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| jayunit100 | I fixed my OS issue. | 01:37 |
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| GTK | Hey, I got a weird network problem that maybe someone could help out with | 02:00 |
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| GTK | I have everything installed on a single server (Compute, network, and controller) | 02:01 |
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| GTK | It's worked flawlessly at one point, but after rebooting my whole system my instances can no longer get an IP address. Nor can 2 instances on the same network (with static addresses) ping each other | 02:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did anything get updated or changed for the reboot? | 02:05 |
| GTK | No sir | 02:05 |
| GTK | Only thing that changed was the reboot | 02:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | did all the services start? and in the right order? | 02:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this on ubuntu? | 02:06 |
| GTK | I'm using OpenSuSe. All services and all agents start | 02:07 |
| GTK | *started | 02:07 |
| GTK | No errors in logs | 02:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron? | 02:07 |
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| GTK | neutron yes | 02:08 |
| GTK | I can ping the router and DHCP service from the compute node using "ip netns exec <router-id> ping 172.16.0.1" | 02:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you ping the virt router ip on the ext-net from outside? | 02:10 |
| GTK | yes | 02:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see dhcp requests coming in from the instances? | 02:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | all-in-ones are difficult to troubleshoot | 02:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | because... so many virtual interfaces | 02:11 |
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| GTK | I've gone though the entire network troubleshooting guide online. It's just the instances cannot connect to anything, everything else is connected | 02:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump is useful | 02:12 |
| GTK | I see DHCP requests coming from the instances | 02:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | do they get to the dhcp netns? | 02:12 |
| GTK | there are no replies to their DHCP request | 02:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | or with static ips, do you see any traffic on the qrouter netns? | 02:12 |
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| GTK | and the stranger thing is, with static IP's I can't see them sending out pings | 02:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | cant see them from where? | 02:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | you could tcpdump within the qrouter netns | 02:13 |
| GTK | On the controller node, I do tcpdump -i any | 02:13 |
| GTK | and filter with dhcp and icmp | 02:13 |
| GTK | how so? | 02:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | ip netns exec qrouter-whatever tcpdump -ln -e -i <interface in netns> | 02:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can do 'ip netns exec qrouter-* ip a' to see the interfaces | 02:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | or... just run a shell after qrouter-* so all further commands run in that ns | 02:14 |
| GTK | Hmm, it doesn't look like that router can see any of the DHCP requests | 02:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the dhcp requests should end up in the qdhcp ns | 02:16 |
| GTK | nope, that router can't see the DHCP or ICMP requests | 02:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | have you tried restarting the l3, dhcp agent, and ovs agent? | 02:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | was this the first time you rebooted the box? | 02:18 |
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| GTK | yup | 02:21 |
| GTK | to both questions | 02:21 |
| GTK | Everything was working. Turned it off for a few days, turned it back on and nothing could get an IP | 02:22 |
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| GTK | I'm using Icehouse with neutron networking if that helps | 02:24 |
| GTK | And I can send you any files you need | 02:24 |
| GTK | It's just frustrating because I'm looking at starting a business using this technology, but if feels too unreliable :( | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when you installed it... did you make any changes that you didnt save? | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | for example, turning off the system firewall, but not turning it off in the init scripts | 02:26 |
| GTK | All my changes were saved and I double checked them all too | 02:26 |
| GTK | Probably about the 3rd time I've set it up so I have a list of "quirks" to my system | 02:26 |
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| GTK | Nope, use YaST to keep my firewall off | 02:26 |
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| GTK | All the services can reach each other and everything else works. I can set up instances, add new images, connect to glance and VNC. It's just networking with instances are no longer working | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmmmmm | 02:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the key is figuring out where the packets stop | 02:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you use gre tunnels? | 02:29 |
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| GTK | they're not reaching between the instances and the router | 02:29 |
| GTK | nor between instances | 02:29 |
| GTK | Yes | 02:29 |
| GTK | I use GRE tunneling | 02:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see encapsulation of arp? | 02:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | surely those instances are trying to arp | 02:29 |
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| GTK | How would I check that? | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump again | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | on... whatever interface has the IP you used as the tunnel IP | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | all-in-ones are... difficult | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | so many interfaces on the same box | 02:32 |
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| GTK | So yes. I use TCPdump on interface (qbrfa46c50f-9b | 02:37 |
| GTK | ) and it's catching the DHCP AND ICMP requests | 02:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you're seeing the pings from within the instance to the outside world? | 02:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | can the instances ping their local gw? | 02:38 |
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| GTK | no, that's the issue | 02:40 |
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| GTK | The instances cannot ping their router nor each other with static addresses | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | question is... if you saw the ping requests, that means arp worked | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | or are they arp requests? | 02:41 |
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| GTK | OK so ARP requests are going out | 02:44 |
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| GTK | You're right. I'm capturing them with TCPdump | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | so no arp responses... | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | those would normally come from the interface with your tenant network gw | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | dumb question... have you tried stopping all of the network-related services and restarting them? | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | or trying ovs-cleanup ? | 02:45 |
| GTK | OK so ARPping is working | 02:45 |
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| GTK | So I'm getting ARP requests and responses being sent out | 02:46 |
| GTK | 19:45:33.088380 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Reply 172.17.0.1 is-at fa:16:3e:5e:26:6e, length 28 | 02:46 |
| GTK | 19:45:34.088392 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Request who-has 172.17.0.1 (fa:16:3e:5e:26:6e) tell 172.17.0.24, length 28 | 02:46 |
| GTK | 19:45:34.088420 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Reply 172.17.0.1 is-at fa:16:3e:5e:26:6e, length 28 | 02:46 |
| GTK | 19:45:35.088506 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Request who-has 172.17.0.1 (fa:16:3e:5e:26:6e) tell 172.17.0.24, length 28 | 02:46 |
| GTK | 19:45:35.088557 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Reply 172.17.0.1 is-at fa:16:3e:5e:26:6e, length 28 | 02:46 |
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| GTK | I have | 02:46 |
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| GTK | IDK what ovs-cleanup is | 02:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its a little script in /etc/init.d that sort of forces a rebuild of the ovs stuff | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... do you see those arp responses making it back to the instance (run tcpdump on it) | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing not if it keeps asking | 02:47 |
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| GTK | so the instance that I could get to boot on a reasonable time (others were ubuntu-cloudpipe and would hose at the DHCP requests) | 02:48 |
| GTK | The instance doesn't have tcpdump installed... | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | cirros is usually a good tester | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | it has tcpdump iirc | 02:48 |
| GTK | I'm using cirros | 02:48 |
| GTK | not seeing tcpdump in it though | 02:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you tried creating a new instance and seeing if it works? | 02:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you root? | 02:49 |
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| GTK | So I was disconnected, what did you last say? | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | cirros should have tcpdump | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | were you root? | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you tried creating a new instance and seeing if it works? | 02:57 |
| GTK | I have root everywhere | 02:58 |
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| GTK | Yes, I've created new instances and they're not getting addresses either. Nor can they ping other instances with static addresses | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder where those arp packets are stopping | 02:58 |
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| GTK | Hmm, let me boot up kali and try TCPdump on there | 03:01 |
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| GTK | OK so using TCPdump on Kali and the controller. It seems like L2 works but L3 does not on the OSI model | 03:15 |
| GTK | That's very weird | 03:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | could be an iptables problem | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything in the ovs agent logs? | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | might need to set verbose or debug mode | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | or even ovs itself (which may log to syslog) | 03:18 |
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| GTK | Nothing that I'm seeing. Hmm let me check security groups | 03:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | secgroups shouldnt affect outbound connectivity | 03:22 |
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| GTK | Ahaha You are the man Sam-I-Am! | 03:27 |
| GTK | I guess the firewall on the compute node turned itself back on | 03:27 |
| GTK | Silly OpenSuSE. Thanks a lot | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | that would do it | 03:27 |
| GTK | Turned it off and everything seems to be working | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | yay | 03:27 |
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| GTK | Yup, everything's running | 03:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 03:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you should be enjoying the weekend :) | 03:33 |
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| mdim` | I have Keystone set up and now I'm trying to set up Glance, but seems like I'm stuck. Can someone help? | 05:48 |
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| mdim` | In particular, when I run "glance image-list", I get Authorization Failed: An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. (HTTP 500) | 05:48 |
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| mischief | wow | 06:01 |
| mischief | awesome | 06:01 |
| mischief | my default security group is empty | 06:01 |
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| mischief | .. wait.. what | 06:04 |
| mischief | the db shows they aren't empty but when printed they show nothing | 06:04 |
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| Amresh | Hi all, need help with assigning floating IP while creating an instance. Able to assign floating IP to an active instance from CLI, via dashboard as well as using API but floating IP isn't getting assigned automatically while creating a new instance, only fixed IP is getting added. Have enabled IP forwarding as well as auto_assign_floating_ip=True is set to nova.conf | 06:24 |
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| Amresh | Tried creating the instance using dashboard as well as API | 06:25 |
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| Poornima | Hi i would like to know how openstack packages build are there any specific steps ? | 08:44 |
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| Poornima | any link which i can refer to understand openstack packaging guidelines | 08:45 |
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| ranjan | Poornima: try asking at #openstack-packaging | 08:46 |
| Poornima | thanks ranjan, i will check it out | 08:47 |
| ranjan | poornima: for which distro are you trying to package ? | 08:47 |
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| Poornima | icehouse | 08:48 |
| ranjan | Poornima: no, i am asking about for which linux distro? | 08:49 |
| Poornima | oh Red Hat | 08:49 |
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| ranjan | Poornima: Red Hat has RDO repository where they are already giving you package, | 08:50 |
| Poornima | yes i went through RDO would like to know how upstream packaging is done in openstack | 08:51 |
| Poornima | ranjan, http://openstack.redhat.com/Repositories | 08:52 |
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| milad_ | Hi is any one here ? | 12:32 |
| milad_ | i have interesting problem with My openstack | 12:32 |
| milad_ | i can ping my instances but cannot ssh to them | 12:33 |
| milad_ | i add security | 12:33 |
| milad_ | when tcpdump in instance i get chksum incorrect error | 12:33 |
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| EmilienM | milad_: check the MTU | 12:40 |
| EmilienM | milad_: try to reduce the MTU of the VM to 1400, and check if it's good | 12:41 |
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| milad_ | @EmilienM :MTU of VM or compute node ? | 12:55 |
| EmilienM | could be both | 12:55 |
| EmilienM | but the VM first | 12:55 |
| milad_ | when i use Cloud images cannot connect to them so | 12:55 |
| milad_ | how i can reduce it | 12:56 |
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| milad_ | thanks i reduce VM MTU and that works ! | 13:02 |
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| milad_ | how can i set it in DHCP ? | 13:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's an mtu option in dhcp | 13:07 |
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| samba35 | sorry | 13:26 |
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| EmilienM | milad_: you should rather use Jumbo frame on your switches | 13:51 |
| EmilienM | but neutron is able to push dhcp extra config, it's in manuals | 13:52 |
| EmilienM | so you can force the MTU in the VM, even if I don't suggest that way | 13:52 |
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| milad_ | is there any horizon plugin to show telemetry results ? | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | milad_: in admin dashboard you can see it, "Resource usage" | 14:10 |
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| milad_ | and last question is any Billing System based on telemetry | 14:26 |
| milad_ | ? | 14:26 |
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| jerryu | Q: could you share the approach you took to learn Openstack? I installed a few times using devstack & packstack, & chef cookbooks. I felt the automation kinda deprived me of learning the internal workings of things. | 17:23 |
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| * jerryu wonder if I should go back to manual installation of individual projects, aka, RTFM ;-) | 17:24 | |
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