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v1k0d3n | have a question, in the link: https://www.rdoproject.org/Neutron_with_existing_external_network i mentions that Gilles Dubreuil is working on a method to have packstack provision with existing networks (as in the bottom of the page). | 00:37 |
v1k0d3n | has that occurred or where could i track an improvement like that? | 00:37 |
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djdxm | v1k0d3n: have you looked at his github?, im not sure when that article was posted, but the last update on github for vswitch is may 2014 | 00:43 |
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asd | hi | 03:17 |
asd | Could somebody help me with an issue on GRE? | 03:17 |
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macopython | How can I get all information of a specific tenant using keystone cli client ? | 04:08 |
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NightKhaos | macopython: "All the information"? | 04:26 |
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NightKhaos | macopython: There is tenant-get but that only tells you the name an ID. | 04:27 |
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macopython | Ok NightKhaos | 04:46 |
macopython | When I do "tenant-list", I see two tenants | 04:47 |
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macopython | They are same as users | 04:48 |
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NightKhaos | macopython: you sure? user-list? | 04:50 |
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BNwit_ | hello | 10:01 |
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BNwit_ | i faced an issue by installing openstack kilo on VMs, i had a no service record found for host when installing my compute note to fix the issue i had make a modification in the manager.py file on my controller node | 10:05 |
BNwit_ | is this problem being fixed for the net openstack kilo versions ? | 10:07 |
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kitch_ | Not sure if it’s best to discuss here or in -neutron, but I am seeing some inconsistent arp response issues with neutron and ovs. Thoughts? | 13:08 |
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DRoBeR | kitch_, I think I can't help but would like to read about those issues. Could you elaborate ? | 13:13 |
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Guest80679 | Has anyone intergrated Ceilometer with Ceph on Kilo release. I see they have added, radosgw = object-store. Wondering if I can get some assistance with it. | 13:29 |
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Guest80679 | Has anyone intergrated Ceph with Openstack Kilo release. I see they have added, radosgw = object-store. Wondering if I can get some assistance with it. | 13:32 |
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Guest80679 | They added support for radosgw into ceilometer. | 13:33 |
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kitch_ | DRoBeR: Sure. So we are having an issue where we get inconsistent results from arp requests to our instances. It’s on a per tenant network basis. And sometimes one network will respond, and sometimes not | 13:39 |
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DRoBeR | So you think there's a problem in OVS since those instances have no firewall blocking any ARP or limiting by packet amount/time ratio, right? :/ Interesting, thanks, kitch_ . | 13:41 |
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kitch_ | DRoBeR: yeah, so we see the arp requests on the physical adapter, and we can see them on the br-ex ovs bridge, but we cannot see them on the qg router gateway interface | 13:42 |
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DRoBeR | Well, you said you see them sometimes, so it couldn't be a kerner forwarding thing, I guess. :/ | 13:44 |
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kitch_ | right, we know they get through on occasion because the arp table on our provider network does have some entries | 13:44 |
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DRoBeR | It would be great if someone can tell how to proceed to debbug such problem. :/ Are you using Kilo? | 13:48 |
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georgem1 | kitch_:what do you mean by "results from arp requests to our instances"? are you pinging the floating IP of your instances from outside your cloud environment? | 13:54 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: that’s right | 13:56 |
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kitch_ | DRoBeR: we’re on juno | 13:56 |
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kitch_ | we see the arp request for the ping, but never see a response | 13:57 |
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kitch_ | So it would seem that potentially there is an ovs flow issue potentially, not having much success yet | 13:59 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: this might help a bit with the troubleshooting http://therandomsecurityguy.com/openvswitch-cheat-sheet/ | 14:02 |
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georgem1 | http://assafmuller.com/category/open-vswitch/ | 14:03 |
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georgem1 | kitch_:but if your floating IP is on the qg interface inside the qrouter namespace then the neutron node should respond to arps for that IP | 14:09 |
kitch_ | georgem1: even if we dont have the arp responder enabled | 14:10 |
kitch_ | ? | 14:10 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: what is the arp responder? | 14:13 |
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kitch_ | http://assafmuller.com/2014/05/21/ovs-arp-responder-theory-and-practice/ | 14:13 |
kitch_ | we do not have that enabled for our neutron | 14:14 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: that is for traffic between vms inside the cloud, going over the overlay tunnels | 14:15 |
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georgem1 | kitch_:I would tcpdump inside the qrouter namespace and see if the arp requests are seen in there | 14:17 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: we’ve done that and thats the problem, we dont see the arp requests in the qrouter namespace | 14:20 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: do you see any traffic inside that namespace when you run tcpdump? | 14:38 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: good question, not really. we did discover a little hack, if we manually add an arp table entry in our provider router and then ping that physical router from within our qrouter namespace it starts working | 14:47 |
kitch_ | i can then contact my floating ip/instance | 14:47 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: so there is a NAT rule in place inside that namespace for the floating IP…I think there was a problem when that namespace was created so I would just delete that router, neutron network and subnet and recreate them | 14:49 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: ok, but the issue is that we have MANY routers/namespaces with this issue | 14:51 |
kitch_ | and in fact | 14:51 |
kitch_ | one specific network will work for a while, and then stop working | 14:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | kitch_: this is on centos/fedora? vxlan networks? | 14:53 |
Sam-I-Am | is it built on vms? | 14:53 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: how many instances and floating IPs you use, roughly ? | 14:58 |
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kitch_ | Sam-I-Am: the controller is bare metal, we are on rhel 6.5 controller, gre | 14:59 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: ~1000 active instances. ~1400 tenants and 2200 networks | 15:00 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: did you increase net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh ? | 15:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | kitch_: what ver of openstack? | 15:02 |
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kitch_ | this is juno | 15:02 |
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kitch_ | we have increased neigh tables let me get our current setting | 15:03 |
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kitch_ | net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh1=30000 | 15:03 |
kitch_ | net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh2=32000 | 15:03 |
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kitch_ | net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh3=32768 | 15:03 |
kitch_ | net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_interval=2000000 | 15:03 |
kitch_ | its entirely possible that these are really poor settings | 15:03 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: yes, they are pretty high :) take a a look at https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/b44dfc18a6d7213f48c563f7a44f834a1f86e97b/playbooks/roles/openstack_hosts/defaults/main.yml | 15:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | juno wasnt designed to work on cent/rhel less than 7 | 15:10 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: this is pretty old but still good I think https://www.openstack.org/assets/presentation-media/junohpneutronatscalefinal.pdf | 15:10 |
Sam-I-Am | kernels are too old | 15:11 |
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georgem1 | and some tips for dhcp performance: https://www.mirantis.com/blog/improving-dhcp-performance-openstack/ | 15:11 |
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kitch_ | Yeah, we’re working on moving our controller to ubuntu asap | 15:12 |
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kitch_ | but we need to live with rhel 6.5 for a bit longer | 15:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | was this deployment previously icehouse or earlier at some point? | 15:13 |
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kitch_ | no, its always been juno | 15:13 |
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number1 | So I messed up deleted the "service" tenant, what do I need to do to get it set up again? Do I need to wipe the keystone database and recreate it or is there a more simple way? I'm using juno | 15:15 |
Sam-I-Am | recreate it, then recreate the users for all of the services | 15:16 |
Sam-I-Am | unless you hack the db to use the same uuid | 15:16 |
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number1 | Dang. Ok, thanks! | 15:22 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: any thoughts on our neigh table settings? | 15:33 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: I think they are pretty large but not the cause of your problems…did this issue start when you reached a certain number of networks and floating IPs? is trafic between your VMs fine? anything in the logs? any other issues worth mentioning? | 15:35 |
kitch_ | heh, well, we have seen some neighbor table overflows scattering in the logs, fairly rare, but they are there | 15:36 |
georgem1 | I would assume with such a large environment you have good monitoring in place, log aggregation, etc | 15:36 |
kitch_ | we do | 15:36 |
kitch_ | elk | 15:36 |
georgem1 | nothing useful in there? | 15:36 |
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georgem1 | if you assign a new floating IP to a VM, can you reach it? or it's just only for random floating IPs that the controller stops responding to arp requests? | 15:38 |
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number1 | Sam-I-Am: how do I go about recreating the users for each service? | 15:47 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: seems fairly random | 16:03 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: but you mention a specific network that will work for a while, and then stop working…what's different about it? it's not random if it happens consistently to floating IPs in that neutron network | 16:04 |
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kitch_ | lets take netA and netB | 16:05 |
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kitch_ | for a while floating ips in netA work and netB dont | 16:05 |
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kitch_ | then some time later they might both work, or neither will work or B works and A doesnt | 16:05 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: and A and B are just any two random networks of the 2200 networks you have? in a single network node running rhel 6.5 ? | 16:07 |
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kitch_ | georgem1: bingo | 16:08 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: and it worked fine with 1000 networks? | 16:08 |
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kitch_ | I wouldn’t got that far, lots of things got very rocky when we got to around 500 tenants, we shifted a lot of pieces and parts and configurations around, now we’re stable again, but this is still borked. georgem1 | 16:11 |
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georgem1 | kitch_: how big of a pain point is this issue for you right now? I mean how many users are locked out from their instances on a daily basis? from what you describe it must be a critical issue.. | 16:13 |
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evilrob | so this morning when I try to nova boot an instance to make sure it works before I move on to horizon and cinder, I end up with a messaging timeout | 16:15 |
evilrob | https://paste.ee/p/AG75m | 16:15 |
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evilrob | that's in nova-conductor.log, I've already checked the nova.conf and the rabbit stuff is all right. | 16:15 |
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georgem1 | evilrob: nova show 68d3075c-d99d-477f-9fb3-bf069a8a1088 , then check the compute node where it was supposed to start for errors in nova-compute.log | 16:16 |
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evilrob | georgem1: that fault shows the same as the log bits. checking the compute box | 16:17 |
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evilrob | https://paste.ee/p/tuyzE in nova-compute at 12:12, it took about the time difference between the two for the error state to be set | 16:19 |
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evilrob | hmmm... tried nova boot again after changing conf on compute node to use IP instead of hostname. nothing in nova-compute log, same error in nova-conductor log | 16:23 |
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georgem1 | evilrob: enable debug and verbose and try again, you should see errors about rabbitmq or mysql in there | 16:27 |
evilrob | debug is just the --debug flag? | 16:27 |
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georgem1 | evilrob: no, add debug=true and verbose=true in the [default] section of nova.conf and restart the nova services on the controller and compute node(s) | 16:29 |
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evilrob | nothing on nova-compute. | 16:33 |
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evilrob | lots of debug, info and audit messages | 16:33 |
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evilrob | nothing when I got the timeout on the conductor log | 16:33 |
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georgem1 | evilrob: check the neutron server log on the controller and the /var/log/neutron/openvswitch-agent.log on the compute node as well | 16:35 |
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georgem1 | evilrob:nova depends on neutron to provision the port | 16:36 |
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evilrob | I just decided to check services and see that nova-cert and nova-scheduler are both down. | 16:39 |
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evilrob | now I get a no valid host was found. | 16:41 |
jidar | anybody seen keystone token generation fail on api requests in juno on rhel? | 16:41 |
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neoark | anyone know why in ubuntu you can't change nr_requests? | 16:42 |
neoark | or schedulers/ | 16:42 |
evilrob | and at least it assigned a network this time | 16:42 |
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evilrob | I get something out of nova-compute.log now https://paste.ee/p/TK0dD just have to decode it | 16:45 |
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evilrob | "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" which apparently points to neutron config. neutron log on controller shows more rabbit errors. http://paste.openstack.org/show/vn0OKAFDC2JzsNOQENiz/ | 16:57 |
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evilrob | doublechecked neutron config including plugin ini files. still getting vif_type=binding_failed | 17:12 |
evilrob | thoughts? | 17:12 |
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evilrob | neutron agent-list shows all alive, nothing fancy in the ovs logs | 17:14 |
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DRoBeR | evilrob, is neutron loading ml2 plugin? | 17:18 |
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evilrob | the config says to. how to I check runtime? | 17:18 |
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DRoBeR | I bet you already read this: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/48407/instance-failing-to-spawn-logs-show-novaexception-unexpected-vif_typebinding_failed/ | 17:19 |
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evilrob | yeah. neutron.conf on controller (also netowrk) and compute node show core_plugin=ml2 | 17:21 |
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evilrob | do I need to specify "neutron.plugins.ml2.plugin.Ml2Plugin" | 17:22 |
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evilrob | ok, so here's a twist | 17:25 |
evilrob | against my demo-net, it works fine | 17:25 |
DRoBeR | # crudini --get /etc/neutron/neutron.conf DEFAULT core_plugin | 17:26 |
DRoBeR | ml2 | 17:26 |
DRoBeR | it works as ml2 for me. Using Kilo. | 17:26 |
evilrob | trying to spawn with my ext-net gives me the aove errors | 17:26 |
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evilrob | s/aove/above/ | 17:27 |
DRoBeR | also "router" as service_plugins | 17:27 |
DRoBeR | It works for demo-net but doesn't work for another net you've got? rare. :/ I guess I can't really help | 17:27 |
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evilrob | DRoBeR: yeah. same here. I don't think (based on demo-net working) that it's that drastic a config issue | 17:28 |
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evilrob | it's probably something more esoteric in the ovs and bridge config | 17:28 |
evilrob | something I don't quite understand yet | 17:28 |
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evilrob | should I unconfigure the address on the interface for my ext-net on my neutron box? | 17:50 |
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evilrob | that didn't seem to matter | 17:53 |
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evilrob | and now it's the classic horizon "somethign went wrong" | 18:07 |
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evilrob | sometimes I really hate apt-get | 18:10 |
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evilrob | neutron router has a the ext-net port down. not admin state, just status down. | 18:27 |
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evilrob | I wouldn't really care about not being able to boot a box on the ext-net if I could get floating IPs to it, but that isn't going to work with that router broken | 18:34 |
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evilrob | yeah. I'm stuck on the "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" | 18:54 |
evilrob | I can't help but think that the router interface status down on teh same network is related. | 18:55 |
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sarnold | ttx: could someone give a quick look at 1454074? thanks | 19:13 |
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evilrob | ok... backing up to install/configure bits. deleted all the ports, routers, subnets and nets. | 19:13 |
ttx | sarnold: looking | 19:14 |
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ttx | sarnold: forwarded | 19:16 |
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sarnold | ttx: thanks! | 19:16 |
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Anario | plz | 19:26 |
Anario | help | 19:26 |
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Anario | http://pastebin.com/ihd0JsNM | 19:26 |
Anario | neutron | 19:26 |
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Anario | neutron-server.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE | 19:27 |
evilrob | did you already see this? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/59750/neutron-server-doesnt-start-with-valueerror-empty-module-name/ | 19:27 |
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Anario | evilrob yes | 19:29 |
Anario | i have no error like service_plugins=route change route to router | 19:30 |
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Anario | :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((( | 19:34 |
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khaled | What is MCC | 19:51 |
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elico | I want to install openstack ontop of a kvm host. any directions to guides? | 20:27 |
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evilrob | back to where I can ping the gateway on my ext-net (first IP in the range) but can't get through to any floating IPs for VMs on the tenant network (demo-net) | 20:32 |
evilrob | I've made an access rule to allow all ICMP also | 20:32 |
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s3an | Is there a guide for juno > Kilo upgrade? | 21:37 |
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evilrob | interesting... grabbed cirros from apps.openstack.org, booted opened VNC and it didn't have an address assigned for eth0 | 21:48 |
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evilrob | in the dashboard it's assigned 192.168.130.3 | 21:49 |
s3an | It should DHCP the IP | 21:49 |
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s3an | can you run dhclient manually? | 21:49 |
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evilrob | what is the dhclient in cirros? | 21:51 |
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evilrob | "cirros-dhcpc up eth0" | 21:52 |
evilrob | nothing coming back | 21:52 |
s3an | neutronmeta-data service running? | 21:52 |
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evilrob | neutron-metadata-agent is running | 21:54 |
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evilrob | on the controller/neutron box | 21:55 |
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s3an | maybe try a tcpdump inside the net name space on the neutron box to see if the DHCP request is getting there from the nova-compute box | 21:56 |
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evilrob | assuming that's the qdhcp-<uuid> namespace | 21:59 |
evilrob | nothing seems to be coming through. | 21:59 |
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evilrob | the router is up and working. tcpdump there shows me the arps on the external network like I'd expect | 22:01 |
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s3an | do you see the DHCP request int he router name space, I suspect you would see it there as it will be a broadcase | 22:02 |
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s3an | /s/broadcase/broadcast/g | 22:02 |
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evilrob | nope. just arps. | 22:03 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Can the router/VM ping the port(s) that DHCP is running on? | 22:04 |
evilrob | not sure how to do that. | 22:04 |
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evilrob | I can ifconfig eth0 on the VM to the assigned address, but then it can't ping anything | 22:05 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Sounds like the problem might be the internode comms. What are you using for tenant networks? VLANs? GRE? | 22:06 |
evilrob | gre | 22:06 |
s3an | Could be security groups not allowing outbound connections also, check for iptables hits on the compute hosts if you sue security groups | 22:06 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: Yours is the HA 30ish node deployment right? | 22:07 |
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evilrob | nope. 3 nodes for now. just trying to get it working. no HA as of yet | 22:07 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: Noted. 1 control, 1 compute, 1 network? | 22:07 |
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evilrob | 1 control+network, one compute, one storage (notin the picture yet) | 22:08 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Ahh. Is there a firewall runing on the control+network and compute nodes? | 22:08 |
evilrob | yeah, but it's all nova & neutron stuff | 22:09 |
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s3an | You could try and find out where the comms breaks between the VM and the network node using tcpdump on the interfaces along the way. | 22:10 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: Is the default policy on the INPUT chain deny? If so, add the following rule: -A INPUT -i <iface of gre tunnels> -p gre -m comment --comment "Allow Mesh Traffic Unrestricted" -j ACCEPT (Or you can be a little more restrictive by limiting it via -s instead of -i, up to you. | 22:10 |
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evilrob | policy ACCEPT | 22:11 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: (same logic applies for a REJECT all rule at the end) | 22:11 |
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evilrob | no reject rules that I see either. | 22:12 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Time to find the break in the chain as s3an just suggested. Get out your tcpdump, replicate your OVS ports, etc. :P | 22:13 |
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s3an | Yea, don't forget to check your MTU's and network card offload features as they can cause strange issues such as this. | 22:15 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: I would enter the netns of the qrouter and see if it can least access the DHCP server, you can find out the IP of it doing a port list. | 22:15 |
evilrob | neutron port-list | 22:16 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: And by access I mean ping. Let me check if that works without any configuration. | 22:16 |
evilrob | wrong window :( | 22:16 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Yep, you should be able to ping the DHCP namespaces from your router without having to do any special firewall rules or anything. You are familar with executing within a namespace yes? | 22:17 |
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evilrob | only vaguely. | 22:18 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Okay, simple basics are: ip netns exec <name of namespace> command. In this case ping. You can get the avalible namespaces with ip netns list. In your case both the DHCP and router Namespaces will be on your management nodes. | 22:19 |
evilrob | ok. I can ping 192.168.130.2. 130.1 is the gateway. | 22:19 |
evilrob | I can ping 130.1 also | 22:19 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Excellent, so the problem is likely the connection between the nodes. | 22:20 |
evilrob | I just ran bash as the command. that gets me there too | 22:20 |
evilrob | physical? or the tunnel? | 22:20 |
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adil452100 | Hello | 22:21 |
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NightKhaos | Physical if it's being blocked by a firewall (hence the iptables rule I suggested checking), the tunnel if not. | 22:21 |
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adil452100 | Any solution already integrated in openstack for energy consumption ? | 22:22 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100: Limiting energy consumption, or measuring consumption? | 22:23 |
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adil452100 | Measuring | 22:24 |
s3an | evilrob: I agree it does sound like the gre link link between nova-compute box and network controller, I would start bt checking iptables, MTU and card offload features | 22:24 |
evilrob | well that interface on the neutron box doesn't have an IP anymore, so I can't ping it directly from the compute box. but tcpdump is seeing similar things on the interfaces | 22:24 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100: Celiometer can be setup to measure various resource usage. Unfortunately mapping "this particular tenant is using X Watt" is not technically possible. | 22:24 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Wait, can both endpoints of the mesh (the IP address you set in your ml2 config) talk to each other? | 22:26 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100: You can however make a "best guess". | 22:26 |
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adil452100 | NightKhaos: measuring , for the whole plateform to poweroff hypervisors | 22:27 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100: Isn't that more a dynamic loading problem than a measurement problem? | 22:28 |
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evilrob | NightKhaos: endpoints of the mesh? | 22:28 |
manous | hello aim on centos kvm, how can i create images for my openstack without use ram ? | 22:29 |
evilrob | the ovs local_ip is the one that went away when I un-numbered that interface. | 22:29 |
evilrob | that doesn't seem right | 22:29 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: If you dump the vsctl from ovs (ovs-vsctl show) you can see, under br-tun, all the tunnels it's trying to make. In you configuration, it'll be just the one. In your full deployment, it will be one to every other node that has an openvswitch-agent running, unless you're running l2population. | 22:31 |
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evilrob | options: {df_default="true", in_key=flow, local_ip="10.1.2.162", out_key=flow, remote_ip="10.1.2.164"} | 22:31 |
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evilrob | 10.1.2.162 doesn't exist anymore | 22:31 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: There's your problem. | 22:32 |
adil452100_ | NighKhaos: the idea is about migrating VMs from an under used hypervisor to another one to reduce the overall enregy consumption | 22:32 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: It's trying to make a connection that is bound to an interface that doesn't exist, and the other end is trying to connect to a mechine that doesn't exist anymore. | 22:32 |
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adil452100_ | we don't talk about tenants but the whole plateform | 22:32 |
evilrob | correction. 10.1.2.162 exists, but I've not been able to ping it anywhere since I finished the neutron config. | 22:33 |
NightKhaos | adil452100_: Yes, I get the point. I'm just saying, that's not an energy measurement problem, that's a migrating and balancing problem. | 22:33 |
adil452100_ | NightKhaos> like this : http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/aiccsa/2014/7100/00/07073221.pdf | 22:33 |
evilrob | should that local_ip be the router ip? | 22:33 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: local_ip should be the LOCAL IP, of the node. | 22:33 |
s3an | Ideally local_ip will be the IP of ethX that ia dedicated for your GRE traffic | 22:34 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: Okay, so basically, you need to make sure your VMs can live migrate for one. That requires a decent shared storage. We achieve this by boot-from-volume and Ceph under Cinder. | 22:34 |
evilrob | ok. controller/neutron box has 2 interfaces. 10.1.1.162 and 10.1.2.162. 10.1.2.0/24 is where the ext-net is, and when I ran the "ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex INTERFACE_NAME" I ceased to be able tp ping anything on 10.1.2.0/24 from the neutron box | 22:35 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: First of all, don't run your mesh over your ext-net. Second, when you added that interface, you invalidated the IP on the native port. If you want to talk on that itnerface you nee to move the IP on the bridge. | 22:36 |
s3an | NightKhaos: Do you limit your users to only boot from volume? | 22:37 |
NightKhaos | s3an: Yes. | 22:37 |
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evilrob | NightKhaos: only have 2 interfaces. so should I make the local_ip the other interface? | 22:37 |
adil452100_ | NightKhaos> ok we are aware about vm migration .. but in openstack code we can find this problem already addressed ?>>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6757808&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6757808 | 22:37 |
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jidar | anybody run a calamari server for ceph? | 22:40 |
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adil452100_ | jidar> yep, what's the problemm ? | 22:40 |
jidar | I think I just figured it out | 22:41 |
jidar | man, this admin password wouldn't change for anything | 22:41 |
jidar | and compliance :( | 22:41 |
NightKhaos | adil452100_: It's a problem that's been solved yes, but you should make sure it works, because the default deployment method doesn't always allow for it. | 22:42 |
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adil452100_ | NightKhaos> how that's been solved ? | 22:42 |
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evilrob | NightKhaos: switched local_ip to the other IP on the box, restarted openvswitch-switch, and the local_ip is changed, but the remote_ip is still on the other network. | 22:43 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: You'll need to restart the agents on both. | 22:44 |
evilrob | yup... jsut realized that | 22:44 |
s3an | NightKhaos: What release do you run? | 22:44 |
NightKhaos | s3an: Juno. Moving to Kilo, probably. | 22:44 |
NightKhaos | s3an: To be clear, it's an informal policy at the moment, not a hard coded one. Through I'm looking into making it the later. | 22:45 |
evilrob | ok. it's got 3 ports under the br-tun bridge. only the last one is right. how to I get rid of the other two? | 22:45 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: Technically you don't need to, however you can try running an ovs-cleanup and restarting the agent again. | 22:46 |
evilrob | though the cirros instance got a dhcp instance. so that was the problem | 22:46 |
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adil452100_ | NightKhaos> thank you MR. TAYLOR ;) | 22:47 |
evilrob | theoretically this may have fixed my floating IP issue too | 22:47 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: To be clear, the live migration problem has been solved. Auto balancing I haven't seen a solution in the wild apart from bespoke ones. | 22:47 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: That's my first name. | 22:47 |
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evilrob | NightKhaos: now I owe you beer too | 22:49 |
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NightKhaos | evilrob: No problem. :) | 22:50 |
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evilrob | where are you so I can arrange a "business trip" ;) | 22:50 |
NightKhaos | evilrob: NZ. | 22:51 |
evilrob | now that's a business trip I need to make. hell yeah | 22:51 |
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adil452100_ | NightKhaos> Thank you Mr Bertie :) but have you an idea about the integration of this tool or similar to the openstack code base : | 22:52 |
adil452100_ | https://launchpad.net/kwapi | 22:52 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: Yep, I knew that there would be a way to collect wattage info into celiometer. | 22:53 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: I don't have that problem, fortunately, DC is too small, so our measuring it stickly for billing purposes. Hence my inital confusion with the problem. Measurement I think "billing". | 22:54 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: So, if I undeerstand, what you want to do is shut-down compute nodes when they're been under utilised? | 22:55 |
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adil452100_ | NightKhaos> I wanna just know if there is someone in the community who can give some insight about "if there is already a hard coded solution" because we plan to do it .. | 22:56 |
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NightKhaos | adil452100_: Ahh, I think the answer to that problem is "No." right now. But if I'm wrong I'd be gladly corrected. Saying on the powerbill, even for us, would be a good thing. | 22:57 |
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adil452100_ | yep ! shut-down compute nodes when they're been under utilised for energy effeciency | 22:57 |
s3an | NightKhaos: Did you try running with RBD as ephemeral storage? | 22:58 |
NightKhaos | adil452100_: And I can see why celiometer would be useful for this... is running 3 nodes at 20% better than running one at 60% for power consumption, etc? | 22:58 |
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NightKhaos | s3an: We did. Found that while it worked, we still got much better performance out of boot from problem WRT I/O. | 22:59 |
NightKhaos | from volume* I'm tried. | 22:59 |
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s3an | NightKhaos: Cool, I will revisit it if it is stable now - I am also looking to push up from Juno to Kilo shortly, I will let you know how it goes. | 23:00 |
adil452100_ | NightKhaos> thank you for your answers, but I have to go now .. thank you again | 23:00 |
adil452100_ | :) | 23:00 |
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NightKhaos | s3an: Stable. Ha. That'll be the day. ;) | 23:01 |
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NightKhaos | s3an: I don't recall if we had to do anything special to get live migration working unfortunately, so YMMV. | 23:01 |
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NightKhaos | s3an: You had any problems with networking? Something is wrong with mine and I can't for the life of me figure out why. The packets are being dropped after DNAT when entering into the tenant networks. | 23:18 |
NightKhaos | s3an: It's one of the reasons we're thinking of moving to Kilo. We've redeployed manually (trying to write our own inhouse tools) | 23:19 |
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