Thursday, 2015-06-11

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lothSam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/glance-install.html auth_uri supposed to be there twice?00:43
Sam-I-Amloth: one is auth_url00:43
Sam-I-Amhopefully someday that gets fixed00:43
lothAlso i dont see username or password in the config options http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/ch_configuring-openstack-image-service.html00:43
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lothsupposed to be admin_?00:44
Sam-I-Amsome services dont import oslo middleware correctly00:44
Sam-I-Amyeah00:44
Sam-I-Amthe config ref is auto generated, and sometimes the services dont do their docs consistently00:44
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lothSam-I-Am: is the new stuff 'auth_plugin' 'project_domain_id' etc needed? I'm using an existing juno config00:50
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lothmine just has auth_uri, identity_uri, admin_tenant_name, admin_user, admin_password00:51
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iepuppcan i setup external network using ip aliasing ie adding port eth0:0 to br-ex02:08
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Sam-I-Amloth: yeah you should use those things with kilo02:59
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Sam-I-Amloth: they enable keystone v3 from services02:59
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mrungehello, I'm having an issue with launching an instance with neutron. can someone please give me a hand on how to debug a metadata timeout issue?12:15
mrungea log looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/283846/12:16
mrunge(single network, network has a single router, one instance launched, got an ip address, but metadata is not being injected12:16
mrunge(obviously)12:16
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Sam-I-Amdid you use the install guide or something else?12:24
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mrungeSam-I-Am, uh, I used a packstack install12:30
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mrungeSam-I-Am, basically this one here: https://www.rdoproject.org/Neutron_with_existing_external_network12:31
Sam-I-Amits probably a config error somewhere12:32
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DaveJ__ndipanov: Hi, sorry to bother you again.  I was having issues with the NumaTopology filter, and was hoping you could help.13:53
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ndipanovDaveJ__, what's up13:53
DaveJ__ndipanov: I have a 32 core machine, and have two flavors one with 12 cores and 1 with 4 cores.  With NUMA {"hw:cpu_policy": "dedicated"} on both flavours13:53
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DaveJ__ndipanov: I can launch two instances of the 12 core flavor on a single host.  But it won't let me launch the 4 core flavor as well (i.e. I would be running 3 instances in total)13:54
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ndipanovDaveJ__, you're going to have to report a bug if you think something is wrong13:55
ndipanovbe sure to attach the output of virsh capabilities and the instance xmls pls13:55
ndipanovflavor show etc.13:56
DaveJ__ndipanov: Ok will do - just wanted to check the expected logic.13:56
DaveJ__Ok13:56
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ndipanovwell if you have 16 CPUs per numa node13:56
ndipanovthen it should work13:56
ndipanovunless you reserve some cores for nova13:57
ndipanovthen it would fail13:57
ndipanovpotentially13:57
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DaveJ__I have 16 per node, but I've reserved 4 for the host (using isolcpu + vcpu_pin).  So technically 14 in each node.  So one 12 core system can fit in each, but then I need to spread my 4 core system across both numa nodes.13:57
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ndipanovyep13:59
ndipanovso you need to do a hw:numa_nodes=213:59
ndipanovand you'll be grand13:59
ndipanovwell... should be13:59
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DaveJ__ndipanov: Thats what I thought.  It doesn't seem to be working though.  I'll double check my env and then raise a bug with the details you mentioned.  Thanks14:00
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ndipanovawesome thanks14:01
ndipanovwell14:01
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ndipanovdepends which cpus you reserved14:01
ndipanovbut yeah - report a bug and I'll comment14:02
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clouddigusing the openstack command line client, is there some way to list all projects associated with a user?14:13
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ogzy_i need urgent help14:43
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ogzy_after kilo upgrade at the compute node i dont have the related directory for a vm under /var/lib/nova/instances but a delta file, can i recover?14:44
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DaveJ__ndipanov: Defintely something not working as expected.  Raised this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/146428614:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1464286 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NumaTopololgyFilter Not behaving as expected (returns 0 hosts)" [Undecided,New]14:50
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ndipanovDaveJ__, thanks - will look into it.14:53
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VeriliumMost of the information I'm finding about running OpenStack in HA with haproxy and such seem to mention being able to run haproxy on the controller nodes.  But since most of the services seem to bind to all available IPs, which blocks haproxy from starting...  Is the only solution to go through each service and force it to bind only to a specific IP?16:12
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RichardRaseleyVerilium: Can you reference the bit which talks about running haproxy on the controller nodes?16:13
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Veriliumhttp://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ha-aa-haproxy.html16:14
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RichardRaseleyI can't imagine a production scenario under which that makes sense.16:14
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Verilium"Also it is a common practice to collocate HAProxy instances with existing OpenStack controllers."16:14
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VeriliumMost of the architecture diagrams I'm seeing also show this...  Seems to make sense, technically.  It's really just the port binding that's a surprise.16:15
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VeriliumWell, it makes sense, but it's still a surprise.  As long as I can get all the services to bind to a specific IP.  Seems I can, but yeah, wanted to make sure if this all made sense.16:16
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Sam-I-AmVerilium: heads up, the current ha guide is old.16:17
Sam-I-Amits being re-done16:17
RichardRaseleyVerilium: My response would be [citation needed]. In my mind, it's not much different than a traditional 3-tier web-app. You'd want the load-balancers to exist 'above' the thing(s) across which it is balancing load (I could be missing something).16:17
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RichardRaseleyVerilium: More directly - in the haproxy configuration, you should be binding it to a specified virtual_ip:port pair.16:18
Sam-I-Amfor security reasons, you probably dont want to co-locate haproxy (with a public ip) on any machine running the openstack control plane16:18
psjrNew here. Does anyone have experience with TryStack? I just joined the FB group and am waiting for access.16:18
Sam-I-Ambut if you have to, it should listen on some external IP/interface, and the services listen on something internal16:19
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  ...ah. :P16:19
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VeriliumRichardRaseley:  Yeah, I can see what you mean, makes more sense, as far as splitting things up in tier...16:19
Sam-I-Amideally you dont run haproxy in production :)16:19
RichardRaseleypsjr: I have not used it.16:19
Sam-I-Ambut if you have to...16:19
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VeriliumRichardRaseley:  Yes, the setup I was trying was to have 3 controller nodes with both keepalived, haproxy and the various API services, with a VIP.16:20
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  Why not haproxy?  You mean, as opposed to a hardware solution?16:20
Sam-I-Amyeah16:20
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VeriliumYeah...  Worse is, we have citrix netscalers...16:21
RichardRaseleyI think haproxy is a reasonable thing to run in production - depending on scale / requirements / etc.16:21
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Sam-I-Amick16:21
VeriliumBut anyhow, maybe further down the road.  For now, it's more for proof of concept and to get something up and running.16:21
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Sam-I-Amyeah it'll work16:22
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RichardRaseleyVerilium: To answer your original question, yes. Explicitly scope the services to listen on the IP you want them to listen on.16:22
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Sam-I-Amjust be mindful of security if you put your lb on the same box as your openstack services16:22
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RichardRaseleyI try to shy away from '*' as a general rule.16:22
VeriliumRichardRaseley:  Thanks for the info.  I'll go with setting up 2 more instances for load balancing and have them in front of the rest.  More VMs to setup, but less hassle with trying to bind all the services, heh.16:22
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RichardRaseleyVerilium: Note that you do now have Puppet modules to manage your netscaler. =]16:23
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VeriliumHeh, that could come in handy.16:24
Sam-I-Amthere's also os-ansible-deployment :)16:24
VeriliumHmm, seems there's an ansible module too, interesting...16:24
Sam-I-Amwhile we're on the topic of automation16:24
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  Yeah, OSAD is something I need to look into after this.16:24
Sam-I-Amits pretty slick16:24
VeriliumI'm glad I set everything up manually for the comprehension aspect of it all.16:25
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RichardRaseleyYep, lots of options - I am biased towards Puppet (employee), but +2 for more automation options.16:25
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Sam-I-Amyeah thats important16:25
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VeriliumBut now that it's been done...  I just want to deploy more nodes automagically. :P16:25
Sam-I-Ambecause automation wont help when openstack breaks in spectacular ways16:25
Sam-I-Amthe generally approved method is install manually (from docs.openstack.org), figure out what you need, secure it, then automate the things16:26
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VeriliumYeah, I don't mind puppet, it's just that the implementation of it at the current workplace didn't work out for various reasons and the adoption of ansible seems to be working out a bit better.16:26
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Sam-I-Ampeople used to write their own automation tools, but now there's a lot of pre-built options16:26
VeriliumSam-I-Am:  I'm already scared enough as it is as far as when it breaks or when I'll have to debug something.16:26
Sam-I-Amansible is pretty easy to learn16:26
Verilium...especially as far as the networking layer is concerned.16:26
Sam-I-Amnetworking is the most fun16:27
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Sam-I-Amhave you looked at the networking guide?16:27
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VeriliumI have, I've seen the mention of network namespace usage and all.  I kind of get it, at an overview perspective.  But still...16:27
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VeriliumAnd then there's the other problem of getting the rest of the team more "familiar" with all of this to be able to debug it also.16:28
Sam-I-Amget them all little lab environments16:28
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VeriliumI already have trouble having some of them learn ansible.16:29
arielleslie" I kind of get it, at an overview perspective.  But still..." Sums up my relationship with OpenStack very well.16:29
VeriliumHehe.16:29
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VeriliumI still think my days might be "oh my god please don't break".16:29
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Sam-I-Ami find there's always something i dont know16:30
ircclientHi, i want to change a doc in kilo release of swift , is it valid to do so . as no review  for kilo is generated ?16:30
Sam-I-Ambut it helps to hire people that know stuff16:30
* Verilium nods.16:31
VeriliumThe whole idea of OpenStack is just so daunting.16:31
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Sam-I-Amyou find a lot of specialists but no one that knows all the services completely16:33
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VeriliumWell, it's so many different pieces/modules that I'm not finding that all that surprising.16:35
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jlombardoI could use some help with a neutron issue. I am setting up a new stack and trying to add an external network with the vlan provider type but am getting the message: Invalid input for operation: physical_network 'physnet1' unknown  for VLAN provider network. Anyone able to help out?17:02
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Sam-I-Amjlombardo: you need a bridge mapping17:03
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Sam-I-AmVerilium: i understand all of the services enough to configure/use them, but my focus is neutron17:04
jlombardoI added the bridge mapping into the plugin.ini file for physnet1:br-ex on the network node and it shows in the neutron agent-show output17:04
Sam-I-AmVerilium: hence the networking guide17:04
Sam-I-Amdid you also add it to the ml2_vlan section?17:05
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jlombardonetwork_vlan_ranges = physnet1:200:20217:05
jlombardobridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex17:05
jlombardoShould that propagate into the neutron.ml2_vlan_allocations table?17:06
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Sam-I-Amnot until there's a network17:07
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Sam-I-Amalso, you need network_vlan_ranges defined on all of your nodes17:08
Sam-I-Ambut the bridge mapping only needs to be on the node that has the bridge17:08
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jlombardoAh, so all compute nodes need the network_vlan_ranges for the external network to be able to create it?17:08
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Sam-I-Amprimarily the controller node17:09
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Sam-I-Amsince thats where the api and database are17:09
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jlombardoThat was it! Thank you so much.17:11
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Sam-I-Amsure17:13
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Sam-I-Amjlombardo: have you looked at the network guide?17:13
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jlombardoI seem to often have trouble distinguishing between what configs go on the controllers vs the compute nodes vs the network nodes. I have looked at pieces of the guide but am putting in on my to-do list to re-read through tonight17:15
Sam-I-Amwhen in doubt, you duplicate most of it17:15
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jlombardoGood to know17:15
Sam-I-Amhowever, the agent config is specific to the node17:15
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jlombardoBy agent config, do you mean the agent section in the plugin.ini and the ovs local_ip or something else?17:18
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raj_In the broad, Big Bad Internet (tm) hostnames are case-insensitve.  I and a colleague have been trying to use forced_host, and took a host list (undercloud) showing the nova compute nodes and used those for the --availabilty-zone option.  We were getting no valid host found.  My colleague has found that the name compares are being made case-sensitive.  Is this a known issue?  (Juno)17:31
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Sam-I-Amthings like AZs are case-sensitive17:33
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raj_this wasn't the AZ part though, but the hostname part17:35
clouddigusing the openstack client, is there some way to list all projects associated with a user?17:36
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raj_and I'm told I may have started from a list of guest names, but perhaps I'm too Internet old-school, I'd have expected anything dealing with hostnames to do so case-insensitively17:37
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Sam-I-Amhostnames should probably be case-insensitive, but guess names are not always host names17:37
Sam-I-Amguest17:37
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raj_If you consider that bug-worthy, I'd be happy to submit one but need a pointer to where.17:40
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larsksraj_: nova bugs can be filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs17:46
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clouddigI did openstack role add --project $project --user $user $role17:47
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larsksclouddig: I think the answer is "no".  There is some interesting discussion at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15525827/is-it-possible-to-ge-the-list-of-tenants-a-user-is-associated-with-in-openstack on that topic.17:52
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clouddiglarsks: I guess I gave an answer to what I was trying to accomplish, not how to find it. I used a few commands to find the information17:54
clouddig1) openstack role assignment list17:54
clouddig2) openstack role list17:54
clouddig3) openstack user list17:54
clouddig4) openstack project list17:54
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clouddigI then manually matched up IDs until I could see whether the user I was interested in was associated with a given project17:55
clouddiglarsks: rather laborious process that ^.17:55
larsksYeah.17:55
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raj_larsks, thanks, I'll go submit one now.18:02
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raj_hmm, I don't recall setting-up two-factor authentication but launchpad is asking me for such18:05
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larsksHuh, I didn't even know that launchpad *supported* 2fa!18:08
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raj_seems to be some sort of beta which started in April.  I switched to my "personal" login rather than my company-affiliated one and that seems to have gotten past it.  I now have to figure-out how to find the openstack version :)18:12
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raj_anyway, for the curious:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/146434818:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1464348 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "hostname comparison for foced_host should be case-insensitive" [Undecided,New]18:15
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lothSam-I-Am: can you clarify what should be placed in the auth section of [neutron] in nova.conf? The install guide mentions to use the traditional admin_username etc but the kilo docs say to use auth plugin?18:49
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Sam-I-Amloth: for kilo?18:57
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Sam-I-Amrather, when you say 'the install guide mentions to use the traditional...' which install guide?18:59
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Sam-I-Amjuno does, but it changes for kilo18:59
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lothSam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-controller-node.html19:03
loth"In the [neutron] section, configure access parameters:"19:03
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lothhowever the recommended parameters are listed as deprecated in this doc http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html19:04
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Sam-I-Amloth: interesting, the nova folks must have crammed that change in just prior to release19:21
Sam-I-Amloth: when i wrote the guide, those options didnt work19:22
Sam-I-Amthey still might not, but worth giving it a shot and then filing a bug on the docs if they do, or nova if they dont :)19:22
lothWhat should the parameters be if using keystone v3? same as the keystone_authtoken section on this page? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_nova.html#nova-controller-install19:23
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Sam-I-Amloth: it should look similar to the [nova] section of neutron.conf iirc19:32
Sam-I-Ami think19:32
lothSam-I-Am: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8836580 ?19:32
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Sam-I-Amid try that and see what happens19:33
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lothHmm, noticed region_name is missing from the nova.conf section but present in the neutron section19:34
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nova-newbiehi, i hit an error were after I rebooted my VM the VM disappeared ....looking through the logs it see it was deleted out of the database due to it not being able to connect to the compute.  Reason was during this time I had a network error which prevented connections to my compute.  I was unable to recreate the problem so I can't get more logs.  Wondering if there was somethign I could look at the would explain why my VM was to19:42
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit has been restarted to terminate a persistent looping third-party CI bot21:06
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sbfoxHi all, anyone here done keystone with ldap and mysql hybrid ?21:10
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SaiHi all, I am trying to integrate Openstack juno and Opendaylight helium SR2 according to https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenStack_and_OpenDaylight21:39
SaiI am facing issues after the integration....the main concern is when I try to create a new network, I get an error "The service catalog is empty"21:40
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SaiI checked output of keystone catalog and the output is not empty, can anyone tell me how I can resolve this issue?21:41
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mcgillnIs there anyway to use the Cinder Scheduler to migrate volumes to different backends?23:15
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mcgillnTo my knowledge, the only way to migrate a volume is to specify the destination backend -- "host"23:17
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