Wednesday, 2014-11-05

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groen692good morning09:13
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groen692I have a glance problem that has been haunting me for a while now09:14
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groen692Anybody wants the think along with me?09:14
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sinhcan't seem to find any information on this or my google-fu is weak. . trying to create a new cinder volume on a newly built juno install10:17
sinh2014-11-05 10:14:59.588 1922 TRACE oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatcher TypeError: create_volume() got an unexpected keyword argument 'source_replicaid'10:17
sinhany info/pointers greatly appreciated on how to solve this10:17
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groen692sinh, do you create from image or just an empty cinder volume?10:34
sinhempty cinder volume10:34
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sinhso my storage nodes have a vg named openstack10:35
sinhnot very creative but it keeps others from mucking with it10:35
sinhcinder.conf is set to use openstack instead of cinder-volumes10:35
sinhas the name of the vg10:35
sinhcinder create --display-name demo-volume1 110:35
sinhmore or less is the command i'm using to create the volume10:35
groen692I did not see this problem in my setup10:36
sinhnot a lot of errors popping up when i tried to google it10:36
sinhso i'm not sure if i'm doing things incorrectly or not10:36
groen692I had a vg backend, shortly for test purposes. but it seemd to work ok10:36
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sinhi've never seen this error during havana but that was a bit ways back10:38
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groen692I have a ceph backend configured10:39
sinhwoo ceph10:39
groen692so I can share my cinder.conf, but it wont help you much10:39
sinhactually10:40
sinhif you don't mind10:40
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sinhnext test is to get a ceph backend going10:40
groen692then I would be curious10:40
sinhi always start out with the lvm one since it seems to be the simplest10:40
groen692I have a glance problem haunting me10:40
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groen692with ceph backend10:40
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groen692it just doesn't work10:40
sinhi'll share when i get to it if you haven't figured it out10:40
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dANO_Hi everyone, I have an 401 unauthorized error with temp-url , if anyone can help me : https://gist.github.com/fclement21/4c3cf2a3330a16eeeff1 Thank's13:34
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mparisi_I have 2 networks at home: 192.168.0.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/24... I have 3 computers, with 2 network cards on each, and I want to deploy Openstack on it, so that I have 1 control node, and 2 compute nodes, and I want the VMs to be able to get IP addresses from 10.0.0.0/24 network... how should I setup my network?14:24
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larsksmparisi: That's a broad question. It might be easier to answer questions that are slightly more focused.14:27
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mparisilarsks, I don't know if I should use vlan, bridge, or stuff like that14:27
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dANO_Hi everyone, I have an 401 unauthorized error with temp-url , if anyone can help me : https://gist.github.com/fclement21/4c3cf2a3330a16eeeff1 Thank's14:27
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larsksmparisi: You will probably either (a) want to set up overlay networks for tenant isolation (gre/vxlan) or (b) set up a flat "provider" network to connect instances directly to the 10.0.0.0/24 network.14:28
larsksUsing (a) instances would get private ips, and then you would assign floating ips on the 10.0... network.14:28
larsksUsing (b) instances would have addresses directly on the 10.0... network and there would be no NAT involved.14:29
mparisilarsks, from what I've read around, I would go for flat14:29
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mparisiyes, so (b)14:29
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larsksDocumentation for (b) is a little slim right now, but rackspace has some posts about provider networks that are worth a read.14:29
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mparisiin a 2 ethernet card environment, is this ok? or do you have any other recommendation?14:29
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larsksI think it should be okay.  This means that you will probably want to run everything else (storage, databases, amqp, api, etc) over the 192.168... network, and leave the 10.0... network strictly for instance network traffic.14:31
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larsksI wouldn't recommend it for a production deployment (I would recommend additional interfaces because there are security concerns running public apis and internal db/amq traffic on the same network), but for a dev/PoC environment it should be fine.14:32
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mparisilarsks, the plan was a 3 ethernet card, but one of my cards is not working on linux yet... probably will have a patch soon for the kernel... after that, the plan is to move data/storage to this third ethernet card14:32
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larsksSounds like a good plan.14:32
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mparisiis it simple to change network configuration after everything is running?14:34
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larsksIt shouldn't be too bad.14:35
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henditanhi folks.. correct me if I am wrong. Based on the basics-prerequisites in openstack docs, do I need to get 3 cloud servers (e.g: 3 x m3.medium amazon instance) in order to meet its minimum requirement?16:17
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henditanController Node: 1 processor, 2 GB memory, and 5 GB storage16:17
henditanNetwork Node: 1 processor, 512 MB memory, and 5 GB storage16:17
henditanCompute Node: 1 processor, 2 GB memory, and 10 GB storage16:17
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Sharath_Hi am new to neutron , we have our own virtual switch , may i know how to write a mechanism for that , may i know what are all the steps need to follow ?16:18
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SamYapleSharath_: this is probably something youll want to discuss in one of the dev channels16:21
Sharath_ok sam16:22
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SamYapleI would help if I could, it should be possible but I havent done it myself, only read about it16:22
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KyleRAnyone else have issues deleting expired tokens?16:36
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KyleRI'm manually deleted expired tokens (25,000 at a time) and it takes ~10 minutes.16:37
MilesDenverKyleR: Mine don't take that long.  I think I wrote a script to delete them.16:37
KyleRI've setup token flush to run daily (moving forward), but I still need to clean out the expired tokens (8 months worth!!)16:37
KyleRkeystone-manage token_flush will purge the token table of expired tokens.16:38
MilesDenvermy DB was 3.6GB…. lol… time to fix it.16:38
KyleRProblem we have is that the command has never been run, so it's trying to delete 8 months worth of expired tokens (millions of rows).16:38
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KyleROurs is 12G+ currently lol16:39
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MilesDenveroh…. ouch.  I think my method was to export the DB and reimport it the first time around16:39
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KyleREven bumping up the memory for innodb (from the default 8M), the token_flush command fails (ran for 5 hours yesterday before failing), which is why we're manually deleting chunks for now.16:40
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KyleRYeah lol16:40
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KyleRWe think the size of the database is affecting dashboard (and general) latency on our cloud.16:41
KyleRClicking between projects, etc takes ~20-30 seconds16:41
MilesDenverprobably…. so why not export it and then repimport it?16:41
Sam-I-AmKyleR: so that was your problem...16:42
Sam-I-Amtons of expired tokens16:42
SamYaplekyleR: keystone token flush16:42
SamYaple^^16:42
Sam-I-Amkind of figured as much16:42
Sam-I-Amyou'll just need to run it until it stops failing16:42
Sam-I-Amor do them by groups of dates16:42
SamYapledepending on your version there is an openstack builtin to flush expired tokens. set that to a cronjob16:42
KyleRYeah.  I set the innodb memory buffer to 5G (up from 8M) and it was still failing lol16:43
KyleRI'm just running the delete from command manually, 25,000 rows at a time.16:43
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KyleRMilesDenver that's the plan.  Just waiting on the okay from others in the group.16:44
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KyleRIn the interim, I've just been running the command manually to delete chunks.16:44
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hadabaxHey, is it possible to configure VPNaaS in RDO, somehow could now find anything online?16:45
hadabax*not16:45
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jasonsbSam-I-Am: u on?16:45
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KyleRSamYaple I wrote a daily cron on both our production cloud (Havana) and development cloud (Icehouse).16:46
KyleRThe icehouse cloud cron runs just fine (takes milliseconds)16:46
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KyleRThe Havana cron fails because there are too many rows.16:46
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KyleROnce I'm able to purge the huge cache of deleted tokens, I presume that the cron on the Havana cloud will run as expected.16:47
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KyleRexpired tokens*16:47
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MilesDenverKyleR: Mine runs find and my stack spins up about 12.5K VMs a month… lots of tokens.16:49
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SamYapleKyleR: that sounds right16:49
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SamYapleMilesDenver: do you flust tokens regularly16:49
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mnaserKyleR: there is a task to flush tokens built in i think16:50
MilesDenveryes… it's in the crontab… not sure how regularly16:50
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mnaserkeystone-manage token_flush16:51
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MilesDenvermnaser: He found the command after his DB was 12GB  now when he runs it it deletes some tokens, but never finishes16:52
SamYapleI think KyleR was saying he wasn't token_flushing so there are too many tokens, is that correct?16:52
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KyleRmaser that command won't work presently because the table is too big.  Once we get the table under control, the cron that I wrote references that command.16:53
MilesDenveryes…. the plan is to export the DB and reimport it16:53
mnaserouch16:53
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mnaseri have a suggestion16:53
mnaserwhich is kinda overkill16:53
mnasertruncate table token;16:53
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mnaserits better than export and reimport.. but you'll have people unauth'd if they have tokens16:54
KyleRSamYaple that's correct.  I inherited the Havana cloud; I built the Icehouse cloud16:54
mnasernot sure how much of an issue it'll be for you, but most openstack clients will try to reauth anyways16:54
KyleRJust trying to correct issues that the previous engineer left.16:54
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KyleRtoken_flush was never run (this cloud is 8 months old)16:55
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KyleRmaser I will read about truncate table token. Thanks!16:55
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KyleRWow!  So many tokens lol. I just ran a query to show the 20 oldest tokens.  After deleting 25,000 rows, the before after are only 2 days apart!16:57
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Sam-I-AmKyleR: i'm surprised it didnt fall over earlier16:58
Sam-I-Ami've had smaller test clusters become unusable in about 2 weeks16:58
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KyleRYeah.  This is amazing lol16:59
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redcavalierHi guys, got a few issues with logging for some openstack services17:24
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redcavalierI'm on juno, and I've set all my services to log to syslog, and then set syslog to push the logs to a remote server.17:25
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redcavalierglance and neutron are logging properly. However, I don't get anything from cinder, nova and keystone17:26
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redcavalieryet, they all got the same conf regarding to logging and are on the same server17:27
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Sam-I-Amredcavalier: do you have 'verbose = true' ?17:30
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redcavalierSam-I-Am yup17:32
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Sam-I-Amhmm, should see more out of nova then17:32
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redcavalierwell, it logs on the log file of the server itself17:32
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redcavalierits just that it's not being pushed by syslog, even though everything should be pushed by it17:33
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Sam-I-Amoh... thats another issue17:33
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X123@Sam-I-Am how's it going :)17:35
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redcavalierit'S really strange though, because I have one rule to push all logs and it does push some of them (glance and neutron) just not everything17:35
Sam-I-AmX123: yo17:36
Sam-I-Amredcavalier: hmm... have to figure out whats really going on there17:36
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redcavalieryea, now it looks like at least nova has stopped logging on the original server since 11am17:39
redcavalierwell, 11:5017:39
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redcavalieryet cinder continues to log there17:39
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KyleRredcavalier probably a silly question, but have you bounced the syslog server on the cinder, nova, and keystone nodes after making config changes?17:41
KyleRsyslog daemon, I mean17:42
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redcavalieryea, several times17:44
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redcavalierI'm assuming that by bounce you mean restarted17:44
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KyleRYes.17:47
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redcavalieryea, I even restarted the server just to make sure17:48
KyleRAre there any firewall rules on the rsyslog server that could be blocking messages from those nodes (assuming they're on different IPs than the services that do work)17:48
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redcavaliernothing is set to drop in iptables, so nope, that shouldn't be an issue either. Anyway, all is sent from the same ip to my log server.17:50
Mark_Soulehello, Mark joining17:50
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KyleROh okay.17:53
KyleRWelcome Mark.17:54
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redcavalierif a logdir is specified in my nova.conf, would it cause it to ignore the use_syslog=True setting ?18:02
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redcavalierdoesn'T seem to make a difference...18:04
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KyleRBummer18:05
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KyleRIs the logdir parameter used in the services that are logging remotely successfully?18:06
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redcavalierit'S commented out18:08
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redcavalierhrm, I wonder, is there a specific order in which those parameters should be specified? I mean, I know they need to be underneath [DEFAULT] in the conf file, but do they need to be after and/or before another parameter?18:10
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redcavalierI'm asking because for the services where it doesn'T work right now, I didn'T get a default template in the conf file when they were installed18:10
redcavalierby default template I mean like how each option is listed and commented out by default. There were only some default options set, many sections were not there and were added by us.18:12
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Sam-I-Amredcavalier: you can look at the configuration guide18:13
Sam-I-Amer, configuration reference18:13
Sam-I-Amshould find a description of all options there18:14
redcavalieryea, I guess that would tell me18:14
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KyleRAs long as the parameters are under the correct header, I don't think the order particularly matters.18:22
Sam-I-Amthey shouldnt18:22
redcavalieryea, it doesn't seem like it does18:23
redcavalieror at least it didn't change anything when I moved them around18:23
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KyleRAre the logging options under the same headings in each of your config files?18:24
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redcavalieryea18:25
redcavalierthey'Re under [DEFAULT]18:25
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KyleRTo those who have 'tuned' their default msql settings, what value(s) are you using for the innodb_buffer_pool_size19:19
KyleR(default is 8M)19:19
KyleRmysql*19:19
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eth2usually that goes according to your system's ressources and needs19:20
KyleRAny downside to setting the value @ ~50 % of the physical box memory?19:20
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eth2is it a dedicated sql server?19:20
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KyleRThis is simply a database server (mysql // mongodb)19:20
eth2I would go up to 75-80% if so19:20
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KyleRCool.  I'll give that a shot.  Our db server only has 16G.19:21
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eth2you might want to run it for 24hours and then run one of the performance tools19:21
eth2mysqltuner / mysqlreport / tuning-primer.sh19:22
KyleR(compared with our compute nodes that are 256G per box).19:22
eth2that gives you some headlines into what direction to head to19:22
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KyleRYeah.  Too many tokens to run token_flush with the buffer at 8M.19:22
KyleRI'll crank it up after the mysql cleanup script completes.19:23
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elicoHey, I would like to know what are the options about introduction to openstack in a text based terminal links\lynx?20:36
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dwangoACelico: Introduction to openstack, as in documentation that is readable with lynx / w3m?20:39
elicodwangoAC: yes20:39
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dwangoAC...and now emacs, now that I think of it, as I believe they also added a web browser20:39
eliconice!!20:39
dwangoACelico: Well, as a w3m user myself I can certainly appreciate your goal, but I'll be honest, finding *any* documentation at all seems to be a challenge20:39
dwangoACelico: You'll probably have some amount of success with the official documentation, although I don't know how well lynx is going to handle the frame20:40
elicoI will start at the start: http://www.openstack.org/software/start/20:40
Sam-I-Amelico: whats wrong with gui web browsers?20:40
dwangoACSam-I-Am: I choose not to use them because it helps keep my mobile internet usage down, my connectivity snappy, and I don't have to worry about being asaulted with advertisements20:41
elicoSam-I-Am: at night I want other colors to not disrupt someone near me.20:41
Sam-I-Aminteresting20:41
dwangoACSam-I-Am: Also, I'm a bit what I'd describe as photophpbic, and w3m allows me to force a black background20:41
dwangoACelico: Ah, me too20:41
dwangoACelico: I still keep my N900 on my bedside table for that purpose20:42
elicohoo20:42
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dwangoACelico: N900 with hardware keyboard + full-screen terminal using a script to hide the soft buttons + w3m = very fast way of getting information out of Slashdot and many other pages20:42
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dwangoACSam-I-Am: It's not that there's anything "wrong" with other web browsers, it's just that there are times where keeping it simple (*really* simple) is preferable20:43
elicofor some it makes sense and other no.20:43
elicos/other/others/g20:43
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Sam-I-Ami havent been able to successfully text browse in a while20:43
dwangoACelico: I find Slashdot to be far more tolerable with w3m :)20:43
Sam-I-Ama lot of sites just dont work at all20:43
dwangoACSam-I-Am: You must not have a hardware keyboard. :)20:43
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elicodwangoAC: I do here but not near the bed.20:44
dwangoACSam-I-Am: You're not going to be getting through, say, NFL.com with w3m / lynx / emacs / anything else that doesn't have full JavaScript support, that's for certian20:44
dwangoACAh, lucky.  I'm on the search for an Android phone with a keyboard that actually works.20:44
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elicodwangoAC: They have something smart that helps you all the time and sometimes it helps but not always.20:45
dwangoACelico: They?20:45
elicoandroid devices..(it's less they but still..)20:46
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dwangoACelico: Ah, sorry, I was having a heck of a time parsing your sentence. :)20:46
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dwangoACelico: I think you're referring to keyboard autocorrect20:46
dwangoACAnd for that, man am I usually annoyed at it20:46
elicoI got something preinstalled on my android device.20:46
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dwangoACelico: Was it called Bloatware / Crapware / Spyware? :)20:47
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elicono and I noticed that it has some of the properties of what you have mentioned.20:47
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dwangoACYep.20:48
elicohttp://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/openstack-ops_preface.html#introduction-to-openstack seems nice on a regular web browser.20:48
dwangoACelico: I'm hoping SailfishOS gets off the ground20:48
elicowhat is it this OS??20:48
dwangoACelico: It's based off of Maemo / Moblin / Meego (what happened when Maemo and Moblin merged)20:49
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dwangoACelico: But it has Android app compatibility20:49
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elicohoo I got the picture now..20:49
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elicoWe can see and hope that they will move one step forward.20:49
dwangoACelico: Effectively, all those Nokia developers that got let go in the Epocolypse?  They started a company named Jolla.20:49
dwangoACelico: You can get a phone from them in Europe now, and in the US eventually.20:50
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elicoso they did something will all their talent...20:50
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dwangoACSorry, should have spelled that the Elopcolypse (Steven Elop, who left Microsoft to be the CEO of Nokia, laid off 30k employees and sent the company into the tank and then sold to Microsoft where he is now a VP)20:50
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elicodwangoAC: it sound awful.20:51
dwangoACelico: It sounds borderline criminal.20:51
dwangoACAnd defniitely not ethical.  Even when using "business ethics" as the yardstick.20:51
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elicoI would say that there are many criminals out there and there is hope always.20:52
dwangoACelico: So, I choose not to support Microsoft in any way, and I'm now the President of the North Bay Linux User's Group20:53
dwangoACI figure I can vote with my money.20:53
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elicoWhere is north bay?20:53
dwangoACelico: San Francisco north bay, northern California (http://nblug.org, not sure if this week's meeting description is up yet)20:54
elicoWell I would not get there in the near future but it's nice to know about it.20:54
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elicoThis: http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/openstack-ops-manual.pdf20:55
elicoSeems very nice and I might be able to use a black background for that.20:55
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alevesque\\\\\\\p;lo[[[[[[[[[[l21:12
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jasonsbSam-I-Am: u on?21:37
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Sam-I-Amjasonsb: hi21:39
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gaudSam-I-Am: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/138988021:57
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jasonsbSam-I-Am: hallo21:59
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jasonsbSam-I-Am: just curious if you are northern or southern hemisphere21:59
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Sam-I-Amjasonsb: northern22:02
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jasonsblike to say hi sometime if get the chance22:03
jasonsb(assuming you are in paris)22:03
MarcNwhois MarcN22:03
MarcNd'oh.22:03
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iunruhwhen I'm using neutron l3 in dvr_snat mode, should the SNAT router be scheduled on more than one L3 agent?22:05
iunruhbecause that's what's happening but I don't think it's supposed to be doing that22:05
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Sam-I-Amjasonsb: i'm not in paris this week22:06
jasonsbah ok22:06
Sam-I-Ami'll be at the next conf probably22:06
jasonsbfor some reason i thought you were in aus22:06
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Sam-I-Amnot that i'm aware of22:06
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X123iunruh, lol.. juno dvr :)22:31
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Sam-I-Amiunruh: the snat router should just be on the network node... unless theres a config issue22:34
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X123i don't think HA works yet on that right sam?22:35
Sam-I-Amno22:36
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alevesqueWould be curious to see if iunruh has the same issue has us22:37
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X123aye22:39
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Sam-I-Amyay, the new swift docs work22:44
Sam-I-Amwell, for ubuntu22:45
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iunruhSam-I-Am: you are correct, it's only putting the SNAT namespace on a single network node22:53
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iunruhI'm having too many issues with DVR to actually use it though.. floating IP assoc is broken in Horizon with DVR, can't migrate SNAT routers between L3 agents, etc.22:53
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iunruhall of these have open bug reports, but it looks like some won't be fixed until Kilo :(22:54
iunruhit's a shame, DVR is really neat and like 90% there22:54
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alevesquefloating IP assoc is broken in Horizon with DVR22:57
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alevesqueyou have the bug report link with that one?22:57
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iunruhhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/138830522:58
iunruhand duplicate https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/138917722:58
iunruhreally easy fix, it's just a single-line change to Horizon22:58
* X123 is surprised nobody test this before release..22:59
Sam-I-Amgaud: didnt you patch horizon?22:59
Sam-I-Amgaud: or submit a patch22:59
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iunruhgaud's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132749/22:59
gaudSam-I-Am yes22:59
Sam-I-Amgaud: did you update it with the recommendations?23:00
gaudnot yet23:00
gaudjust fixed the trailing whitespace for now23:00
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Sam-I-Amwait, did it create a second patch?23:00
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iunruhyeah, there's two patches out there23:01
iunruhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/132383/23:01
gaudyeah, I had trouble to amend23:01
Sam-I-Amuh ohhhh23:01
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Sam-I-Amwhat did you do?23:01
Sam-I-Amshould just be in the same branch... git commit -a --amend23:02
gaudhehe no idea, I was not able to commit my change23:02
Sam-I-Amthen git review -v23:02
Sam-I-Amwell, abandon the other one or something :/23:02
gaudok, so I should delete this new patch?23:02
gaudand amend the old one23:02
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gaudso I just amend and add the same change-id in the commit log ?23:03
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Sam-I-Amone or the other...23:04
Sam-I-Amjust cant have both out there23:04
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gaudsorry i'm a bit new to all this gerrit stuff23:09
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Sam-I-Amgaud: sure, np23:10
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Sam-I-Amgaud: took me a while to get used to it23:14
Sam-I-Ampretty big process23:14
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gaudSam-I-Am I am also not very used to git , I am using it for very simple thing usually..23:15
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Joe_knockSam-I-Am: A bit off-topic, but if you are familiar with bash: How do I use the sed command on this line of text: @require(dirname(__FILE__).'/php/login.php'); ?? I want to remove this line of text from about 5 files ??23:15
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alevesqueso iunruh  issue is not the issue we had with fip in namespaces23:16
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pastypas_I've download the openstack manuals, ive created a branch. how do I then go and edit the file for the branch23:20
pastypas_do I just open the file normally, or do I need to do anythign special?23:20
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Joe_knockwhat is the file format? pastypas_23:22
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gaudSam-I-Am: hope it's better now..23:24
gaudwhat a mess I have done :)23:24
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pastypas_Joe_knock: this is the file:  openstack-manuals / doc / common / section_dashboard_customizing.xml23:29
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Joe_knockLooks like any editor should be able to open that XML file, pastypas_23:29
pastypas_If I want to submit a change to this file, does a bug have to be open?23:30
Sam-I-Ampastypas_: should be23:30
Sam-I-Amgives other people the ability to evaluate the prioritize the issue23:30
pastypas_ah okay, http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/dashboard-custom-brand.html this page is pretty poor23:31
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pastypas_in my opinion23:32
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Sam-I-Amfile a bug and fix it :)23:34
pastypas_I will tomorrow its too late to start doing anythign now, nearly midnight23:34
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Joe_knockEurope? pastypas_23:36
pastypas_Yeah UK23:36
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pastypas_Are you guys usally on daily?23:38
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pastypas_Ill make my changes tomorrow, and Ill need help submitting it etc, im very new to this so ill probs mess it up :P23:41
Sam-I-Amwe're here to help23:42
pastypas_cheers, I love openstack and thought i should probs give back, so this is my first time doing anythign like thi23:42
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