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| jroberts235 | I am trying to attach another IP to a VM with a single NIC (eth0:1). I can create the interface but can’t ping it, I assume it’s the security-group rules blocking it. Is it possible to do this? I am running Havan using Neutron. | 00:54 |
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| jroberts235 | this works: --nic net-id=e24679b6-3e8e-4ced-be64-fad6a9de945e --nic net-id=884014ab-20e0-4cf7-9471-884dd41b17dd, but I’d like to find out why the doing it at the OS is failing. Any help is appreciated. | 00:58 |
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| jroberts235 | actually the second method does not work for my use case. I need virtual nic so that they I can assing VIP on the same subnet to one NIC. | 01:04 |
| jroberts235 | I guess I should say, that I am trying to do this on a VM which is running HaProxy. I am not using the openstack LB? Maybe I should | 01:05 |
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| keshavdv1 | can somebody help explain the network setup required by neutron for gre tunnels as well as the initial network/subnet/router creation after setting up neutron? | 01:06 |
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| vidalinux | keshavdv1, using packstack or devstack? | 01:08 |
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| keshavdv1 | vidalinux: either, as well as by hand | 01:22 |
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| keshavdv1 | i need some help with physical configuration (how many nics does it expect, ip addresses) for the hosts, and help with creating valid networks and subnets using neutron's cli | 01:23 |
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| kype | Hi guys, when you do a swift update. Does it get pushed to all 3 primary locations as well, or only pushed to one location and then the replicator takes care of updating the replicates? | 02:00 |
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| Urbanmyth | I need some advice on setting up neutron. I'm setting up a dev env at home with two gigabyte brix (controller & compute nodes). They come with 1 gig ether and wireless. I have the ether on my internal network and the wireless setup as ad-hoc batman-adv mesh. I want to setup neutron on my controller node and that's where I would like advice. | 03:42 |
| Urbanmyth | Neutron needs a mangement, instance, and external. I was going to have neutron use the ether as mgmt, the wireless as the instance, and create eth0:1 for the external. Does this sound good? | 03:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is eth0 the wired interface? | 03:43 |
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| Urbanmyth | Yes | 03:43 |
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| Urbanmyth | I can create vlans on the switch if that helps. | 03:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in that case, couldnt you run everything over the wired? | 03:44 |
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| Urbanmyth | Not sure. Hmmm .. so share the eth0 and use vlans? | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | wireless interfaces sometimes act weird doing things that arent normal | 03:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for example, you cant bridge over them, unless you use wds | 03:49 |
| Urbanmyth | I'll give that a try. So setup eth0(managed), eth0:1(instance) & eth0:2(external)? | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | with vlans it would be eth0 eth0.2 and eth0.3 or so | 03:49 |
| mensor | hey all...I've tried so many combinations for network settings with devstack and I'm still not able to get devstack to fully load | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | colons are for ip aliases | 03:49 |
| mensor | can someone help me figure out what the network/gateway/fixed_range/public gateway/etc would need to be with my network configuration? | 03:50 |
| Urbanmyth | Ahh .. gotcha. Going to give that a try tonight then. | 03:50 |
| mensor | I have ubuntu 14.04 | 03:51 |
| mensor | wireless network | 03:52 |
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| Urbanmyth | mensor: ifconfig wlan0 give you any info? | 03:52 |
| mensor | yes | 03:52 |
| mensor | I'm not very good with networking | 03:52 |
| mensor | which is probably my problem | 03:52 |
| mensor | I've got a local IP | 03:53 |
| mensor | do I need to explicitly state wlan0 as my "FIXED_INTERFACE"? | 03:53 |
| mensor | also, what is the difference between "PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY" and "NETWORK_GATEWAY"? | 03:54 |
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| Urbanmyth | Hmmm ... no ether? Usually that would be your external interface I think. PUBLIC I think is the gateway for ext outside your network. | 03:55 |
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| mensor | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 12:ff:a5:c0:4f:1f | 03:56 |
| mensor | UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 03:56 |
| mensor | RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 03:56 |
| mensor | TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 03:56 |
| mensor | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 03:56 |
| mensor | RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) | 03:56 |
| mensor | is eth0 | 03:56 |
| mensor | not sure what all that means though | 03:56 |
| Urbanmyth | can you use a wired setup instead of wireless? | 03:57 |
| mensor | I don't have access to the router :-( | 03:58 |
| mensor | my wlan0 has the IP onit | 03:58 |
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| mensor | I know the IP for my computer, the gateway of the router | 03:58 |
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| mensor | the gateway of the public router | 03:59 |
| mensor | HOST_IP=127.0.0.1 | 03:59 |
| mensor | FLOATING_RANGE=10.0.0.100/24 | 03:59 |
| mensor | PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 | 03:59 |
| mensor | NETWORK_GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 | 03:59 |
| mensor | FIXED_RANGE=10.0.0.100/24 | 03:59 |
| mensor | FIXED_NETWORK_SIZE=256 | 03:59 |
| mensor | FLAT_INTERFACE=wlan0 | 03:59 |
| mensor | that's what I have in local.conf | 03:59 |
| vidalinux | anyone know how do I access internal ips in intances from my external networks? | 03:59 |
| mensor | (among passwords, branches, cinder config, etc) | 03:59 |
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| Urbanmyth | mensor: Substitute the HOST_IP you have there with what your wlan0 has. 127.0.0.1 is your localhost | 04:00 |
| mensor | let me try that | 04:01 |
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| mensor | Failure retrieving TENANT_ID for demo | 04:08 |
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| mensor | during "create_neutron_initial_network" | 04:08 |
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| mensor | that looks like it cascades | 04:08 |
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| Urbanmyth | Hmm .. not sure what else to try without taking a look at the devstack script. It's been a while. | 04:10 |
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| mensor | can you help me identify what the variables mean? | 04:12 |
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| mensor | HOST_IP=10.0.0.22 #I've got this one | 04:13 |
| mensor | FLOATING_RANGE=10.0.0.100/24 # Not sure what this is | 04:13 |
| mensor | PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 # is this the router gateway or the public router IP? | 04:13 |
| mensor | NETWORK_GATEWAY=10.0.1.1 # what is this? | 04:13 |
| mensor | FIXED_RANGE=10.0.1.100/24 # what is this? | 04:13 |
| mensor | FIXED_NETWORK_SIZE=256 # not sure what this is? | 04:13 |
| mensor | FLAT_INTERFACE=wlan0 | 04:13 |
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| mensor | I also don't understand the /24...I thought that meant 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.124, but I don't think that's true | 04:14 |
| Urbanmyth | FLOATING_RANGE I think are the IPs assigned to the instances. NETWORK_GATEWAY is for your local network. | 04:15 |
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| Urbanmyth | the /24 is the same as a netmask of 255.255.255.0 ... 10.1.1.0 - 10.1.1.255 | 04:16 |
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| mensor | makes sense | 04:17 |
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| Urbanmyth | I guess your public gateway can be the same as your local gateway. Or comment it out. | 04:21 |
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| mensor | Invalid input for operation: IP address 10.0.0.1 is not a valid IP for the defined subnet. | 04:23 |
| mensor | I'll try commenting out | 04:23 |
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| Urbanmyth | Try FIXED_RANGE=10.0.100.0/24 | 04:25 |
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| mensor | yeah, still failing | 04:29 |
| mensor | I'm going to give up for now | 04:29 |
| mensor | maybe openstack isn't for me | 04:29 |
| mensor | thanks for your help, I appreciate it | 04:29 |
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| kype | Anyone know what is the "shred" option on Cinder volume_clear? | 05:12 |
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| eskp | hey guys, i'd like to list all the hosts in an aggregate and their available cpus. | 05:26 |
| jidar_ | I'd assume it's a secure delete of some sort | 05:26 |
| eskp | i've got some code here but it looks pretty bad | 05:26 |
| eskp | any easy way to do that? | 05:26 |
| jidar_ | sounds production ready to me! | 05:26 |
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| vishvendra | Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 06:03 |
| vishvendra | how to resolve it? | 06:03 |
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| Rajbir_ | Hi All, | 06:27 |
| Rajbir_ | I've a query | 06:27 |
| Rajbir_ | I have installed openstack icehouse | 06:27 |
| Rajbir_ | I'm using neutron for networking | 06:28 |
| Rajbir_ | But the secondary IP's are not working | 06:28 |
| Rajbir_ | any idea ? | 06:28 |
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| vishvendra | "Unexpected vif_type=%s" | 06:32 |
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| gnstack | hi Everyone | 06:56 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | good morning guys | 07:34 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | i still fight with the snat translation from private ip into public adress. if i ping from my VMs e.g. google ihave the following. 09:33:40.201566 IP 10.0.47.3 > google-public-dns-a.google.com: ICMP echo request, id 11312, seq 1, length 64 | 07:35 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | so google will answer to 10.0.47.3 | 07:36 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | we manually added SNAT Rule now it works | 07:46 |
| giorgiodinapoli | what can be the problem | 07:46 |
| giorgiodinapoli | if we do add: Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) | 07:47 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | SNAT all -- 10.0.47.3 anywhere to:ourip it works! | 07:47 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | i think: this whole block: Chain nova-network-float-snat (1 references) <--- is never be regarded | 07:47 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | nova-network-float-snat 0 packtes total | 07:56 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | has any one an idea, why this rules are ommitted | 07:56 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | actually this is 100% my problem: | 08:09 |
| giorgiodinapoli | https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg17025.html | 08:09 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | i cannot belive that im the only guy having this probklem | 08:12 |
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| sgran | can you run iptables-save -c before and after manually adding the rule | 08:15 |
| sgran | your output tries to do dns resolution and is missing packet counters and so on. | 08:15 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran i saved the rules. | 08:24 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, if i add manually the rule it works. | 08:24 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, the problkem is that the complete Chain nova-network-float-snat is never been used! | 08:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | Chain nova-network-snat (1 references) | 08:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination | 08:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | 113 7359 nova-network-float-snat all -- any any anywhere anywhere | 08:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | 113 packets go in | 08:25 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | but in this rule: | 08:25 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | Chain nova-network-float-snat (1 references) | 08:26 |
| giorgiodinapoli | pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination | 08:26 |
| giorgiodinapoli | 0 0 SNAT all -- any any 10.0.47.2 10.0.47.2 to:"floatingip" | 08:26 |
| giorgiodinapoli | all empty | 08:26 |
| sgran | that's because no packets have matched source=10.0.47.2 and destination=10.0.47.2 | 08:26 |
| giorgiodinapoli | 0 0 SNAT all -- any eth0 10.0.47.2 anywhere to:floating ip | 08:27 |
| giorgiodinapoli | then this should have been hitted | 08:27 |
| giorgiodinapoli | 2nd rule there | 08:27 |
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| Rajbir_ | Hi, | 08:34 |
| Rajbir_ | I have installed OpenStack icehouse with Neutron but I'm having trouble to get the secondary IP's working | 08:35 |
| Rajbir_ | any idea what it could be | 08:35 |
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| sgran | giorgiodinapoli: no, it shouldn't | 08:36 |
| sgran | 10.0.47.3 != 10.0.47.2 | 08:36 |
| mkulke | hello there, i have a problem understanding the concept of public network in an openstack (nova-network) setup. i understand it is supposed to be public in a sense that it's a range whitin the corporate network (for a private cloud). am i right? | 08:36 |
| mkulke | because then i run into issues with dhcp servers running on the corporate network | 08:37 |
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| sgran | the 'public' openstack lan doesn't have dhcp | 08:39 |
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| mkulke | fuel does complain | 08:40 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, okay you're right, but theres the same rule for 10.0.47.3 | 08:41 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, i just didnt want to paste all rules here. | 08:41 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, so why isnt the 10.0.47.3 rule been hitted? i have no explanation for this | 08:42 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | if we add manually in the postrouting: 2 168 SNAT all -- any any 10.0.47.3 anywhere to:ourip, as you can the "2" it works | 08:43 |
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| sgran | giorgiodinapoli: run iptables-save -c and put the whole thing in a pastebin somewhere | 08:43 |
| sgran | I can't guess what's wrong | 08:43 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, ok i do | 08:44 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | http://apaste.info/kHp | 08:45 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, with line 48 it works. | 08:46 |
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| sgran | giorgiodinapoli: so, you seem to reference eth0, virbr0 and br100 | 08:47 |
| sgran | the rule set up by openstack only matches on eth0 | 08:47 |
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| sgran | you probably want to change eth0 to be whatever the actual interface is | 08:48 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, eth0 is the public interface, yes | 08:49 |
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| sgran | I don't think that's true | 08:50 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, why ?^^ | 08:50 |
| sgran | because it would match :) | 08:51 |
| giorgiodinapoli | NO IT DOESNT | 08:51 |
| sgran | the difference between your rule and the openstack rule is that the openstack rule says 'on eth0' | 08:51 |
| sgran | yours doesn't | 08:51 |
| giorgiodinapoli | okay i change the openstack rule to any | 08:51 |
| sgran | so, if the traffic egressed on eth0, the openstack rule would match | 08:51 |
| giorgiodinapoli | then we will see | 08:51 |
| sgran | no, listen | 08:51 |
| sgran | change your rule | 08:51 |
| sgran | add a log rule above it | 08:51 |
| giorgiodinapoli | i have only 1 nic | 08:51 |
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| sgran | see what interface the kernel sees it leave on | 08:52 |
| sgran | sure, it might be a virtual bridge, though | 08:52 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, how can i see the leaving interface :/ | 08:54 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, i changed to eth0, and you're right its not matching anymore | 08:54 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | but if i do thpdump -i eth0 i can see the traffic passing by !! | 08:55 |
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| sgran | giorgiodinapoli: add a log line. Look at your logs. The interface will be logged | 08:56 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, adding logline .. | 08:58 |
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| mkulke | sgran: do you think i can safely ignore the network warnings then (since the nics assigned to the public interface will never offer dhcp)? | 09:00 |
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| nacer | hi there | 09:01 |
| nacer | do you know where i can get a Centos 6.5 image for openstack ? | 09:01 |
| mkulke | search for cloud image | 09:02 |
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| mkulke | qcow2 ec2 | 09:03 |
| nacer | ok tks | 09:03 |
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| nacer | found it | 09:03 |
| nacer | tks again | 09:03 |
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| nacer | mkulke: grrr centos wiki redirect to aws market, no link for download | 09:05 |
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| dmellado | there should be at least one image | 09:07 |
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| dmellado | let me check it for you\ | 09:07 |
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| dmellado | http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/guest-images/ | 09:07 |
| dmellado | there you got | 09:07 |
| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, not beeing hitted at all :(? 0 0 LOG all -- any any 10.0.47.3 anywhere LOG level debug | 09:07 |
| nacer | dmellado: tks | 09:08 |
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| dmellado | np nacer | 09:08 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, i created the icmp dump line via tcpdump -i eth0 so it has to be that interface!! | 09:11 |
| giorgiodinapoli | or? | 09:11 |
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| sgran | iptables -I nova-network-float-snat -s 10.0.47.3 -j LOG | 09:16 |
| sgran | then look at your logs | 09:16 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, | 09:21 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | IN= OUT=br100 PHYSIN=vnet1 SRC=10.0.47.3 DST=193.99.144.80 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=2492 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=2238 SEQ=1 | 09:21 |
| sgran | so, out=br100 | 09:23 |
| sgran | where you have eth0 in your nova.conf, you need br100, I suspect | 09:23 |
| giorgiodinapoli | public_interface=eth0 | 09:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | vlan_interface=eth0 | 09:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | flat_network_bridge=br100 | 09:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | flat_interface=eth0 | 09:25 |
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| mkulke | nacer: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/guest-images/ | 09:28 |
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| sgran | giorgiodinapoli: sorry, I don't really know nova-network | 09:28 |
| sgran | you're on your own for picking the right knob to tweak :) | 09:29 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, okay :=== but you really helped me a lot, thankl you very much!!! | 09:33 |
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| sgran | glad to help :) | 09:33 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, after i change the interface, how can i recreate all those rules | 09:39 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | public_interface=br100 <--- service nova-restart. all done working | 09:42 |
| giorgiodinapoli | thx | 09:42 |
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| sgran | great | 09:43 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | sgran, but at least i learned a whole bunch of things now :D | 09:53 |
| sgran | even better :) | 09:53 |
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| npr | hello i m new to open source and wanna contibute to it.while searchin for projects i find openstack very interesting ..i m btech cs student ...can any one help me with getting started ? | 10:48 |
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| jokke_ | npr: welcome | 10:49 |
| jokke_ | npr: I'd start by looking individual projects within OpenStack and pick something that genuinely interests you | 10:50 |
| jokke_ | I'm pretty sure that any of the projects will happily take any hands on board | 10:50 |
| jokke_ | npr: also if you're interested more of the coding side than translations, documentation etc. there is #openstack-dev and I think pretty much every project has #openstack-<project> | 10:51 |
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| npr | jokke_ : invisual projects ?? | 10:52 |
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| Ile | openstack constists of different components (projects) | 10:52 |
| Ile | e.g. keystone, nova, glance | 10:52 |
| npr | thanx | 10:53 |
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| jokke_ | npr: this could be use for you: http://opensource.com/business/14/2/openstack-beginners-guide | 10:55 |
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| karimb | hi buddies | 12:20 |
| karimb | is it possible to run the novnc service behing a mod_proxy enabled apache host ? | 12:20 |
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| Ile | not openstack related, but does anybody have a oneplus one invite? | 12:22 |
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| tomixxx7 | hi, can someone tell me what each of the following openstack-service-abbreviation stands for: n-cpu,n-net,n-api,c-sch,c-api,c-vol (source: http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html) | 12:43 |
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| seanmcg | tomixxx7, n for nova, c for cinder | 12:46 |
| seanmcg | see http://devstack.org/stackrc.html under 'ENABLED_SERVICES' | 12:47 |
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| tomixxx7 | yeah, and cpu = computing, net = networking, api for api commands, but what is c-sch? | 12:47 |
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| tomixxx7 | c-vol = cinder-volume | 12:48 |
| mmitchell | cinder scheduler? | 12:48 |
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| mmitchell | c-api would be cinder api | 12:49 |
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| seanmcg | tomixxx7, yes schedule | 12:50 |
| tomixxx7 | ok ty guys | 12:50 |
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| eflynn | how do you provide dns to your instances? | 13:07 |
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| thmzz | Hello, Is it possible to host a compute node through virtualbox. This is only for development pourposes | 13:36 |
| nacer | mkulke: this c entos image don't seem so resize on boot, volume = 50G FS=15G | 13:37 |
| nacer | *to | 13:37 |
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| Chocobo | Hi all. I have encountered something interesting. I had a windows VM get stuck in a boot loop. When I inspected the overlay disk file it was 16TB! The VM only has a 40GB disk. Any idea what could have caused of the overlay to grow out of control over several months? | 13:40 |
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| larsks | thmzz: sure, you can use a virtual machine as a compute node. This is pretty common for development environments. | 13:52 |
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| thmzz | larsks: thnx:) | 13:56 |
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| sts | hello folks. is there a way to specify the region for a user in keystone and not have him do so manually? | 13:59 |
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| nunne | I'm about to setup my first openstack cluster (small one at that). and I would like some input on my setup. I will have 2server running as controllers (and basically running everything, except the compute). and then 2 compute nodes (that should replicate each other/failover eachother). They will have nonshared direct storage attached to them (my ratio for | 14:03 |
| nunne | cpu, ram and storage is pretty fixed). Is this a "good" setup? is there any good ways for openstack to have HA between two compute nodes with direct nonshared storage (both will have exact same setup, ofcourse). | 14:03 |
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| mkulke | hello, has anyone experience in deploying docker-containers with nova? | 14:04 |
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| nacer | nunne: take a look at ceph | 14:07 |
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| nunne | nacer: looks similar to drdb? but my setup is viable at least? it should work in other words? :) (about to order the hardware). | 14:10 |
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| jproulx | nunne it's a good test setup, the "openstack way' to do HA would be to launch identical instances on each and use a load balancer or some other HA setup between them. Unfortunatly the loadbalance as a service (LBaaS) that OpenStack includes isn't HA it's self yet. | 14:11 |
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| jproulx | nunne, ceph is good for high performance, redundant, networked storage that could get you fast moves or restarts, and you shoudl probably look but I don't think it answers the question you asked | 14:13 |
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| nunne | jproulx: actually that sounds even better. since i would gain performance on a normal day (when both computes are running)? but i would still need ceph in the bottom running on the "partition" that will store the vm-images then? | 14:16 |
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| jproulx | nunne you wouldn't 'need' ceph. you can store images on local disk on the controller (or an attaached san) then they will be copied to the controllers when you launch a VM and the ephemeral copies for the running instances can sit on local disk on your computes (in this setup any local state on the instances goes away on termination so you'd need some volumes storage or network filesystem if you need to persist data outside the 'froze | 14:19 |
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| nunne | jproulx: controllers? the data will be stored there? and not on the compute nodes themselves? because my setup that i'm "about to order" has pretty "normal" controller nodes with "limited" hdd space. and then maxed ram, cpu and storage on the 2 compute nodes | 14:20 |
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| nunne | what do you mean with outside the freeze? if one of the nodes crash i would loose some data? most of the vms will actually be windows 2012 guests. so maybe they will not behave good in this setup? | 14:22 |
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| jproulx | nunne, You need storage for images and possible storage for 'volumes' this can be many different things local diosk on the controller, network attached storage or object storage like ceph or swift | 14:22 |
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| jproulx | nunne there's two basic ways of running OpenStack VMs 'ephemeral' and 'persistent' (at least that's what I call them), here's links to my internal documentation for my users explaining the two, try to ignore the local specifics but the concept is the same: | 14:24 |
| nunne | okay. but then I got it all wrong. the storage is not supposed to be on the compute nodes? or is this possible? because I will have a very fixed ratio since it will be windows guests that will be pretty static. so that would serve me quite well. | 14:25 |
| jproulx | http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/OpenStackEphemeralVMs | 14:25 |
| jproulx | http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/OpenStackPersistentVMs | 14:25 |
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| jproulx | With 'persistent' VMs storage is not on compute nodes, it is through the Cinder Volume service | 14:26 |
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| jproulx | With 'ephemeral' instance you need storage for Glance to hold the base iamges and storage on the computes (maybe shared storage) for the copies that are running (these are usually copy on write, depending on hypervisor, so the based doesn't get multiplied exactly) | 14:27 |
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| nunne | jproulx: so there isn't any "option" where the data is actually stored on the compute nodes then? but it seems like i'm after persistent. since it will be different images for different customers, with ad, local users etc. | 14:29 |
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| jproulx | nunne, that's hard to say for certain. Ephemeral has a lot of advantages in terms of repeatability and always being able to quickly revert to a known good state or launch another identical system for test or scale out *if* you can figure out how to persist the data you need. Persistent is easy to understand and more 'normal' from many perspectives but each VM becomes it's own special snowflake. | 14:34 |
| jproulx | It sounds like persistent may be the way for you, but think about it to be sure. If each system is more or less unique, it probably is right. If there will we several classes of system but many instances of each, it's probably worth trying to architect an ephemeral solution. IMO anyway... | 14:34 |
| nunne | jproulx: so a better setup would be 2 controllers (not super power full server), 2 compute (cpu + ram maxed and just a basic hdd). and then some sort of NAS (with redundancy) for NFS? | 14:34 |
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| nunne | jproulx: yeah, i can see that it would be better. but i think the systems will be very different from each other. plus that we might only run about 20vms per (2xcompute). So it will probably not be overloaded. | 14:35 |
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| jproulx | nunne You can definitely get by with one controller from a load stand point but may want two for HA. Honestly I have one controller backing 70 physical compute nodes and bout 500 VMs and load isn't an issue | 14:38 |
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| jproulx | nunne for persistent storage look at what Cinder supports for Volume Storage backends and pick what suits you. I'm using an Equalogic SAN now and looking to transition to ceph soon but there are many other options | 14:39 |
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| nunne | jproulx: perfect. then the controller setup im doing will probably "last forever". 2 is only for HA. it will be business critical stuff running : | 14:43 |
| nunne | :P | 14:43 |
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| nunne | jproulx: will look at some NAS setups that are not to costly. but with dual controllers. otherwise I guess I have a fault point there as well. but maybe it's just cheaper to buy 2 servers + lots of hdds and use ceph then? | 14:44 |
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| jproulx | nunne ceph probably doens't make too much sense at that scale I think 3 is the minimum server count (for quorum ellection you need an odd number) my proof of concept is 5 servers | 14:45 |
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| jproulx | some people do run ceph on the same hardware as the openstack nodes, you may look into their experience but I can speak to how much they would fight each other for resources | 14:46 |
| jproulx | s/can/can't/; | 14:47 |
| nunne | jproulx: ahh, okay. yeah. then a NAS with 2 controllers will be a lot more cheap :P and also when we have like 10-20 nodes we will have the cash flow to do something more cool ;) | 14:47 |
| nunne | probably better to keep it separate just in case. would hate that some update would break something so the storage goes offline ;) | 14:47 |
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| nunne | jproulx: looks like synlogoy has HA built is. so 2 synology NAS:es (which are cheap) will do :) | 15:01 |
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| jproulx | If you haven't already it's probably worth reading through the "Architecture" section of the Operations Guide before spending money to be sure you've though of all the pieces...http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/architecture.html | 15:04 |
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| jproulx | s/though/thought/; | 15:04 |
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| tomixxx7 | hi, does anyone know which hypervisor is used for cloud nodes in this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure | 15:07 |
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| jproulx | tomixxx7 not 100% sure but KVM is the usual thing for Ubuntu to use I'd be quite surprised if you got anything different without some effort to change it | 15:11 |
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| tomixxx7 | @jproulx: ok, ty | 15:12 |
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| nacer | nunne: i can't tell about drbd install vs ceph | 16:05 |
| nacer | nunne: i onlu know ceph + openstack | 16:05 |
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| rotbeard | nunne, you could just buy 2 cheapo boxes and build drbd on top of it. | 16:20 |
| rotbeard | we use that as backend storage for vmware esxi, works well. | 16:20 |
| rotbeard | for openstack we use ceph | 16:20 |
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| nunne | rotbeard: but should work for openstack as well i guess. but is it possible running 2 instances agaisnt same image? or how will i do HA on compute? | 16:22 |
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| Zart | how [policy]driver=...sql.Policy interacts with [DEFAULT]policy_file=policy.json? | 17:25 |
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| Coren | Hey all. I'm having a relatively odd problem (almost certainly newbie-caused) with keystone. Can anyone spare a few minutes to help me debug it? (not spamming the actual data on-channel for the obvious reason) | 17:45 |
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| Coren | The short of it: keystone works fine with an admin token, but using a real token gotten through auth responds with 404 to every request. | 17:47 |
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| larsks | Coren: You're able to authenticate with username and password and get a token, but trying to use that token for authenticating to other services fails? | 18:14 |
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| thmzz | larsks: i have the same problem.. but i get this error, “expecting an endpoint provided via either --os-endpoint or env[OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT]”. Know anything of what this comes from? I use the line, “keystone --os-username=admin --os-password=ADMIN_PASS \ | 18:17 |
| thmzz | --os-auth-url=http://controller:35357/v2.0 token-get" | 18:17 |
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| larsks | thmzz: That actually sounds like a different problem. | 18:18 |
| larsks | That is, it sounds like you're not successfully obtaining a token in the first place. | 18:18 |
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| Pursuit | is this chan the proper place to ask for cloud-init help? I'm having some trouble with the chef module | 18:19 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: You can try. I'm familiar with cloud-init, but not at all with chef. | 18:20 |
| larsks | thmzz: Are you table to authenticate using a service token? Have you created your services and endpoints? In my environment, running "keystone --os-auth-url=http://localhost:35357/v2.0 --os-username=lars --os-password=mypasses token-get" works just fine. | 18:22 |
| Pursuit | larsks: The module is failing with "status, context = matchpathcon(path, mode)#012OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" at the end of the traceback. I'm not sure what path it's trying to access, and there's nothing specified in the cloud-config about any paths | 18:22 |
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| Coren | larsks: I found my mistake since - I created the keystone endpoint with the --admin-url pointing at the normal url rather than the admin one. :-) | 18:22 |
| Coren | larsks: But thanks. | 18:23 |
| larsks | Pursuit: Can you post the full traceback somewhere? And your actual cloud-config data? | 18:23 |
| Coren | So yeah, it was a newbie error. :-) | 18:23 |
| larsks | Coren: Yay! | 18:23 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: sure, gimme a sec to pastebin | 18:24 |
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| Pursuit | Traceback: http://pastebin.com/L2pGGp7D | 18:27 |
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| Pursuit | cloud-config: http://pastebin.com/wvhyXDu7 | 18:28 |
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| module000 | I'm getting auth failures for `glance image-list` and anything else glance related. I'm following the icehouse deployment guide for 14.04 LTS. Anyone have an idea why? Here is a pastebin of the output(with --debug), the logs at the time of the failure, and my keystone users/lists/roles/endpoints/etc: http://pastebin.com/SdS27JF9 | 18:30 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: Looking... | 18:32 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: If you disable selinux, do things work correctly? | 18:36 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: I would probably stick a print statement in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cloudinit/util.py to see exactly which path is generating that error... | 18:36 |
| larsks | In theory by the time it hits that code it should have created the directories using os.makedirs(). | 18:37 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: no, with selinux set to permissive, I still get the error. I'll try disabling completely, then the print statement | 18:40 |
| larsks | What OS are you booting? | 18:40 |
| larsks | Pursuit: ^^^ | 18:40 |
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| Pursuit | CentOS-6.5 | 18:41 |
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| Pursuit | The image linked to from the RDO where-to-get-images page | 18:41 |
| larsks | Pursuit: Okay. I'm going to see if I can replicate that behavior. | 18:41 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: with selinux disabled completely, I get a different error! | 18:43 |
| larsks | Pursuit: Yay! :/ | 18:43 |
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| Pursuit | this time it looks like an issue with my config. I'll see if I can fix it... | 18:44 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: Hmm, now it's complaining about not being able to find the packages for a gem install of chef... | 18:51 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: yeah, I don't think this is going to work. Even with the rubygems package installed, cloud-init still can't figure out which package it needs and gives up. Looks like CentOS support is just lacking. | 19:01 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: Bummer. Probably worth opening a bz against CentOS. | 19:01 |
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| Pursuit | larsks: Any idea where the upstream for it is? All I'm coming up with is ubuntu's launchpad for it | 19:05 |
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| larsks | Pursuit: Ubuntu is upstream for cloud-init, I believe. | 19:06 |
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| libsysguy | hey, if I would like to create a custom patched version of nova and have it build on launchpad, where would be a good place to start looking for info? (other than google :p) | 19:07 |
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| libsysguy | I'm trying to figure out how the heck git -> bzr -> ppa | 19:08 |
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| joseph___ | hi | 19:12 |
| joseph___ | glance.sqlite file was created automatically from home location , even if i delete any reason pls | 19:13 |
| joseph___ | i am using mysql | 19:14 |
| joseph___ | any reason pls | 19:14 |
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| thmzz | larsks: thanks, it worked:) can i ask you something else? Im following the Legacy steps in openstack. The openstacks clients.. should that be installed on the controller node? | 19:14 |
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| larsks | thmzz: The clients should be installed wherever you expect to be using them. It's often convenient to have them installed on the controller, but you will probably do most of your work from other systems in a real deployment. | 19:17 |
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| larsks | joseph___: What is your sql_connection setting in glance-api.conf and glance-registry.conf? | 19:18 |
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| joseph___ | sql_connection = mysql://glance:password@172.23.228.151/glance | 19:19 |
| larsks | joseph___: Same in both files? And you're sure glance is looking at those config files? | 19:19 |
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| joseph___ | yes | 19:19 |
| joseph___ | yes | 19:19 |
| larsks | Weird. In that case, I'm not sure. | 19:19 |
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| joseph___ | Hope this line no need #sql_connection = sqlite:////var/lib/glance/glance.sqlite | 19:20 |
| thmzz | larsks: i have a controller node and planning to also have compute nodes. | 19:20 |
| joseph___ | i set # from the beginning | 19:21 |
| joseph___ | its ok ? | 19:21 |
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| larsks | joseph___: I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me. If you commented out the sql_connection setting (or the equivalent database/connection setting), then glance will default to using a sqlite database. | 19:21 |
| larsks | thmzz: Regardless, you're generally not going to log into your controller to use the clients. You would typically have them installed on your laptop/desktop/whatever, as would any other users of your openstack environment. | 19:22 |
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| joseph___ | can you pls check anything wrong on this configuration sql setting | 19:23 |
| joseph___ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/87647/ | 19:23 |
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| larsks | joseph___: the "connection" setting can only go into the [database] section. The legacy "sql_connection" setting can go in the [DEFAULT] section. | 19:25 |
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| joseph___ | Sorry , not getting you , need to change the location pls | 19:26 |
| joseph___ | i am sorry | 19:26 |
| larsks | joseph___: You have a "connection" setting in the [DEFAULT] section of http://paste.openstack.org/show/87647/. | 19:27 |
| larsks | That doesn't work. | 19:27 |
| larsks | The "connection" setting must be in the [database] section. | 19:27 |
| larsks | Or you need to rename it to "sql_connection", which may also work. | 19:27 |
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| atpa8a | hmm | 19:29 |
| atpa8a | so it's all cloud archive now?.. | 19:29 |
| joseph___ | connection = mysql://glance:password@172.23.228.151/glance instead of that connection = sql://glance:password@172.23.228.151/glance i am correct ? | 19:29 |
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| atpa8a | joseph___: read carefully what larsks said again | 19:30 |
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| joseph___ | ok got it | 19:32 |
| joseph___ | sql_connection = sqlite:////var/lib/glance/glance.sqlite connection = mysql://glance:password@172.23.228.151/glance | 19:32 |
| atpa8a | joseph___: if it | 19:32 |
| joseph___ | need to add here | 19:32 |
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| joseph___ | could you pleas confirm this line are correct ? | 19:34 |
| joseph___ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/87652/ | 19:34 |
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| atpa8a | do i need to use cloud archive with ubuntu 14.04? | 19:34 |
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| jproulx | not yet...icehouse is in base 14.04 | 19:35 |
| atpa8a | joseph___: incorrect...you should have only one of these | 19:36 |
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| atpa8a | jproulx: cool, thanks! | 19:36 |
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| atpa8a | going thru installation instructions | 19:37 |
| joseph___ | sql_connection = sqlite:////var/lib/glance/glance.sqlite this line no need i am correct ? | 19:37 |
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| Joseph_ | Also this command is working fine that is glance is working ? | 19:39 |
| Joseph_ | glance-manage db_sync | 19:39 |
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| atpa8a | you see [default] section in your config file? | 19:40 |
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| joseph___ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/87653/ | 19:42 |
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| atpa8a | you're holding it wrong (c) | 19:43 |
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| Joseph_ | sorry which line pls | 19:46 |
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| Joseph_ | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/glance-install.html | 19:47 |
| Joseph_ | as per this document seems ok | 19:47 |
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| Joseph_ | Kindly help | 19:51 |
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| joseph___ | hi | 19:59 |
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| joseph___ | i was stop this issues last one days | 20:00 |
| joseph___ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/87654/ | 20:00 |
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| Joseph_ | pls help | 20:02 |
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| Joseph_ | pls hlep | 20:11 |
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| joseph___ | Pls help this issues | 20:16 |
| joseph___ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/87654/ | 20:16 |
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| atpa8a | hmm | 20:34 |
| atpa8a | should i change the cert that keystone creates? with my own values?.. and how?.. | 20:35 |
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| atpa8a | i see... keystone-manage | 20:39 |
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| Joseph_ | root@controller:/opt# glance-manage db_sync root@controller:/opt# glance image-list Request returned failure status. HTTPInternalServerError (HTTP 500) root@controller:/opt# | 21:28 |
| Joseph_ | very strange | 21:28 |
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| cblack | I have a fairly basic openstack question (I think). I just installed RDO and am looking to add a 2nd host. The doc says I need a second nic to do this so the two machines can both handle the private network | 23:24 |
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| cblack | Q: Is this true? Do we need two separate nics on all our openstack hypervisor hosts? | 23:25 |
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| cblack | if I do truly need a separate nic (boo), can I make an alias or virtual nic? Our basic hosts are set up to have the two 10GbE ports bonded via lacp for failover, and I'd rather not change that | 23:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cblack: you can use vlans or aliases | 23:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | just keep in mind it adds another layer to troubleshoot | 23:32 |
| cblack | understood. this is a testbed and we may well change things around if we go into production for openstack | 23:32 |
| cblack | thanks for the answer | 23:32 |
| cblack | Sam-I-Am++ | 23:32 |
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| cblack | if we do have single NICs per hypervisor, is it best to do vlan trunking so it can truly have multiple vlans vs just kind of faking the ability for it to reach different subnets since they are all on the same local rack switch? | 23:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cblack: vlans would be faking it | 23:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can run everything on the same network, however, assigning floating ips might interfere with management operations... unless you throw another network on there | 23:48 |
| cblack | better than faking it with NOT using vlans but using a single nic and relying on layer2 locality, no? | 23:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | stuff just needs to talk | 23:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the reason for separating management from VM traffic is redundancy | 23:49 |
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| cblack | I think in production we will use one of the onboard 1GbE nics for host/management and the bonded 10GbE nics where real traffic flows for virtual nic perhaps... or the other way? which one would use more bandwidth when talking to non-openstack resources elsewhere on the network, the NOVA__PRIVIF or the nic used for the hypervisor host's main OS-level ip? | 23:50 |
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| cblack | also reading how to set a floating ip range, and it has two sections, one with nova-network and one with neutron. both nova and neutron appear to be installed, do I follow directions for setting floating ip ranges for both? (following http://openstack.redhat.com/Floating_IP_range) | 23:52 |
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| cblack | sorry for beginner Qs, I know I have some reading to do ;) | 23:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the vms would use the most traffic | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | you use either nova-net or neutron for networking | 23:56 |
| cblack | is there a simple best choice for most cases, or is a deep "it depends"? | 23:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron gives the most flexibility and should someday eclipse nova-net. however, there are certain features of nova-net not available in neutron yet. they should come in juno, but if you dont plan to build out your prod environment on juno, might be something to consider. | 23:58 |
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| cblack | is juno another SDN project or the next version of openstack or something else? | 23:59 |
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