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| visualne | Does anyone know what neutron configuration file on the compute node deals with connectivity to the database | 00:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron on the compute node does not need to talk to the db | 00:06 |
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| visualne | Can anyone tell me actually "how" the ovs agent on the compute nodes gets the tunnel endpoints to setup | 00:13 |
| visualne | that has to come from the message bus right? | 00:13 |
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| visualne | thats not a mysql query or anything right? | 00:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | message queue | 00:15 |
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| visualne | dumb question, does the ovs agent running on the compute node talk to the database at all | 00:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no | 00:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | only neutron-server talks to the db | 00:24 |
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| visualne | what about keystone stuff related to the ovs agent | 00:25 |
| visualne | I only see neutron endpoints listed in the nova.conf file | 00:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystone things talk to keystone | 00:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the [keystone_authtoken] section defines where to find keystone and it goes from there | 00:30 |
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| atpa8a__ | no luck :( | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump says? | 03:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | logs say? | 03:14 |
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| atpa8a__ | nothing in the logs... doing tcpdump | 03:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you set verbose=true in the config files? | 03:26 |
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| atpa8a__ | 23:25:34.325529 fa:16:3e:85:a7:09 > ec:43:f6:fd:8f:10, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 98: 10.0.10.2 > 10.0.10.1: | 03:26 |
| atpa8a__ | ICMP echo request, id 13593, seq 2, length 64 | 03:26 |
| atpa8a__ | 23:25:34.327622 ec:43:f6:fd:8f:10 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 60: vlan 21, p 0, etherty | 03:26 |
| atpa8a__ | pe ARP, Request who-has 10.0.10.2 tell 10.0.10.1, length 42 | 03:26 |
| atpa8a__ | did i?.. checking... | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | if its doing an icmp request, it must have gotten an arp response | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | yet the icmp is going untagged | 03:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what happens in tcpdump if you try to ping something non-existant like 10.0.10.10 | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see the arp req tagged? | 03:28 |
| atpa8a__ | 23:28:36.569507 fa:16:3e:85:a7:09 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 10.0.10. | 03:29 |
| atpa8a__ | 10 tell 10.0.10.2, length 28 | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | mmm no tag there either | 03:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this on br-bond0 or bond0? | 03:29 |
| atpa8a__ | bond0 | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats on br-bond0? | 03:29 |
| atpa8a__ | note! those pings are inside netns, right? | 03:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | from within it, yet | 03:30 |
| atpa8a__ | yup | 03:30 |
| atpa8a__ | hmm | 03:31 |
| atpa8a__ | 23:31:03.242480 ec:43:f6:fd:8f:10 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 60: vlan 21, p 0, etherty | 03:31 |
| atpa8a__ | pe ARP, Request who-has 10.0.10.2 tell 10.0.10.1, length 42 | 03:31 |
| atpa8a__ | 23:31:06.241626 fa:16:3e:85:a7:09 > ec:43:f6:fd:8f:10, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 10.0.10. | 03:31 |
| atpa8a__ | 1 tell 10.0.10.2, length 28 | 03:31 |
| atpa8a__ | the other way around? | 03:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | same problem though | 03:32 |
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| atpa8a__ | strips the tags?.. | 03:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this is a good doc... | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 03:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you need to tcpdump on the packet path | 03:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | figure out whats breaking | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | all in ones really suck to troubleshoot | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | and not practical | 03:33 |
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| atpa8a__ | i'm thinking to just get back to flat... | 03:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | its also possible your nic doesnt do vlans | 03:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | or the driver | 03:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | hard to say | 03:35 |
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| atpa8a__ | i could configure bond0.21 without any problem | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 03:36 |
| atpa8a__ | hey, thanks anyway! even that flat works is a big win for me | 03:37 |
| atpa8a__ | big thanks in fact! | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | weird that vlan doesnt work... | 03:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AIOs though... | 03:37 |
| atpa8a__ | gre for external didn't work either | 03:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that makes sense though | 03:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | since... its not a tunnel | 03:38 |
| atpa8a__ | yeah | 03:38 |
| atpa8a__ | something like that | 03:38 |
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| SamYaple | atpa8a__: did you teardown everything and recreate it yesterday? | 03:39 |
| atpa8a__ | yeah | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | Just networking or the whole env? | 03:39 |
| atpa8a__ | just networking | 03:39 |
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| SamYaple | Yea I mean if you stick to a guide you should at least get networking up and running, even on an all in one. I would recreate your configs and rebuild the networking again sticking to a guide letter for letter | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | Once you see it working, it is alot easier to fix | 03:41 |
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| atpa8a__ | yeah | 03:42 |
| atpa8a__ | i got flat for external going but thought to experiment around with it | 03:43 |
| atpa8a__ | btw... even if i have flat external, i can still have multiple tenant networks/subnets, right? | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 03:44 |
| atpa8a__ | cool | 03:44 |
| atpa8a__ | even that should make my life good :) | 03:44 |
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| Grim__ | Where do i start if i wAnt to install nec neutron plugin? | 07:04 |
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| SamYaple | Grim__: you'll have to be more specifc | 07:42 |
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| cpg | hi, i am getting one line like this in the logs every two seconds: | 07:45 |
| cpg | sudo: neutron : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-int table=22 | 07:45 |
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| cpg | this is filling up the logs steadily. is that a symtom of an issue, or could this perhaps be disabled? | 07:45 |
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| SamYaple | cpg: Do you have debug turned on in the neutron.conf? | 07:53 |
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| cpg | SamYaple: no, but i see now (i did not dig into the conf files before - i was running default) that it has verbose = True | 07:54 |
| cpg | i will change that to see if it helps | 07:54 |
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| SamYaple | I would have expected dump-flows to be debug, but it may be verbose | 07:56 |
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| cpg | i changed it to false and i did systemctl restart neutron-server | 07:56 |
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| cpg | no effect. | 07:56 |
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| cpg | do i need to restart some other service? (i am new to OS) | 07:56 |
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| SamYaple | In which log are you seeing that message? | 08:00 |
| SamYaple | You would typically restart al lthe neutron services if you wanted to turn verbose off | 08:00 |
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| cpg | SamYaple: in /var/log/secure | 08:03 |
| cpg | i will restart all of them | 08:03 |
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| cpg | SamYaple: nope … still showing that message. hmm. here is what i restarted | 08:05 |
| cpg | neutron-dhcp-agent.service neutron-l3-agent.service neutron-metadata-agent.service neutron-openvswitch-agent.service neutron-server.service | 08:05 |
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| SamYaple | that /var/log/secure is just logging when you run the "sudo" command (which neutron does frequently) | 08:08 |
| SamYaple | that is your distro doing that, not openstack | 08:08 |
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| SamYaple | Although I am not sure when neutron is dumping ovs flows that often, that is a different issue | 08:09 |
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| cpg | good point | 08:12 |
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| cpg | i wonder if i can get that quelched somewhere in the sudo conf | 08:13 |
| cpg | seems entirely unnecessary to do so often | 08:13 |
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| cpg | it really clutters attack attempts to ssh, etc. | 08:13 |
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| SamYaple | Well the neutron running dump-flows that often seems wrong, but I would have t ocheck to make sure that isn't normal (I dont think it is). Without that the messages should be alot more reasonable | 08:14 |
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| cpg | i see | 08:20 |
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| gursImran | Hello all, what does 403 error during revoking a token through API means? | 11:40 |
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| rsFF | hi guys what you do when you have volumes in a zombie state? | 11:46 |
| rsFF | detaching them or force deleting them is no good... | 11:46 |
| rsFF | does not work | 11:46 |
| rsFF | what other alternatives are there? | 11:47 |
| rsFF | hacking the DB? | 11:47 |
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| SamYaple | rsFF: hacking the database is the answer here. Youll just need to do manual cleanup on the backend | 11:48 |
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| rsFF | can you point me in the right direction please | 11:51 |
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| SamYaple | In the cinder database, set the offending volumes "deleted_at=1" | 11:55 |
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| Eos_ | has anyone played with http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_use-cases-tenant-router.html and invented a configuration when external network is a private one to not waste a public IP for each tenant's router? | 12:39 |
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| SamYaple | Eos_: yes | 12:39 |
| SamYaple | double nat | 12:39 |
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| SamYaple | http://dachary.org/?p=2466 has a writeup of the basic idea | 12:40 |
| Eos_ | does it work out of the box and you can point somewhere? | 12:40 |
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| SamYaple | does not work out of the box, requires upstream network device externally managed, but hey it doesnt waste ip space | 12:40 |
| Eos_ | SamYaple: thanks! I'll check the link | 12:41 |
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| dachary | SamYaple: yes, I'm still using this hack, unfortunately. There is another much more promising approach but it's all in french at the moment : http://chiliproject.tetaneutral.net/projects/tetaneutral/wiki/Openstack_Installation_TTNN . sileht did that and it's remarkably simple. It's not resolving the fragmented IP problem specifically. But I think it makes it go away. | 12:43 |
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| Eos_ | google translate does the job: https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fchiliproject.tetaneutral.net%2Fprojects%2Ftetaneutral%2Fwiki%2FOpenstack_Installation_TTNN&edit-text= | 12:45 |
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| SamYaple | Im honestly quite happy with an upstream network device just 1:1 mapping public ips to 10.x.x.x addresses. It works out really well | 12:49 |
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| SamYaple | You can create a really large external network of 10.x.x.x and just add in public address as need upstream | 12:49 |
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| SamYaple | dachary: that is a simple approach. I like it. Im going to play around with it a bit | 12:53 |
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| mtl1 | Hi. I have 4 "instances" that my horizon interface is showing, but I can't find them anywhere else as still being there. They are all deleted, or at least should be, but are still counting against quota. There's no form of nova list that will show them. nova delete says they aren't there. Horizon only shows them in the project/overview. If I click on them, even horizon can't find them. Does anyone know where I might go to fully kill tho | 13:45 |
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| Eos_ | mtl1: you should probably check the database and maybe there delete it manually | 13:49 |
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| mtl1 | Eos_ as far as I can tell, it is deleted in the database. | 13:49 |
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| rsFF | hi SamYaple after a bit of google what i did was | 13:54 |
| rsFF | http://www.florentflament.com/blog/openstack-volume-in-use-although-vm-doesnt-exist.html | 13:54 |
| rsFF | i just updated the volumes database still scratching my head at the deleted_at=1 option | 13:54 |
| rsFF | but it is working | 13:55 |
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| Celelibi | what is havana-eol? | 13:57 |
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| dorftrottel_ | sounds like end of life | 14:02 |
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| Celelibi | I know. But it has probably nothing to do with end of line. :p | 14:03 |
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| Celelibi | Because it woulddn't make sense to get the error: ValueError: Invalid version 'havana.eol' | 14:03 |
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| dorftrottel_ | s/line/life/ | 14:04 |
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| Celelibi | Ah. | 14:04 |
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| visualne | GRE tunnels over a gig networks. VM to VM I'm seeing speeds of around 7.2KB | 14:09 |
| visualne | has anyone figured out a way to improve this | 14:09 |
| visualne | perhaps jumbo frames on the switch | 14:09 |
| atpa8a__ | hello | 14:09 |
| visualne | and increasing the size of the mtu on the compute nodes? | 14:09 |
| larsks | visualne: if you have not adjusted mtu settings either on the compute nodes or inside your instances, you probably have fragementation issues. | 14:10 |
| visualne | ya I agree | 14:10 |
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| visualne | Have you done that, have you allowed for jumbo frames on the switch? | 14:11 |
| visualne | and then increased the size of the mtu on the NIC on the compute node to match?] | 14:11 |
| larsks | visualne: I have only fiddled with the in-instance settings, and have not actually measured anything... | 14:11 |
| KyleR | visualne: have you turned GRO off on the network node? | 14:11 |
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| visualne | I dont believe I did | 14:11 |
| visualne | but thats only where the layer 3 agent lives | 14:12 |
| visualne | actually | 14:12 |
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| visualne | does that have to be turned on, everywhere | 14:12 |
| visualne | even on the compute nodes | 14:12 |
| KyleR | That helped us when network speeds were super slow; we put the following in rc.local to ensure the config is persistent 'Ethtool -K interfaceName gro off' | 14:12 |
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| KyleR | *ethtool | 14:13 |
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| visualne | I'll give that a shot, thanks guys | 14:14 |
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| gaud | I am running icehouse, trying to implement Ceph.. I always get a "Block Device Mapping is Invalid." error message.. | 14:24 |
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| atpa8a__ | Sam-I-Am, you here? | 14:38 |
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| dotplus | if I perform an action in horizon, is there a way for me to have it show me what the command line version of that command would be? | 14:38 |
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| atpa8a__ | Sam-I-Am, in the juno neutron docs you have bridge_mapping = external:br-ex... bridge_mapping singular... should it be plural? | 14:39 |
| atpa8a__ | or is it different for flat?.. | 14:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a__: plural | 14:43 |
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| atpa8a__ | thanks | 14:43 |
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| tutj7 | hi guys, do you have any recommend to get familiar with CEPH | 14:44 |
| atpa8a__ | can one have more then one flat external networks?.. if there's a bridge for each one of them? | 14:44 |
| atpa8a__ | Sam-I-Am, do you want a ticket for the typo in the docs? | 14:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a__: there has to be one bridge per flat network | 14:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a__: wheres the typo? | 14:45 |
| atpa8a__ | in the docs it's singular | 14:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which doc? | 14:45 |
| atpa8a__ | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-network-node.html | 14:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | oddly, that works | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | someone's doc is wrong | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | time to consult the code | 14:46 |
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| atpa8a__ | i'm making one bridge per flat network but confused with external_network_bridge parameter in l3_agent.ini | 14:47 |
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| atpa8a__ | (making bridges on manually configured vlan interfaces) | 14:48 |
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| atpa8a__ | Sam-I-Am, either the doc above or http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-openvswitch_agent.html needs to be fixed it seems | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like it needs the "s" ... i'll just fix it. | 14:51 |
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| atpa8a__ | but it did work! :) i can confirm! | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | with the s? | 14:54 |
| atpa8a__ | without | 14:55 |
| atpa8a__ | trying with the s now | 14:55 |
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| atpa8a__ | but may be that's why i needed external_network_bridge in l3_agent.ini | 14:56 |
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| atpa8a__ | commenting out external_network_bridge and going to try in a sec | 14:56 |
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| atpa8a__ | no... having bridge_mapping*s* doesn't help with l3 agent complaining that external_network_bridge is not set... | 15:12 |
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| atpa8a__ | hmm | 15:16 |
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| atpa8a__ | but if one leaves external_network_bridge with an empty value... then l3 does *not* complain about br-ex | 15:19 |
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| atpa8a__ | interesting... | 15:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | by default, the external network bridge is br-ex | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you use something else, you'll have to change it | 15:25 |
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| DHE | A volume snapshot turned into a volume has no dependency on the snapshot. Is this correct? | 15:27 |
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| atpa8a__ | Sam-I-Am, l3 does not complain if you don't put anything after the = | 15:30 |
| atpa8a__ | i'll try :) trying to make 2 flat external networks | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | iirc, you need one l3 agent per external network | 15:31 |
| atpa8a__ | hmm | 15:31 |
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| atpa8a__ | so my attempt is futile?.. | 15:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | you could run more l3 agents | 15:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | and change the bridge they use | 15:32 |
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| atpa8a__ | with packages?.. or i'd need to use devstack or something?.. | 15:33 |
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| telemonster | w0rd atpa8a__ | 15:39 |
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| atpa8a__ | doesn't hurt to try... | 15:41 |
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| larsks | atpa8a__: Sam-I-Am: You can run multiple external networks with a single l3 agent. I'm running 3. It's a little under documented. | 15:49 |
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| larsks | I wrote about it back in may: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/05/28/multiple-external-networks-wit/ | 15:49 |
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| atpa8a__ | larsks, interesting... i'm doing something similar | 15:51 |
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| larsks | atpa8a__: So, not futile :) | 15:52 |
| atpa8a__ | Following those instructions, make sure that both external_network_bridge and gateway_external_network_id are unset in l3_agent.ini. | 15:52 |
| atpa8a__ | meaning they're there but don't have the value, right? | 15:52 |
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| atpa8a__ | if they're commented out, l3 will try to use the default br-ex | 15:52 |
| larsks | I have the explicitly set to empty, yes. | 15:53 |
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| atpa8a__ | empty as "" or just nothing after the equals sign? | 15:53 |
| larsks | The latter. | 15:53 |
| atpa8a__ | cool | 15:53 |
| atpa8a__ | thanks | 15:53 |
| atpa8a__ | trying further :) | 15:54 |
| atpa8a__ | was going along the same lines... | 15:55 |
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| atpa8a__ | woohoo!!! | 15:59 |
| atpa8a__ | seems to work! | 15:59 |
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| atpa8a__ | interesting... | 16:00 |
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| atpa8a__ | i can ping the first ip in the allocation_pool in each external network | 16:00 |
| atpa8a__ | after i created the routers that is | 16:00 |
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| atpa8a__ | but not the first ip in tenant networks | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats always good | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | you shouldnt be able to do that | 16:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because the tenant networks are behind snat | 16:01 |
| atpa8a__ | nice!!! | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'd need to use floating ips | 16:01 |
| atpa8a__ | yup | 16:01 |
| atpa8a__ | let's try to start a couple of instances | 16:01 |
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| atpa8a__ | woohoo!!!!! | 16:32 |
| atpa8a__ | can ping both instances in each network! | 16:32 |
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| atpa8a__ | nice! | 16:33 |
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| atpa8a__ | thanks Sam-I-Am, larsks! | 16:33 |
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| larsks | atpa8a__: \o/ | 16:34 |
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| atpa8a__ | party!!! :) | 16:35 |
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| atpa8a__ | is there any way to have instances start when the box starts? | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure about that one | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | how often does it go down? | 16:36 |
| atpa8a__ | not often, and not really a problem | 16:37 |
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| atpa8a__ | just thought may be i missed something in the docs | 16:37 |
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| KyleR | You could probably set the instances to autostart using virsh from the compute node | 16:37 |
| KyleR | on which they reside | 16:37 |
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| atpa8a__ | prolly... will see when i migrated all my old kvm stuff to openstack and have some time to mess around :) | 16:38 |
| KyleR | virsh list --all to get the instance name(s), then 'virsh autostart instanceName' | 16:38 |
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| atpa8a__ | KyleR, i see at least some problems with that... may be not... | 16:39 |
| atpa8a__ | when virsh will start instances, is neutron ready?.. | 16:39 |
| KyleR | If you migrate the instance, that would likely be a problem lol | 16:39 |
| KyleR | Hmm | 16:39 |
| KyleR | Not sure. | 16:39 |
| sgran | KyleR: no, don't do that :) | 16:40 |
| atpa8a__ | it's ok :) i don't have many instances, i can start them manually if needs be | 16:40 |
| sgran | there's an option to nova compute to do it | 16:40 |
| sgran | messing around behind nova's back usually makes things go wrong | 16:40 |
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| atpa8a__ | sgran, is there?.. | 16:40 |
| KyleR | sgran what is the nova way? | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think its an api option | 16:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | something like "restore state" | 16:40 |
| atpa8a__ | hmm | 16:41 |
| atpa8a__ | looking... | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not something you can find in the web interfaces | 16:41 |
| sgran | resume_guests_state_on_host_boot = True | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that thing | 16:41 |
| sgran | no, it's not an api option, it's a setting in nova.conf on the compute hosts | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah ok | 16:41 |
| KyleR | Nice! | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i knew it was somewhere | 16:41 |
| KyleR | Thanks for that information | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i thought you could do it one-off via the api though | 16:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming it was enabled in nova.conf | 16:42 |
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| sgran | it defaults to False | 16:42 |
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| KyleR | Yeah | 16:42 |
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| sgran | and no, there's no way via the api | 16:42 |
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| sgran | there are blueprints about selective recovery, but I don't know how far they are | 16:43 |
| KyleR | I'm curious to see if enabling that setting will mark the instance as autostarted in virt-manager? hmm | 16:43 |
| sgran | no, it won't | 16:43 |
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| sgran | it just makes the compute host start them when it starts up | 16:43 |
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| KyleR | Oh okay. Cool. | 16:45 |
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| atpa8a__ | this is beautiful!!! | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 16:50 |
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| user_42 | Hi! I'm trying to create an ubuntu 8.04 instance on icehouse from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/hardy/ and the instance gets created (status running). When looking at the console I see "Boot failed: not a bootable disk". Somehow the hardy-server-cloudimg-amd64.img is different than that of newer ubuntu version (f.e. trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img). Anybody knows what to do? | 17:09 |
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| pcn | Anyone use the python keystone bindings? | 18:05 |
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| pcn | I'm trying to figure out how i'm supposed to get a token with the API - most of the docs just seem to point to constructing requests to /v<whatever>/tokens | 18:06 |
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| pcn | Should I just be importing requests and ignore the python-keystoneclient? | 18:07 |
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| pcn | Or put another way, has anyone ever thought of bringing any part of the openstack api docs to be on-par with e.g. boto? | 18:33 |
| pcn | s/docs/docstrings | 18:33 |
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| annegent_ | pcn: sorry, I missed the first part of your question. Can you ask again? | 18:39 |
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| larsks | pcn: this might help: https://github.com/larsks/openstack-api-samples | 18:50 |
| larsks | It's a collection of very, very minimal api examples. | 18:50 |
| larsks | pcn: And if you are refering to the state of the pydoc documenation for the python modules...yeah, it is pretty awful. | 18:51 |
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| pcn | larsks: thanks for the example. when I use the keystone client as you do, I get None for the token. | 19:08 |
| pcn | I don't see it passed back by keystone when I ngrep the connection. | 19:08 |
| pcn | I need to run now, but it's definitely in poor shape. | 19:09 |
| larsks | pcn: okay. I had some questions for you, and I think we can probably solve this... | 19:09 |
| larsks | That code as written works just fine locally. | 19:09 |
| larsks | ...which suggests either environment or configuration issues. | 19:09 |
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| larsks | Oh well. Good luck... | 19:10 |
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| shashankhegde | Hi, I have been trying to use OpenStack and I keep running into an issue where some of the VMs do not boot up | 19:20 |
| shashankhegde | They are stuck in "Booting from ROM" | 19:20 |
| shashankhegde | I was wondering if anyone else has come across this | 19:20 |
| shashankhegde | And if there is any fix for it | 19:20 |
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| shashankhegde | The hypervisors are running Ubuntu 14.04 | 19:21 |
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| larsks | shashankhegde: I haven't seen that before. If you are seeing the "Booting from ROM" message on the vm console, then it's no longer an openstack problem, probably (because the vm has started booting). It may indicate a problem with the image you're trying to boot. | 19:22 |
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| shashankhegde | Hmmm... I am starting 5 VMs and out of which one usually fails :/ | 19:23 |
| larsks | Are the errors consisent? That is, if a vm fails to boot will it *always* fail to boot after that? | 19:23 |
| larsks | Or can you reboot it and have it successful at some point? | 19:23 |
| shashankhegde | larsks, It does work once in a while | 19:24 |
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| KyleR | 5 VMs using the same image? | 19:25 |
| shashankhegde | Yep | 19:25 |
| KyleR | Weird. Which image, out of curiosity? | 19:25 |
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| shashankhegde | Its the default Cirros image that is bundled with devstack | 19:27 |
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| atpa8a__ | hmm | 19:30 |
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| atpa8a__ | btw... can i do something like usb or pci passthru with openstack? | 19:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a__: openstack isnt a regular virt environment | 19:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | while kvm can do it, there's no reason for it in production | 19:34 |
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| atpa8a__ | true that | 19:34 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: well...maybe. A few years back we were looking at whether it would be possible to provide openstack instances with access to GPGPU devices via PCI passthrough... | 19:35 |
| larsks | ...never pursued it very far, though. | 19:36 |
| larsks | atpa8a__: you should probably look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Pci_passthrough | 19:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | larsks: that could be useful | 19:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | but usb not so much | 19:36 |
| KyleR | shashankhegde: I'd try another image to see if you can replicate the errors. | 19:36 |
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| shashankhegde | KyleR: Yeah, let me give that a try. Thanks! | 19:37 |
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| atpa8a__ | larsks, nice! | 19:42 |
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| atpa8a__ | so that's in icehouse?.. | 19:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | larsks: interesting that neutron juno defaults auth_strategy=keystone, but the rdo m3 packages somehow changed it back to noauth | 19:45 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: On my F20/RDO system, auth_strategy=keystone. | 19:48 |
| larsks | Just installed this morning... | 19:48 |
| larsks | ...although I guess there is some chance that was configured via the packstack install and does not represent what the package installed with. | 19:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i get this feeling that someone fixes all the rdo package problems in packstack | 19:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this is a stock non-packstack installed | 19:49 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: Verified, yeah, packstack sets that explicitly. | 19:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | the config file in /etc/neutron seems correct, but i seem to remember that rdo packages also reference some stock config file in /usr/lib or somesuch | 19:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | i forget | 19:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | and that file is probably broken | 19:50 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: /usr/bin/neutron-server --config-file /usr/share/neutron/neutron-dist.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugin.ini | 19:50 |
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| larsks | It is set to noauth in the -dist file, but the file in /etc/neutron should take precedence. | 19:51 |
| larsks | I don't know why that is the default there, though. | 19:51 |
| larsks | Also, I don't know exactly what auth_strategy controls. Got any links? Search results seem poor. | 19:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it controls whether a service uses keystone or something else for authn | 19:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for a long time it defaulted do nothing | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | to | 19:52 |
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| larsks | What are the implications of auth_strategy=noauth? | 19:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron tries to do things without auth tokens | 19:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | and breaks for things like net-create | 19:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | or it'll create stuff, but the stuff doesn't work | 19:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this error appears: Running without keystone AuthN requires that tenant_id is specified | 19:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can specify the tenant id, but that doesnt fix the underlying problem | 19:55 |
| larsks | Interesring. Thanks. | 19:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight, time to roll out | 19:58 |
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| snowgust | Hi! Has anyone tried to use neutron's lbaas while using GRE tunnels and a custom MTU on the dhcp agent? | 19:59 |
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| snowgust | I noticed that lbaas basically ignores DHCP options and ends up with a different MTU on the network interfaces than the instances | 20:00 |
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| larsks | snowgust: I think it's more accurate to say that lbaas does not *use* dhcp. The addresses are assigned to host interfaces by neutron. | 20:07 |
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| snowgust | larsks: should I file this as a bug? I think you'd expect the lbaas interfaces to use the same mtu as other hosts on its subnet. | 20:08 |
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| snowgust | larsks: and is there any elegant way to manually set lbaas mtus? Other than manually looping into each namespace and setting it manually | 20:09 |
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| larsks | snowgust: Thinking...I mean, the lbaas is hosted on the network host, which means it does not need to traverse the vxlan/gre tunnels that the instances do...so would it have the same mtu requirements? | 20:09 |
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| larsks | snowgust: I guess my answer is, "if it's causing problems, file a bug report" :) | 20:09 |
| htrmeira | snowgust: here it is as configured on /etc/neutron/dnsmasq-neutron.conf | 20:09 |
| larsks | snowgust: I don't think there's any way to set mtu for the load balancer service. I was grepping through the python services for "mtu"... | 20:10 |
| snowgust | larsks: It does send packets to the instances... so yes, it does cause problems. Packets larger than the instance's configured MTU get dropped when they arrive on them | 20:10 |
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| larsks | snowgust: That sounds like a bug, then. | 20:10 |
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| snowgust | larsks: I've just run into an issue where some web pages were working through my lbaas and others weren't... they just seemed to be stuck waiting for a reply | 20:11 |
| snowgust | htrmeira: that setting only works for setting the instance's MTU, not lbaas, unfortunately | 20:12 |
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| larsks | snowgust: does manually setting the mtu fix the problem? | 20:13 |
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| snowgust | larsks: yeah... at least until the lbaas agent has to recreate its interfaces | 20:15 |
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| snowgust | larsks: so if I reboot the neutron node the settings are lost | 20:15 |
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| larsks | snowgust: sure. I was just curious if setting the mtu positively addressed the problem. | 20:16 |
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| snowgust | larsks: yes, it did :) I'll open a bug report then | 20:17 |
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| atpa8a__ | hehe | 21:54 |
| atpa8a__ | Network topology looks funny with multiple networks :) | 21:55 |
| MilesDenver | I'll bet it does. | 21:55 |
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| atpa8a__ | interesting... if you delete an image made with --copy-from in glance before it finishes downloading, it still continues the download | 22:17 |
| atpa8a__ | but deletes it after the download is finished | 22:17 |
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| Joe_knock | Sam-I-Am: Do you work for rackspace? | 22:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Joe_knock: yes | 22:59 |
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| Joe_knock | There's a steep learning curve in order to contribute as an individual, Sam-I-Am | 22:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what do you mean? | 22:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack has a pretty steep learning curve in general | 23:00 |
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| Joe_knock | Sam-I-Am: I've been wanting to contribute through analyzing documentation, etc. but just having the ability to make Pull Requests is complex. | 23:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for documentation or code? | 23:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | the tool chain is a bit difficult at first, but it gets better | 23:03 |
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| Joe_knock | Why did you guys choose not to use github/bitbucket/some-code-host? | 23:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | for openstack itself? | 23:05 |
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| Joe_knock | Yep. | 23:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can see openstack code on github, but gerrit sort of replaces the standard pull request logic | 23:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is just too big not to have a review system | 23:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | and CI | 23:07 |
| Joe_knock | isn't the openstack repo just a tracker on github? | 23:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | gerrit/jenkins | 23:07 |
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| Joe_knock | Like formal reviews? | 23:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | CI is also a big deal | 23:11 |
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| KyleR | Hey guys. Interesting issue when adding a VIP to my load balancer to my otherwise functional Icehouse environment: according to documentation, a private IP should be assigned first; however I'm prompted to choose an IP from my external IP range. Thoughts? | 23:11 |
| KyleR | Also, the VIP is in error state currently. | 23:12 |
| Joe_knock | Sam-I-Am: Can I rightly say that openstack is not geared towards individual contributors and is more an enterprise type project? | 23:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was an individual contributor for about 7 months until rackspace | 23:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | most of my work is still on my own | 23:13 |
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| KyleR | Sam-I-Am, when adding a VIP through Horizon, one of the drop downs ('VIP Addresses from Floating IPs') is listed as 'Not Currently Supported. Is this by design or a configuration issue on my end? | 23:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i gotta run | 23:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | bbl | 23:24 |
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| KyleR | No worries. | 23:25 |
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| KyleR | How the LBAAS configuration changed for Icehouse? I've only been able to find documentation for Havana | 23:32 |
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| KyleR | Has* | 23:32 |
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| KyleR | Weird. My load balancer now has both public/priviate IPs assigned to the VIP, but I'm still getting an ERROR in the output from 'neutron lb-vip-list' | 23:57 |
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