding liberty packages to my kilo install. Can I get some thoughts on that? Recommendations? | 17:22 |
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| manu95 | [root@controller neutron]# fgrep -i "Authorization failed for token" /var/log/neutron/server.log | 17:23 |
| manu95 | 2015-12-18 16:07:40.914 5530 WARNING keystonemiddleware.auth_token [req-0bd613e9-2b96-4194-8616-8d37813516ca ] Authorization failed for token | 17:23 |
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| manu95 | Sam - I have an issue with authentication: | 17:24 |
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| manu95 | perhaps a behavior with url called ? | 17:24 |
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| manu95 | I found this on web : export OS_AUTH_URL=http://kilocontroller:35357/v3 ( <- must add v3 ) ? | 17:25 |
| manu95 | on kilo ? | 17:25 |
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| tschrock5252 | Thanks manu95. Been down that road man | 17:25 |
| tschrock5252 | Doesn't fix it | 17:25 |
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| tschrock5252 | I get an error that the service catalog is empty after that | 17:26 |
| tschrock5252 | And i have admins in OS-telemetry channel saying that they think v1.0.13 of the python-ceilometerclient is broken | 17:27 |
| tschrock5252 | in Kilo | 17:27 |
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| urban | I'm trying to figureout how to shrink an kvm instance image. virt-resize complains that "This partition contains a ext4 filesystem | 17:42 |
| urban | which will be damaged by shrinking" | 17:42 |
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| urban | is there any way to shrink that disk image? | 17:42 |
| urban | I'm just migrating to cheaper instance | 17:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: you can fire up a different vm, pip install python-ceilometerclient and see if it will talk to your openstack deployment | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | tschrock5252: or you can pip install it into a venv | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you've used venvs... thats probably easier | 17:43 |
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| tschrock5252 | Sam-I-Am, thank you | 18:02 |
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| john5223 | hmm... so i dont know if you remember Sam-I-Am but yesterday i was talking to you about that libvirt error trying to update AppArmor profile when creating snapshot | 18:44 |
| john5223 | so basically...cant create snapshots on liberty install | 18:44 |
| john5223 | i had it on ubuntu 15.10... and so i went to ubuntu 14.04 to see what happens there and i get same error | 18:44 |
| john5223 | so its not something with 15.10 after all... still trying to debug further | 18:45 |
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| john5223 | if i disable apparmor though i can create snapshot | 18:45 |
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| tschrock5252 | sad panda | 19:01 |
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| tty00 | hi, i'm following http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/neutron-controller-install.html | 19:37 |
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| tty00 | what do you mean with the note under "Configure networking options"? | 19:38 |
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| tty00 | sentence 1 is: Option 2 augments option 1 with the layer-3 (routing) service and enables self-service (private) networks | 19:39 |
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| tty00 | sentense 2 is: If you want to use public (provider) and private (self-service) networks, choose option 2. | 19:39 |
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| tty00 | if option 1 is required for option 2, the note should maybe be something like "If you want to use public (provider) and private (self-service) networks, perform option 1 and then option 2" | 19:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tty00: so... | 19:45 |
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| DPrince871 | hi, I'm having a really had time understanding domains in keystone... are there any good resources out there to help? Currently I've created a domain, added a server to it but everytime I try run a cmd with that user using openstackclient it fails with ":~$ openstack service list | 19:45 |
| DPrince871 | ERROR: openstack No valid authentication is available" | 19:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | option 1 supports attaching a VM to a physical network directly... no routing/nat/whatever | 19:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | option 1 enables you to create private virtual networks, attach vms to them, and use virtual routers/floating IPs | 19:46 |
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| tty00 | do i need to do option 1 before option 2? | 21:11 |
| tty00 | i read augments as "extends" | 21:11 |
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| brad[] | hi all, in a Juno - kilo update, how do I upgrade the SQL schema for heat? | 21:44 |
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| brad[] | got it | 21:49 |
| brad[] | heat-manage db_sync | 21:49 |
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| gwildoe | hi all | 22:18 |
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| Diplomat | hello gwildoe, how's it going ? | 22:23 |
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| john5223 | so tracking down my libvirt apparmor error when suspending vm i get this: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/john5223/7667478327f59354837d/raw/10d5b52124f080d79a64da3bb76b65bc37d88d16/gistfile1.txt | 22:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tty00: yeah, you always do option 1 | 22:58 |
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| tty00 | Sam-I-Am: went trough option 1, and it isn't needed if you choose option 2 | 23:26 |
| tty00 | but, the note should maybe be a bit more clear (clearify option 1 or option 2, even if option 1 isn't conflicting with option 2) | 23:28 |
| tty00 | but thats just a humble opinion | 23:28 |
| * jidar groans | 23:28 | |
| jidar | horizon keeps throwning an exception when trying to pull the tenant/project list | 23:29 |
| jidar | this stupid thing | 23:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tty00: err yeah thats what i meant | 23:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | option 1 only supports provider nets, option 2 supports both | 23:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i originally tried to write it so one would really build on the other, but neutron's config wouldnt have that | 23:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | john5223: could be a bug in the apparmor profiles | 23:35 |
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| brad[] | In trying to run a heat stack I'm getting errors regarding neutron policy - http://pastebin.com/jxCdECnP | 23:45 |
| brad[] | The user I'm logged in with has heat_stack_owner role applied | 23:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | non-admins cannot create --shared networks | 23:46 |
| brad[] | I don't think I want to grant some of those to regular_user role either | 23:46 |
| brad[] | ah | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | or create provider netwrks | 23:46 |
| brad[] | It's strange that corekube (the stack I'm using) assumes a person will be an admin | 23:47 |
| brad[] | (devs these days...) | 23:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | eh? | 23:47 |
| brad[] | odd thing though - the stack itself doesn't have mention of wanting to create a shared network or a provider network | 23:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | must be somewhere in there | 23:52 |
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| brad[] | hmm. | 23:57 |
| brad[] | is OS::Neutron::ProviderNet used for the creation of provider networks? Not just to retrieve info about them? | 23:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably | 23:59 |
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