Tuesday, 2014-10-28

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defishguyI'm having trouble getting an instance to connect to the internet.  I'm using qemu on a vm and I have enaled promisc on the external interface.  No dice.00:29
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darkinvaderhello fellas01:23
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darkinvaderanybody here with Icehouse with Linux Bridge instead of OVS for large installation?01:24
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MentalRay_Regarding Ceilometer and MongoDB: Is a MongoDB Cluster necessary at some point when you are scaling a cloud beyond 100+ Compute Nodes?02:47
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hanthanacan someone pass me the answer file for packstack? I need a generic answer file but right now I do not have a OpenStack installed system around08:54
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pandahanthana: have you tried command line argument  --gen-answer-file=generic-answer-file.txt ?08:57
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hanthanapanda, i don't have a system to generate it ;-)09:23
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drmagooCan someon explain, (on openstack havana) when using the nova-networking module, how you check the metadata service? Since the documentation refers to a 169.254-address which is none-routble? Have I missed something/some setting ?10:13
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Teduardois there an HA feature in openstack yet similar to vmotion where if a Hypervisor fails a VM will automatically start on a different VM (assuming all hypervisors have access to shared storage)12:16
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Teduardo?12:16
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SamYapleTeduardo: I dont believe so. Heat AutoScaling *may* be able to do what you want, but only if you built your application correctly12:48
mudblurTeduardo: I think this feature is called Evacuate (http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/nova_cli_evacuate.html)12:49
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SamYaplemudblur: that is not automatic12:49
mudblurmudblur: but I think it could be automated, no?12:50
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SamYapledid you respond to yourself? :)12:50
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SamYapleYes you could12:50
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SamYapleDoing things "the openstack way" would mean that your application should survie the failure of one instance and the data is ephemeral12:51
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SamYapleSo i havent see much work towards making VMs more persistent since the goal is the opposite12:52
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mudblurSamYaple: I agree with that, but a lot of people still have legacy systems… maybe this was his point…12:52
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SamYapleOh yes, but I have not see any work towards supporting legacy usage of openstack because that is not the direction it wants to go. So it will be alot of triggering and scripts12:57
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mudblurSamYaple: sad but true… =/12:59
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SamYapleI disagree. I like the progression. It does make adoption harder for alot of people though13:00
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kodiak1I'm here to ask a dumb question after reading http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/manage_ip_addresses.html.  It sounds like an IP is statically assigned to an instance until it is fully terminated, but the IP is still delivered via DHCP.  So this is basically statically assigned DHCP, probably keyed from the VM MAC addy right?13:58
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kodiak1I ask because I've been tasked with allowing some pet-tending in openstack for VMs migrating over from vmware esx13:59
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kodiak1these are all long-running VMs that are individually managed as distinct hosts, rather than applications living on top of generic VMs14:00
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kodiak1So I'll be allowing them to pick up an IP via DHCP (I think), then updating that host's CNAME in DNS to the randomly assigned IP from dnsmasq14:01
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Firespirithttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/51920/why-nova-get-password-return-me-error-2-the-system-cannot-find-the-file-specifiedfailed-to-decrypt/14:27
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kodiak1another thing - I'm kind of baffled, on the first host I moved over from vmware, after booting into single user mode updating the MAC address, and the ifcfg-eth0 sysconfig file I got an IP from DHCP, MTU, DNS info all of that, but I didnt get a default route!14:28
kodiak1I can't figure out why14:28
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kodiak1Also - I can add the default gateway (route add default gw 10.62.4.1 eth0) and it works, until the network service is restarted and it re-pulls dhcp14:36
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kodiak1so it's like Openstack DNSMasq is counting on cloud-init to provide a default gateway during instance spawn rather than from DHCP or something14:37
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kodiak1But if I do a neutron subnet-show {subnet} it shows a defined gateway14:37
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Sam-I-Amif you specified --gateway during the tenant network subnet creation, it should be handing out a gateway14:40
Sam-I-Amyou could sniff the dhcp traffic to see14:40
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kodiak1question (and not to be argumentative), but if neutron subnet-show {subnet} shows a defined gateway, is that confirmation that the --gateway step was not missed?14:41
Sam-I-Ami would *think* so... but it is neutron.14:41
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kodiak1fair enough - so odd that my "real" cloud VMs work fine and my stupid inherited pets from vmware don't14:42
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kodiak1so it looks like dnsmasq doesn't hand out a gateway somehow14:45
kodiak1from the dnsmasq-dhcp logs14:45
larskskodiak1: what do the logs say, exactly? What do the command line arguments to that dnsmasq process look like?14:46
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larsksYou can also pass a null dhclient-script to dhclient and just have it log the information it receives from the dhcp server if you want to debug on the client side...14:46
kodiak1larsks:  So here's what I'm seeing in the dhcp logs http://paste.openstack.org/show/125963/14:47
kodiak1I'm going to try to update the gateway def on the subnet14:48
larskskodiak1: which part makes you think it isn't handing out a gateway?  E.g. on line 19 it sure looks like does.14:48
kodiak1I'm just baffled that it's only happening with my vmware migrated image so far - and there's only one so that's a crap sample size14:48
kodiak1larsks, dang you're right - you have sharper eyes than I14:48
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larsksWhat os is your vmware expat running?14:49
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kodiak1so this null dhclient script you mentioned, got any pointers on setting that up (blog posts etc)?  It's a RHEL 6.6 host - all my stuff is RHEL 6.6 at this point14:49
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larskskodiak1: sure, just a sec, let me throw one together...14:50
kodiak1youdaman!14:50
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larskssomething like this: http://chunk.io/f/ef93e58f4ab04f86ad1e839c59bfcb8a?lang=sh14:52
larsksDrop it into a file, chmod +x, and then run "dhclient -sf /path/to/thatscript <interface>"14:52
larsksActually, probably add a "-d" there to keep dhclient in the foreground.14:52
larsksThat will log all the variables set by dhclient to /tmp/dhclient.log, which you can then inspect at your leisure.14:53
daniel_chHi guys, I've been trying to deploy openstack in my lab but I keep spinning around the same questions.. perhaps I got it wrong.. so I will ask: we have a few machines, dual-homened hosts, multicore, +4GB bla bla bla..  What people want is: a virtualized cluster running XEN and managed through openstack to allocate resources according to peoples need. Thus I think a scenario is: one, let's call king_node, to run all openstack se14:53
daniel_chis that a realistic deployment for a small lab?14:53
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larsksdaniel_ch: your question was sort of truncated there.  Best to post in smaller lines.14:54
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daniel_chthanks larsks .14:54
larsksIf your machines only have 4GB of RAM you're going to be very constrained in the number of virtual servers you can boot on any single system.14:54
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daniel_chI was looking at devstack because I want something fast to deploy and in case of an armageddon we can simply deploy it again. no need specific tunes in each service... but all tutorials of xen+openstack seems dated..14:55
kodiak1thanks larsks - I'm going to try to get into the host via ssh now that I have the def route set up manually and copy that in and test it14:55
gaud_devstack is not made to use for production  daniel_ch14:56
daniel_chI would like to ask: is this scenario god_node with all essential services + a bunch of compute-nodes realistic, then, can you point me to a quick tutorial to get it runnig?14:56
larsksI am not familiar with Xen at all...but devstack is not really meant for anything other than testing out openstack.  It's not necessarily what you would use if you will be using your openstack environment for real work.14:56
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larsksdaniel_ch: Having a single "controller" and a bunch of compute nodes is a pretty typical starting point for openstack.14:56
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larsksSo that's fine.14:56
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daniel_chI understand gaud_ , they say it so many times that is impossible to ignore. however, this is not critical as a web facing app, or a data certer to serve tenants from outside the organization.. and I dont want to spend all the time on managing every service because I have others responsabilities as well, assume the catastrophic scenario-hacker destroy everithing but backups, a solution is redeploy and we are fine with it14:59
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gauddaniel_ch, look into packstack maybe15:00
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daniel_chthanks for the pointer gaud :)15:00
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daniel_chone another question. it iseems that when deploying openstack on Xen, what is actually done is to run an ubuntu instance and put openstack one it.. nothing is really changed in xen node that runs the controller. so a Xen+openstack installation is no different from a allinone ubuntu+openstack install, is that right?15:02
daniel_chI never needed to install anything directly on xen, according to the tutorials I have seen15:03
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Firespiritdoes a other set of command beside nova to get the password of my instance15:23
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larsksFirespirit: I don't think so.15:28
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larsksdaniel_ch: xen is just the hypervisor -- it is *controlled by* openstack, but openstack is not installed *under* it.15:29
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daniel_chok larsks , I downloaded xen-center and installed, then on top of it I thought that I needed some openstack module, when in fact, I actually need a regular vm, running whatever linux I want, and openstack services on top of it, right?15:32
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daniel_chIn theory I would like to go withouth a linux distro, in practice I need one for the controller but the rest of processes can be plain xen-center (or not??)15:32
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gparaskevashello15:33
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gparaskevasi have a problem with nova network15:33
gparaskevason the dashboard i get "unable to obtain security groups"15:34
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gparaskevasand on the cli when i type nova secgroup-list15:34
gparaskevasi get this ERROR (ClientException): The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-d8d77543-9d46-46aa-ac15-7afe27386f8e)15:34
gparaskevascan anyone help?15:34
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larsksgparaskevas: So, the server returned an error response.  That suggests you should be looking in your server logs to see what's wrong.15:35
gparaskevasnova logs?15:35
gparaskevasnova-api?15:35
larsksdaniel_ch: I'm not xen-savvy enough, sorry.15:35
larsksgparaskevas: I would start with the nova-api log, yes, since that is what is returning the error.15:35
larsksThe nova client talks to nova-api.15:36
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gparaskevasok15:37
gparaskevasi see this on the last line after rerunning the command15:37
gparaskevas2014-10-28 17:37:17.468 16930 TRACE nova.api.openstack ConnectionFailed: Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached15:37
larsksgparaskevas: Okay.  So, nova-api is unable to connect to the neutron api server.15:38
gparaskevaswhy neutron?15:38
gparaskevasi am using the lagcy network service15:38
gparaskevasor am i wrong?15:38
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larsksWhat is network_api_class in your nova.conf?15:38
gparaskevas#nova-network# network_api_class = nova.network.api.API security_group_api = nova #nova-network#15:39
daniel_chlarsks: thanks.. that's scenario is probably not a usual one. therefore is probably not a better choice for me due the lack of support. but the pointers I got here was already very informative!!!15:39
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larsksgparaskevas: weird. in theory, with that commented out, nova should be defaulting to nova.network.api.API.15:41
larsksAre there any other neutron-related configs set in your nova.conf?15:42
gparaskevaslet me see15:42
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larsksmaybe: grep neutron /etc/nova/nova.conf | grep -v '^#'15:42
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gparaskevasi see this :network_api_class=nova.network.neutronv2.api.API15:43
gparaskevasand this security_group_api = neutron15:44
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gparaskevasi am mustt be stupid15:44
larsksgparaskevas: that seems to contradict your earlier answer :)  So that is probably your problem.15:44
gparaskevasi hope so15:44
gparaskevasi am restarting my brain..i mean nova api15:45
gparaskevas:P15:45
gparaskevasthank you15:45
gparaskevasthat was it!15:45
larsks\o/15:46
gparaskevas:)15:46
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kodiak1hey larsks, thakns again for the dhclient script, I ran it and I see the route option coming down - no idea why this stupid vmware ex-pat VM won't just do what it's supposed to do and set up the default route:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/126004/16:11
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larskskodiak1: depending on how much you want to work on this, you could step through the actual /sbin/dhclient-script using those values and see what happens, I guess...e.g., set those variables in the environment and 'sh -x /sbin/dhclient-script'16:15
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decciDoes RHEL 7.0 ships with foreman-installer16:29
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kodiak1ah - good call - time for this guy to dig in and learn about the inner workings of dhclient after umpteen years of just using it and it working w/o any thought16:32
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kodiak1thanks larsks, I'm going to give it a shot16:32
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kodiak1decci:  I think RDO Juno channel does16:33
kodiak1but I've not tried it out yet - it was only released like Friday16:33
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mtl11Hi, anyone using nagios or icinga for monitor openstack… Does anyone do anything as far as monitoring for when available server resources are getting low? Mainly the amount or RAM and CPU in use compared to what the total available is? Any suggestions? Thanks!16:52
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zbeeI have a grizzly system and a compute node failed. I'd like to bring up the VM's on another node. Can someone point me to this procedure? Thanks.17:44
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TheFutonEngdoes neutron support having GRE and VXLAN tunnels up concurrently?17:46
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FirespiritI have a swift question : i create an object container with the swift command. i'm able to upload or download content with swift command without issue. I would like to know what is the public URL of that container so someone can do a regular http call to download from it?19:08
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hypnosbHi when a clone operation is initiated using cinder, does cinder know to perform that copy locally or does it have to read through the compute node? I saw this problem when using vmware and NFS shares and an array without VAAI extensions.19:32
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shane____after configuring neutron on juno i am seeing rabbitmq logs getting hammered with messages: closing AMQP connection <0.21243.0> (10.x.x.x:45831 -> 10.x.x.x:5672)20:28
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shane____would this indicate a problem with something not closing connections to rabbitmq properly? can it safely be ignored?20:28
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MentalRay_Regarding Ceilometer and MongoDB: Is a MongoDB Cluster necessary at some point when you are scaling a cloud beyond 100+ Compute Nodes?20:40
shane____is it necessary to ovs-vsctl create br-ex on the compute nodes?20:40
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Sam-I-Amonly where you have br-ex, which is usually the network node20:42
Sam-I-Amunless you have the l3 agent on your compute node20:43
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pmallyaHey Guys20:52
pmallyaif I want to create a table of status codes20:52
pmallyacan I do it as such: https://gist.github.com/pratikmallya/c6725a4c371a9243e3ab20:52
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FirespiritI would like to know with a heat template if a swift resource exist that can download content on the instance at spawn time from an object container21:02
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jetoleHey guys. The timeout time for the dashboard seems too low to me. I set SESSION_TIMEOUT in /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings and I tested to verify this was valid (setting a low value and seeing it log me out quickly) but a high value doesn't seem to be affecting it and I have read this may have something to do with Keystone but I am not sure what21:42
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foo___Can anyone help me with setting qemu up for promiscuous mode?  I have a 3 node setup on vms.23:17
foo___my instances can get dhcp addresses but can't talk to the internet23:18
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