Thursday, 2015-03-19

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eeceetooTusker: http://pastie.org/1003653700:06
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eeceetooI tore down most of the guest net00:07
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Tuskereeceetoo: you'll need to create br-ex and add in your eth0 into it, and you'll need to create br-tun too, as per installation guide00:09
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arrsimhey, what's the go with the API documentation.  Is it generated by inspecting the API or is it hand crafted..  I want to look at extending it but don't know where to start.02:22
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Tuskerarrsim: have a look at https://github.com/openstack/api-site/02:26
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arrsimThanks Tusker, got that far.  I have generate a local copy of the API doc.  So if I want to add missing API's I just add them into the relevant XML/WSDL files?  I just don't want to be doing stuff that robots could do instead.02:29
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Tuskerarrsim: I'm not an expert, but it looks like they merge in the changes from the wsdl/xml, have a look at some of the gerrit reviews02:38
arrsimTusker: didn't think to look a gerrit, ta02:38
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Tuskeranyone in the channel at the moment has experience with GRE tunnels working, but DHCP DISCOVER doesn't reach the qdhcp namespace ? (I can see all other traffic on the bridge, but not the DHCP DISCOVER) I can see the DHCP DISCOVER on the GRE tcpdump on both compute and network nodes02:56
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laudoin a openstack HA pcs config, does the vncproxy vip should be the same as the horizon public vip?03:13
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eeceetoodoes openstack require that iptables rules be in effect?03:43
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eeceetooi.e. can it function without iptables?03:44
Sam-I-Amit uses iptables for lots of things03:44
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hiveartshi all, can i run openstack on single dedicated machine?03:45
Sam-I-Amsure, but you wont want to do that in production03:46
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hiveartsi understand03:46
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hiveartsso it would be better to use something else?03:47
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eeceetooSam-I-Am: what is the most likely reason I am unable to ping my demo-subnet gateway?03:47
Sam-I-Amfrom where?03:47
eeceetooI followed http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-tenant-network.html to the letter03:48
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eeceetoothe doc says I ought to be able to ping it from anywhere in my LAN03:48
Sam-I-Amso demo-subnet gateway from... where? the instance?03:48
eeceetooie. my lan is 192.168.10.0/24 and my demo-net is 192.168.2.0/2403:49
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eeceetooso the doc says I need to be abl to ping 192.168.2.1 from say, 192.168.10.1203:50
eeceetoothere is no instance03:50
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eeceetooTo verify network connectivity03:50
eeceetooPing the tenant router gateway:03:50
eeceetoo(router is not the right word. gateway IP would be a better phrasing)03:51
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eeceetooneutron subnet-create demo-net --name demo-subnet --gateway 192.168.2.1 192.168.2.0/2403:51
eeceetoois what I set up03:51
eeceetooI can't ping 192.168.2.103:52
Sam-I-Amthe docs do not say this. they say ping the tenant network gateway on the external network ... which is probably the first ip in the allocation range you assigned to ext-subnet03:52
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eeceetoothat's my physical LAN's ip address03:53
eeceetooof course I can ping that03:54
Sam-I-Amwhat did you do for ext-subnet?03:54
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eeceetooneutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.10.80,end=192.168.10.250 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.10.1 192.168.10.0/2403:56
Sam-I-Amcan you ping 10.80?03:57
Sam-I-Amthat is the ip the guide wants you to ping03:57
eeceetoonope03:57
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eeceetoothat doesn't work either03:57
Sam-I-Ammulti-node? physical or vm?03:58
eeceetoomulti-node physical machines03:58
eeceetooall Ubuntu 1403:58
Sam-I-Am>1 network?03:58
eeceetoo?03:58
Sam-I-Ammore than one network?03:58
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eeceetoooh, er. I have just one network. this is my basement network03:59
eeceetoohome net03:59
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Sam-I-Amso br-ex has some ip on 192.168.10 ?03:59
eeceetooon which node, network?04:00
Sam-I-Amyes04:00
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eeceetoosigh04:00
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eeceetooit's not set up at the moment04:00
eeceetootore it down04:01
Sam-I-Amwhat isnt?04:01
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eeceetoothe br-ex interface04:03
eeceetoook, it's up but without any ip04:03
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eeceetooso the doc says, Add a port to the external bridge that connects to the physical external network interface:04:04
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eeceetooso I went, ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth004:04
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eeceetoobecause eth0 is the management interface04:05
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Sam-I-Amand then all the things should break04:05
Sam-I-Ambecause eth0 no longer has an ip04:05
eeceetoowhy?04:05
Sam-I-Ambecause its now a port on br-ex04:06
eeceetooand that _has_ happened . . .04:06
Sam-I-Ambr-ex needs the ip that was on eth004:06
eeceetooso then how do I ssh into the network node?04:06
Sam-I-Amyou dont, until you move that ip04:07
eeceetooand btw, if I go ifconfig br-ex, there is no IP associated with br-ex04:07
Sam-I-Amthe reason the guide uses multiple interfaces is to make this easier04:07
Sam-I-Amyeah, because you have to move it. it doesnt move by itself.04:07
eeceetooI have three physical interfaces on the network node04:07
Sam-I-Ambut only one usable network, right?04:08
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eeceetoohttp://pastie.org/1003678804:08
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eeceetoothat's my network node's interfaces file04:09
eeceetooI could set up a second physical network04:09
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eeceetooi have a third NIC on my physical gateway to the internet04:10
Sam-I-Ameth2 doesnt go anywhere?04:10
Sam-I-Amwhich nic has internet connectivity04:10
eeceetooeth004:10
Sam-I-Amso thats probably the one you need br-ex to have a port on, and then you move its ip.04:11
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eeceetoo192.168.10.0/24 is my LAN's native network04:11
eeceetoothen I move it's IP how?04:11
eeceetooand why is that not in the doc?04:11
Sam-I-Amconfiguration file?04:11
Sam-I-Ambecause the doc does not work with one interface04:11
Sam-I-Amread the architecture04:12
eeceetooand that's the interface I already set it to!04:12
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Sam-I-Amyou need 3 nics on the network node. management and internet access are separate.04:12
eeceetooI HAVE THREE04:12
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Sam-I-Amyes. except you only have one network with internet access.04:12
eeceetoowhy does the tenant network need Internet access?04:13
Sam-I-Amyou could move your management to an isolated network, but then how'd you ssh into the nodes?04:13
Sam-I-Amit doesnt. but most people want their vms to see the internet.04:13
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eeceetooand I do too, actually but I imagined that openstack would allow that04:14
eeceetooand I do too, actually but I imagined that openstack would provide that04:14
Sam-I-Amit does04:14
Sam-I-Amit does some snat/routing magic between your tenant network and whatever network has internet access04:15
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appprod0Sam-I-Am: you ever seen "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" with openstack-ansible/icehouse when creating vm's? new build, this used to work fine but the last 3-4 builds all have resulted in that vif error04:36
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appprod0neutron-linuxbridge-agent won't start on the compute node, it's running into this traceback over and over again. http://paste.openstack.org/show/193401/04:56
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appprod0compute node has br-vlan and br-vxlan, both can ping the same interfaces/network from the infra node. compute node doesn't have an "eth12" interface, I think that's what it's erroring on? I don't understand why though05:01
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appprod0or rather why it's looking for eth12 and why it didn't create it like it does for the neutron_agents_container05:02
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Tuskerquick question... if the network configuration is created in say "neutron" keystone tenant, will that create a separate ovs vlan compared to the "admin" tenant ?05:07
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TuskerOK, that is my issue... networks created in one tenant, but VM starting in the other tenant05:15
Tusker:|05:15
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hiveartshow much RAM is needed to run openstack on single machine?05:19
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appprod0done it with 4GB05:23
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hiveartsappprod0: tnx, what is the simplest way to install it on ubuntu05:27
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atmarkWhat's the difference between nova backup and nova image-create ?07:53
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SamYaplebackup is a backup, while image-create is a snapshot07:56
SamYapleatmark: here you go "Use nova image-create to create a snapshot, and nova backup to backup an instance. Both commands result in a snapshot creation, though the backuping operation provides a mechanism for the automatic rotation of the snapshots."07:56
SamYaplehttp://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/cli_manage_images.html07:56
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atmarkDo they both use qemu snapshot?07:56
SamYapleI am almost positive they use the exact same methods07:57
SamYaplethe only difference being the "automatic rotation of the snapshot" for the backups07:57
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hiveartshave anybody played with open nebula?08:04
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hiveartsi want to ask can i use openstack image to run on nebula08:04
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snolahcHi all, i'd like to build a directory using openldap and OS Keystone for user mgmt. It's hard to find doc about keystone as it seems to be now incorporated in OS Shared Services. Is it still a working project ?08:30
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DominiqueHi guys, I just added a port to the compute's iptables and restarted iptables as per the manual.. however now the openvswitch rules are missing from the firewall09:07
DominiqueHow can these be recreated??09:07
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__dedi__hi guys09:14
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__dedi__I am looking for help about ceph rbd backend for glance09:15
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SamYaplesure __dedi__, whats your question?09:27
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SamYapleDominique: you can restart the neutron plugin-agent09:28
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SamYapleDominique: which part in the manual are you talking about? I am unaware of any part that requires restarting openvswitch09:28
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DominiqueSamYaple: It doesn't say to restart openvswitch, I only restarted iptables09:29
Dominiquehttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/default_ports.html09:29
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DominiqueSamYaple: Where am I suppose to find this plugin-agent? I don't see such an agent on the compute..09:30
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DominiqueSamYaple: I also suppose the manual is wrong and you should really create the firewall rules through CLI and initiate an iptables save, rather than restarting iptables09:32
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SamYapleDominique: no that is ok, it is just not a required thing to do09:39
SamYaplethats an admin guide, its not an operation guide09:39
SamYapleyou dont need to restart openvswitch09:39
SamYaplejust the plugin agent09:40
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__dedi__SamYaple, I've followed the ceph documentation at http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ and cinder works well. But glance drop an error : glance.api.v1.upload_utils ObjectNotFound: error calling connect. it looks like a ceph authentication problem.09:43
__dedi__I've double checked the ceph settings and it looks good09:43
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__dedi__SamYaple, http://pastie.org/1003773809:45
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DominiqueSamYaple: I don't have a plugin agent though09:46
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DominiqueSamYaple: you're not talking about neutron-openvswitch-agent right?09:48
__dedi__SamYaple, http://pastie.org/1003774409:48
njk84sghi guys, I have a simple issue here.. I am using centos 7 for my test env and installed mongodb for the telemetry module. however when I started mongod it started failing.. conf file looks ok and I followed the documentation.. what goes wrong?09:48
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BilliasAll, I am planing to have a dual DC installation of my Openstack09:49
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BilliasI do have an dual 10GB fiber and sharing VLANs of my tunneling network between two DCs09:50
Billiasthe question is, can I have multiple networknodes (maybe with multiple region settings)09:50
Billiasin these DCs?09:50
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DominiqueSamYaple: got it worked out, thanks ;)09:53
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Qlawyguys anyone is using mongodb as db backend?09:58
QlawyI have mongo 3.0 and ceilometer fails to connect09:58
QlawyI found in logs that it trys to use MONGODB-CR method09:58
QlawyFailed to authenticate ceilometer@ceilometer with mechanism MONGODB-CR: AuthenticationFailed MONGODB-CR credentials missing in the user document09:58
Qlawyhowever in mongo 3.0 default is SCRAM-SHA-1 and MONGODB-CR credentials are not created09:59
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SamYaple__dedi__: that looks good as far as configuration. the docs have changed a few times so make sure your pools and keyrings were created correctly for glance10:26
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__dedi__I did it as doc said: http://pastie.org/10037882, I compare keyring with the output of the ceph auth list and it is same.10:28
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__dedi__SamYaple, rbd cannot authenticate glance user :10:31
__dedi__rbd --id glance ls images10:31
__dedi__2015-03-19 11:30:36.779579 7fc626644880 -1 monclient(hunting): ERROR: missing keyring, cannot use cephx for authentication10:31
__dedi__2015-03-19 11:30:36.779587 7fc626644880  0 librados: client.glance initialization error (2) No such file or directory10:31
__dedi__rbd: couldn't connect to the cluster!10:31
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SamYaple__dedi__: make sure your keyring is named appropriatly in /etc/ceph/10:31
SamYaplethats been the changes10:32
SamYaplechanging names from client.glance to glient.image and so forth10:32
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__dedi__SamYaple, I thin it is OK (http://pastie.org/10037902) it is really weird..10:33
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__dedi__SamYaple, s/thin/think/10:33
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SamYapleyea i go through this once in a while. It always comes down to naming10:35
__dedi__SamYaple, I am going to delete all the glance references in ceph and re-create then again.10:37
SamYaplethats what I normally do __dedi__10:37
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snolahcHi all, i'd like to build a directory using openldap and OS Keystone for user mgmt. It's hard to find doc about keystone as it seems to be now incorporated in OS Shared Services. Is it still a working project ?10:42
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__dedi__SamYaple, Thank you !11:10
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SamYaple__dedi__: did you get it working?11:11
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__dedi__SamYaple, not yet.. I have to complete other tasks11:13
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setkehHey guys i have a brand new openstack juno installed and im trying to setup an external network but when i run "net-create ext-net --router:external True --provider:physical_network external --provider:network_type flat" in the neutron commandline i get an error "Bad Request (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-8022d10d-fac5-42b1-af74-abd84cc6995c)" im followng11:19
setkehhttp://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-external-network.html to start the setup for external net11:19
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setkehany idea's ??11:37
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stockpiraterunned the export from the machine you are doing the commands on?11:40
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setkehyeah i did . keystonerc_admin11:41
setkehthere was no admin-openrc.sh11:41
setkehthis is an rdo install if that helps any11:41
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stockpiratehow large is your x-auth token?11:45
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setkehi dont have one in that file where else could it be ??11:47
stockpiratechecked the logs?11:47
stockpiratefor error or more detailed descriptions?11:47
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setkehyeah i dont see much more then normal status code 200 and 404's for unrelated things11:49
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setkehoh i think i found it actually11:50
stockpirateshare it :)11:50
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setkeh2015-03-19 22:23:40.896 4582 INFO keystonemiddleware.auth_token [-] Invalid user token - rejecting request11:50
setkehthere is about 4 lines that is the last one11:51
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stockpirateyes11:51
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stockpirateyou have it there11:51
setkehso neutron does not like the keystonerc_admin file XD11:52
setkehi can interact with glance and nova with it no worries11:52
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stockpirate:)11:53
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stockpiratealways generally error like missing user, wrong exported user, or to large token.11:54
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setkehfrom what i read the token should be their11:56
setkeherr there even11:56
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setkehi also dont have any issues with things like net-list11:57
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__dedi__SamYaple, It is same. re-created everything, but no works, while cinder works as expected.11:59
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__dedi__SamYaple, I run out of ideas. never mind I use filesystem storage12:01
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baribalHi All. Could you please tell if it is possible to re-use deallocated/released floating ips from the project? When allocating the new fip to the project it seems it uses "ipavailabilityranges" table in "ovs_neutron" DB and the "first_ip" of the "allocation_pool_id" record to choose the next fip and increase the "first_ip" by 1. When we release/deallocate the fip from the project it does not change this table so every time you12:21
baribaldeallocate/release fips we can't re-use them in different or the same project. The only possibility is not manually update the record in this table to set first_ip  to the fip which has just been deallocated/released from the project which is total mess. Neutron manages private network ips just fine and doesn't have such an issue. Could you please advise? We are using the Icehouse release from RDO repository.12:21
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setkehstockpirate: ok i have traced down the status 400 to "--provider:physical_network external" the command work untill that point12:24
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setkehbut im not completely sure why thats causing the error12:25
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setkeh"2015-03-19 23:23:50.885 4582 INFO neutron.api.v2.resource [req-d5b14ff8-b117-47d1-83e1-6c4691b30132 None] create failed (client error): Invalid input for operation: network_type required." is the corresponding log entry12:27
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setkehok narrowed it down further12:28
setkeh"2015-03-19 23:28:09.298 4584 INFO neutron.api.v2.resource [req-95705438-91ef-4d70-aeb3-f822d6dc0c2a None] create failed (client error): Invalid input for operation: network_type value 'flat' not supported.12:28
Sam-I-Amsounds like a config error in ml2_conf.ini12:29
Sam-I-Am'flat' should be an enabled network type12:29
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setkehill look for the file :D12:29
Sam-I-Amhopefully you've edited it before12:30
setkehi have not XD12:30
Sam-I-Amhow did you install this?12:30
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setkehrdo12:31
Sam-I-Ampackstack?12:31
setkehyessir12:32
Sam-I-Amwhat are you following for network config?12:32
setkehhttp://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-external-network.html12:32
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Sam-I-Amunless you modified packstack, the upstream install docs wont work with it12:33
Sam-I-Amthey're two different things12:33
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setkehok better place to look ??12:34
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Sam-I-Amyou can follow whatever instructions packstack has for creating networks, or follow the upstream install guide to do an install12:36
setkehpackstack references the upstream docs mostly12:37
Sam-I-Amis there a place in its config file you can set network types and bridge mappings?12:37
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setkehim looking for rdo specific way of doing it :)12:42
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Sam-I-Amits a variable in a config file somewhere12:42
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setkehyeah i see it i can specify it in the answere file then orce it to read said answerefile12:45
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nttHi, i have a problem with floating ips (havana release). Tenant A release floating ip 1.2.3.4, but if TenantIP try to allocate a floating ip, 1.2.3.4 is not available. Is there some kind of "timeout" for floating ip?13:10
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ashishjainhello13:16
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ashishjainHello13:17
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ashishjainCan some one tell me when I run the command "glance-manage db version" why there is so much of stack trace printed?13:18
ashishjainSomehow it does not give any version13:18
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vkmcashishjain, could you paste the output in http://paste.openstack.org?13:18
ashishjaininstead it prints great amount of debug log13:18
ashishjainsure13:18
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baribalntt: the same issue for me13:22
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ashishjainvkmc: paste.openstack.org/show/19356213:24
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ashishjainvkmc: actually I look forward to work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/141472513:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1414725 in Glance "glance-manage does not reflect latest Juno / Kilo commands" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ashish (ashish-jain14)13:27
ashishjainvkmc: this is based on glance-manage api13:27
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vkmcashishjain, that's cool13:28
vkmcI checked out the log... mmh honestly I'm not sure what's going on there13:28
vkmcmaybe that is a bug?13:28
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ashishjainvkmc: actually all the commands seems to having similar behavior13:29
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vkmcashishjain, how did you deploy the stack?13:29
ashishjaindevstack13:30
vkmcashishjain, on Ubuntu 14.04?13:30
ashishjainya13:30
vkmclet me try to issue that command in my deployment13:30
ashishjainactually I dont mean that commands are not working13:30
ashishjainbut thing is when I execute the command glance-manage db_version_control13:30
ashishjainit says database already controlled error13:31
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ashishjainI think if you do not specify an version probably it takes the latest one13:31
ashishjainbut why to report this as an error13:31
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baribalntt: try to delete FIP pool range record from the ipavailabilityranges table13:37
baribaland then allocate FIP13:37
baribalit should the recalculate the full FIP range13:38
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ashishjainvkmc: Just disconnecting for  a moment will reconnect in a minute13:41
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ashishjainvkmc: hi, I am bck. Do you see similart behavior?13:45
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vkmcashishjain, running stack.sh, I'll let you know13:46
nttbaribal: FIP = first ip ?13:47
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larsksntt: FIP = "floating ip"13:47
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ashishjainalrighty13:48
nttlarsks : i know, but in the table there are no fields named "floating ip"13:48
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nttbaribal: i have to delete the entire record? (i have 3 fields: allocation_pool_id, first_ip, last_ip)13:52
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nttlarsks, baribal: actually i have x.y.z.60 x.y.z.254 in the record (first_ip and last_ip fields). If i delete this record what happens? (I have other vms with other floating ips)13:55
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baribalntt: you should delete the whole record, in this case when you try to assign the new fip afterwards it will recalculate the whole range - first_ip should different and multiple new records will be created14:00
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baribalntt: the assigned fips will be excluded in records14:01
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vkmcashishjain, I see the same14:10
vkmcashishjain, what other command are you issuing?14:10
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ashishjainvkmc: thanks for confirmation14:10
ashishjainglance-manage db_version_control14:10
vkmcashishjain, here are some useful docs https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/doc/source/man/glancemanage.rst14:10
vkmcashishjain, it seems to be right14:10
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nttbaribal: waiting your answer i have changed the value of the "first_ip" field to x.y.z.30, allocated a new floating ip (.30) and associated to the vm. All worked well. Next, i tried to allocate another floating ip and it gives me an error (because .31 was already allocated and associated to a vm). So i have changed the field "first_ip" to .60 (initial condition)14:11
ashishjainvkmc, didnt get you14:11
ashishjainare the commands working fine14:11
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vkmcashishjain, the output seems to be correct, its not a bug14:11
ashishjainis it what is expected?14:11
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nttSo, now i can delete the whole record and other records will be recreated. right?14:12
ashishjainbut glance-mange db version14:12
ashishjainshould ideally give the current version of db14:12
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ashishjaininstead it prints a stack similar to migrate14:12
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ashishjainwhat does that output mean14:12
vkmcashishjain, nope, according to the docs, db_version prints the current migration level of a glance database14:12
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ashishjainokay14:13
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ashishjainwhat about the command glance-manage db_version_control14:14
vkmcashishjain, read the docs :)14:14
ashishjainI read it14:14
ashishjainIt says keep the DB under migration control14:14
ashishjainwhat do I understand out of it14:14
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ashishjainDoes it mean you cannot migrate to any level once you run this command?14:14
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ashishjainOne more thing what are the different #version which I can use?14:15
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ashishjainI think you can use 014:15
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ashishjainWhat about other inputs.14:16
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ashishjainI can definitely look into the code and try to understand also14:16
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ashishjainit uses oslo libs looks like14:16
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vkmcashishjain, I'd avise you to ask in ask.openstack.org or join the glance IRC channel, you will probably get some answers there14:17
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ashishjainyeah I am already there in glance :)14:18
ashishjainalright thanks vkmc for your help14:18
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ashishjaintalk to you later14:18
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vkmcashishjain, I didn't help much! but well, hopefully you can find more answers soon14:19
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vkmcashishjain, ttyl!14:19
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baribalntt: you should delete the whole record instead of just updating the first_ip field. After that you should allocate the new FIP to the project and it should trigger the range recalculation14:27
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baribalntt: recalculation will be triggered automatically if you consume all the FIPs (first_ip=last_ip record, you will assign this last ip, in this case the whole record for this allocation pool will be deleted and on the next fip allocation it will trigger recalculation)14:30
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MilesDenverI have a misbehaving VM on my DHCP Flat network, but I don't know what one it is…. I can see that it is using VNET4.15:29
MilesDenverHow can I trace this back to the instance?15:29
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MilesDenverFound my own answer "You can find out what vnet NIC is being used by looking at the/etc/libvirt/qemu/instance-xxxxxxxx.xml file."15:31
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MilesDenverhmmmm…. except instance-????????.xml doesn't appear to contain the characters vnet, nor does it the mac address in that file show up when doing `ip a`15:41
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* lukhas is looking for small scale deployment examples15:55
lukhassay, 10 servers15:55
lukhasis OpenStack worth it?, can it scale later?, etc.15:55
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rozielukhas: 10 virtual servers or physical? what do you want to achieve?15:57
lukhas10 physical15:57
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rozieIMO there's no point in OS for 10 virtual servers15:57
lukhaswe need to start small for various reasons, including money :)15:57
lukhasalso, we'd like Ceph as well, so that's 3 to 5 more servers just for the storage, hence the small scale deployment at first15:58
rozieand it should scale (there are deployments) for far more than 10 servers15:58
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lukhashopefully we'll have fare more servers at some point, but not right now15:58
MilesDenverI'm currently running about 12 physical15:58
roziebut I'm not so sure if neutron model will scale well for network15:58
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lukhasMilesDenver: how many sysadmins does it require to set up and maintain on a day to day basis?15:59
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rozielukhas: define "it" ;-)15:59
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lukhasrozie: a 12-server large OS deployment :)16:00
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MilesDenverIt's just me… and I don't really do that many hours a week on OpenStack.  Most of my time is with Puppet and working with the 600 vms that are running there.16:00
lukhasok16:00
lukhasthat's a good sign16:00
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roziewell, without beeing on call? I guess 0.1 is enough ;)16:00
lukhashehe16:00
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MilesDenverWe have two labs… one is 100% ephemeral images that live under half an hour each…  test run and they die.16:00
roziebut admins are integer, so 116:00
rozie(if you don't require backup/hot spare/HA for admins ;))16:01
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MilesDenverThat little lab has done 85K of VMs over the past two years…. The second lab is for Dev and QA.  They spin up what they want for a longer period.16:01
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lukhasdifferent OS deployments or the same one?16:02
MilesDenverSame OS…. I used Ubuntu…. and I'm currently stuck on Grizzly.  But it's been stable, very stable.16:02
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lukhasthat's on your own hardware, I presume16:02
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lukhassorry I'm flooding you with questions, but you're the only one I found with similar scale :)16:03
lukhason Google everybody's talking about deploying 100 000 compute nodes16:03
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MilesDenverRight…. we have a bunch of compute nodes like Dell 710s with 144GB or RAM… We get a density of about 80 instances per host16:03
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lukhasthat's quite dense16:04
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lukhasbut then again, 144 GB RAM...16:04
MilesDenverright… my limiting facts seems to be IOPs…. have to maximize this.16:05
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lukhasyeah that doesn't scale that well yet16:10
lukhaseven with several controllers16:10
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lukhasthanks for your answers :)16:11
MilesDenverNo problem…. you caught me actually being an OpenStack Admin today.16:12
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lukhashehe16:12
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hiveartsanybody played with opennebula? i want to run coreos with opennebula16:15
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eeceetoolil yimmy norton?16:16
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rp1369Hi, i have set up openstack juno ubuntu 14.04 all nodes on virtual machines...means 6 vm nodes,(controller, compute, network, block and 2 object vm nodes)...all works fine... now i want to add another vm node of compute... what i did i cloned the first vm compute node, changed the hostname and network interfaces for compute2, and changed nova.conf of the second compute node, all seems fine but in dashboard, when i want to lunch an instance, i17:30
rp1369only see the first compute node, and i even doesnt work, but before compute2 it was fine and instance could be lunched. here are my nova confs and information of services and everything...http://paste.openstack.org/show/193630/...i followed  "http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_nova.html17:30
rp1369sorry the link of confs is this > http://paste.openstack.org/show/193630/17:31
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laney_you might want to try command nova agent-list17:32
rp1369laney_ thanks for the reply, its empty17:32
rp1369nothing is in there17:32
rp1369laney_ just borders and headers of table17:32
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laney_o wait nevermind17:34
laney_wrong command17:34
rp1369:)17:34
rp1369i thinks its something with nova zone, which i only have one zone, but there should be 217:34
rp1369i dont know how to change it17:34
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laney_i think it has to be changed in keystone17:36
laney_and in your cfg files17:37
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laney_i think are have to use endpoint-delete and then endpoint-delete with the correct region17:38
laney_zone17:38
laney_hm maybe not17:39
laney_don't listen to me lol im a noob17:39
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rp1369laney_ :)) thanks for replies anyway17:39
rp1369laney_ and yeah maybe i should follow endpoints as well as u said17:39
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BilliasA good question… can I allow an Tenant to work only on one region?17:42
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electrocucaracharp1369: what is the output if you run nova-manage host list?17:44
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, hi, ty 4 replyu ... http://paste.openstack.org/show/193642/17:45
rp13692 same zonez17:45
rp1369zones*17:45
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, it gives me the error of "no valid host was found" when i lunch an instance.17:50
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electrocucarachasometimes that error is refering that the host(s) doesn't have enough resources17:51
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electrocucarachain order to know the available resources you can run :  nova host-describe compute217:58
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JohnTwoif you have 3 compute nodes and one of them is down (shows XXX), shouldnt it try to choose one of the others? I am having the same error "no valid host", but I have two compute nodes up and I know they have enough resources18:02
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, i just checked, deleted all instances and repeated,resources are fine, but error is saying its not18:03
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, http://paste.openstack.org/show/193645/18:06
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electrocucarachawell, I'm not sure if that's the issue but my guess is the amount of memory that you have18:10
electrocucarachathe default overcommit for cpu is 1:1618:10
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electrocucarachaas far as I know in  you case means that you have 16 vCPUs or 32 if you have multithreading enabled18:11
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electrocucarachabut the overcommit for memory is 1:1.518:11
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, yeah, but it was fine before and i could lunch maximum 1 instance, even i changed it and shut down the compute2 it still remain http://paste.openstack.org/show/193646/18:17
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rp1369ramins18:17
rp1369<electrocucaracha>, remains*18:17
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, gave it 1 more vcpu and 1G of ram live, and lunching with tiny flavor18:18
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electrocucaracharp1369: let's see if that helps18:18
rp1369<electrocucaracha>, it didnt :D same results18:18
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* electrocucaracha hmmm18:19
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rp1369<electrocucaracha> bad thing nothing in cat /var/log/nova/*.log of controller node18:19
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rp1369just the error of no valid host was found18:19
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, cinder and 2 swifts are down, should they be running?18:21
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rp1369<electrocucaracha> nvm still the same18:22
electrocucarachaall depends, if glance is storing their images in swift or if you're booting from volume18:22
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>, started all, but no luck, bet its the compute2 installation, messed with compute1 and every thing18:24
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exarkunCan anyone tell me what "roll detaching" is in Cinder?18:25
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electrocucaracharp1369: more likely cloning that vm wasn't a good idea18:26
exarkunpython-cinderclient has methods for invoking this functionality but it doesn't actually explain what the functionality is and I can't find any references to it outside of python-cinderclient.18:26
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rp1369<electrocucaracha>,  yeah maybe, but i have done it before every thing seemed fine, anyways got headache, as u said, gonna install a new vm (non-clone) see whats the result18:28
rp1369<electrocucaracha> thanks alot for ur cooperation :-)18:28
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electrocucaracharp1369: thanks to share it, hopefully you can find the issue soon.18:28
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rp1369electrocucaracha, my pleasure, i hope so, Cya ;)18:29
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med_weird email from summit presentations.18:32
med_ttx ^18:32
med_jbryce, ^18:32
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JohnTwoI setup a 3 node OS using the instructions on the main page. Everything worked fine out of the box (weird, I know). I then decided to expand it and add two more compute nodes, a block node and an object node (also foloowing instructions, same page). Following the guide and using the Verify operation steps, everything looked good. However, no instance will launch "no valid host" and cannot18:36
JohnTwodelete instances "Status: error, State: deleting".18:36
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mmidgettCan someone help network examples for a 10 compute setup, horizion,neutron and what ever else will run in my current xenserver cluster18:37
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mmidgettI'm just not sure how I should lay it out.18:38
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JohnTwonova service-list shows consoleauth, scheduler, cert, conductor and the 3 compute nodes, with compute1 being disabled.18:40
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jbrycemed_: can you send to jonathan@openstack.org ?18:57
med_jbryce, will do18:58
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jbrycethanks18:58
med_from gmail18:58
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jbrycemed_: got it, thanks. there should be a follow up (correct this time) going out19:02
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med_yep, I think @openstack said the same on twitter. thanks jbryce.19:03
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JohnTwoSo is this the right channel to ask openstack questions, or is this a developer channel or something?19:05
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coredumpGuys, using gluster as a backend for nova/cinder/glance, I know that nova/instances must be shared to all hypervisors, but what about cinder and glance? Do they need to be on the hypervisors too or only where cinder and glance daemons are running (aka controller)19:07
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med_JohnTwo, Just ask. Liike any IRC channel, asking questions will get a better response than asking a metaquestion.19:08
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med_and read the /topic19:08
med_"support channel"19:08
JohnTwoalready asked a question a while back. no response. just making sure i was in right place. thanks19:09
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med_JohnTwo, see that in scrollback.19:10
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med_If nova-compute is disabled, you will never get an instance up19:10
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med_look at the compute node and see if the nova-compute service is running19:10
med_are you just using qemu-kvm?19:10
med_if so, make sure libvirt-bin and other services are running19:10
med_look at hte /var/log/nova/*log for more details.19:11
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JohnTwo3 compute nodes. only 1 is disabled. just using qemu-kvm. only thing scheduler log showed was that compute1 has not been available in a while19:14
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JohnTwostill learning this, so learning where logs are and such19:14
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JohnTwoi just find it weird that instances wont even delete. i can understand the launching issue, if resources or virtualization or whatever is not right... but deleting should be fairly straightforward19:17
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JohnTwoSo I am guessing I have to manually edit the database and remove thos instances?19:26
med_did you try nova force-delete19:27
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JohnTwodid not know of force-delete. will try it, thanks19:28
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JohnTwonova delete says it was accepted and nova list shows deleting, but after a while nova list shows error. will try force19:29
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JohnTwosame issue with force-delete. state shows deleting for a bit, then just goes back to blank. status still shows error19:32
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lothIs arp_responder only for OVS agent? not for LinuxBridge?19:38
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lothIs there a LB equivilent or is arp traffic just flooded on LB vxlan networks?19:42
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med_jbryce, oops received.19:50
med_:-)19:50
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Sam-I-Amloth: l2pop works with linuxbridge19:51
Sam-I-Amloth: arp responder is just specific magic for ovs19:51
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lothSam-I-Am: Is there any differences in how arp traffic works with ovs vs linuxbridge?19:55
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lothie any major performance differences in the broadcast traffic?19:58
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kernalhey, i'm trying to set up a cluster and im stuck with creating the network20:05
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kernalor not20:05
kernalactually i do20:06
kernalso i have a /28 ip block20:06
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kernalthat starts on .192 and ends on .207, so I'm trying to add that subnet to neutron20:07
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kernalalright my server died because of neutron20:09
kernalit's statically pointed to the server, so I type "neutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=x.x.x.193,end=x.x.x.206 --disable-dhcp --gateway x.x.x.192 x.x.x.192/28"20:09
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kernalbut i get a message that the gateway is not valid on subnet20:10
kernalso what's the restriction of the gateway's addrses? am i looking at something incorrect?20:10
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lothgateway is normally +1 on first ip, so .19320:15
kernalloth, danke20:15
lothand your usable would be .194+20:16
lothhttp://cidrbreakdown.com/20:16
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eeceetooloth, hip-hop site?20:17
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lothSure20:19
eeceetoomy jokes are crap20:20
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kernalhow should /etc/network/interfaces look on the network node?20:23
kernaliface eth0 inet manual ?20:23
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Sam-I-Amkernal: gateway cannot be a network or bcast address20:26
kernalSam-I-Am, yeah i already realized it20:27
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kernalnow im trying to set up the networking properly20:27
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kernalpreviously my eth0 was using dhcp from the isp20:27
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kernal(eth0 is the external connection in my case)20:27
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kernali changed it to manual20:28
kernalbut it doesn't work too20:28
kernalso I'm not sure how it should be set up20:28
thumpba_how can i create an vm larger than 2TB20:28
kernalso I'm not sure how it should be set up20:30
kernalsry wrong window to arrow+enter :p20:30
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mnovacyucburgess: Hi cburgess, watched your OpenStack talk regarding optimizing OpenStack with KVM/QEMU, thanks for the helpful info.20:30
cburgessmnovacyu: You are welcome.20:30
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mnovacyucburgess: I'm trying to manually prep a cloud image for the first time (Centos 7.0), and I'm running into some road blocks.  Can you provide some general guidance on the procedure I should follow?20:34
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mnovacyucburgess: I'm using qemu-img to create the qcow2 file, then virt-install --virt-type qcow2 to create the VM.  Is that the right procedure?20:35
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cburgessmnovacyu: I gave that talk in Portland 2 years ago. Most of what I said is probably completely outdated now. I haven't looked into setting up images in a few years so I don't know really know how to begin anymore.20:35
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yacoutahi who was able to configure Trove with roc_backend = rabbit? i m receiving error no module name rabbit in the trove logs files20:37
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mnovacyucburgess: I see, thanks for pointing that out.  Either way, the info was still helpful as a reference point20:38
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kernalokay20:51
kernali have a gateway address for eth020:51
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kernalthere's a single ip routed to eth0 + a /28 ip block20:52
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eeceetookernel, you working on getting your ext-net set up?20:52
_nickmnovacyu: https://docs.datacentred.io/compute-on-demand/building-an-openstack-compatible-centos-6-image20:52
kernalhow can I make sure that neutron can access that /28 block, while eth0 works20:53
_nickthat's for centos 6 but it's about as relevant for 720:53
kernaleeceetoo, yes20:53
eeceetoome too20:53
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kernalmy issue is that packets are routed into the server20:53
_nickalthough there's 'proper' cloud images available for 7 from upstream20:53
kernalbut the server can't reach the internet20:53
eeceetooI set up my ext-net like so:20:54
eeceetooneutron subnet-create ext-net --name ext-subnet --allocation-pool start=192.168.10.80,end=192.168.10.250 --disable-dhcp --gateway 192.168.10.1 192.168.10.0/2420:54
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eeceetoobut I can't ping 192.168.10.8020:54
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mnovacyu_nick: Thanks!  I'll give that a try20:58
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macgyverfeverHello everyone22:15
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macgyverfeverUm, anyone have any advice for a starting Software developer with no C.S. degree but for one with a biochemistry/chemistry double major?22:16
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fraterlaetusHi22:38
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fraterlaetusI'm looking for a quicker way to deploy Openstack to an MAAS environment. I have used the openstackgeek and the landscape-autopilot installers with varying degrees of success. Ideally, I'd like to use an orchistration tool like Ansible to deploy the whole enchillada, but from my reading, it seems like these only deploy nova compute nodes. Does anyone here know a better way, preferably with a tutorial/howto?22:39
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fraterlaetus? Is this the wrong channel to ask this question?22:55
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eeceetoofraterlaetus: just the wrong time, probably.22:55
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fraterlaetuseeceetoo thank you for the reply. Is there a more active time in general to pop in?22:57
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eeceetooNot that I know of.22:58
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fraterlaetusheh ok. Fair enough. Not the answer I was hoping for, but an honest one will do. :)22:58
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Sam-I-Amfraterlaetus: just augment os-ansible-deployment22:59
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fraterlaetusSam-I-Am: I'm looking at that and ansible-provision-openstack. Is os-ansible-deployment the better of the two?23:00
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Sam-I-Ami work on the latter one, dont know about the former23:03
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sinhis there anything special i need to use the openvswitch kernel module in 14.04 to set up vlans?23:29
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Sam-I-Amsinh: no23:33
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