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| bobbytek | Is there a way to curl openrc? | 00:03 |
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| bobbytek | something like: curl -kv https://user:password@server/horizon/project/access_and_security/api_access/openrc/ ? | 00:03 |
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| bobbytek | Something like this I guess: https://gist.github.com/nobuto-m/10474463 | 00:08 |
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| bobbytek | Is that the recommended way? | 00:12 |
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| PipinoPipinak | Ciao a tutti :))) | 00:36 |
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| bobbytek | Is it weird to program directly against the jclouds api? | 01:11 |
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| mnaser | if you need java sure bobbytek | 01:27 |
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| mnaser | you have the python nova clients however | 01:27 |
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| bobbytek | mnaser: Was thinking about using Groovy | 01:40 |
| mnaser | never touched it :) | 01:40 |
| bobbytek | That way, I can use jclouds with the Cloudera Manager API | 01:40 |
| mnaser | i do python | 01:41 |
| bobbytek | I used to love it :) | 01:41 |
| bobbytek | I think python is a nice language, so nice :) | 01:41 |
| bobbytek | I mostly use Java at work | 01:41 |
| bobbytek | But, I'd rather be using Scala or Clojure | 01:41 |
| mnaser | it's up to you, but most of the openstack tooling is in python | 01:42 |
| bobbytek | For scripting, Groovy is nice for a Java guy | 01:42 |
| bobbytek | Well, we are targeting other platforms, so that's why jclouds is attractive | 01:42 |
| mnaser | what are you looking to accomplish exactly | 01:43 |
| bobbytek | Mind you, all I"m trying to do is automate OpenStack provisioning and Cloudera Manager setup of a bunch of nodes | 01:43 |
| bobbytek | I know Sahara is kinda set up for this | 01:43 |
| bobbytek | And has a CDH plugin | 01:43 |
| bobbytek | So I think that might be the best best locally | 01:43 |
| mnaser | i really don't kno wa lot about cloudera | 01:44 |
| bobbytek | We'll it has its own provisioner for Hadoop ecosystem | 01:44 |
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| bobbytek | And a pretty slick UI, etc. | 01:44 |
| mnaser | it doesn't have an openstack provisioner? | 01:44 |
| bobbytek | But it also has an API | 01:44 |
| bobbytek | I don't think so | 01:45 |
| bobbytek | But OpenStack has Sahara | 01:45 |
| bobbytek | Which has plugins | 01:45 |
| bobbytek | Which they have one for Cloudera | 01:45 |
| mnaser | so why not build on that? | 01:45 |
| bobbytek | I'm thinking about it, but I'm brand spanking new to OS | 01:45 |
| bobbytek | And 2 guys just left our IT department, so changes may take some time | 01:46 |
| mnaser | i dont think sahara is read for prod however | 01:46 |
| bobbytek | That requires their help | 01:46 |
| mnaser | but take that as FUD | 01:46 |
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| mnaser | i dont know a lot about sahar | 01:46 |
| mnaser | *sahara | 01:46 |
| bobbytek | Ya, so right now I"m just "rolling my own" | 01:46 |
| bobbytek | I could bang the openstack stuff out in a shell script | 01:47 |
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| bobbytek | But it would probably be nicer integrated with the cloudera script in Java | 01:47 |
| bobbytek | So that's the debate :) | 01:47 |
| mnaser | it's up to you, but most likely sahara is better integrated than some code you'll write, heh | 01:47 |
| mnaser | (no offense! :p) | 01:47 |
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| bobbytek | Oh I totally agree | 01:47 |
| bobbytek | And none taken | 01:48 |
| bobbytek | The best code is the code you don't write | 01:48 |
| bobbytek | :) | 01:48 |
| mnaser | and then maybe you can contribute some code to OS :) | 01:48 |
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| bobbytek | I would love to see support for Docker being supported along side a Hypervisor | 01:49 |
| bobbytek | And not have to choose one or the other | 01:49 |
| bobbytek | As I believe is the case right now | 01:49 |
| bobbytek | I'm actually mostly focused on Docker at the moment | 01:50 |
| bobbytek | Loving it so far | 01:50 |
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| bobbytek | mnaser: Do you happen to use Ansible? | 01:58 |
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| mnaser | bobbytek: a bit | 02:00 |
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| bobbytek | mnaser: What do you think about their OpenStack support? It doesn't seem very well integrated. | 02:26 |
| mnaser | o | 02:26 |
| mnaser | i've never touched with it personally | 02:26 |
| mnaser | i'm comfortable with salt/puppet | 02:26 |
| bobbytek | I wish I could just define an openstack cluster and the provisioning steps with it alone | 02:26 |
| bobbytek | Ah, that's cool | 02:26 |
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| mnaser | bobbytek: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-openstack | 02:27 |
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| bobbytek | Is that for deploying openstack, or openstack server instance provisioning? | 02:27 |
| mnaser | deploying openstack | 02:27 |
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| soleblaze | It feels like puppet or chef is the way to go for openstack deployment. I haven't heard much about people using Salt or Ansible with it | 02:28 |
| bobbytek | Ah, I'm more interested in the above | 02:28 |
| bobbytek | soleblaze: Our IT used Ansible to deploy | 02:28 |
| soleblaze | bobbytek: did you use scripts available publically or write your own? | 02:28 |
| bobbytek | The guy was a Puppet dude, but switched to Ansible for this project | 02:28 |
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| bobbytek | soleblaze: I would think public | 02:28 |
| soleblaze | hm.. I should look for that | 02:29 |
| soleblaze | I'm looking to setup my cluster at home..small, so Ansible would make more sense. | 02:29 |
| bobbytek | Anyways, he had a great experience with it | 02:29 |
| soleblaze | glad to hear | 02:29 |
| soleblaze | I'll have to look into that tomorrow | 02:29 |
| bobbytek | That's not to say I don't like Puppet | 02:29 |
| bobbytek | We use that with Elasticsearch very well | 02:29 |
| bobbytek | (personally I love yaml :) | 02:30 |
| soleblaze | cool, yeah. How are y'all monitoring openstack? When I've managed VMWare it gives you nice graphs on a per VM basis.. Wondering how people deal with monitoring on a per VM basis | 02:31 |
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| bobbytek | soleblaze: Beyond the scope of this (me) book :) | 02:32 |
| bobbytek | We were using Munin / Ganglia for Hadoop / Elasticsearch | 02:33 |
| bobbytek | Not sure what they went with here | 02:33 |
| bobbytek | I'm excited about Docker on OpenStack | 02:33 |
| soleblaze | I tried Munin a little.. seemed resource intensive | 02:33 |
| bobbytek | But using the driver for it precludes using a Hypervisor on that host | 02:34 |
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| bobbytek | Because you can only have one driver per host, right? | 02:34 |
| soleblaze | I haven't read much about docker.. I hope that's not the case | 02:34 |
| soleblaze | er | 02:34 |
| soleblaze | docker in openstack | 02:34 |
| soleblaze | is that going to be in the next release? | 02:34 |
| bobbytek | Munin looks so 1970s | 02:34 |
| bobbytek | There is already a Driver for it | 02:34 |
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| soleblaze | ah. | 02:35 |
| bobbytek | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Docker | 02:35 |
| soleblaze | Introduced in Havanna.. interesitng | 02:35 |
| bobbytek | http://blog.docker.com/2014/03/docker-will-be-in-openstack-icehouse/ | 02:35 |
| bobbytek | I still have to read up on this stuff | 02:36 |
| bobbytek | Both things are pretty new in our organization | 02:36 |
| soleblaze | yeah. I'm not a sysadmin anymore..I played with openstack a bit last year at home..about to setup another small cluster. Would be interesting to see it in a large deployment. | 02:37 |
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| bobbytek | I guess Heat is the answer to my problems :) | 02:38 |
| bobbytek | We have a fairly big deployment of 50 nodes | 02:38 |
| bobbytek | Well, big for us anyways | 02:38 |
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| soleblaze | bobbytek: I was wondering if Heat + chef/puppet/salt/ansible/whatever is a good way to go for automated deployments.. Heat to setup the basics and then have something to manage the configurations seperately | 02:39 |
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| mnaser | soleblaze: what type of metrics are you looking to look at really | 02:40 |
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| soleblaze | mnaser: mostly just cpu/memory/drive io per vm | 02:40 |
| mnaser | have you looked at ceilometer | 02:41 |
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| soleblaze | I haven't seen anything actually tell me exactly what it does besides monitor usage for billing purposes. But I haven't run it either, so not yet. | 02:41 |
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| soleblaze | mnaser: I'll look up some presentations on youtube. It probably does what I'm looking for, I just haven't seen any real details about it. | 02:43 |
| mnaser | soleblaze: for billing purposes, you need to probably do some of your work on top, imho | 02:43 |
| mnaser | oh, ceilometer isnt that much for billing, it can help you graph cpu usage / etc | 02:43 |
| soleblaze | ah. I've only ever seen it mentioned with regards to monitoring usage for billing | 02:44 |
| mnaser | soleblaze: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2013/09/06/openstack-heat-and-ceilometer-got-their-dashboard-panel/ | 02:44 |
| soleblaze | nifty, I'll take a look at that. Thanks. | 02:47 |
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| bobbytek | How do most people spin up openstack instances as a platform for distributed applications? | 02:56 |
| bobbytek | Do they usually: 1. Use a python script to spin-up a cluster using the Nova api, 2. Then use an image or something like Puppet / Ansible on top? | 02:57 |
| bobbytek | What's a typical workflow and technology stack? | 02:57 |
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| Salec | hey everyone! I'm looking to tinker with openstack in a home lab (2 physical machines, controller + compute). Rather than deploy manually, I'm thinking about using chef (which I'm also new to). But reading the docs has me a bit confused. Does chef require a server? Is Vagrant required? | 16:06 |
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| paraa | Hi, I have a problem with puppet+openstack. My compute node cant finish its setup and gives me "Could not find declared class neutron::agents::ml2::ovs" | 16:08 |
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| reveal | hey all. I just booted up a fedora instance but Internet access within launched instances too slow it took about 2 hours to install 'wget' on the instance. can anyone point me to where I maybe able to debug this issue? | 18:34 |
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| nettie | Hi guys, I was wondeirng what opensource highly available block storage options are consiered production ready for an openstack private cloud? | 20:18 |
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| jidar | anybody using foreman for deploys? I can't seem to find the preconfigured hostgroup stuff in my install - from RDO | 22:16 |
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| Egyptian | hi what does the stack in openstack signify/mean/refer to ? | 22:31 |
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| Salec | When setting up neutron, is the external subnet that you define the actual subnet the physical box is on? | 23:18 |
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