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| laney_ | how do i enable multi-monitor with spice? im using virt-viewer but display 2-4 are grayed-out | 02:03 |
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| side_control | im stuck, whatever i try, the volume just hang on creating http://fpaste.org/222144/ ... using a dedicated iscsi target over iser per compute1, created a vg cinder-volumes | 02:07 |
| side_control | this is on rhel7 jun o | 02:07 |
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| NightKhaos | Silly question of the day, which virtual router IDs does Neutron utilise so that I can make sure that any other virtual routers running on the same network (e.g. load balancing of the API) doesn't conflict with them> | 03:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dunno, but you could find out | 03:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure why you'd have other things ha'd on the same network though | 03:58 |
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| NightKhaos | Sam-I-Am: Reading the implementation docks it appears it does the multicast for VRRP over a dedicated (per tenant) adminstrative network, and not over the external network (which is where I was concerned conflicts would occur). So if I'm understanding this correctly, there won't be an issue. | 04:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | last i checked, it sent the vrrp stuff over the external network | 04:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | it is a separate ip network, though | 04:03 |
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| NightKhaos | See that's concerning, because the external in our case would be a (subset) of the public IP addresses we're BGPing out to the world. Inside that set are other HA VRRP devices, namely: haproxy under keepalived for the API. | 04:07 |
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| NightKhaos | Sam-I-Am: are you sure it goes over the external? It definately looks like, from the design docs I'm reading, the multicast traffic at least, and the authentication, is a private network. | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | it could have changed for kilo | 04:10 |
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| NightKhaos | And I'm deploying Juno. :S | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | but when i used it in juno, it went over the external network (for a router that has external net access, of course) | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would not use l3ha or dvr in juno | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | they are buggy | 04:10 |
| NightKhaos | Sam-I-Am: and Kilo, having only been out a a few weeks, is also likely buggy. :P *sigh* | 04:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd say things like l3ha and dhcp improved | 04:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to try them | 04:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | it would also be nice to have a configurable interface for sending ha traffic | 04:13 |
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| NightKhaos | Sam-I-Am: No, it definately looks like in Juno (and Kilo) the HA mulitcast traffic (i.e. the VRRP traffic) goes of a seperate network. Look at this in the Wiki, the configuration template clearly is using the "Track port" for L3 agents, so it looks like it's creating another L2 network per tenant, hidden, for ha/vrrp traffic. | 04:28 |
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| NightKhaos | Which is good for me! Means that the multicast traffic can go over any network I like without worrying. | 04:28 |
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| bartek | hello, i need some support in making copy on write with ceph backend working in default Kilo deployment, anybody can help? | 09:15 |
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| SamYaple | bartek: what do you need help with? | 09:19 |
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| bartek | main problem is that nova downloads image to local disk and then performs "rbd import" instead of making direct clone on ceph. I set "use_cow_images" to true following docs but that doesn't help. According to http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/juno/implemented/rbd-clone-image-handler.html copy-on-write should have been working since Juno. | 09:23 |
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| SamYaple | bartek: you have to have direct_url set. can you post your glance and nova conf? | 09:24 |
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| bartek | indeed i don't have this option set, you mean "show_image_direct_url=True" in glance-api.conf in [DEFAULT]? Speaking of nova.conf the only setting docs mention is "allowed_direct_url_schemes" ([file]) in [glance] section | 09:36 |
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| ganjawizard | hi guys, short question .. is it possible to use more than 1 hypervisor on 1 compute node ... for example, i wanted to run docker container and windows instances on one node | 10:01 |
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| SamYaple | bartek: i just wanted to know your nova confi, the direct_url in glance is required for CoW to work | 10:02 |
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| SamYaple | ganjawizard: can it be done? yes, but not easily and certainly not with out of the box packages | 10:02 |
| SamYaple | bartek: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ there is the "this definetely works" guide to ceph and openstack | 10:03 |
| ganjawizard | SamYaple: is there a official guide for this, if you know one? | 10:03 |
| SamYaple | ganjawizard: lol nowhere near an official guide for that exists. I dont think there ever will be one because "offically" youll want to keep your compute hosts seperate | 10:04 |
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| SamYaple | ive done it in labs, but i probably owuldn't do it in production | 10:04 |
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| ganjawizard | SamYaple: good to know! thank you friend. btw. what would your recommended setup for 50 tenants be? with storage and all other services. | 10:06 |
| SamYaple | the number of tenants/projects doesn't really mean anything. itll be usage for sure | 10:06 |
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| SamYaple | how many instances/how large is the flavor/what about cinder storage/etc | 10:06 |
| ganjawizard | SamYaple: well the most tenants use docker container and some other might use windows as well. maybe 1win and 5 docker instances per project. i would use cinder and glance to use swift as backend storage. but i am still a noob in openstack setups. thats why i am looking for some tipps | 10:08 |
| SamYaple | the size of that windows VM would be a good place to start. as far as the docker things, that driver isn't what I would call stable at the moment and limiting users usage isn't really possible last time i checked | 10:10 |
| SamYaple | granted that was back in juno | 10:10 |
| SamYaple | i woudl definetely not build out and entire openstack cluster first | 10:10 |
| SamYaple | build it small and monitor the usage | 10:10 |
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| ganjawizard | SamYaple: well i tried so far everything i could with devstack all in one on a single server. but it cant give me the full knowledge on how to set up evertyhing. i think 1 windows should have at least 2-4gb ram and 2 vcpus.. | 10:12 |
| ganjawizard | SamYaple: and i dont know if i should use for neutron a seperate server, or setup on 2 controllers | 10:13 |
| SamYaple | with what youve told me, i would probably say ~20 compute nodes. but that is all 100% dependant on the hardware and usage so i cant give you any better advice than to build a small cluster and grow it as needed | 10:13 |
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| ganjawizard | SamYaple: thats not a few amount ^^ ... i thought on 2 good hosted root-server as compute node. the one as docker hypervisor and windows on the other. | 10:15 |
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| SamYaple | for 50 tenants? i would doubt it | 10:18 |
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| SamYaple | but like i said, it all depnds on usage | 10:18 |
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| ganjawizard | SamYaple: alright ... and what do you think about neutron? in the controller or a single server | 10:19 |
| SamYaple | depends on your usage | 10:23 |
| SamYaple | you might even put it on the compute nodes, it just depends | 10:23 |
| ganjawizard | thank you very much for your time sam | 10:23 |
| SamYaple | sorry i cant give you anything more specific | 10:24 |
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| ganjawizard | SamYaple: thats no problem. but now i can imagine the dimension of the setup a little bit better now | 10:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | NightKhaos: there is a separate network, but you might want to see what bridge that network traffic winds up riding over | 11:38 |
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| orzel | Hello. I have a problem where instances keep on rebooting. I'm using using kilo. I've fixed the problem by going back from libvirt 1.2.15 to 1.2.14 and qemu 2.3.0 to 2.2.1. Anybody has experienced this ? Or have more information about it ? | 12:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that version of libvirt seems really new | 12:32 |
| ogzy | which python module is used to develop openstack rest apis? | 12:32 |
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| SamYaple | orzel: both of those versions are really really new. i think 2.3.0 qemu is actually the latest | 12:37 |
| SamYaple | what erros are you seeing? anything in the logs or dmesg? | 12:37 |
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| orzel | SamYaple: i couldn't find any reason anywhere. Going back was a wild guess | 12:40 |
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| orzel | nothing in openstack logs on controller/network/compute nodes | 12:40 |
| orzel | nothing in 'libvird' logs | 12:40 |
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| orzel | it rebooted so fast i dont even know exactly when it was rebooting | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | dmesg/messages.log/syslog? | 12:40 |
| orzel | on openstack nodes ? nothing worthy | 12:41 |
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| orzel | not sure where to find those for instances | 12:41 |
| SamYaple | are you sure the process wasn't just getting killed? like OOM or sometyhign? | 12:41 |
| orzel | yes, pretty sure. Testing stuff is underloaded | 12:41 |
| orzel | and it happened on two different nodes | 12:41 |
| SamYaple | can you narrow down the change that helped (either libvirt or qemu) | 12:42 |
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| orzel | currently doing just this :) | 12:43 |
| SamYaple | well do it quicker snap snap | 12:43 |
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| orzel | it fails with qemu 2.2.1 and libvirt 1.2.15 | 12:49 |
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| SamYaple | its probably libvirt at fault | 12:50 |
| orzel | looks like yes | 12:50 |
| orzel | testing opposite cross | 12:50 |
| SamYaple | join me here wont you http://libvirt.org/news.html | 12:50 |
| orzel | that is .. ? | 12:52 |
| orzel | quite a lot of changes they have | 12:52 |
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| SamYaple | changelogs :) | 12:52 |
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| SamYaple | most of them are bug fixes | 12:52 |
| SamYaple | the instance that crash, do they have multiple disks? | 12:52 |
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| orzel | they have lot of bugs :-) | 12:52 |
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| orzel | SamYaple: no multiple disk. Even the simplest config fails (cirros with no other disk than the usual ephemeral main one) | 12:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd stick with whatever version openstack is most tested with | 12:57 |
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| SamYaple | good one Sam-I-Am | 12:58 |
| SamYaple | but i agree with him orzel, unless this is just for playing around | 12:58 |
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| orzel | Sam-I-Am: is that documented anywhere ..? I don't remember having seen such version recommendations | 12:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix | 12:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure thats the best place, but its a starting place | 13:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | newest seems to be 1.2.12 | 13:00 |
| orzel | yes, good start point. Thanx | 13:01 |
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| orzel | fedora uses qemu 2.3.0 and generally speaking seems to be quite on the bleeding edge. Yet they stick with an older version of libvirt. | 13:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | fedora is not a server-type distro | 13:03 |
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| orzel | yes, but it's there | 13:03 |
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| SamYaple | orzel: not that much only, its only 2 releases behind. ~1 month | 13:04 |
| SamYaple | s/only/older/ | 13:04 |
| orzel | yeps | 13:04 |
| orzel | i wouldn't believe a 1.2.14 -> 1.2.15 to be so quick (~1 month), so big (see changelog) and so hurtful | 13:05 |
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| SamYaple | my guess is its the dynamic AIO threads. but thats just my guess | 13:05 |
| SamYaple | theyve been a pain for me recently | 13:05 |
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| SamYaple | though they are pretty awesome | 13:06 |
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| orzel | i didn't expect libvirt to have comlicated/powerful code. I thought it was just a common api for different virtualization stuff | 13:11 |
| SamYaple | if it only supported qemu it would be simplier | 13:12 |
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| SamYaple | but alas common options map to very different backends | 13:12 |
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| aryklein | I don't understand the doc (http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/cinder-install-storage-node.html) when it says: "If tenants use LVM on their volumes, the scanning tool detects these volumes and attempts to cache them which can cause a variety of problems with both the underlying operating system and tenant volumes" What does it means with tenant volume? | 14:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 15:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | block devices from cinder are essentially visible to the host | 15:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if a tenant decides they want to use lvm on a cinder volume, nothing prevents lvs on the host from seeing it | 15:01 |
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| stupidnic | Ugh... thats it I am done with RDO | 15:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh? | 15:05 |
| stupidnic | The current RDO packages are behind on Juno missing patches for live migration | 15:06 |
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| stupidnic | I migrated clients off a compute node, upgraded, now I can't migrate back | 15:06 |
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| stupidnic | I tried rolling back to older rpms, nothing works | 15:06 |
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| stupidnic | looks like there is a fundamental change in the code that handles live migration in that it wants /var/lib/nova/instances to be a shared filesystem with the rest of the cluster | 15:08 |
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| aryklein | Sam-I-Am: so you say that the host Operative System can use the cinder-volume-group? | 15:09 |
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| aryklein | Sam-I-Am: for example a tenant use a cinder volume for storing non-ephemeral data and the host operative system can see a new LV | 15:12 |
| aryklein | is it ok? | 15:12 |
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| orzel | aryklein : if the instance uses lvm on the cinder volume, those will be seen/displayed by lvdisplay on the host | 15:13 |
| orzel | (and can't be altered/removed, which is probably a bad idea) | 15:13 |
| aryklein | orzel: ahh ok! | 15:14 |
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| aryklein | orzel: and why it can't be altered from the host? I know it is bad idea but why It can't? | 15:15 |
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| rstrox | Hello, it looks like novaclient is the only openstack client where OS_PASSWORD is the RAX API key. even with OS_AUTH_SYSTEM=rackspace, the other clients (specifically, e.g. heatclient) all need the account password. is this by design, or is there another environment variable that should be set? | 15:59 |
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| mbeierl | Anyone know if Kilo has a working sr-iov implementation or if it is still blueprint? | 16:04 |
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| yalie | I think sr-iov has been implement | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think so too | 16:12 |
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| mbeierl | looking in gerrit, I think so too, but I can't find much as far as documentation goes :) | 16:17 |
| yalie | I know a sriov CI is running | 16:18 |
| yalie | maybe for neutron or nova | 16:18 |
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| orzel | In our use case, the openstack infrastructure is an 'extension' of an existing local/internal network. The current setup (neutron/kilo) has an 'external' network for neutron defined on this local network. It works and we can assign floating ip to servers and routers that are seen from outside. But this is cumbersome. We would like instances to get an ip directly on this 'external' network, without assigning floating ip. | 16:30 |
| orzel | is such a thing possible ? Even better... documented ? | 16:31 |
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| orzel | probably something like this, but this doesn't go far : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Auto-floating-ip | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they're called provider networks | 16:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're using openvswitch, they're described here | 16:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario4a.html | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can mix this config with the tenant network model, but in any case any compute node with vms that need connectivity to the outside world need direct access to that network. | 16:44 |
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| orzel | Sam-I-Am: yes, of course. If really needed (shouldn't happen often, not our typical usecase), we can redirect a port from outside to a vm | 17:02 |
| orzel | ) | 17:02 |
| orzel | or even better if it's a weba-application, just connect it to our nginx reverse-proxy | 17:02 |
| orzel | Sam-I-Am: thanks for the link ! | 17:03 |
| orzel | Sam-I-Am: you gonna say i haven't read your guide thoroughly enough :) | 17:03 |
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| orzel | Sam-I-Am: so it's mostly about creating an 'external' network, but still using dhcp, and using l2 instead of l3 agents on compute node. And you loose metadata in the process .. | 17:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you dont lose metadata | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | you lose the should-be-defunct ec2 metadata | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | prod environments should really consider config-drive | 17:17 |
| orzel | oh, really ? that's cumbersome, isn't it ? | 17:17 |
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| orzel | like creating an iso with all data and mount it in instance | 17:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its looks harder than it is | 17:19 |
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| orzel | mm, ok | 17:20 |
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| orzel | if you say it's the way to go, i'll trust you | 17:20 |
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| Night_Elf | Hi all. I am following the guide as of here: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-verify.html I have gone ok until section '3.' where I am supposed to request an authentication token from Identity version 2.0 API. I get the error message shown here: http://paste.debian.net/177686/ | 17:23 |
| Night_Elf | How can I investigate what I have done wrong? | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | could be a few things | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | first, there's a patch waiting to go in (or is in now) due to changes in the openstack client between pre-release and release packages | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | it has to do with --name keystone vs. --type identity during service creation | 17:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like the install guide contains the changes now | 17:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | (openstack service create) | 17:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you might want to check those things first | 17:26 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I see. Hmmm. So basically, I felt like I am in half unknown waters, now I feel like I am in fully unknown waters. | 17:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | first thing is to make sure you didn't typo something | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | its easy to fo | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | do | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | ^ like this | 17:29 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: To be sure of that I might need to start the entire process from the beginning. I have tried to be careful of typos and I believe I haven't done any, but one can never be fully sure. | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... what did you use for the 'openstack service create' command? | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | also seems like you might not be running release packages yet | 17:32 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Acording ty my history, I used: openstack service create --type identity --description "OpenStack Identity" keystone | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, thats correct | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so the problem must be somewhere else | 17:34 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I have been using the guide to the letter (or so I think). | 17:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dpkg -l | grep keystone says what? | 17:35 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I have installed: keystone 1:2015.1~rc1-0ubuntu1~cloud0, python-keystoneclient 1:1.2.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0, python-keystonemiddleware 1.5.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 17:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | using the ppa or cloud archive repo? | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | those arent the release packages | 17:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they came out... yesterday? | 17:37 |
| orzel | cirros version on http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_obtaining_images.html is outdated, 0.3.4 was released recently | 17:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | orzel: i'm changing that now | 17:38 |
| orzel | :) | 17:38 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I have used these in the apt sources: deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-updates/kilo main | 17:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | try doing an apt-get update and dist-upgrade | 17:40 |
| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: This is what was mentioned in the guide. | 17:40 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: ok, am doing that. | 17:41 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Indeed there's some updates of keystone and some related packages. I got this during "setting up keystone". The following cert files already exist, use --rebuild to remove the existing files before regenerating: | 17:46 |
| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Should I be worried? | 17:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | nah | 17:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | we dont use pki tokens anymore | 17:47 |
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| luflores | Hi, I installed Juno openstack/neutron without a problem in CentOS7. Today I am trying to do the same but neutron is giving me and error. 'ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'agents.load' in 'field list' | 18:02 |
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| luflores | Anyone knows a solution ? | 18:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | luflores: you're trying to install it again? or continuing it | 18:05 |
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| luflores | Sam-I-AM: I wiped the OS, reinstall it and now I am getting this | 18:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you do the db upgrade step? | 18:06 |
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| luflores | su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade juno" neutron | 18:07 |
| luflores | Yes, this is the command I ran | 18:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you change anything in the ml2 config file after you ran that command? | 18:08 |
| luflores | Sam-I-Am: No changes :( | 18:09 |
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| luflores | Sam-I-Am: This is a class I did before, I am using the same manuals. I wonder if any update happen and it broke it | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont think anything much has changed with juno | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you create the symlink to ml2_conf.ini ? | 18:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is when you start neutron-server ? | 18:12 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I did the 'update' and 'dist-upgrade' on all three nodes (controller, network, compute1). I still get the same error message: ERROR: openstack An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. | 18:14 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: This after I suply a password, which for simplicity of testing, ALL the passords ever needed I have made them be "123456". | 18:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | something else must be wrong | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | prior to that step, you had to unset a couple of variables | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you re-set those? | 18:17 |
| luflores | Sam-I-Am: I will try to reset a POD and try, I have 16 of them that are doing the same thing :( | 18:17 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: no, they're unset. I didn't set them permanently before, and I also rebooted the machines after the dist-upgrade, to be on the safe side. And I just checked now, I don't see any OS_TOKEN OS_URL. | 18:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you'd have to set them again | 18:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we need to use those to check things if nothing else is working | 18:19 |
| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: ok I'll try that. But my understanding is that normally they shouldn't be, right ? | 18:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | correct | 18:20 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Nope. Even exporting again OS_TOKEN and OS_URL does not change the situation. Maybe my best option is to start rebuilding the 'controller' node again, from scratch, starting with fresh os install. But this is getting annoying already. :( | 18:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, i can help more, but not for an hour or so | 18:25 |
| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Or maybe all 3 nodes | 18:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know the install guide works because i just tested it | 18:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least with ubuntu 14.04 and the kilo 2015.1 packages | 18:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | (which is what the guide supports) | 18:25 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: hmmm. Well... then I guess I better try the entire thing tomorrow with all 3 nodes. To be honest, I have done the installations not all at the same time on the nodes. Some were done last sunday (when I started), some other things monday and tuesday and so on, till today. | 18:27 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: But maybe I better get one entire day to complete everything in one day to make sure the versions of everything installed are consistent. | 18:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | as long as the controller node is consistent, keystone should work | 18:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | all of that stuff is on one node | 18:28 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: I see. Well it's evening now and my eyes feel the strain of the day. I'd better leave this for tomorrow. I'll just rebuild the controller node from scratch and see how it goes. | 18:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. you know how to find me. | 18:30 |
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| Night_Elf | Sam-I-Am: Thank you for your help so far. :) | 18:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just did a full install, so i know the strain feeling. | 18:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it did work, so thats good | 18:30 |
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| jmlowe | is it expected that nova-scheduler will look at /etc/hosts and if controller is present it will override anything in /etc/nova.conf? | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what? | 20:30 |
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| jmlowe | that's right, grep controller /etc/nova.conf doesn't return anything | 20:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | /etc/nova.conf isnt a valid openstack config file location | 20:32 |
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| jmlowe | put the wrong address for controller in /etc/hosts and nova scheduler throws sql errors | 20:32 |
| jmlowe | I meant /etc/nova/nova.conf | 20:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | use of /etc/hosts (and general name resolution) is a system-level thing | 20:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you use a hostname in your nova config files, the system will look at /etc/hosts or dns to resolve it to an IP address | 20:33 |
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| jmlowe | I know | 20:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you use an IP address in your nova config, it will use IPs | 20:33 |
| jmlowe | I did | 20:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | however, if you started services with hostnames, they registred themselves using that hostname (see nova service-list) | 20:34 |
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| mpa360 | Hi, is there any way to implement multi-host networking with neutron like nova-network ? I want to use each compute node as network node to prevent Single Point of Failure. | 20:37 |
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| andrew____ | does anyone know of a horizon plugin that shows backend storage utilization (used for cinder/glance)? | 20:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mpa360: you can use provider networks or DVR | 20:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | mpa360: there is no network node with provider networks, and it most closely matches conventional nova-net | 20:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | especially if you use the linux bridge agent | 20:39 |
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| ORD3R_ | is there a way to get a list of all the compute host IPs registered in openstack? | 20:39 |
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| jmlowe | must be something about registering, I can't replicate now that I had a successful startup | 20:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ORD3R_: hostnames not sufficient? | 20:42 |
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| ORD3R_ | no, we didnt add them to DNS | 20:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what does nova hypervisor-list show? | 20:42 |
| ORD3R_ | just the hostnames | 20:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dunno. hostnames make more sense in a prod env :/ | 20:44 |
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| ORD3R_ | it's not in production it's a POC | 20:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you reference those hostnames to ips? | 20:44 |
| ORD3R_ | no, I'm going to ahve to go back and put everything in manually... was hoping the cli would help | 20:45 |
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| mpa360 | Sam-I-Am: thank you, would you please give me more information about implementing multi-host networking with neutron by using provider networks or DVR (link, documentation, tutorial, ...) | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | mpa360: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/ | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | mpa360: see scenarios 2, 4a, and 4b | 20:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | mpa360: 4b is your easiest option assuming your infrastructure handles vlans, but provider networks are not self-service (neither was nova-net) | 20:50 |
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| mpa360 | Sam-I-Am: thank you so much | 20:51 |
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| DanyC_ | hi (sorry to ask this type of question here but is the only hope i have that i can get some help/ tips). I'm running IceHouse on Ubuntu 14.04.2 and few days ago the kernel on a compute node crashed (that is the theory) and i just discovered due to being unable to access the instances on that compute node. I've pasted the logs at http://paste.openstack.org/show/224197/ and i think s'thing crashed on libvirtd | 21:12 |
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| DanyC_ | Any idea how i can move those the instances to a different compute node even though nova-compute is dead? I can't restart any service on this node, i can't even ssh into it, only via remote console | 21:13 |
| [Outcast] | is there away to get openstack have both eth1 and eth0 come up on first boot? | 21:15 |
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| DanyC_ | Nobody from Nova team here who can guide me/ give me some directions as to how i can recover the instances on a busted compute node? | 21:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's the evacuate command | 21:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but you might be SOL depending on how bad it is | 21:22 |
| SamYaple | and evacuate wont recover data | 21:22 |
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| DanyC_ | Sam-I-Am: i tried the nova --hard reboot and 1 of the instance is in HARD_REBOOT state for the last 10 hours or so, hence is quite pretty bad as i doubt withouth nova-compute / manage processes responsinding. If i need to go via SQL, where/ what tabes should i change and are there other steps i should go with? | 21:26 |
| DanyC_ | SamYaple: would evacute at least get the VM up wiht the OS in or which type of data you reffering too? | 21:27 |
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| SamYaple | DanyC_: think of evacuate like a database operation to move the VM to a new host. It will start on the new host with all the same ip and configuration, but none of the on disk changes you made | 21:30 |
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| DanyC_ | and the manual says for the evacute command "To preserve user data on server disk, you must configure shared storage on the target host. Also, you must validate that the current VM host is down; otherwise, the evacuation fails with an error." | 21:31 |
| SamYaple | thats all correct DanyC_ | 21:31 |
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| DanyC_ | SamYaple: so i assume the VM needs to be down before i can even run evacuate command - which is not the case cause i can't do anything to those instances | 21:33 |
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| SamYaple | DanyC_: the hypervisor/compute node needs to be down | 21:34 |
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| DanyC_ | SamYaple: i see ( the manual is not that clear imo due to the "VM node", it should have said what you said to be critsal clear - maybe is just me ;) ). | 21:43 |
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| SamYaple | DanyC_: the part you just quotes says "VM host" | 21:45 |
| SamYaple | thats pretty clear | 21:45 |
| loth | It should be noted you probably want to ensure the source hypervisor is downed/offline via other gating means (ipmi/network port) | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | SamYaple: so you'll be happy to know i moved ubuntu back to the rabbitmq in cloud archive. 3.4 is new enough. rdo still uses 3.1... uggggg. | 21:46 |
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| SamYaple | Sam-I-Am: yea 3.4.3 is what kilo uses | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, i find it funny and sad that the rdo repo for kilo actually installs icehouse packages | 21:46 |
| SamYaple | 3.2.4 is in LTS ubuntu 14.04 | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, fail | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | cant wait for all the 'install guide' bugs because of that epic fail | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | another reason i hate packages | 21:47 |
| SamYaple | i also hate packages | 21:47 |
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| SamYaple | _you_ might be happy to know I am working on an all from source docker conatiner for openstack. like _all_ from source container | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | except for the docker part :) | 21:47 |
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| SamYaple | well the host isnt from source, but the binaries running would be | 21:48 |
| SamYaple | i mean technically the host coudl too i guess. this is where my LFS knowledge comes in handy i suppose | 21:48 |
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| SamYaple | i guess the point is a binary host is fine and way more stable, then add a from source container and youve got a reasonable stable setup. | 21:50 |
| SamYaple | thats the idea anyway | 21:50 |
| SamYaple | rollbacks are super easy too | 21:50 |
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| DanyC_ | SamYaple, loth, Sam-I-Am: thx a lot for your suggestions | 21:50 |
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| SamYaple | DanyC_: anytime. let us know if it works for you! | 21:51 |
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| loth | Is there any docs related to what the 'updated' field is used for in 'nova show'? | 22:43 |
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| loth | ie what triggers an update | 22:43 |
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| loth | SamYaple: wouldnt having to compile python bins etc from source take a while every time the container is started? | 22:48 |
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