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| sebastian_ | hi some one can help me with the novarc? I have trubles to use nova commands to stop and start an instance | 00:21 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: Do you know of any good way to find out an instance's ip address for static ip assignments before its created? | 01:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: i think you only find out when its created | 01:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | although you might be able to specify one | 01:07 |
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| loth | Shouldnt you be able to create a neutron port, then when the instance is created map that to the port? | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | you might be able to | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know off the top of my head | 01:08 |
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| jasonsb | Sam-I-Am: just wanted to thank you for your help today | 01:16 |
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| jasonsb | Sam-I-Am: I am just now sitting down to do some experiments | 01:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jasonsb: no problem | 01:18 |
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| jasonsb | please pass on any documents | 01:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | for what? | 01:19 |
| jasonsb | multi provider | 01:19 |
| jasonsb | in juno | 01:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | with dvr? | 01:20 |
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| jasonsb | either way | 01:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably easier to try it without first | 01:20 |
| nosleep77 | from outside the instance, can I tell how much cpu/ram/disk an instance is using? something like 3 GB mem used of 4 GB. note: i am not looking for metering information. I have seen this page already http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/launch-instance-neutron.html | 01:20 |
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| jasonsb | exactly | 01:20 |
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| jasonsb | i am curious what other people have done | 01:21 |
| jasonsb | (if you happen to have) | 01:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you want one l3 agent to handle multiple external networks | 01:21 |
| nosleep77 | I meant this one http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/instance_usage_statistics.html | 01:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nosleep77: so ... statistics from the OS in that VM? | 01:22 |
| nosleep77 | Sam-I-Am: yes | 01:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | youd monitor the OS the same way you do as if it was on hardware | 01:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova doesnt know what your OS is doing | 01:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | all it knows is the amount of resources allocated to it | 01:23 |
| nosleep77 | Sam-I-Am: reason I am asking which leads me to anther question is whether openstack does bubble memory type stuff like vcenter | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | its probably dependent on the hypervisor... kvm. | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | or whatever you're using | 01:24 |
| nosleep77 | kvm it is | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'd have to research kvm a bit | 01:25 |
| nosleep77 | ok thanks | 01:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | jasonsb: are these vlan segmented external networks? | 01:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight, gonna disappear for the evening. been a long day. | 01:47 |
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| jasonsb | Sam-I-Am: hi | 01:52 |
| jasonsb | Sam-I-Am: provider nets are physical networks | 01:52 |
| jasonsb | no vlan | 01:52 |
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| jasonsb | (hopefully easy) | 01:53 |
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| vguard | Hello all | 04:57 |
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| vguard | I am new to openstack and have installed single server install using the following guide. http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html#logging-into-horizon-openstack-dashboard | 04:57 |
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| vguard | I am stuck with network routing, my lxcbr0 network is 10.0.3.1 while all the | 04:59 |
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| rozie | hi. is http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_preface.html meant to be secure by default? | 09:43 |
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| ganjawizard | short question. i am not really familiar with api's, but what can i do between amazon ec2 aws, and openstack? can i move instances, or something like that? | 11:09 |
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| giorgis | hello people! | 11:14 |
| giorgis | is there a way to found on which node an instance that has been terminated was launched in the beginning? | 11:14 |
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| giorgis | I know I can use hypervisor-servers for the running instances but what about an instance that has been terminated already? Can I check it from the DataBase or anywhere else? | 11:15 |
| giorgis | the nova logs don't seem to keep anything relevant with the instance ID or name | 11:16 |
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| Guest54886 | hello all what is the default over provisioning factor for ephemeral disks | 11:19 |
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| ganjawizard | short question. i am not really familiar with api's, but what can i do between amazon ec2 aws, and openstack? can i move instances, or something like that? | 11:37 |
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| adin | Are the performance impacts of nested virtualisation (i.e. running OpenStack nodes on VMs) too much for production use? | 11:54 |
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| adin | Specifically with whatever variant of Hyper-V, Windows Azure uses. | 11:54 |
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| ganjawizard | short question. i am not really familiar with api's, but what can i do between amazon ec2 aws, and openstack? can i move instances, or something like that? | 13:28 |
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| The_Ball | What type of objects are usually stored with Swift? | 13:37 |
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| larsks | ganjawizard: nope, you can't do anything like that. You could in theory use the same tool to provision instances in either aws or in openstack (using the ec2 apis), but there is no facility for moving things between the two environments. | 14:03 |
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| larsks | The_Ball: I'm not sure there is a "usually" for that question. I mean, applications store in swift whatever data they need. Could be disk images. Could be word documents. Could be cat videos... | 14:04 |
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| decci | Is it possible to Access horizon dashboard | 14:04 |
| decci | Log into horizon | 14:04 |
| decci | Pull some data from login area | 14:04 |
| decci | Log out of horizon | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all horizon does is make api calls, so you could just use those. | 14:05 |
| decci | How complex its to achieve it | 14:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | no reason to parse html | 14:05 |
| decci | Any link or reference | 14:05 |
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| ganjawizard | larsks: do you know a website with information about that kind of functions? something that explains what it can and does | 14:06 |
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| decci | Wondering if there is any script available | 14:07 |
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| larsks | ganjawizard: I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for. The OpenStack APIs are all fairly well documented at docs.openstack.org. E.g., http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html. | 14:08 |
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| larsks | decci: The Python api modules are reasonably easy to use. What sort of information are you trying to extract? | 14:09 |
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| The_Ball | larsks, aha, so any blob will do | 14:09 |
| The_Ball | larsks, when you say disk images, do you mean for storage, or could a VM use it directly from Swift? | 14:10 |
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| larsks | The_Ball: A vm could not directly boot from swift, no. I just mean you can store arbitrary data in swift. | 14:10 |
| ganjawizard | larsks: thanks for the link. i am just trying to figure out, what i am able to do with those api s and how to use them. especially how to work with it, when i run docker instances on different server like one on amazon and the other on google or something like that. i still havent figured out every function in openstack and what it does. im just a learning novice ^^ | 14:12 |
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| The_Ball | larsks, I see, thanks | 14:12 |
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| larsks | ganjawizard: So, in general, the answer is "anything you can do with the command line tools or the web ui, you can do using the apis directly" | 14:12 |
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| ganjawizard | larsks: yeah thats what i found out by watching some youtube videos ^ ^ its quite interesting. its only a little bit confusing what i could handle with the aws apis. i never used the api by myself, only heard and red of it. | 14:16 |
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| ganjawizard | but thanks anyway! | 14:21 |
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| decci | larks: I just want to verify if login and any data collection | 15:31 |
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| decci | Is possible | 15:31 |
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| decci | larsks: I want to see if script can login and collect any data | 15:33 |
| decci | larsks: if you have any script which can help me | 15:33 |
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| decci | Or available | 15:34 |
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| larsks | decci: I honestly don't know enough about what you're trying to do to give you a decent answer. Of course a script can authenticate against keystone and "collect data". What sort of data are you looking for? | 15:35 |
| larsks | Here's an example that uses the nova api to information about the flavor in use by an instance: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/62373/get-the-details-of-a-vm-using-api/?answer=62384#post-id-62384 | 15:35 |
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| decci | Let me check out | 15:36 |
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| rozie | nova backup b649829b-cb80-4085-9584-d4a17aff1c3b backupnovaway daily 5 | 15:45 |
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| rozie | i used this to create backups | 15:45 |
| rozie | I have one image created, over 24 hours ago | 15:46 |
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| rozie | it was created just after command was issued | 15:46 |
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| rozie | should I made anything else to make backups work? | 15:47 |
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| Guest64081 | hi all! Could anyone give me some directions about migrate instances from havanna to juno? | 17:38 |
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| Guest64081 | mudar nick mirc | 17:40 |
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| CoilDomain | tried enabling docker but after restarting glance-api im getting ImportError: No module named i18n | 17:54 |
| CoilDomain | removed everything from the configs that i added and same thing | 17:54 |
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| rbDrakkar | hi guys! Could someone give me some directions about migrating instances from havanna to juno? | 18:24 |
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| loth | Migrate instances to a different cluster or upgrading a cluster from havanna to juno? | 19:00 |
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| rbDrakkar | migrate to a diferent cluster | 19:04 |
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| biffster | I was trying to launch an instance, booting off a virtualbox image. The instance launched, but wouldn't boot from the image. I am able to boot the image in virtualbox, however. Should this have worked? | 19:16 |
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| aryklein | I wanna use the config-drive cause my network doen't have dhcp. What does --user-data mean in "nova boot" command? | 19:18 |
| loth | rbDrakkar, snapshot the instance, download the glance image to the other cluster, spawn using that image | 19:18 |
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| loth | aryklein: --user-data references a text file with your cloud-init config stuff | 19:19 |
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| loth | https://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html | 19:19 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: I already did this, but instance is showing "no bootable device" =/ | 19:20 |
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| aryklein | loth: so do I have to create a file like this example and use it with nova boot? | 19:21 |
| loth | aryklein: yes, you need to create userdata.txt and refrence that | 19:21 |
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| aryklein | loth: ahh oks! | 19:21 |
| loth | rbDrakkar: is the hardware the same on the source and destination clusters? | 19:21 |
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| loth | eg cpu arch, qemu virt type | 19:22 |
| rbDrakkar | loth: yes, exactly the same | 19:22 |
| aryklein | loth: and "--file /etc/network/interfaces=/home/myuser/instance-interfaces" will overwrite the file /etc/network/interfaces in my instance? | 19:22 |
| loth | aryklein: yes, you can also use 'write_files' in userdata, its on the link i sent | 19:23 |
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| aryklein | loth: ok... now I understand. Thanks! | 19:24 |
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| loth | rbDrakkar: can you spawn an instance from that snapshot on the source cluster and it works fine? | 19:24 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: good question, I'm gonna check this now | 19:25 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: yes, I can boot from snapshots in both installations | 19:27 |
| loth | in your VM are the drives detected as /dev/vdX in both locations? | 19:27 |
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| rbDrakkar | yes | 19:29 |
| loth | How are you saving the disks/what is your storage backend for these disks? | 19:29 |
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| rbDrakkar | the disks are stored in a LUN at controller node in the source and in another LUN in the destination | 19:32 |
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| loth | are they saved as a file eg raw/qcow image on your storage medium? | 19:33 |
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| rbDrakkar | they don't have any extensions | 19:34 |
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| loth | Id try to shutdown the VM and copy the disk over to the new cluster skipping the snapshot process | 19:35 |
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| loth | then upload it to the destination glance server as whatever the image type is | 19:35 |
| loth | qemu-img info should tell you | 19:36 |
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| rbDrakkar | good idea | 19:36 |
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| rbDrakkar | I'm gonna try this, thank you in advance | 19:36 |
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| jwitko | can anyone tell me, when i spin up a VM image, where is the local disk for that image living? | 20:07 |
| jwitko | my VM has 7G. where is that 7G actually coming from? | 20:08 |
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| Tibaza | if you don't create a volume explicitly the vm disk is created on the compute node | 20:11 |
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| jwitko | so is it best practice to have every VM root disk on a volume? or on the local nodes? | 20:13 |
| jwitko | and when creating new instances is it best practice to create off an image, volume, vol. snapshot, etc ? | 20:13 |
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| larsks | jwitko: I suspect the answer depends on your environment. | 20:24 |
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| jwitko | sounds reasonable | 20:25 |
| jwitko | i need to find a comparison of them | 20:25 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: there's a backing_file information attached to the image pointing to the source installation. I think that it is making all the mess here | 20:35 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: do you know how to remove it from the image? | 20:35 |
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| loth | that what qemu-img gives you? | 20:36 |
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| rbDrakkar | yes | 20:36 |
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| loth | Id try to parse it through qemu-img convert to convert it to a qcow2 or raw file | 20:36 |
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| rbDrakkar | I tried to qemu-img convert but it returns an error "could not open image" | 20:36 |
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| rbDrakkar | I realy dont understand this error message... the image is there | 20:37 |
| loth | can you paste the results of qemu-img info and the convert error you are getting? | 20:37 |
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| rbDrakkar | image: imagemmigra.qcow2 | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | file format: qcow2 | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | virtual size: 20G (21474836480 bytes) | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | disk size: 66M | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | cluster_size: 65536 | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | backing file: /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/bd656ed8dd156f287d01f0d6c13d485878704b34 | 20:38 |
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| loth | pastebin :) | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | ops | 20:38 |
| rbDrakkar | sry | 20:38 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: http://pastebin.com/YbYtDKzw | 20:40 |
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| dnalezyt | I'm having an issue with Nova API performance. It's very slow. 'Nova list' for example takes about 10 minutes to complete. There are less than 200 instances on this Icehouse site. | 20:42 |
| dnalezyt | on our other sites nova list returns in seconds. | 20:43 |
| dnalezyt | I've checked cli commands against all the other services and only Nova is performing slowly. | 20:43 |
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| dnalezyt | I'm not seeing any explicit errors in the logs, but it's simply taking forever to execute any commands. | 20:44 |
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| dnalezyt | Even 'nova list' in a tenant that had only 3 instances takes about 20 seconds... | 20:44 |
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| loth | rbDrakkar: Try converting /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/bd656ed8dd156f287d01f0d6c13d485878704b34 instead of imagemmigra.qcow2 | 20:50 |
| loth | make sure the instace is off | 20:51 |
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| rbDrakkar | loth: ok, I'm gonna try it, ty | 20:51 |
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| luflores | What is the recommended way of distributing the DHCP services? Is a good practice to configure the DHCP agent on all Nova/Compute nodes ? | 21:55 |
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| aryklein | what is the difference between add "network_vlan_ranges = external:1:1000" under [ovs] or under [ml2_type_vlan] | 22:56 |
| aryklein | in the ml2 plugin config file | 22:56 |
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| jwitko | they are not needed under ovs, just the brige mapping is | 22:58 |
| jwitko | but you must set that under ml2_type_vlan | 22:58 |
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| aryklein | jwitko: and in older openstack versions it was necessary under ovs | 23:00 |
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| jwitko | sorry yes just speaking about my experience with juno | 23:00 |
| jwitko | can't speak for any other versions | 23:00 |
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| aryklein | jwitko: ahh okas | 23:00 |
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| aryklein | jwitko: thnks! | 23:00 |
| jwitko | np | 23:01 |
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| adin | Is there an OpenStack mailing list? | 23:04 |
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| eeceetoo | adin: there is ask.openstack.org but my one question seems to have been ignored fo some 48 hours | 23:08 |
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| adin | Thanks | 23:11 |
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| aryklein | which command can I use to see the vlan tag in ovswitch? I mean... I wanna corroborate the ml2 config file is taking effect | 23:29 |
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| larsks | eeceetoo: sometimes it takes more than 48 hours for the right person to see your question. | 23:39 |
| larsks | adin: there is an openstack mailing list. Google for "openstack mailing list". | 23:39 |
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| adin | Okay | 23:40 |
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| larsks | aryklein: you probably will need to look at the output of "ovs-ofctl dump_flows <bridge>", where <bridge> is the OVS bridge connected to your physical interface. The output isn't particularly friendly, but it maps internal vlan tags to vlan tags "on the wire". | 23:40 |
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| larsks | aryklein: But note that I'm guessing, because I haven't actually worked much with vlan-based tenant networks; mostly I've been using tunnel (vxlan/gre) solutions. | 23:41 |
| aryklein | larsks: ok! I'll take a look! | 23:41 |
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| aryklein | larsks: Actually I'm working with provider networks | 23:41 |
| aryklein | not tenant network | 23:41 |
| ska | Does "network" have any affinty to NeutronAgent like L3? or is network just purely-logical? | 23:41 |
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| larsks | ska: Uhhh...I'm not sure how to answer that question. An L3 agent is responsible for setting up neutron routers, which are generally *connected* to neutron networks and provide the l3 routing for stuff to reach the outside world. | 23:42 |
| ska | I don't see anything in the neutron info that connect network to an agent... | 23:43 |
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| larsks | Networks aren't "connected" to agents, I guess. Networks are connected to routers; routers are managed by the L3 agent. | 23:43 |
| ska | larsks: thanks.. I'm trying to figure out root-cause dependency trees.. | 23:44 |
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| ska | I think Networks can be tainted by routers, subnets, floatingips etc.. but its not other way around. | 23:45 |
| larsks | ska: I don't know if this will help, but http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/ is an article I wrote a while back that talks about how neutron networks are realized in terms of routers, OVS devices, virtual nics, etc. | 23:45 |
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| ska | by taineted.. i mean flagged. | 23:45 |
| ska | ok.. ty | 23:45 |
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| aryklein | larsks: it works! thnks! | 23:52 |
| larsks | aryklein: \o/ | 23:52 |
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