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thetravopenstack juno swift install on ubuntu: LookupError: Entry point 'main' not found in egg 'swift'03:20
thetravanyone got any clue how I can debug / fix that?03:20
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notmynamethetrav: sounds like you didn't actually get it installed (eg if from source, doing `python ./setup.py install`). or maybe your PATH or PYTHONPATH isn't set properly03:21
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thetravnotmyname, I'm following the apt install guide, so no, not from source03:26
thetravhttp://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/installing-and-configuring-the-proxy-node.html <- specifically03:27
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MrCuriousor you have 2 versions of python installed...04:41
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blaiseboolhello, is monotic broken with nova on mac 10.11 ?  I got this "RuntimeError: no suitable implementation for this system" while running nova list09:39
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tore_am I right in understanding that best practise when setting up a neutron-based overlay network, each tenant should have their own private internet-connected router as opposed to having a single common one?11:47
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yuner027hello,guys,i want to know"how to make my api-site"11:52
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telneshttps://github.com/openstack/api-site11:54
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fxpestercan anyone help with very annoying problem ? - https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/81674/instance-is-forever-in-scheduling-state/13:27
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fxpesterdoing `nova boot`, vm forever in `scheduling` state, all logs are clean13:28
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Sam-I-Amfxpester: is nova-scheduler and nova-conductor running?13:28
fxpesteryes13:29
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fxpesterin logs I see only looping calls13:30
fxpester2015-09-14 09:28:55.411 4042 DEBUG nova.openstack.common.loopingcall - this conductor13:30
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telneshello, when we restart all serveur (compute, controller, glance, neutron, horizon ...) are there a best order ?13:31
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Sam-I-Amfxpester: check the api logs13:32
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fxpesterSam-I-Am: looks ok - http://paste.openstack.org/show/461339/13:35
fxpesterat least I can see request to create VM13:36
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Sam-I-Amyou should see something in the schedule and conductor logs13:38
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Sam-I-Amalso does 'nova service-list' see all services?13:38
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fxpesternova serice-list - http://paste.openstack.org/show/461341/13:41
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fxpesterI know I should see something in logs, but I don`t...13:43
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Sam-I-Amanything in the compute node logs?13:43
fxpesterso when I doing `nova boot` what happening ? I see request in API log, so nova calls api, what next ? conductor ? scheduler ?13:43
Sam-I-Amyeah something like that13:43
Sam-I-Ami dont think you need debug logs on, it just clutters stuff13:44
Sam-I-Amjust verbose13:44
Sam-I-Amthen restart nova sched and cond while looking at the logs13:44
wNfxpester: there is a wiki doc on it13:44
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fxpesterwN: I fighting this for several days now, tried very many things :D will try to restart all now13:45
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wNnova api goes to nova scheduler13:46
wNhttps://youtu.be/xxxEiCqKgDY?t=61213:46
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fxpesterrestart does nothing, in logs only "starting, connected to AMPQ"13:49
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jagter_no error message appears after a period of time?13:50
fxpesterno13:52
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summitTickethi, I have an early bird ticket to Openstack summit in Tokyo and not going to use it - (before I ask to cancel it) anyone interested?13:52
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evilrobso neutron lb-aas... looks like a single protocol port and traffic is listened for and passed to only that port.  correct?  No multiple listens?15:23
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mza-thx2015-09-14 16:50:45.177 33926 CRITICAL nova [-] ImportError: No module named middleware.request_id16:53
mza-anyone seen that before?16:53
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RedcavalierHi, I've noticed an interesting behaviour and I'm wondering if anybody else had to deal with that.19:51
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RedcavalierBasically, I have a 320 GB vm running in openstack. I take a snapshot of that VM and then the compute starts uploading to glance.19:52
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RedcavalierThe thing is, the upload operation is taking most of the server's ram as cache and it's taking upward of 100 GB in cache, showing that the uploaded image may be stored in cache.19:53
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RedcavalierI was wondering if anybody else as had to limit the amount of cache used by this process and how they did it, as it seems fairly difficult to directly limit the amount of cached memory used in the linux kernel.19:54
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mbeierlSo that is an interesting tradeoff for KVM: you want to use the kernel cache to help improve the overall disk performance of the VMs, but for the image upload, the kernel doesn't know the difference between that and VM disk access.20:05
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IcePicthe image upload should almost be uncached, it will be limited by net mostly, I guess.20:06
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IcePicno need to wash out LRU caches with bunch of 4G iso images and whatnot20:06
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mbeierlThe thing is, the memory that is being used for cache is "unused" memory anyway, but if you really want to start tuning that because you see a measurable problem, some kernel parameters are vm.vfs_cache_pressure and vm.swappiness, iirc20:08
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RedcavalierAh I see, so technically, it should not impact my system. The main issue though, is that it starts swapping20:09
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mbeierlya, that is the tuning point that server room consultants could paid big bucks to solve.20:09
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RedcavalierOnce the swap gets full, it's likely I'm going straight into OOM teritority20:10
pl33g0rhi everyone20:10
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pl33g0rtrying to setup neutron with kilo on centos720:10
mbeierlThis is one of the areas that KVM will need extra development to help bring it up to par with some of the other paid solutions20:10
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RedcavalierI see20:11
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mbeierlbut if you are seeing your VMs going into swap, then you can improve that with swappiness20:11
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Redcavalieryea, I would have liked not needing to toy with kernel parameters though20:12
pl33g0rwhen im trying to populate database I am getting "ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '10.17.6.2'" where 10.17.6.2 is IP of my controller when i ran the same command in debug mode I got "su: user neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade head does not exist"20:12
mbeierlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness20:12
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pl33g0rim running neutron node and controller on the same physical server20:13
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RedcavalierI see, so until kvm can improve the way it manages memory, modifying vm.swappiness is my best course of action?20:13
georgem1Redcavalier: the cache on your Glance node is used? or the compute node?20:13
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Redcavaliergeorgem1, compute20:14
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mbeierlRedcavalier: unfortunately performance and scale often do require that level of tuning.  I think that for higher performant KVM usage, you probably do want to decrease the swappiness so that the VMs are less likely to swap.  However, be aware of overcomitting your memory at that point20:14
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georgem1is your VM using a qcow2 image?20:14
mbeierlpl33g0r: I have done that before in the past and it does work.  What is your question, please?20:15
mbeierloops20:15
mbeierlI see it20:15
Redcavaliergeorgem1, no it's raw, because I'm using ceph. Now before we start talking about the ceph snapshot patch, it's not really an option as we speak.20:16
pl33g0rmbeierl: this is my 1st setup and I am not quite undersrand where to look for clues... When I look for logs in /var/log/neutron/ there is absolutely nothing20:16
mbeierlpl33g0r: grep for 10.17.6.2 in all neutron config files.  Perhaps it went into the wrong field or format for something.  Pastebin the output20:16
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mbeierlIf it is in the db setup, there will be no logs in /var/log yet as the processes cannot even start20:17
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georgem1Redcavalier:ah, ok, so you use Ceph for the root disk and the snapshot has to be downloaded from Ceph to the compute node's local disk, then uploaded over http to the Glance server backed by Ceph as well?20:18
Redcavaliergeorgem1, exactly, that'S how it is right now20:18
j^2Sam-I-Am: any chance i can ask you a Linux Bridge Setup question?20:19
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j^2https://gist.github.com/bd0754e7b463edfeb42120:19
j^2i’m assuming that’s a typo?20:19
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pl33g0rmbeierl: http://paste.openstack.org/show/461797/20:20
Sam-I-Amj^2: moo20:20
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j^2Sam-I-Am: brb, moving gates for a flight20:20
pl33g0rmbeierl: I created db manually and i can c it when i ran show databases20:21
Sam-I-Amj^2: this sounds fun20:21
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Sam-I-Amj^2: looks like you have external mapping to more than one physical interface20:21
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mbeierlpl33g0r: But when you run the script to populate the db, you get that error?20:21
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mbeierlWhat guide are you following for setup?20:22
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mbeierlpl33g0r: I see the error, I think.  You have a : (colon) character before the IP address in the connection line20:23
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mbeierlIt should be connection = mysql://neutron :passwd@10.17.6.2/neutron20:23
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mbeierlnot password@:10.172.6.2/neutron20:23
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Redcavaliergeorgem1, do you have any suggestion on how to modify this behaviour with playing with the way the kernel handles swap?20:25
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georgem1Redcavalier: did you think about using cgroups to limit the memory use of the upload process?20:25
georgem1https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cgroups20:25
Redcavaliergeorgem1, I guess that could be worth trying20:25
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Redcavaliergeorgem1, thank you, that gives me 3 possible alternatives.20:26
mbeierlpl33g0r: see in the IP address section (the part after the @), the : (colon) character is used to denote the port number, like 127.0.0.1:3000 means IP address 127.0.0.1, port 3000.  In your config, it was just :10.17.6.2, which the software tried to read as "port # 10.17.6.2", which is an invalid int20:27
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j^2Sam-I-Am: ah cool. I'll double check my conf. Can you put an example down for just eth1 and external?20:27
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Sam-I-Amj^2: what do you mean?20:30
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j^2Not sure honestly. Never mind, let me back on it a bit20:30
Sam-I-Amok20:30
georgem1Redcavalier: although reading that "Note that the memory limit applies to RAM use only -- once tasks hit this limit, they will begin to swap. But it won't affect the performance of other processes significantly." means that cgroups might not help you much, maybe increasing your swap is a better choice; although I would probably not snapshot such a large instance20:31
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Redcavaliergeorgem1, yea, but this is for a public cloud infrastructure, so it's likely that customers will want to snapshot this.20:32
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pl33g0rmbeierl: you r absolutely correct20:34
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pl33g0r mbeierl: starting neutron-server.service20:35
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pl33g0rmbeierl: now failing to start neutron server... :(20:36
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georgem1Redcavalier: then make sure there is enough swap to allow for large VMs snapshot, and being a public cloud means users expect to be affected by other user's workloads20:37
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Redcavaliergeorgem1, yes. To be honest, I'm less worried about the workload than the possibility of an out of memory to happen.20:38
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nikeshmhi20:45
nikeshmdo nova supports incremental snapshots of instances?20:46
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nikeshmalso, i am using ubuntu 14.04, but i am unable to use live snapshot20:46
nikeshmi followed below link20:46
nikeshmhttp://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/02/09/openstack-perform-consistent-snapshots-with-qemu-guest-agent/20:47
nikeshmable to follow instructions20:47
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nikeshmbut getting error  Quiescing requires libvirt version 1.2.5 or greater20:48
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j^2Sam-I-Am: yep, spot on sir. https://github.com/chef-partners/openstack-model-t/commit/5d98c12b849694ae8f5d21a7804b24732d0938a020:50
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j^2gonna have to make that a veriable for VLAN. that’s a TODO20:50
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Sam-I-Amwhat are you trying to do here?20:51
Sam-I-Amyou can do something like flat network = blah, vlan network = blah ... then map blah:eth120:52
Sam-I-Amyou just cant have more than one blah in the mapping line20:52
j^2yeah i was just getting a POC off the ground. It’s only two nics on DO20:52
j^2it’s nothing special20:52
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j^2but eventually i’ll want a tunnel/vlan network in it20:52
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j^2but just having “external” networking on it got the agent to start, now i’m onto a virt problem. But that’s something i can attack later20:53
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Sam-I-Amso.. provider networks20:53
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Slugs_where is a good place to discuss openstack preinstalled on ubuntu 15.04?20:55
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j^2yay!20:57
j^2https://github.com/openstack/osops-example-configs20:57
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nikeshmany idea?21:00
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nikeshmany idea of how to use libvirt version greater than 1.2.5 in ubuntu21:07
nikeshm14.0421:07
nikeshmi am getting libvirt version 1.2.221:07
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nikeshmdo any one know how to use libvirt version 1.2.5 or greater in ubuntu 14.04, after installing openstack kilo from devstack, i am getting a libvirt version of 1.2.2, i am trying live snapshot of instance21:13
nikeshm?21:13
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slaweqnikeshm: in cloud-archive repo: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/ubuntu/kilo-staging there is libvirt 1.2.12 for trusty21:57
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