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| orzel | Isotopp: something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTERNAL_IF -j MASQUERADE / | 00:00 |
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| orzel | ? | 00:00 |
| orzel | nope :) | 00:00 |
| orzel | not said anywhere in the doc | 00:00 |
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| orzel | lsoares: what should i use for EXTERNAL_IF ? the bridge ? | 00:01 |
| lsoares | I'm assuming you want to access an "outside" server, like google.com | 00:01 |
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| orzel | yes, or even my physical gateway | 00:02 |
| lsoares | hold on, your setup might be correct, it's just a matter of configuring your gateway (the host) to forward your stuff outside | 00:02 |
| lsoares | oh | 00:02 |
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| lsoares | well | 00:02 |
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| orzel | the compute node has a classical config (dhcp with another computer on my subnet acting as dhcp server / gateway) | 00:02 |
| lsoares | show me a pastebin of your ip ad sh and ip ro sh | 00:02 |
| lsoares | and iptables -L -n -v -t nat for good measure | 00:03 |
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| lsoares | all three commands on the host | 00:03 |
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| orzel | that's a lot :) | 00:03 |
| orzel | http://pastebin.com/gWBhSGcN | 00:03 |
| orzel | vnet0 is an openstack vm | 00:04 |
| Apsu | lsoares: For reference, you can simplify those a bit. ip a, ip r, iptables -t nat -nvL | 00:04 |
| orzel | virbr0 /docker0 are irrelevant here i guess | 00:04 |
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| orzel | lsoares: br100 links enp2s0 and vnet0 | 00:05 |
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| orzel | (and promisc is there, it seems important) | 00:05 |
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| Apsu | Also, though it's more terse, iptables [-t $table] -S [$chain] or iptables-save -c [-t $table], both provide the same syntax rules are added with as output. | 00:05 |
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| lsoares | orzel: can you, from a vm, do ping 10.11.3.3 and 10.11.3.1? | 00:07 |
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| orzel | i can ping 10.11.3.3 (host main ip), and 192.168.0.3 (gateway/dhcp server for the vm) | 00:08 |
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| orzel | i can't ping 10.11.3.1 | 00:08 |
| Apsu | orzel: Btw, you can disable the virbr0 bridge and associated iptables rules (which are just noise) with two commands: virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart --disable default | 00:08 |
| orzel | not anything else behind | 00:08 |
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| lsoares | interesting. Please show me the contents of your FORWARD chain in the filter table | 00:08 |
| orzel | lsoares: i'm not as familiar with iptables | 00:09 |
| Apsu | Might be useful also to show "sysctl -a | grep forward" just in case a per-interface forwarding flag was disabled even though the global ip_forward flag was enabled. | 00:09 |
| orzel | lsoares: this ? http://pastebin.com/fayMQYPB | 00:09 |
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| lsoares | Apsu: ip a and ip r! NICE | 00:10 |
| Apsu | orzel: Did you setup those rules yourself? | 00:10 |
| orzel | Apsu, lsoares : http://pastebin.com/W98YzRdx | 00:10 |
| Apsu | Oh, wait, that's just virbr0 | 00:10 |
| Apsu | And docker0 | 00:10 |
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| orzel | Apsu: nope | 00:10 |
| Apsu | So pretty much all noise. | 00:10 |
| Apsu | lsoares: "ip l" too :) | 00:10 |
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| orzel | mm.. at least i'll have learnt some ip commands :) | 00:11 |
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| lsoares | check if nova-filter-top nova-network-FORWARD and nova-compute-FORWARD are empty. if so, rules 4 and 5 ensure you get your packet through. | 00:12 |
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| lsoares | you can also try to do a tcpdump -i virbr0 while trying to ping something from the vm | 00:13 |
| Apsu | You can also just paste iptables-save -c -t filter, which will help you see the packet counts | 00:13 |
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| orzel | lsoares: this ? http://pastebin.com/DVdmChe5 | 00:13 |
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| Apsu | Not virbr0, that's the default libvirt network, unrelated to openstack. | 00:13 |
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| Apsu | br100 :) | 00:13 |
| lsoares | ohhhh | 00:13 |
| lsoares | OHHHH | 00:13 |
| lsoares | so | 00:13 |
| orzel | (ouch?) | 00:13 |
| orzel | i did not do those | 00:13 |
| orzel | i swear :) | 00:13 |
| Apsu | I know. | 00:13 |
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| Apsu | orzel: You can disable the virbr0 bridge and associated iptables rules (which are just noise) with two commands: virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart --disable default | 00:14 |
| orzel | it's not .... dangerous, promessed ? | 00:14 |
| Apsu | Nope. | 00:14 |
| orzel | done | 00:14 |
| lsoares | hm... default policy is still accept, so we're going to need to see those nova-filter, nova-network and nova-compute from the filter table | 00:14 |
| lsoares | oh | 00:14 |
| Apsu | orzel: Show me "ip a" and "brctl show" | 00:14 |
| lsoares | you pasted it already | 00:14 |
| lsoares | yea pretty much a blank accept | 00:15 |
| orzel | http://pastebin.com/kQQJE153 | 00:15 |
| lsoares | ip a is here: http://pastebin.com/gWBhSGcN | 00:15 |
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| orzel | i can post the whole iptables-save at this point.. | 00:15 |
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| lsoares | no need I got what I needed | 00:15 |
| lsoares | also | 00:16 |
| lsoares | your vm ip is 192.168.0.3 ? | 00:16 |
| Apsu | orzel: Which IP range is the VM on, and which IP range is the public access? | 00:16 |
| orzel | nope the vm ip is 0.2 | 00:16 |
| lsoares | because you only have masquerade for 192.168.122.x | 00:16 |
| Apsu | No, that's their bridge IP, which means it's the DHCP server | 00:16 |
| Apsu | orzel: Which IP range is the VM on, and which IP range is the public access? | 00:16 |
| lsoares | he needs masquerade for 192.168.0.0/24 | 00:16 |
| orzel | vm stuff is 192.168. and my physical network is 10.11.3.* | 00:16 |
| orzel | and yes 192.168.0.3 is the dhcp server | 00:17 |
| lsoares | right now you only have masquerade for 192.168.122.0/24, which is the libvirt default stuff | 00:17 |
| lsoares | so you can try something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 \! -d 192.168.122.0/24 -j MASQUERADE | 00:18 |
| Apsu | It's not going to do what you want exactly like this. Your default gateway for your VM is going to be 192.168.0.3 | 00:18 |
| lsoares | or -d \!, not sure. | 00:18 |
| Apsu | Which will hit the bridge, and pop into the host's routing table | 00:18 |
| Apsu | Presumably the 10.x gateway is the default route | 00:19 |
| orzel | yes gateway for vm is 192.168.0.3 | 00:19 |
| Apsu | So it will then get routed back into the bridge interface -- but that won't work. | 00:19 |
| orzel | 10.11.3.1 is the physical gateway on my network | 00:19 |
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| Apsu | Because that's a split-horizon or hairpin routing setup. | 00:19 |
| orzel | ouch, you really want to loose me! | 00:19 |
| Apsu | Basically, what you need to do is not have enp2s0 in this bridge, and have the 10.x IP directly on enp2s0 | 00:20 |
| lsoares | 49 2534 ACCEPT all -- * * 192.168.0.0/20 10.11.3.1 | 00:20 |
| lsoares | this is the problem | 00:20 |
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| Apsu | So that your VM will go -> (routing) br100 -> host -> enp2s0 -> (routing) upstream gateway | 00:20 |
| orzel | before playing with openstack enp2s0 was using dhcp and would got 10.11.3.3 | 00:20 |
| lsoares | I'm not even sure how you got 49 packets hitting this rule | 00:20 |
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| Apsu | orzel: Did you put enp2s0 in br100 and move the IP or did openstack do it for you? | 00:21 |
| orzel | i think i did | 00:21 |
| Apsu | orzel: Show your nova.conf | 00:21 |
| orzel | was specified in doc | 00:21 |
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| Apsu | Well, at least the flat_interface and public_interface and other networking parts | 00:21 |
| Apsu | If you've got sensitive bits in there, you can censor or leave them out | 00:22 |
| Apsu | Because we can totally fix this :P | 00:22 |
| orzel | Apsu: you mean i would need a bridge with only one interface (vnet0) ? | 00:22 |
| Apsu | Yep. And the masquerade iptables rule for traffic leaving enp2s0 | 00:22 |
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| Apsu | You can't in normal circumstances route out the same interface you routed in from. | 00:22 |
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| Apsu | Which is what you're trying to do with br100 here. | 00:22 |
| Apsu | You can Bridge back into the same port (known as hairpinning), but to route back in requires hairpinning and disabling split-horizon protection | 00:23 |
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| Apsu | Which is just a bad idea in 99% of cases | 00:23 |
| Apsu | Now, you can DNAT reflect off the same interface, but that happens in prerouting | 00:24 |
| Apsu | Which is why it works. | 00:24 |
| Apsu | What you're attempting to do happens in routing and postrouting, though, which is a no good :) | 00:24 |
| orzel | here's 'abridged' nova.conf. I removed few passwed (db,rabbit) and removed all comments http://pastebin.com/EeEWmGMi | 00:24 |
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| orzel | Apsu: does the original problem come from the fact that i have only one nic on the host ? | 00:25 |
| orzel | it kinda make it harder, right ? | 00:25 |
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| Apsu | Ah yes. FlatDHCPManager. Been a few years now.... but iirc, your public_interface=enp2s0 is the issue. Think you'll need it to be public_interface=br100 | 00:25 |
| Apsu | Let me go look it up | 00:26 |
| orzel | i'm surprised by nework_size=254 | 00:26 |
| orzel | ah, no, ok, "private subnet" | 00:27 |
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| orzel | actually, i would feel more comfortable having back my original setup, with enps0 getting an ip from dhcp | 00:28 |
| orzel | but all doc say not to assign it any ip, only to the bridge | 00:28 |
| Apsu | Try setting public_interface=br100, and move the 10.x IP off br100 back onto enp2s0 | 00:28 |
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| Apsu | Then make sure you have an iptables rule in the nat table, postrouting chain, with -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE | 00:29 |
| Apsu | I.e., iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE | 00:29 |
| Apsu | After you modify the nova.conf, remove enp2s0 from br100 (brctl delif br100 enp2s0), and move the IP off br100 and onto enp2s0, restart nova-network | 00:30 |
| orzel | that means i should add some iptables magic outside from nova ? | 00:30 |
| Apsu | iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE, outside of nova, yes. | 00:30 |
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| orzel | oops. sorry. | 00:41 |
| orzel | i needed to reconfigure my route too, previous was through br100, not working anymore | 00:42 |
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| orzel | and i was preempted by baby crying :) | 00:42 |
| orzel | back to work | 00:42 |
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| orzel | Apsu: i did what you say. nova.conf changed, enp2s0 out of bridge and has an ip on its own, nova-network restarted | 00:44 |
| orzel | and iptable rule added | 00:44 |
| Apsu | orzel: See if you can ping the 10.x on enp2s0 from the VM | 00:45 |
| Apsu | Then the 10.x upstream gateway | 00:45 |
| orzel | i can ping 10.11.3.3 (host) and not 10.11.3.1 (gateway) | 00:45 |
| orzel | as before | 00:45 |
| orzel | it's slightly worse even : from the vm, i can still ping 192.168.0.3, which is in /etc/resolv.conf | 00:45 |
| orzel | but i can't actually resolve | 00:45 |
| Apsu | Show me "iptables -t nat -nvL POSTROUTING" | 00:46 |
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| orzel | ouch, i can't resolve from my own pc :) | 00:46 |
| orzel | fixed | 00:46 |
| orzel | Apsu: http://pastebin.com/3aY9ZmA0 | 00:46 |
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| orzel | Apsu: wait, now i can ping google from vm | 00:47 |
| orzel | but i got each line twice ("dup") | 00:47 |
| Apsu | You've got promiscuous mode on something. Presumably your bridge. | 00:47 |
| orzel | i still can't ping 10.11.3.1 | 00:47 |
| orzel | though. weird | 00:47 |
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| orzel | bridge has promiscuous, yes | 00:47 |
| Apsu | Yep, disable it | 00:47 |
| orzel | it's asked everywhere | 00:47 |
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| Apsu | ip l s dev br100 promisc off | 00:48 |
| Apsu | Make sure it's not on enp2s0 either | 00:48 |
| orzel | i was googling :) | 00:48 |
| orzel | done. | 00:48 |
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| orzel | ip a | grep prom -i -> returns nothing | 00:49 |
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| orzel | ping google now perfect | 00:49 |
| Apsu | There we go. | 00:49 |
| Apsu | :D | 00:49 |
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| orzel | it's still weird somehow. i can't ping 10.11.3.1 form the vm | 00:49 |
| orzel | i can from the host | 00:49 |
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| orzel | ah, there's some weird route though | 00:50 |
| Apsu | On the host? | 00:50 |
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| Apsu | orzel: Show me "ip a; ip r; brctl show", now :) | 00:51 |
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| orzel | the famous one | 00:51 |
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| orzel | http://pastebin.com/dBCsrDXy | 00:52 |
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| orzel | er, wait | 00:52 |
| orzel | nova-network shuffled it all no ? | 00:52 |
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| Apsu | Apparently it did shuffle it all again. | 00:53 |
| Apsu | There's another option, with this config, that might work. | 00:53 |
| Apsu | Can try it | 00:54 |
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| farsonic | anyone able to assist with how I access nova API from external hosts | 00:54 |
| Apsu | orzel: Add an iptables postrouting masquerade rule, but this time instead of -o enp2s0, use -m physdev --physdev-out enp2s0 | 00:55 |
| farsonic | when I communicate to my openstack server through an external NAT device I can authenticate to Keystone but the subsequent requests from nova come from the internal address | 00:55 |
| farsonic | which isn't routable | 00:55 |
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| Apsu | orzel: i.e., iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -m physdev --physdev-out enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE | 00:55 |
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| orzel | Apsu: i delete the previous one ? | 00:56 |
| Apsu | orzel: You can, doesn't matter, so long as the new rule is above the old one, just to test it out | 00:56 |
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| orzel | done | 00:56 |
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| orzel | doesn't change much. i can still ping google but not my gateway | 00:57 |
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| Apsu | orzel: Did you set physical_interface=br100 in nova.conf on this node before you restarted nova-network? | 00:57 |
| orzel | Apsu: it feels strange to have an iptable. My setup is supposed to be ... common, no ? nova-network should manage to handle it... nope ? | 00:57 |
| Apsu | Rather, public_interface= | 00:58 |
| orzel | Apsu: public_interface=br100 yes, before restarting | 00:58 |
| Apsu | Wait... I forgot... nova-network lets you specify information about interfaces when you create the network | 00:58 |
| Apsu | Uhm... nova network-show $networkname? | 00:58 |
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| Apsu | (network-list to list 'em) | 00:59 |
| orzel | "Woah, you have reached your paste limit of 10 pastes per 24 hours. Either wait a litte or sign up for a free account to get higher limits." | 01:00 |
| orzel | :) | 01:00 |
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| orzel | http://dpaste.com/3554W3D/ | 01:00 |
| Apsu | There it is. bridge_interface=enp2s0 | 01:01 |
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| orzel | there's also flat_interface=enp2s0 | 01:03 |
| orzel | in nova.conf | 01:03 |
| farsonic | ok, looks like I need to define public_url | 01:03 |
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| Apsu | orzel: Yeah, I think that needs to be br100 too, to do things a bit differently. But on the other hand... your setup seems to work at present, minus not talking to the gateway. *can* you ping the gateway from the host, even? | 01:04 |
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| Apsu | orzel: It's possible ICMP is just blocked on your gateway :P | 01:04 |
| orzel | i can from the host, yes | 01:04 |
| orzel | (first thing i tried) | 01:04 |
| Apsu | Fun | 01:04 |
| Apsu | Uhm... | 01:04 |
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| Apsu | What's sysctl -a | grep call, show? There should be three nf_call_iptables type flags, are they 0 or 1? | 01:05 |
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| orzel | all three are set to '1' | 01:05 |
| Apsu | Alrighty | 01:06 |
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| orzel | Apsu: pff.. i got another huge problem. I kinda started to config neutron. Didn't go much after declaring the service in keystone | 01:08 |
| orzel | but now horizon is all fool about network, even though i've removed the service since | 01:09 |
| orzel | ouch, i can't connect to horizon anymore | 01:09 |
| orzel | !# | 01:09 |
| openstack | orzel: Error: "#" is not a valid command. | 01:09 |
| orzel | hi bot | 01:10 |
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| orzel | Apsu: fixed. the bad bits were stored in the cookies... :/ | 01:36 |
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| orzel | apsu : according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/UnderstandingFlatNetworking | 01:38 |
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| orzel | it's supposed to work with only one nic on compute node | 01:38 |
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| orzel | Apsu: i removed the masquerading rules (both -o enp2s0 and -m physdev) | 01:40 |
| orzel | and my vm can still ping | 01:40 |
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| orzel | (google, that is) | 01:40 |
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| orzel | could it be than only changing the nova.conf:public_interface did it ? | 01:42 |
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| orzel | Apsu, lsoares : gotta go. Thanks a lot for your help and your time ! | 01:53 |
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| monotreme_man | i'm installing icehouse and am up to testing the glance installation. when i try to do a "glance image-create", it fails with a "2014-06-04 16:09:24.498 3790 WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 10.0.20.11" (from the keystone.log). i've checked the glance .conf files (for keystone_authtoken) and they seem correct. any suggestions on what to do next? | 01:58 |
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| troya | anyone have experience in copy cinde storage service ? | 02:05 |
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| troya | anyone know about cinder ? | 03:56 |
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| mdim | Hi all! I'm trying to follow instructions from http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/ch_glance.html to set up Glance. I have Keystone, and during installation of Glance, I've selected Keystone as a caching type | 04:53 |
| mdim | however, when I run "glance image-list", I get: "Request returned failure status. Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials." | 04:54 |
| mdim | any clue why? | 04:54 |
| mdim | Keystone works normally | 04:54 |
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| dexter_morgan | hi all | 05:50 |
| dexter_morgan | i have created two network and each network has an instance | 05:50 |
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| dexter_morgan | but instance is not not able to ping its gateway | 05:50 |
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| dexter_morgan | i have installed ciorros os on each instances | 05:51 |
| dexter_morgan | but the are not communicating | 05:51 |
| dexter_morgan | please suggest | 05:51 |
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| troya | anyone know about cinder ? | 06:13 |
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| dexter_morgan | cinder is basically help to create secondary storage | 06:14 |
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| deepakcs | Anyone has any tips on how to troubeshoot when nova boot... gets stuck in 'spawning' state forever ? | 06:14 |
| deepakcs | I am in a devstack setup, and I don't see any errors in n-cpu screen/log | 06:14 |
| deepakcs | Is it possible to get stuck if disk space is low (I have around 4.5G free) | 06:15 |
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| deepakcs | troya, Cinder is block storage as a service component of openstack. Check http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/ for more details | 06:16 |
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| deepakcs | troya, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder would be good place to begin with too | 06:17 |
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| troya | deepakcs: is it need specify partition to create it ? | 06:17 |
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| troya | is possible to create it with partioion which same with system ? | 06:18 |
| deepakcs | troya, it depends on what storage backend (LVM is default) u want to use with cinder. You can specify the backend using /etc/cinder/cinder.conf file. | 06:19 |
| deepakcs | troya, you don't create Cinder, you use it, with the different storage backends it supports | 06:19 |
| troya | yes, i want to use LVM | 06:19 |
| troya | so i need different partioion. not same on system partiotion, right ? | 06:19 |
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| dexter_morgan | instances can not ping their gateway ip?? please help | 06:21 |
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| troya | deepakcs: is in cinder also store vm and data inside it ? | 06:25 |
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| deepakcs | troya, per openstack rules, cinder volumes is used to store data. VM image is taken from glance service | 06:26 |
| troya | i mean instance | 06:26 |
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| troya | is if i created instance, then it will store on cinder incude the data inside instance too ? | 06:27 |
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| mischief_ | hi | 07:33 |
| mischief_ | was it a bad idea to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 lts server to 14.04 before upgrading openstack havana? | 07:33 |
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| halbert | hey, anyone up? I've been messing with this stupid neutron-server error for over a week | 07:41 |
| halbert | neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-836c4246-ca1a-44d2-8e95-06fad72da1ef None] Failed to bind port b88fede0-43ac-45a8-9ffc-2fafe02f49f4 on host nova03 | 07:41 |
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| halbert | I've checked and rechecked and rechecked the install guide and this is really frigging frustrating | 07:41 |
| halbert | I need this lab up or I can't continue with my work, anyone? | 07:42 |
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| halbert | Is there a bug or some additional configs that I have to be aware of ? | 07:42 |
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| halbert | Does the official install guide actually work? | 07:42 |
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| Thumper650 | Greets all, I was wondering which of the openstack #'s would be the best place to discus a slightly unconventional console configuration | 08:06 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - generally speaking, I think so - I haven't personally done any ml2 implementations. My last implementation from the docs was on Grizzly. | 08:06 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - I take it that you have the neutron agent on your compute node? perhaps you can pastein the full trace? | 08:07 |
| odyssey4me | Thumper650 - this is the usage channel, so if it's a usage/operations discussion, then this would be the right channel. | 08:07 |
| odyssey4me | ie this would be a good starting point - we can always refer you elsewhere | 08:08 |
| Thumper650 | cool... | 08:08 |
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| troya | is possible to move my cinder to another openstack machine ? | 08:09 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - do you mean the cinder service? or do you mean something else? | 08:10 |
| troya | yes, cinder service | 08:10 |
| troya | is it possible to move to another openstack machine ? | 08:10 |
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| Thumper650 | I'm working on rolling out a redunant OS environemnt with most services being reachable via a HA'd floating IP address and a loadbalancer. Pretty much everything is working well, but I'm fighting with Console. If I 'down' one track of the HA (controller-01 and compute-01) I can get console just fine, but if I enable all controllers and compute nodes, console breaks, probably because I've set novncproxy_base_url to a balanced virtual IP. | 08:11 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - you can run multiple cinder services on multiple servers, each service is stateless. The only trouble may be with currently mounted volumes. I'm not sure if you can just switch off the previous service without affecting currently mounted volumes. | 08:11 |
| odyssey4me | I think that may be something to determine on a driver by driver basis. | 08:12 |
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| odyssey4me | Thumper650 - if you have multiple nova-consoleauth services running, then the scheduler allocates them on a round robin basis... resulting in a successful connection once for every n agents | 08:13 |
| odyssey4me | So if you have two agents, you may find that you're successfully connecting every two attempts? | 08:13 |
| troya | odyssey4me: is not possible to just a copy ? not replicate | 08:14 |
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| odyssey4me | The way to get it successful every time is to ensure that you implement memcached on the hosts running nova-consoleauth, and to configure nova-consoleauth to refer to all instances of memcached. This way the tokens are referrable on all of them. | 08:14 |
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| odyssey4me | Thumper650 - another way is to disable the service through the cli/API on the consoleauth agents you're not using at the time (ie implement active/passive HA). You can then script the enable/disable when the VIP transitions. | 08:16 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - you can run as many cinder-api/cinder-volume processes as you want, and the config for cinder-volume would be for each back-end. If the back-end interacts with a storage API (eg: NetApp/IBM/etc) then instance volume connections shouldn't be interrupted if one of the cinder-volume services go down. | 08:19 |
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| odyssey4me | (this is because the actual connection from the hypervisor goes directly to the storage, cinder-volume simply facilitates it) | 08:20 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - a pretty good overview of the above is here: http://www.slideshare.net/avishaytraeger/cinder-havana | 08:22 |
| Thumper650 | Thanks Od, will get back to you with how it goes | 08:22 |
| odyssey4me | (dunno if that helps) | 08:22 |
| odyssey4me | Thumper650 - sure, no problem. Hope that helps. | 08:23 |
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| troya | odyssey4me: so i can't do backup and restore, right ? just can replicate | 08:24 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - if by replicate you mean run multiple agents, that's an option. You can backup/restore too if you don't want to do an HA implementation. | 08:25 |
| odyssey4me | (why choose when you can do both?) | 08:26 |
| troya | cod: i just want to backup/restore | 08:26 |
| troya | any reference for that ? | 08:26 |
| odyssey4me | troya - alright. reference in terms of what's important to backup? | 08:26 |
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| troya | just reference about step by step to do that | 08:27 |
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| troya | but in my case, i backup on openstack on machine1, then can i restore to openstack on machine2 ? | 08:28 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - step by step, not really. The Operations Guide gives you guidance, but step-by-step would be too deployment specific. | 08:28 |
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| odyssey4me | Ops Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/backup_and_recovery.html | 08:28 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - you don't really need to back things up, except the configs, logs and /var/lib/cinder.... to restore, simply implement the packages, restore the configs and /var/lib/cinder, then start the service | 08:30 |
| odyssey4me | that's covered in general in the docs | 08:30 |
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| odyssey4me | note that this is just the service backup/restore - not instance/volume data backup/restore | 08:31 |
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| troya | is possible to backup and restore volume data ? | 08:34 |
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| odyssey4me | troya - sure, you can use any standard backup tooling and method for that | 08:41 |
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| odyssey4me | you can either do it from inside the instances, or you can do it on the back-end if your block storage subsystem supports a method to do so | 08:41 |
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| tvb | hi how can I see the actual quota of my tenant? | 09:07 |
| tvb | ram quota | 09:08 |
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| tvb | quota-show shows me a number which does not add up to the actual quota for all the instances combined. | 09:08 |
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| halbert | odyssey4me: I can pastebin the full debug output, do you want the neutron-agent or do you want the nova-compute ? I have the debug output but I don't think that's exactly what you want | 09:11 |
| odyssey4me | halbert - do both, try to capture the time from launching the instance through to the error for both agents | 09:12 |
| halbert | I can do that. | 09:12 |
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| halbert | odyssey4me: nova debug logs: http://pastebin.com/ZgGmURBQ | 09:20 |
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| halbert | http://pastebin.com/PzRYuunH | 09:22 |
| halbert | neutron server debug logs | 09:22 |
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| tvb | it seems I am having an issue with 'reserved' ram quota_usage. what does the reserved quota_usage mean? | 09:27 |
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| halbert | odyssey4me: sorry about the spam, this is a more complete set: | 09:37 |
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| halbert | http://pastebin.com/ArgGjFbq neutron-server log | 09:37 |
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| halbert | http://pastebin.com/Mf0eKku5 nova-compute log | 09:37 |
| halbert | http://pastebin.com/5hBX98Aa neutron-agent log | 09:38 |
| halbert | just reams and reams of this crap | 09:38 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - will check it now, just finishing something else up | 09:42 |
| halbert | thanks man | 09:42 |
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| halbert | tvb: you said your resources defined and used don't add up, what do you mean? | 09:45 |
| Ange7 | hey all | 09:45 |
| halbert | do you have vms using more or less than what you thought you could ? | 09:45 |
| tvb | halbert: so I am getting this error | 09:45 |
| tvb | ERROR: Quota exceeded for ram: Requested 64512, but already used 139264 of 153600 ram (HTTP 413) (Request-ID: req-03b0d044-040b-4f20-87fb-5a046a31bd25) | 09:45 |
| tvb | however | 09:45 |
| Ange7 | someone can explain how type of request that i need to do to store one picture with swift ? | 09:46 |
| tvb | when I calculate the actual usage of my instances it does not add up | 09:46 |
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| halbert | ahhh okay. how far are you short ? | 09:46 |
| tvb | I am using 9126 mb | 09:47 |
| tvb | in real | 09:47 |
| mAniAk-_- | Ange7: you put your fingers on the keyboard and push them down | 09:47 |
| tvb | but found the following | 09:47 |
| mAniAk-_- | e | 09:47 |
| tvb | halbert: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/967f5ce1fb0b6a3cbaf4 | 09:47 |
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| halbert | Ange7: assuming you have your openstack credentials, you can just check source your openstackrc file, do a swift stat, and see if you can log in | 09:47 |
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| tvb | when you add up the in-usage and reserved column it will give you the 139264 value. | 09:48 |
| tvb | so where does the reserved values are coming from? | 09:48 |
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| halbert | Ange7: once you can do that, you should refer to here as your reference for pushing and pulling to swift via the swift cli tool: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/swift_commands.html | 09:48 |
| halbert | aight tvb, I'll check | 09:48 |
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| Ange7 | thank halbert | 09:49 |
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| djalil | someone can help me | 09:49 |
| djalil | ? | 09:49 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - odd, I don't see anything in the nova log instructing the actual build... all I see is the one ERROR log line indicating that the instance disappeared before it finished building | 09:50 |
| djalil | i got a problem on rabbitmq | 09:50 |
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| odyssey4me | djalil - ask your question, it generally gets no response if you ask if you can ask :) | 09:50 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - just a question though, which ml2 plugin are you using? openvswitch? | 09:51 |
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| halbert | odyssey4me: it errors out as it tries to spawn the build, and it errors consistently when it asks for the network | 09:51 |
| halbert | yeah man | 09:51 |
| halbert | I use openvswitch... | 09:51 |
| odyssey4me | and you have nova.conf configured to tell it to use neutron? | 09:52 |
| halbert | yeah odyssey4me | 09:52 |
| halbert | I can paste you the config files if you want. | 09:52 |
| halbert | s/paste/pastebin | 09:52 |
| halbert | /g | 09:52 |
| djalil | i'm installing openstack ice single node on debian without debconf and until a configure nova rabbitmq was working but now when i try to do nova list th server responding connection refused | 09:52 |
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| halbert | tvb: I'm perplexed. I've never seen that shit before in grizzly or in folsom | 09:53 |
| halbert | I'm looking at the api page for the reserved quotas here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.quota.html | 09:54 |
| tvb | halbert: I am using icehouse | 09:54 |
| halbert | tvb: I have a fresh but borked icehouse install | 09:54 |
| halbert | which table is this at ? | 09:55 |
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| farsonic | evening all | 09:55 |
| tvb | mysql> select * from quota_usages where project_id = 'xxx' and resource = 'ram'; | 09:55 |
| farsonic | wondering if anyone can help me with API access | 09:56 |
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| farsonic | specifically looking to be able to access my openstack server from the local LAN and also from an external public IP address through NAT | 09:56 |
| odyssey4me | djalil - you'll need to be clearer. I don't understand the situation and the problem. | 09:57 |
| farsonic | the problem is, if I reconfigure the public_url etc it breaks all my internal LAN access | 09:57 |
| halbert | tvb: all my reserved as 0s | 09:57 |
| halbert | have you been doing migrations from host to host ? | 09:57 |
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| tvb | halbert: I have had 2 resizes stuck in resize_prep state which eventually were being manually terminated by me. | 09:58 |
| odyssey4me | farsonic - you could use a split horizon dns to solve that. public endpoints are configured with DNS names, external DNS points to the pubilc IP and internal DNS points to the private IP | 09:58 |
| tvb | guess, those could be causing the issue. | 09:58 |
| odyssey4me | farsonic - or you could use a reverse proxy which rewrites the endpoint's for the public exposure | 09:58 |
| halbert | tvb: were you resizing them to be larger ? | 09:59 |
| tvb | larger, yes. | 09:59 |
| odyssey4me | farsonic - or you could configure all the services to use the internal endpoints only, and then the public endpoints can be configured to have the public addresses | 09:59 |
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| halbert | tvb: when you resize, what you are actually doing is a migration. Consider the reservation for clearing a space for you to migrate to, and if your quotas weren't roomy enough, then you couldn't migrate | 10:00 |
| farsonic | ok, so I have an internal IP address of 192.168.1.25 (for example) | 10:00 |
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| farsonic | and a public Ip address of 200.0.0.10 (for example) | 10:00 |
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| halbert | in this case, you borked the migrate in a manner where the middle ware never went back to the table to clear up the mess | 10:00 |
| halbert | so you have stuff reserved, for nothing | 10:00 |
| tvb | halbert: I do think the quota's were roomy enough. | 10:00 |
| farsonic | so, reconfigure everthing for a hostname.... | 10:00 |
| halbert | well, what did you opt to resize to? | 10:00 |
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| farsonic | configure external DNS and internal DNS or static host entires? | 10:01 |
| farsonic | I've reconfigured public endpoints (public_url) to be the public address, but it totally broke internal access | 10:01 |
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| farsonic | not sure if that is correct | 10:01 |
| halbert | It's 5 in the morning over here, and it's been a terribly long night tvb so forgive me if I am not understanding you properly. | 10:02 |
| tvb | halbert: no worries. go to bed then. | 10:02 |
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| tvb | halbert: if I run quota-show | 10:03 |
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| tvb | it will show me the current quota of RAM in mb's right? | 10:03 |
| halbert | I believe so. | 10:03 |
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| tvb | hmm so when it says 153600 it would mean I have a quota of 153GB? | 10:03 |
| halbert | I think the unit is in ram | 10:04 |
| farsonic | halbert - I'm updating the public/admin/internal URL's directly in the mysql DB | 10:04 |
| farsonic | shoudl I be doing this some other way | 10:04 |
| halbert | farsonic: golly NO | 10:04 |
| farsonic | difficult to find good references to how to this | 10:04 |
| farsonic | :) | 10:04 |
| halbert | use keystone endpoint-related commands | 10:04 |
| farsonic | so, just chante the public_url to a DNS entry then? | 10:05 |
| halbert | You could do it in mysql, I think it's normally faster if you know exactly what you are doing, but you can associate more than one endpoint to a service | 10:05 |
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| halbert | keystone endpoint-create the new one and blow away the old one after you are done by keystone endpoint-delete is also a perfectly appropriate way | 10:06 |
| farsonic | I have all the mysql commands all ready to go…..but I'm still learning here | 10:06 |
| farsonic | last time I created a new one it basically locked me out | 10:06 |
| farsonic | as I had two overlapping entries | 10:06 |
| farsonic | ok | 10:06 |
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| farsonic | so, should I just change the public_url entry to a public DNS nam | 10:07 |
| farsonic | e | 10:07 |
| halbert | tvb: yeah, the ram unit seems to be in megs | 10:07 |
| tvb | halbert: ok. So I have a quota of 153GB | 10:08 |
| tvb | did an resize to a flavor of 64GB. | 10:08 |
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| tvb | two times | 10:08 |
| halbert | I think that's what it says... | 10:08 |
| halbert | Ahh hah | 10:08 |
| halbert | so that's 128 declared | 10:08 |
| tvb | jep | 10:08 |
| tvb | apperanlty | 10:08 |
| halbert | and you had 25 left | 10:08 |
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| tvb | it does not release the reserved mem when you terminate an instance which has state resize_prep | 10:09 |
| halbert | yeah it does that. | 10:09 |
| halbert | you're gonna find that stopping most actions midway manually might leave the tables in a funky state | 10:10 |
| halbert | like snapshotting | 10:10 |
| tvb | wouldn't this be a bug? | 10:10 |
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| halbert | well, I consider it a feature if you enjoy punching yourself in the nuts | 10:10 |
| tvb | hah | 10:10 |
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| halbert | But I'm just a user of free shit, so there needs to be some sort of 'garbage collection', and I'm not smart enough to implement it. | 10:11 |
| halbert | gzuz look at that grammar | 10:11 |
| halbert | I gotta bounce, odyssey4me, who is a good point of contact in the morning where I can plead for someone to go over my neutron configs | 10:12 |
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| tvb | halbert: thanks. | 10:12 |
| halbert | tvb: np | 10:12 |
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| odyssey4me | farsonic - yeah, use the keystone cli to change the public endpoint to the dns name that resolves both externally and internally - just ensure that internal and external resolution go to different IP's and that the services are listening on both IP's (or use a NAT from the public to the internal) | 10:14 |
| farsonic | yep, using NAT for external access | 10:14 |
| odyssey4me | halbert - take a break, then work back through the installation steps again to confirm your nova and neutron configs on your controllers and computes | 10:14 |
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| odyssey4me | halbert - otherwise, not sure... I've used config mgmt tooling (Chef) to do my configs for ages, doing it manually is the 'hard way' ;) | 10:15 |
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| odyssey4me | farsonic - you could use hosts entries for the internal resolution, yeah | 10:16 |
| halbert | aight, I'll come back... this is so hilarious. I got a full ceph install going, quad bond nics going and everything except for this took me 2 days. I've been stuck with the vm spawning and erroring out for over a week. I'm not sure what the fuck I'm doing wrong :) | 10:16 |
| halbert | good night | 10:16 |
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| farsonic | thansk | 10:16 |
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| farsonic | see ya | 10:17 |
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| odyssey4me | farsonic - generally, with grizzly or above, you don't need to dig in the DB to change/fix things.... rather use the cli tools to enact changes | 10:18 |
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| farsonic | yeah | 10:18 |
| farsonic | I need a crash course on this stuff | 10:18 |
| farsonic | this is running grizzly | 10:18 |
| farsonic | I'll work out the corresponding changes using the keystone app now | 10:19 |
| odyssey4me | farsonic - the safest would be to register the new endpoints, confirm they're working, then remove the old ones | 10:20 |
| farsonic | yep | 10:20 |
| farsonic | thanks | 10:20 |
| farsonic | will do | 10:20 |
| odyssey4me | you can also actually just have two sets of endpoints :) | 10:20 |
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| farsonic | yeah | 10:21 |
| farsonic | I tried that and it ended up locking me out of logging in to the system | 10:21 |
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| farsonic | well, authenticating against keystone | 10:22 |
| farsonic | but, I'm learning | 10:22 |
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| farsonic | I'm sure your right as thats the first thing I tried - as it looked obvious | 10:22 |
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| odyssey4me | farsonic - if you have two endpoints for each service you may need to specify which one you want to use when you auth... | 10:22 |
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| odyssey4me | when changing the endpoints you can choose to use the service token and the service endpoint, that'll allow you to speak through the back-end | 10:23 |
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| fritzroy15 | hello, I'm running into the "Could not find service or region in service catalog". I've set the region to RegionOne, and here is my keystone service-list, endpoint-list and nova.conf: http://pastebin.com/YseyUH0f | 10:43 |
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| fritzroy15 | can anyone provide a pointer in the right direction? :) | 10:44 |
| fritzroy15 | anand_ts you around? :D | 10:45 |
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| anand_ts | fritzroy15, hello, yes | 10:46 |
| fritzroy15 | anand_ts can you cast your wise gaze into what my newbishness is doing wrong? ^_^ | 10:47 |
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| anand_ts | fritzroy15: what issue you are facing exactly? | 10:50 |
| fritzroy15 | anand_ts in my nova.log file I get Could not find service or region in service catalog | 10:51 |
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| |splat| | fixed my novnc issue. had to add iptables rules to allow the nodes to talk over their internal subnet. | 12:51 |
| wink | Hey, can I just add a logical volume for something else to the cinder-volumes VG or will cinder tamper with it? | 12:51 |
| |splat| | I used packstack to install which only used the headnode external IP | 12:51 |
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| larsks | wink: I think you should be able to add an lv to the cinder vg without ill effect. | 12:52 |
| larsks | |splat|: yay! | 12:52 |
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| wink | larsks: thanks. | 12:56 |
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| Infitialis | what kind of monitoring tools do you guys use for Openstack? | 12:59 |
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| |splat| | hmm. fedora, centos, and cirros have no issue using both the internal network and external network. but the windows vm i made with cloudbase-init seems to only be working on the internal network. and strangely, i can't ping it using ip netns | 13:08 |
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| |splat| | by external i mean a floating ip | 13:08 |
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| kaizer | Hi, does anyone knows if its legal or not to run OSX VM on non Apple machines? My first tought would be to say its not legal, but im not sure.. | 13:19 |
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| meylor | when starting an instance; is there a way to pass in the hostname info other than through a user-data script? | 13:20 |
| mat128 | ianal, but iirc you could legally run OSX vms on Apple machines but not anywhere else. | 13:20 |
| mat128 | meylor: cloudinit should take the instance name and set it as your hostname | 13:20 |
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| meylor | mat128: my hostname is being set as the {instance_name}.{region_name} | 13:21 |
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| meylor | so the only option is to set the region_name to be the domain? | 13:21 |
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| mat128 | meylor: I usually spin up vms with a fqdn such as web1.example.com | 13:22 |
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| mat128 | and this gets set as my hostname | 13:22 |
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| mat128 | what are you using to configure cloudinit? metadata api? config drive? | 13:22 |
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| meylor | metadata api i believe | 13:22 |
| mat128 | I suggest looking at what the data is | 13:23 |
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| mat128 | try a curl to http://169.254.169.254/ | 13:23 |
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| kaizer | mat128: so for this post http://blog.definedcode.com/osx-qemu-kvm, it would be only possible to do it on Apple machine right? | 13:26 |
| nschroeder | Hello, i am new to openstack and triing a setup following the debian install guide. I am at a point where I can run my first vm. When i boot a vm it goes to error state with "The request you have made requires authentication.". I think this comes from compute node. Is there a way to track down my mistake? To my knowlege I entered a correct keystone account for nova compute. | 13:26 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:check the keystone logs, if the error is caused by failed authentication you should see it in there | 13:30 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: Thank you for answering. Yes I can see it in the keystone logs: "Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 10.150.20.21". But it is not clear to me which user is used (I think the one in /etc/nova/nova.conf on the compute node). Also I do not know what to do to allow the user the request. | 13:33 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:that sounds to me more like a mysql auth error | 13:42 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:make sure the mysql user you created for keystone is allowed to connect to mysql from that IP address | 13:42 |
| |splat| | do i need to do anything special to get windows to recognize the floating ip? | 13:43 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: I am pretty sure that works. I connected to the mysql and can see a database named kexstone. Also I can create new users without problems | 13:44 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:try to connect to mysql as user keystone from the keystone node | 13:44 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: ok thank you I will check that | 13:45 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: I checked it, the db credentials from keystone are correct. I think this can not be the problem because I can add new users to keystone and all other authentification works fine. | 13:50 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:ok, then enable debug and verbose in nova.conf on the compute node and keystone.conf on the controller and try again, then paste the logs in pastebin | 13:51 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: I think my nova admin_user or admin_tenant_name has no right to execute the the stuff, keystone denies that. But I am not sure how to allow this operation. How can I allow nova user to start vms? Do I have to add him to the admin role? | 13:51 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: ok I will do that | 13:52 |
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| giorgis | iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE | 13:57 |
| giorgis | has to be inserted every time I start an instance! Any ideas how to resolve this? | 13:57 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:the installation doc should mention that you have to create a user for nova that has the admin role in the "services" tenant (step 8 in here http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-controller.html) | 13:58 |
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| rsmitty | hi all - quick question. I hot-attached a second nic to a guest instance using nova interface-attach. now they are both visible, both have IPs, but I can't SSH into the instance from both interfaces, only the second one works | 14:15 |
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| rsmitty | both nics are on the same network btw | 14:15 |
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| |splat| | giorgis: service iptables save | 14:17 |
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| giorgis | splat it doesn't make any difference | 14:18 |
| giorgis | I have even put it in the rc.local file | 14:19 |
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| giorgis | but every time I start an instance I have to put it again | 14:19 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: I think my problem is that nova has not the admin role, please have a look: http://pastebin.com/uu4cHUgB But I did the user-role-add you mentioned... | 14:19 |
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| |splat| | giorgis: you have to reinsert that on the baremetal? | 14:19 |
| giorgis | splat: yes! | 14:19 |
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| |splat| | sounds to me like it's getting inserted at the bottom of the iptables chain and every time you start a new instance they insert rules above it | 14:20 |
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| dmitryme | rsmitty: while poking around wiki I’ve stumbled upon the following blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/2-if-1-net | 14:20 |
| |splat| | manually edit /etc/sysconfig/iptables, add your line to the top of the chain, restart iptables? | 14:21 |
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| _nick | token_flush should work with keystone-manage in havana, correct? | 14:21 |
| _nick | if so, anyone know why i'm seeing a NotImplemented exception? | 14:21 |
| giorgis | splat: I have done that! | 14:21 |
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| giorgis | splat: I have even put it | 14:21 |
| giorgis | in the /etc/rc.local file | 14:21 |
| dmitryme | rsmitty: so I guess the answer is, currently it is not possible to have to nics in a single net for a single VM | 14:21 |
| dmitryme | s/to/two/ | 14:21 |
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| rsmitty | hmm, okay weird. guess I'll have to figure something else out for now. Thanks for the help! | 14:22 |
| |splat| | then i'm out of ideas. sorry. | 14:22 |
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| giorgis | splat: thanks for your help | 14:23 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:the role assignment looks good, anything useful in the keystone logs with debug enabled? | 14:23 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis:I think you mentioned that you're running nova-network with icehouse...not a very well tested combination probably | 14:24 |
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| giorgis | georgem2: I am back to havana it has the same behavior | 14:25 |
| georgem2 | giorgis: but you said that Havana was working fine | 14:25 |
| giorgis | georgem2: In a previous installation of Havana | 14:25 |
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| giorgis | now I have the latest Havana and latest CentOS release (in terms of kernel etc.) | 14:26 |
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| |splat| | giorgis: have you tried doing the initial install using RDO since you are on centos? | 14:26 |
| nschroeder | georgem2: sorry I am such a noob. For some reason the output did not change but I think I have set the logging level to debug, here is my /etc/keystone/logging.conf : http://pastebin.com/qSzRSRTX | 14:26 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:enable debug in keystone.conf and restart the keystone service | 14:29 |
| giorgis | splat: no! I haven't...but why this would make any difference? | 14:29 |
| nschroeder | georgem2: You said my role assignment looks good. Just to clarify: I am using the nova user and service tenant _not_ admin. Does he really have the rights? I think my user-role-list (see http://pastebin.com/uu4cHUgB) implies that only the user with id ...b0a7 has admin role. As far as I understand nova user has no role ... | 14:30 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder: you have to run "keystone user-role-list --user XX --tenant XXX" as admin if you want to see role assignments for other users, by default it shows your own user's roles | 14:31 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis:it's been a few release since I deployed with nova-network, but no manual iptables changes should be required, so it's very possible is a configuration issue somewhere | 14:33 |
| giorgis | georgem2: I am trying to resolve this with wireshark now | 14:33 |
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| giorgis | what I am seeing is that if I don't put the NAT rule then the source IP is the 192.* which is the internal IP of the FlatDHCP bridge interface | 14:34 |
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| giorgis | when I insert the rule the source IP is getting to be 153.* (an external IP address of the external ethernet) | 14:34 |
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| giorgis | so my guess is that without that rule the packets are not routed from the 192.* internal to the 153.* external nic | 14:35 |
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| giorgis | I would go with neutron but I need auto assign of floating IPs when an instance is started | 14:36 |
| _nick | can anyone shed any light on why i'm seeing a NotImplemented error with keystone-manage token_flush on havana? | 14:36 |
| giorgis | something that to my knowledge is still a blueprint for neutron | 14:36 |
| giorgis | am I right? | 14:36 |
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| djalil | hy everybody i have a little question with openstack ice house there is no need of multiple rabbitmq account ? | 14:36 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: ah ok thank you. I managed to enable debug. Here is the keystone output after a nova delete $instancename: http://pastebin.com/eRu9rPM1 I think i found the problem on my own: The error is my neutron user settings. There is no user called neutron. I will create one and tell you if it works .... | 14:37 |
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| djalil | hy everybody i have a little question with openstack ice house there is no need of multiple rabbitmq account ? | 14:38 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis:I don't think there is auto assign floating IPs in Neutron now, but maybe you can change the way you do things to fit in the more mainstream Openstack networking options | 14:41 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:cool, I guess you rushed to start the first instance before setting up all components :) | 14:41 |
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| giorgis | georgem2: I am afraid that this is not an option at the moment! I would like to keep in pace with the recent developments | 14:42 |
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| giorgis | but not right now...and I am still wondering why the Havana version is not working either :( | 14:42 |
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| georgem2 | rsmitty: about the second NICs connected to the same subnet, check the routing table inside the instance | 14:43 |
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| rsmitty | georgem2 - yeah, I think that's what's happening. default gw is using the eth1 interface (the one I can SSH into). So it seems like maybe I'm not getting traffic back when I try to SSH into eth0? | 14:44 |
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| rsmitty | that may be okay. I can just set the gateway to the eth0 interface in its ifcfg file. | 14:46 |
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| georgem2 | rsmitty:you have a default gw set for the subnet in the dhcp settings of the subnet, so the second interface will win | 14:47 |
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| georgem2 | djalil:there is no need for multiple rabbitmq accounts, but you can create them for security purposes | 14:48 |
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| rsmitty | ah bummer. okay thanks | 14:48 |
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| giorgis | georgem2 + splat: It seems that without that rule the packets are not going from the flat dhcp interface to the external interface | 14:56 |
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| giorgis | any reason why this might be blocked?? | 14:56 |
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| nschroeder | georgem2: Thank you very much, the error is gone now. I learned a lot today, so really thanks. | 15:02 |
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| drankis_off | Hello. Where I can find list of available keys for commands like "cinder type-key" or "cinder qos-key"? | 15:05 |
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| georgem2 | nschroeder:welcome | 15:07 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis:I don't know, but maybe larsks can help :) | 15:10 |
| larsks | georgem2: giorgis: help with what now? | 15:11 |
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| giorgis | hi larsks! | 15:11 |
| larsks | o/ | 15:11 |
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| giorgis | I have a very weird problem! My instances cannot get internet access unless I put the iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE rule | 15:11 |
| giorgis | the problem is that this is needed every time an instance is started | 15:12 |
| larsks | giorgis: is eth1 part of your external bridge? | 15:12 |
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| giorgis | larsks: eth1 is the external interface (no bridge) | 15:12 |
| giorgis | eth0 is the internal bridged with br100 | 15:12 |
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| larsks | giorgis: oh, you're using nova-network. I'm much less familar with that; I've been working primarily with neutron. | 15:13 |
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| larsks | You shouldn't need to add that rule every time an instance is started -- is it disappearing when you start a new instance? | 15:13 |
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| giorgis | larsks: yes it's nova :( I wish neutron had the auto-assing ip functionality :) | 15:13 |
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| giorgis | larsks: is going below the new rules in the nat tables | 15:14 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis: I grepped for MASQUERADE in a centos with the openstack-nova-network rpm installed, and the only mention I found is in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/packstack/puppet/templates/provision.pp | 15:15 |
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| georgem2 | giorgis: and it looks like the puppet manifest used by packstack actually adds that rule | 15:15 |
| giorgis | larsks: I have tried putting it in the top of /etc/sysconfig/iptables | 15:15 |
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| giorgis | larsks: and also in the /etc/rc.local but nothing worked :( | 15:15 |
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| larsks | giorgis: so when that rule is, say, the first rule in the POSTROUTING chain, what happens when you create a new instance? | 15:16 |
| giorgis | larsks: both the old and the new instance don't have external network connectivity until I re-insert it | 15:16 |
| larsks | giorgis: Can you show me what your POSTROUTING chain looks like (a) after booting a new instance but before fixing things and (b) after fixing things? | 15:17 |
| giorgis | sure! | 15:17 |
| giorgis | just give me a second | 15:17 |
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| giorgis | any idea how to paste the lines one below the other directly here? | 15:18 |
| giorgis | Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) | 15:19 |
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| giorgis | target prot opt source destination | 15:19 |
| giorgis | nova-compute-POSTROUTING all -- anywhere anywhere | 15:19 |
| giorgis | nova-network-POSTROUTING all -- anywhere anywhere | 15:19 |
| larsks | giorgis: please use pastebin or similar. don't paste in channel! | 15:19 |
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| giorgis | thought about that... | 15:19 |
| giorgis | doing it right now... | 15:19 |
| giorgis | sorry ... | 15:19 |
| larsks | You could: iptables -t nat -S | curl -s -T- chunk.io | 15:19 |
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| giorgis | http://chunk.io/f/8d35c5f33d19466b8c49a4e262031050 | 15:20 |
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| giorgis | larsks: with these rules right now the cirros instance doesn't have internet access | 15:21 |
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| giorgis | larsks: should I put my rule and paste the new rules again? | 15:22 |
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| larsks | giorgis: What ip range are your instances using? | 15:22 |
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| larsks | giorgis: there is already a NAT rule for traffic going out eth1: | 15:23 |
| giorgis | larsks: for the internal or external net? | 15:23 |
| larsks | giorgis: Both, I guess, just to be sure... | 15:23 |
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| giorgis | larsks: the rule there is because it's now in the /etc/sysconfig/iptables | 15:23 |
| giorgis | so it comes up with the machine | 15:23 |
| giorgis | the machine has an external interface | 15:24 |
| giorgis | at a 255.255.255.240 subnet | 15:24 |
| giorgis | an internal at 192.168.0.11 | 15:24 |
| giorgis | and the bridged network is 10.0.0.0/24 | 15:24 |
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| larsks | giorgis: Okay, so it looks like the existing nat rule should do the right thing? | 15:25 |
| larsks | -A nova-network-snat -s 10.0.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.11 | 15:25 |
| larsks | This is called from POSTROUTING -> nova-bostrouting-bottom -> nova-network-snat | 15:25 |
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| larsks | That will SNAT any traffic out eth1 from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.11. | 15:25 |
| larsks | Is that not doing what you expect? | 15:25 |
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| giorgis | larsks: it's not doing it right now | 15:26 |
| giorgis | I have to re-insert it | 15:26 |
| giorgis | should I do it to check it ? | 15:26 |
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| larsks | giorgis: I'm having a hard time following you...the rule seems to be there, and it looks correct. Is it (a) not triggering (packet count is not increasing) or (b) is it triggering but apparently not doing the right thing? | 15:27 |
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| giorgis | larsks: sorry for confusing you! | 15:28 |
| giorgis | from my compute node | 15:28 |
| giorgis | I can ssh to the cirros instance | 15:28 |
| giorgis | ssh cirros@10.0.0.2 | 15:28 |
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| giorgis | when I am in the cirros instance | 15:28 |
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| giorgis | I cannot PING anything outside the compute node | 15:29 |
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| giorgis | ping compute node's public IP is working | 15:29 |
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| giorgis | but nothing beyond that | 15:29 |
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| giorgis | leaving the instance running | 15:29 |
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| larsks | giorgis: Right. So, if you start a "ping" in the instance to something outside the compute node, and then run "tcpdump -n -i eth1 icmp", do you see the icmp traffic? If so, what does the source address look like? | 15:30 |
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| giorgis | and putting the rule again (it goes on top of the chain) and I can ping from the VM | 15:30 |
| giorgis | the source if I remember correctly is 192.* | 15:30 |
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| larsks | giorgis: ...which is what you want, right? Because your host's address is 192.168.0.11. Is that correct? | 15:31 |
| giorgis | yes! the internal | 15:31 |
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| giorgis | but is not routed to the external | 15:31 |
| larsks | On which interface is the "external" address? | 15:31 |
| giorgis | eth1 | 15:32 |
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| larsks | ...so which interface is 192.168.0.11? | 15:32 |
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| giorgis | eth0 | 15:32 |
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| larsks | Ah, okay. | 15:33 |
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| larsks | giorgis: what is public_interface in your nova.conf? | 15:34 |
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| giorgis | eth1 | 15:34 |
| larsks | giorgis: Is my_ip set to your internal or external address? | 15:36 |
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| giorgis | internal | 15:36 |
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| larsks | giorgis: if you change it to your external address and restart your nova services, what do the iptables rules look like? | 15:36 |
| giorgis | larsks: let me do it | 15:37 |
| Teduardo | Is there a seperate project (other than Nova) for HA/automatically migrating VMs with disks on reliable storage from a failed hypervisor to an available hypervisor? or is the OpenStack HA mechanism focused more on having many many instances with the same application and using load balancing to ensure availablity of that application? | 15:37 |
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| kbringard | cloud arch in general is more geared toward horizontal scale-out for HA of applications | 15:38 |
| larsks | Teduardo: mostly the latter, although Heat autoscaling groups may also help out. | 15:38 |
| odyssey4me_ | Teduardo - there have been some code bits, but nothing has firmed up yet. | 15:38 |
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| giorgis | larsks: http://chunk.io/f/fcbe05a9d99348fca356add52b9aeceb | 15:39 |
| giorgis | larsks: this is the new | 15:39 |
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| larsks | giorgis: So that SNAT rule now looks like it should do the right thing. Do you see any different behavior from inside the instance? | 15:39 |
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| larsks | That is: -A nova-network-snat -s 10.0.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 153.120.67.215 | 15:39 |
| larsks | That should SNAT any traffic going out eth1 from 10.0.0.0/24 to your external ip address. | 15:40 |
| giorgis | larsks: YES!!! It can ping!!!! | 15:40 |
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| larsks | giorgis: Awesome. | 15:40 |
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| giorgis | larsks: so do I have to put that rule every time?? | 15:40 |
| giorgis | larsks: I mean should I leave it in the iptables? | 15:41 |
| larsks | giorgis: No, that rule is maintained by nova network. | 15:41 |
| larsks | giorgis: It was already working; you just had my_ip set incorrectly for what you want to do. | 15:41 |
| Teduardo | So assuming that someone wanted to create a horizontal scale out (which is different than VM HA) scenario in Openstack where each hypervisor had an instance with the same application how can you tell the scheduler that is what you are doing so that it doesn't put all of the VMs on a single hypervisor? It doesn't look like in Horizon a tenant has visibility to which HVs his instances exist | 15:41 |
| Teduardo | on. | 15:41 |
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| giorgis | larsks: I have another installation | 15:41 |
| giorgis | with the same settings | 15:42 |
| giorgis | and it's working... | 15:42 |
| larsks | Teduardo: Possibly affinity filters would help with that: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/scheduler-filters.html | 15:42 |
| giorgis | not really knowing whey... | 15:42 |
| Teduardo | larsks: and that is something a user can do in horizon while creating their instances? | 15:42 |
| giorgis | larsks: so should I put under my ip always the external IP ? | 15:42 |
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| larsks | Teduardo: ...maybe? It's not something I've actually tried. | 15:43 |
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| giorgis | larsks: and does the same apply to vncserver_proxyclient_address?? | 15:43 |
| larsks | giorgis: I believe you should have my_ip set to whatever address you want to be used in that SNAT rule. I'm not sure what other implications there are in that setting. | 15:43 |
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| larsks | I don't think you need to change vncserver_proxyclient_address. | 15:44 |
| giorgis | larsks: OK! I am removing this rule from the iptables configuration file and let's check what is going to happen | 15:44 |
| odyssey4me | Teduardo - no, HV visibility is not appropriate for cloud. The way to do that is with Affinity Groups and the appropriate scheduler filter | 15:44 |
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| jues | using nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a NAT | 15:57 |
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| lrr | I have an issue where openstack thinks there is an instance, but it cannot find it on the hypervisor, and I cannot delete it | 16:17 |
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| lrr | the log says "Found 1 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor." | 16:17 |
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| lrr | how can i remove that instance? | 16:17 |
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| jues | using nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a NAT | 16:19 |
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| magicrobotmonkey | let's say half my compute nodes have ssds and the other half dont. Is it possible to prefer one or the other when starting an instance? | 16:23 |
| giorgis | larsks + gerogem2 : thanks a lot for your help | 16:23 |
| giorgis | but it appears that after I have changed my_ip I cannot start a new instance | 16:23 |
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| giorgis | I cannot create and boot | 16:25 |
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| TobyFlenderson | trying to boot my first instance. getting an error 500 MessagingTimeout from nova-api when POSTing to /v2/##tenant uuid##/servers... not sure where to go from here. | 16:44 |
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| larsks | giorgis: what do you see in your nova logs when you try to boot an instance? Are instances failing to boot with an error or getting stuck spawning? | 17:07 |
| larsks | TobyFlenderson: First stop: your nova logs, probably in /var/log/nova. | 17:08 |
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| giorgis | larsks: I think I have managed to locate the problem... | 17:08 |
| giorgis | larsks: It was a two nodes network and the controller node was having the internal IP as my_ip | 17:09 |
| choirboy | is this an appropriate place to ask operator questions? I have a question about ethernet vs. infiniband for tenant networking | 17:09 |
| giorgis | larsks: Now I am able to boot properly | 17:09 |
| larsks | choirboy: this is an appropriate place, but kashyap's suggestion re: the openstack-operators mailing list will probably get you better answers. | 17:09 |
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| giorgis | larsks + georgem2 : Thank you very much for all your help!!!! | 17:10 |
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| giorgis | larsks + georgem2 : very much appreciated!!! | 17:10 |
| choirboy | yeah, just subscribed, but was hoping for a quicker answer... I'm building my answer file | 17:10 |
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| larsks | choirboy: Intuitively, I would say that inifiniband makes a perfectly fine choice for tenant networking, if you expect your instances to be driving a lot of traffic. It would be even better for storage connectivity. Maybe both? | 17:11 |
| choirboy | larsks: the root of my questions is really ignorance of how much traffic is expected to go over which network... | 17:11 |
| choirboy | I *assume* that the tenant networks would carry a fair amount of traffic, but I could certainly be wrong since this is my first time building this | 17:12 |
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| larsks | choirboy: A question only you can answer! "tenant networks" carry all the network traffic going to and from your instances. So if you're running a popular website, that may be a lot of traffic. If you're just running compute jobs, it might be close to zero. | 17:12 |
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| choirboy | heh - fair point. Right now, this is really just my home network... but I'm trying to make sure I build it the "right way" so that when I do it for real I do it right. | 17:13 |
| larsks | choirboy: The thing is, "doing it right" means different things for different deployments. | 17:13 |
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| choirboy | of course. | 17:13 |
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| larsks | E.g., if you expect your users to be running memory and storage intensive jobs, you're going to to make different decisions than if you expect everyone to be running externally available web services. | 17:14 |
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| choirboy | really, trying to make sure I understand some of the terminology... | 17:14 |
| choirboy | larsks: that makes sense | 17:14 |
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| TobyFlenderson | larsks: sure, I have been checking all of the nova logs, but I'm not finding anything useful besides the 500 error in nova-api.log | 17:15 |
| larsks | TobyFlenderson: Can you pastebin the error (and any traceback leading up to it)? | 17:15 |
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| larsks | TobyFlenderson: Also, other than booting instances, do other things seem to work correctly? uploading/listing images, creating/listing volumes, etc. | 17:16 |
| choirboy | given that I want one node to run management services and three compute nodes, the nova conductor service should run on that management node, right? | 17:16 |
| larsks | choirboy: That's correct. | 17:16 |
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| larsks | Generally, the only thing running on "compute" nodes is nova-compute (and potentially something like neutron-openvswitch-agent). | 17:17 |
| choirboy | cool... so when I'm telling packstack to configure it, I should define the ip address which is on the management network, correct? | 17:17 |
| TobyFlenderson | larsks: sure, I'll pastebin the trace. everything else seems to be working, from what I can tell so far. | 17:17 |
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| choirboy | ok | 17:17 |
| larsks | choirboy: Define *which* ip address? | 17:17 |
| choirboy | sorry, in the packstack answer file, CONFIG_NOVA_CONDUCTOR_HOST | 17:17 |
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| larsks | Yes. In fact, other than NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS, all of your _HOST variables should probably point at the same thing. | 17:18 |
| larsks | This is actually required in recent packstack releases, where all the _HOST settings have been replaced by a singel CONFIG_CONTROLLER_HOST. | 17:19 |
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| choirboy | still trying to wrap my head around a couple of things... since there are three networks - one for external access, one for tenant networking, and one for management traffic, I *assume* that I should define all the management services to use ip addresses on the management network. Is that a sane assumption? | 17:20 |
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| larsks | Yes. | 17:20 |
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| |splat| | i seem to have 1 instance stuck in a table somewhere. it doesn't show up on any instance list thru nova, but on the webui on the overview page it says there is 1 instance | 17:25 |
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| choirboy | so if my public address on my management node is 172.31.100.x, my management network is 192.168.x.y and my tenant network is 10.0.0.x, pretty much everything should be on the 192.168.x.y network then, except for the compute nodes which should be on the 182.31.100.x network. | 17:25 |
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| choirboy | sorry typo - compute nodes which should be on the 172.31.100.x network | 17:26 |
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| |splat| | choirboy: i just went thru that same thing. | 17:27 |
| |splat| | I have all services on my headnode using my EXT network | 17:27 |
| choirboy | wouldn't you want them on the management network, though? | 17:27 |
| |splat| | that's what i thought, and ther emight be a way to get more fine grained with it | 17:28 |
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| |splat| | but i was getting pretty hung up on what goes where. so for right now this is how i got it working yesterday | 17:29 |
| choirboy | |splat|: for my install, I'm defining everything in my answer file on the management network | 17:29 |
| choirboy | except the compute nodes, and they are on the tenant network (I think that's right) | 17:29 |
| |splat| | basically i just followed this http://oddbit.com/rdo-hangout-multinode-packstack-slides/ then added in http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network | 17:29 |
| choirboy | oooh, nice | 17:29 |
| choirboy | thanks! | 17:29 |
| |splat| | then to fix the webvnc, i added rules to all the firewalls to open up the ports on INT | 17:30 |
| choirboy | ok | 17:30 |
| |splat| | i just did -A INPUT -s <int>/24 -j ACCEPT | 17:30 |
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| |splat| | and now it's working. | 17:30 |
| |splat| | everything works. finally. | 17:31 |
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| |splat| | well. except windows VMs | 17:31 |
| |splat| | they're halfway there. | 17:31 |
| choirboy | it seems like you'd want to set the ip addresses for all management functions on the management network, then all the compute node addresses on the tenant network, and the CONFIG_NOVA_VNCPROXY_HOST as the public network address | 17:31 |
| choirboy | is that right? | 17:31 |
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| |splat| | you don't want anything on tenant network. that's all through the br-int IIRC | 17:32 |
| |splat| | i was thinking things like rabbitmq, mysql you'd only want on INT | 17:32 |
| choirboy | ok, so then define CONFIG_NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS on the management network? | 17:32 |
| |splat| | yes public | 17:32 |
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| |splat| | that might work | 17:33 |
| choirboy | wait - on the management network, or the public network? | 17:33 |
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| choirboy | in my network, there are three subnets - one for public access (e.g. the folks using the OS environment), one for management traffic (rabbit and the like), and one for tenant networking | 17:34 |
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| larsks | CONFIG_NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS would be on the "management" network. This is for api traffic between the compute hosts and the controller. | 17:35 |
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| choirboy | ah, ok | 17:36 |
| larsks | The only place the "public" network would show up would be for (a) floating ips and (b) external access to your web interface/api services. | 17:36 |
| larsks | The "tenant" network would typically have your GRE or VXLAN tunnels between compute hosts and the neutron host. | 17:36 |
| choirboy | ok | 17:36 |
| choirboy | thanks! | 17:36 |
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| J_Man | hello all! Question....if you're using legacy nova-network, is there any way to have floating IP's on separate networks? | 18:09 |
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| J_Man | those separate networks being on different ethernet interfaces (or tagged vlans) | 18:10 |
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| halbert-away | J_Man: you don't have any control on the API when you request a public ip, which subnet you are getting it from though. | 18:17 |
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| halbert | you're just asking from the service to assign you one from the pool | 18:17 |
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| J_Man | halbert - if you have separate pools for each network, tho? | 18:18 |
| J_Man | I know with FlatDHCP mode...you have a single interface that is designated as the public interface | 18:19 |
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| J_Man | but these separate subnets would be available to the compute nodes on different interfaces, depending on which subnet | 18:19 |
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| halbert | right J_Man, exactly. | 18:19 |
| J_Man | is that doable tho? | 18:19 |
| halbert | Let's walk this through | 18:20 |
| J_Man | cause all the docs I've read you can only specify one interface as the "public" interface | 18:20 |
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| halbert | you have 10 vms on a few compute nodes, these vms are part of three different tenants | 18:20 |
| halbert | in nova network, a vm can only below to one tenant at a time | 18:20 |
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| halbert | so in nova-network with vlans, what happens is you would have created a vlan device per tenant on a compute node, and this vlan device would share a bridge with all vms that belong to the tenant that owns that vlan | 18:22 |
| J_Man | that's what I've read in regard to the fixed network info | 18:22 |
| J_Man | so you segregate vm's for that tenant into their own fixed network | 18:22 |
| halbert | now all your packets that come out of the vm veth device, goes to the bridge, gets tagged, and then leaves the bridge via the vlan device. | 18:23 |
| halbert | hear me out :) | 18:23 |
| J_Man | OK | 18:23 |
| jues | using nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a private address | 18:23 |
| halbert | once your layer 2 packets get tagged and leave the compute node, they go back to the nova-network node, as generally that's where you set your vm's default gw | 18:24 |
| J_Man | with you so far | 18:24 |
| J_Man | nova-network does snat and dnat at that stage | 18:24 |
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| halbert | pretty much, if you leave the confines of your private network, you leave via the designated gw of the nova-network node | 18:25 |
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| halbert | HOWEVER, and this is a big caveat | 18:25 |
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| halbert | while you can stick public network ips of different subnets | 18:25 |
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| halbert | on nova-network's networking node, and you would vlan that shit however which way you want. | 18:25 |
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| halbert | the packets will pass, however, there's no way for you to say 'this vm, gets this public ip from this range, this vm, gets this public ip from that other range' | 18:26 |
| halbert | by way of the euca or nova apis | 18:26 |
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| halbert | you'd have to write your own thing. | 18:27 |
| J_Man | hmm...so you can't specify which floating network a particular VM gets it's IP from | 18:27 |
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| halbert | I don't think you can. | 18:27 |
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| J_Man | honestly, part of me is wondering if we shouldn't just go to neutron | 18:27 |
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| halbert | Well, some people have gotten neutron to work | 18:28 |
| halbert | I haven't | 18:28 |
| halbert | I'm stuck there right now. | 18:28 |
| J_Man | but from everything I'm reading, neutron depends on a dedicated network host, and best you can do is an active/passive setup | 18:28 |
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| jidar | I'm not sure doing DNAT/SNAT in a compute node is the right solution for lots and lots of shops :( | 18:28 |
| jidar | but I'm new to openstack, so take that with a grain of salt | 18:28 |
| halbert | J_Man: yeah, if you are using openvswitch sure | 18:29 |
| halbert | but there's got to be a vendor out there that talks to neutron, like the bigswitch dudes, who has something more enterprise ready | 18:29 |
| J_Man | our concern with neutron is two-fold: 1) we want to try to avoid single-point-of-failure and 2) we worry about saturating the network link on a single dedicated network node | 18:29 |
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| WormMan | J_Man: luckily we only want a Unicorn... :) | 18:30 |
| halbert | J_Man: well, don't quote me on this, but... I'm not sure if you are limited to one network node. | 18:30 |
| halbert | you are limited to one network node, per network... | 18:30 |
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| halbert | ahhh wait, nevermind | 18:30 |
| halbert | just thinking out loud... | 18:30 |
| J_Man | everything I read indicates best you can do for HA with neutron is active/passive | 18:30 |
| halbert | yeah, J_Man that's what it looks like on the guides | 18:31 |
| halbert | what's your userbase gonna be looking like? | 18:31 |
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| WormMan | there is distributed HA coming.... eventually. But for today you're gonna be talking to vendors | 18:31 |
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| J_Man | 10-15 tenant groups currently...each group will most likely get it's own floating pool | 18:31 |
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| halbert | how much bandwidth do they need coming and going to other networks? | 18:32 |
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| J_Man | each tenant will probably end up at least in the gigabit/s range | 18:32 |
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| halbert | WormMan: can you have more than one nova-network node, and seperate out your nova infrastructure by regions? | 18:34 |
| halbert | that way J_Man can split out his tenants across regions and he can scale horizontally? | 18:35 |
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| J_Man | fyi...our current demo cluster is running nova-network multi-host (nova-network on each compute node) | 18:35 |
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| J_Man | but with only a single floating pool | 18:36 |
| J_Man | using FlatDHCP | 18:36 |
| J_Man | the way I envision it...we bring more subnets to the public interfaces via tagged vlans, set up multiple bridges, and let the selection of which floating pool determine which bridge the traffic goes out of | 18:38 |
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| halbert | J_Man: hrmn... | 18:39 |
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| halbert | suppose you have zones set up per tenants... | 18:39 |
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| J_Man | just not sure that will work, since all the configs I've seen have a specific interface designated as the public interface | 18:40 |
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| J_Man | and to the linux compute nodes, tagged vlans essentially are independent interfaces | 18:40 |
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| halbert | and you have nova-network flat-dhcp multi-host going, so you rope x nodes for a specific tenant. | 18:41 |
| halbert | and each tenant has exclusive rights to their compute nodes | 18:41 |
| halbert | well... | 18:42 |
| J_Man | hmmm...I think I know what you're getting at there | 18:42 |
| halbert | you still can't really make sure that you pick the right ip from the floating pool... | 18:42 |
| halbert | but | 18:42 |
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| halbert | suppose you don't care, you just wanna filter on layer 2. | 18:43 |
| halbert | those tenants can't see one another, but your upstream router can see all of them. | 18:43 |
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| halbert | then your public interface probably can just going into a tagged rather than a trunk port for that tenant... | 18:44 |
| halbert | I dunno... sounds very hackish and it would be a mess to troubleshoot | 18:44 |
| J_Man | so basically...you're saying "Compute1&2 for tenant1, Compute3&4 for tenant2" | 18:44 |
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| halbert | something like that... | 18:45 |
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| J_Man | and only connect those compute nodes to the network they need to be on | 18:45 |
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| halbert | and you have multi node flatdhcp running, and connect them to the network they need to be on | 18:45 |
| halbert | I've never done this before, and it sounds like it ...could... work ? | 18:45 |
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| J_Man | yeah, i think it could...but it's not exactly what we were envisioning originally | 18:46 |
| halbert | If you can't feel the hesitation from my keystrokes, I feel really uneasy that you might interpret this as a recommendation rather than just a mere possibility :) | 18:46 |
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| J_Man | I understand | 18:46 |
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| J_Man | I just feel that, as complex as we already are in our network....to fit the new cluster into what we already have, we're going to have to go to neutron | 18:47 |
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| J_Man | and we're going to have major issues with scale at that point, PLUS the additional hardware cost of buying dedicated network nodes | 18:47 |
| halbert | J_Man: I think you should go with the canonical examples (I mean the word rather than the brand) | 18:47 |
| WormMan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-ovs-dvr | 18:47 |
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| WormMan | there's the blueprint, but it's still mostly hypothetical | 18:48 |
| halbert | J_Man: it's rather hazardous to do this politically | 18:48 |
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| halbert | but you might want to deploy a testing prototype that you expose to clients | 18:48 |
| halbert | on a trial basis ? | 18:48 |
| halbert | and if they like it, then upgrade the network node with a real vendor solution ? | 18:49 |
| J_Man | I've been working on that...it's only internal to our team right now - the networking issue is the only real sticking point...we really don't feel comfortable letting the other groups play until we resolve that | 18:49 |
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| halbert | J_Man: are you happy with the performance now? | 18:50 |
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| J_Man | So far, it seems pretty good. I haven't done much stress testing on it however | 18:51 |
| cmtime | halbert: I work with J_Man our problem is our setup is simply complex with multiple networks and that is our wall we keep hitting. | 18:51 |
| WormMan | neutron will solve all your problems... someday :) | 18:52 |
| cmtime | Yes but not till multi node | 18:52 |
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| WormMan | we've looked at some vendors, but haven't yet found anyone in our budget and does exactly what we want(which is basically just multihost in neutron) | 18:53 |
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| cmtime | brocade looks like a option but not sure | 18:53 |
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| WormMan | yea, that's the other problem, weeding through all the buzzwords on vendors sites | 18:54 |
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| cmtime | Right now we are Front-end multi VLAN and back-end multi VLAN and can not easily get away from that. | 18:54 |
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| WormMan | there's stuff like OpenDaylight and OpenContrail, but once again I can't figure out what they actually DO | 18:55 |
| cmtime | With many hardware load balances and ya its complex | 18:55 |
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| WormMan | (well, short of spending a week installing and testing them and finding all the features and missing features) | 18:56 |
| halbert | WormMan: yeah, especially like, the whole combination of loading indigo firmware on switches, that talk to floodlight, that you then interface neutron with | 18:56 |
| cmtime | Ya I think we need to pay for a consultant that knows at this point but it seems like the options are not around less we hardware route this with a device that talks with openstack | 18:57 |
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| WormMan | I would love to find 'Neutron in an HA box' but I also haven't found one of those... maybe you'll have better luck | 18:58 |
| halbert | cmtime and J_Man, would you prefer another virtualization platform at this point ? | 18:58 |
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| halbert | I guess what I wanna say is, why openstack? | 18:59 |
| cmtime | Ya any option is okay | 18:59 |
| halbert | what does openstack give you now that some of the other free stuff doesn't ? | 18:59 |
| cmtime | Here is why | 18:59 |
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| cmtime | We just wanted to have a controlled VM solution where our customers could manage what they have. And we could over see the larger picture. Right now we are having to manage 50+ racks and be to involved. Our goal is gluster backed storage with a web interface to allow people to turn up nodes when they want. | 19:01 |
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| * WormMan spends a few hours cursing at his ceph install for 'fun' | 19:01 | |
| cmtime | no thank you | 19:02 |
| WormMan | at least it's not gluster :) | 19:02 |
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| cmtime | =P | 19:02 |
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| halbert | My ceph install is actually functional | 19:02 |
| cmtime | I think gluster gets a bad name but not hear to fight that fight =P | 19:02 |
| WormMan | most of my fun is just getting our puppet speaking properly for Ubuntu 14.04 | 19:03 |
| halbert | gluster has improved tremendously in the last few years. | 19:03 |
| cmtime | We have 2 500TB glusters that are working well. | 19:03 |
| halbert | that's good to hear. | 19:03 |
| halbert | more options is more better | 19:03 |
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| cmtime | but I say that after bashing my head into a wall all week to get windows working with it =P | 19:04 |
| halbert | How did you get windows to talk nice to it | 19:04 |
| halbert | ? | 19:04 |
| cmtime | ctdb and samba | 19:04 |
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| halbert | oh, so you had a gluster client that in turned shared it out by samba ? | 19:04 |
| cmtime | 2 of them ya | 19:05 |
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| cmtime | performance is equal to a standalone samba server | 19:05 |
| Diplomat | guys, any ideas how somebody can hack an instance ? | 19:05 |
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| halbert | Guest40112: uhhh... they are just vms man. | 19:06 |
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| Guest40112 | yea, but somebody sent me a funny grub message "echo you got owned" | 19:06 |
| Guest40112 | lol | 19:06 |
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| Guest40112 | my passwords are pretty difficult.. | 19:07 |
| halbert | Guest40112: what services are you running on the vm? | 19:07 |
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| Guest40112 | cpanel only | 19:07 |
| cmtime | Do you have any advice on what other cloud solution we should look at? | 19:07 |
| halbert | cmtime: not with what you want. Openstack is perhaps the most stable. | 19:07 |
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| Guest40112 | damn, i cant change my username lol | 19:08 |
| Guest40112 | but anyway yea.. is there a way for me to see how they are able to restart my vm and um.. view this grub thing | 19:08 |
| halbert | if you didn't need a nice interface (web and api) for clients, a buddy of really likes the free version of xenserver. there are all manners of command line utils to talk to it. | 19:08 |
| halbert | but | 19:08 |
| halbert | that's neither here nor there. | 19:08 |
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| halbert | Guest40112: they managed to get your grub config, which means they either got the compute node at the bottom, paused your vm, mounted your vm drives and editted the grub config, or your cpanel install is borked. | 19:09 |
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| Guest40112 | hmm | 19:10 |
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| halbert | and they managed to use that broken cpanel and leveraged that to get a local root hole. | 19:10 |
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| Guest40112 | i wonder how they got that access because i have really strong passwords and a paid cpanel license not some bs | 19:11 |
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| halbert | do you have ssh running on that vm ? | 19:11 |
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| anthonyv | hello all I am having an issue getting dns leases. I have a 3 node manual setup via openstack.org docs. I am running the latest icehouse on RHEL6..5. The only way to get leases working is to restart openstack services on the compute node | 19:15 |
| anthonyv | I have to do this every time I reboot my instance. | 19:15 |
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| anthonyv | Any clues on what could be wrong | 19:16 |
| halbert | dns or dhcp leases ? | 19:16 |
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| anthonyv | sorry dhcp not dns | 19:16 |
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| Guest40112 | halber: yes ssh is running | 19:16 |
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| Guest40112 | but i can check from logs, wtf is going on | 19:16 |
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| halbert | Guest40112: I think that would be best... You should let your openstack admin know what happened | 19:17 |
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| halbert | he or she would be interested in that. | 19:17 |
| halbert | anthonyv: let's run this back on a play by play | 19:18 |
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| halbert | you start a vm... | 19:18 |
| halbert | it comes up | 19:18 |
| halbert | you get a network assigned to it. | 19:18 |
| halbert | (or it wouldn't boot up) | 19:18 |
| anthonyv | it boot up fine | 19:18 |
| halbert | it boots up fine | 19:18 |
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| anthonyv | fails on getting a lease | 19:18 |
| Guest40112 | interesting thing is other vms are all good.. | 19:19 |
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| halbert | what networking model are you using? neutron gres ? neutron vlans ? nova-network ? | 19:19 |
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| anthonyv | if I restart the services on the compute node; then ifup eth0 in the instance it come up right away | 19:19 |
| anthonyv | neutron ml2 - | 19:20 |
| halbert | okay | 19:20 |
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| anthonyv | gre | 19:20 |
| halbert | I suck at neutron btw... | 19:20 |
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| halbert | did you restart nova-compute or neutron-nova-agent ? | 19:20 |
| anthonyv | me too :-) | 19:20 |
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| anthonyv | neutron-openvswitch-agent | 19:21 |
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| ranger81 | Can someone tell me how much of service chaining is implemented in Neutron - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ServiceInsertionAndChaining | 19:21 |
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| Guest40112 | somebody tries to brute force login to my cpanel | 19:22 |
| anthonyv | well I restart the compute node to beuase use openstack-service restart | 19:22 |
| halbert | anthonyv: I think this is where you go into the developers channel | 19:22 |
| halbert | okay | 19:22 |
| halbert | so you restarted both the neutron agent and the compute service | 19:22 |
| anthonyv | yes | 19:22 |
| halbert | okay | 19:22 |
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| halbert | throw up a vm, and I think the neutron-agent is the culprit, but restart one service and see if it gets the dhcp ip | 19:23 |
| halbert | then do the other one and see | 19:23 |
| anthonyv | let me give it a try - brb | 19:24 |
| halbert | when you restart neutron-agent you rebuild all of your gre tunnels. | 19:24 |
| anthonyv | right | 19:24 |
| halbert | and when you restart nova-compute you re-register your compute service to the meta-data service, as well as other shit that gets set up | 19:24 |
| anthonyv | I think the issues lies there | 19:24 |
| halbert | so it could narrow it down on where you wanna look. | 19:25 |
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| anthonyv | k let me try restarting one service at time (brb) | 19:25 |
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| WormMan | hmm, apache and wsgi and python hate me... whee | 19:27 |
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| halbert | hey WormMan, I got a problem with neutron config, I keep getting these errors: | 19:27 |
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| halbert | message": "Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed", "code": 500, "details": | 19:28 |
| halbert | and I get back weird errors from python-libvirt where the binding of the veth failed | 19:28 |
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| WormMan | halbert: hmm, I hit that, it turned out to be one of the 3700 configuration settings | 19:29 |
| Pursuit | hello all! anyone have any idea why dhcpcd as installed in Arch and SuSE fails to get a default route? Instances seem to get all of the other routes specified in the subnet config, but not the default. | 19:29 |
| halbert | and I get an error on the neutron-server that says 'failed to bind instance....' | 19:29 |
| Pursuit | using Neutron/OVS/Vlans if that makes any difference | 19:29 |
| halbert | WormMan: yeah I figured. Which one was it for you? | 19:29 |
| halbert | cause I've been at this for about a week... | 19:30 |
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| WormMan | halbert: I don't remember, I just kept adding redundant settings... make sure the physnets are set properly, make sure all the nova-compute is properly set for nova make sure the proper flags are set on the subnet(or is it the nework) in the neutron db | 19:31 |
| WormMan | er nova-compute is set properly for neutron | 19:31 |
| halbert | yeah... | 19:31 |
| WormMan | my neutron is not yet under config management so I don't have a nice pretty log of all the changes | 19:32 |
| halbert | so configuration by monte carlo | 19:32 |
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| halbert | and hulk smash keyboard | 19:32 |
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| WormMan | hmm, binding of the veth, using OpenVSwitch? | 19:33 |
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| halbert | yeah | 19:33 |
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| WormMan | so, all the ovs stuff appears to be working correctly then? the proper kernel module loaded, etc. Also, be sure to check system logs, (syslog, messages) sometimes they have hints as to what really went wrong | 19:34 |
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| halbert | well, I can see the gre tunnels going from the compute nodes to the network node | 19:35 |
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| halbert | and that kernel mods are loaded | 19:35 |
| halbert | and the root-wrap stuff is returning 0 as a status | 19:36 |
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| WormMan | hmm, no good suggestions then, I assume you checked the bug trackers then, could be a libvirt problem, version issue or bug | 19:39 |
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| halbert | I'll go give it a look. thanks dude | 19:39 |
| jues | ok so i've asked a couple times in hopes someone would know, but heres another try at it. I am trying to design up an openstack cluster. Currently we are using SolusVM and are utilizings the linux bridging of interfaces to hand out public 205.x.x.x ip's directly to our vm's. And then when it calls for multiple vm's we are throwing up a pfsense vm with dual nics creating an internal/external | 19:39 |
| jues | for those customers and then all of the vm's behind that pfsense bridge to the internal interface of the pfsense. Now i was hoping to migrate to OpenStack but with the current model i am using. Is it possible to use Nova-networks and a Flat model ? | 19:39 |
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| matzie | I’m having trouble finding docs on the command-line sytnax to launch an instance with a block device mapping. Can anyone give me a hint please? | 19:41 |
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| matzie | want to create volume from image | 19:42 |
| halbert | have you created the volume from image yet ? have you initiated the cinder command that downloads the raw image from glance and converts it ? | 19:42 |
| matzie | ah I didn’t realise that was a necessary step? | 19:43 |
| matzie | I’ve just found http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/create_volume_from_image_and_boot.html | 19:43 |
| halbert | yeah, to boot from volume, you need to make a bootable volume first. | 19:43 |
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| halbert | and you generally do that by converting something in the image store to the volume store. | 19:43 |
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| halbert | make sure that works before you experiment with the nova command line | 19:45 |
| halbert | the command flags to do it is here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/attach_block_storage.html | 19:45 |
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| J_Man | halbert: WormMan: with neutron - could you have multiple neutron routers, each one handing the routing for it's own tenant? | 19:46 |
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| matzie | ok thx I’ll dig in that direction, appreciate your help | 19:46 |
| halbert | J_Man: I think you really wanna go into #openstack-neutron and ask that | 19:46 |
| J_Man | OK | 19:46 |
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| jmickle | hey guys | 19:57 |
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| jmickle | has anyone had any issues with centos root partition resizing to the instance size | 19:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | not sure any one follows my problem but i asked what the time out is for horizon it 30 or so minutes and the variable is missing but it SESSION_TIMEOUT= you have to add it to the dashboard settings | 19:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | jmickle, via cloud-init yes | 19:58 |
| jmickle | Gamekiller77: is there a fix? | 19:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | what is your partition setup | 19:59 |
| jmickle | im using the public centos 6.5 image | 19:59 |
| jmickle | and it just uses a / partition with ext4 | 19:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | not KVM | 19:59 |
| jmickle | its always 16 GB | 19:59 |
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| jmickle | regardless of the image size | 19:59 |
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| Gamekiller77 | do you see the cloud-init work at boot time | 20:03 |
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| jmickle | hmm let me check the cloud init log | 20:05 |
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| jmickle | yeah i just see a no modifications to fstab needed | 20:08 |
| jmickle | no errors though | 20:08 |
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| jues | ok so i've asked a couple times in hopes someone would know, but heres another try at it. I am trying to design up an openstack cluster. Currently we are using SolusVM and are utilizings the linux bridging of interfaces to hand out public 205.x.x.x ip's directly to our vm's. And then when it calls for multiple vm's we are throwing up a pfsense vm with dual nics creating an internal/external | 20:14 |
| jues | for those customers and then all of the vm's behind that pfsense bridge to the internal interface of the pfsense. Now i was hoping to migrate to OpenStack but with the current model i am using. Is it possible to use Nova-networks and a Flat model ? | 20:14 |
| |splat| | is there a way to clean out "ip netns"? it's listen a bunch of qrouters and qdhcps that aren't in existence anymore | 20:15 |
| |splat| | s/listen/listing/ | 20:15 |
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| hackoo | what is the path of the VM snapshots in the OpenStack machine ? I want to migrate them to other environment. Is it /var/lib/glance/images ? | 20:16 |
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| mischief | well crap. | 20:36 |
| mischief | i upgraded from 12.04->14.04 yesterday and havana->icehouse | 20:37 |
| mischief | now it seems my instances dont get their ip on boot | 20:37 |
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| mischief | where can i look? | 20:37 |
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| larsks | mischief: Start probably with the nova-compute log, and possibly the neutron-openvswitch-agent log if you're using neutron. | 20:40 |
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| larsks | mischief: ...are the instances booting successfully and then just not getting an ip, or are they failing to boot with some sort of error? | 20:40 |
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| mischief | larsks: they just dont get an ip | 20:41 |
| mischief | and now i forgot my pw so i cant login to the console.. :| | 20:41 |
| mischief | i'm using ubuntu 12.04 cloud image | 20:42 |
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| halbert | jues: in a word, maybe. the nova-network node would have all the public ips. All traffic to public ips would traverse to main external interface on the nova-network node | 20:42 |
| mischief | i found https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/28297/cloud-init-nonet-waiting-and-fails/ .. | 20:42 |
| magicrobotmonkey | they dont have a password | 20:42 |
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| magicrobotmonkey | you should use cirros until you get the networking worked out | 20:42 |
| halbert | this gets snat and dnatted to the actual vms. | 20:42 |
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| halbert | so in a way, you can give your vm with pfsense a lot of public ips, you can ask for more than one | 20:43 |
| mischief | i guess i can mount the disk in the host and edit the networking config | 20:43 |
| mischief | this upgrade sucks | 20:43 |
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| halbert | but that means you will be doing a double nat. | 20:43 |
| halbert | it is technically feasible, but probably not what you want. | 20:43 |
| larsks | mischief: I would (a) get working console access and then (b) pull out tcpdump and figure out exactly what is happening with the dhcp requests. | 20:43 |
| larsks | mischief: boot a cirros image for testing if you don't remember your existing passwords. | 20:44 |
| en0x | hi, I installed openstack but the only issue i have is the networking. my network is 10.1.10.0/24 and i would like to have my virtual servers have external ips in this range. I have no idea how to set this up | 20:44 |
| en0x | i read all the docs but i'm confused | 20:44 |
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| mischief | larsks: ok.. have to add it | 20:45 |
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| mischief | larsks: status: error | 20:49 |
| mischief | great -.- | 20:49 |
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| mischief | the web ui shows this | 20:51 |
| mischief | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QMZGY53V | 20:51 |
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| halbert | mischief: I have that error too | 20:53 |
| mischief | glad to know i am not alone! | 20:53 |
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| larsks | mischief: I would take a close look through your neutron logs, in particular the openvswitch-agent log, to see if you spot any errors. | 20:54 |
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| choirboy | larsks: back to my earlier questions... if my private/management network is 192.168.x.y and my public network (the one I will be connecting from my "enterprise" from) is 172.31.100.x, I should define the horizon host on the public network, right? So that the management UI is available from the enterprise? | 20:56 |
| larsks | choirboy: That seems to make sense, yes. | 20:56 |
| choirboy | cool | 20:56 |
| mischief | larsks: http://sprunge.us/FEeC ovs-vswitchd.log | 20:57 |
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| mischief | doesn't look too good, but i didnt see any other files with errors. not any in neutron at least | 20:57 |
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| mischief | this is the only content of neutron/server.log "2014-06-05 13:49:15.778 2142 WARNING neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-aebd9161-4f3c-44c8-b357-e379cca3cf6c None] Failed to bind port 9ab45389-1d48-413a-a4c7-c1b8bc1fd558 on host luh3417" | 20:58 |
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| choirboy | same for CONFIG_NOVA_VNCPROXY_HOST - the public network so folks from the enterprise can access VNC, right? | 20:58 |
| mischief | which seems bad too :) | 20:58 |
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| larsks | mischief: not ovs-vswitchd.log. neutron/openvswtich-agent.log | 20:58 |
| larsks | choirboy: yup! | 20:58 |
| choirboy | cool | 20:58 |
| mischief | larsks: empty | 20:58 |
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| larsks | mischief: on both the compute hosts *and* your controller? | 20:59 |
| mischief | larsks: there's only one | 20:59 |
| mischief | it's all on the same computer | 20:59 |
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| larsks | mischief: Okay. In that case it's very odd that the file is empty. | 20:59 |
| larsks | You are using neutron, right? | 21:00 |
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| mischief | aha | 21:00 |
| mischief | larsks: i restarted the neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent | 21:00 |
| mischief | http://sprunge.us/DSiY | 21:00 |
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| larsks | Okay. Then try launching a new instance and see what happens. | 21:02 |
| larsks | Consider tailing that log and nova/compute.log while it boots. | 21:02 |
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| mischief | same Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 21:02 |
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| mischief | there's a stacktrace relating to vif_type=binding_failed in nova/nova-compute.log | 21:03 |
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| mischief | http://sprunge.us/NUhV | 21:04 |
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| halbert | hey mischief, I don't mean to butt in in larsks, but can you check your neutron and nova rootwrap commands and see if they actually return 0 | 21:07 |
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| larsks | halbert: feel free to butt in! I'm distracted. | 21:07 |
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| halbert | I've seen it before where the rootwrap stuff getting called by sudo sometimes doesn't work | 21:10 |
| halbert | and you have to tweak your sudoers file | 21:10 |
| mischief | how do i use rootwrap | 21:10 |
| halbert | but yeah, I'm having exactly the same error | 21:10 |
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| zzelle | mischief, must of the time vif_type=binding_failed is a configuration mistake | 21:11 |
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| giorgis | hi again people | 21:12 |
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| giorgis | Error: Package: openstack-utils-2014.1-1.el6.noarch (openstack-icehouse) requires crudini | 21:12 |
| giorgis | any ideas? | 21:12 |
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| larsks | mischief: re zzelle 's comment: I call it "openstack's most useless error". It generally means something incorrect in your network configuration (which is why I was suggesting watching your neutron logs carefully). | 21:14 |
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| giorgis | to answer my own problem epel repo was not enabled!!! | 21:15 |
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| dtrainor | Howdy. Are there any user-configurable directives that point to an ove/neutron host, or does that host simply talk to the controller and the controller then tells the other systems where/what the ovs/neutron host is? | 21:15 |
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| mischief | halbert | 21:16 |
| mischief | i have never used rootwrap before | 21:16 |
| mischief | how do? | 21:16 |
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| zzelle | mischief, could you dump your ml2 plugin config ? | 21:17 |
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| mischief | /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini ? | 21:18 |
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| zzelle | yep | 21:19 |
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| mischief | http://sprunge.us/Rdgg | 21:19 |
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| zzelle | mechanism_drivers option is empty | 21:20 |
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| zzelle | mischief, if you are using neutron-plugin-openvswitch, iirc, you should set mechanism_drivers=openvswitch | 21:22 |
| mischief | i just followed the upgrade guide :s | 21:22 |
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| zzelle | could you update it and restart neutron-server ? | 21:23 |
| mischief | wait wait | 21:23 |
| halbert | zzelle: the mechaism_drivers option is right at the top | 21:23 |
| larsks | mischief: what is core_plugin in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf? are you using ml2? | 21:23 |
| halbert | it's enabled | 21:23 |
| mischief | it's at the top | 21:23 |
| zzelle | oups | 21:23 |
| mischief | core_plugin = ml2 | 21:23 |
| larsks | mischief: thanks. | 21:23 |
| halbert | mischief: it looks like what the install/upgrade guide tells you to do. | 21:24 |
| mischief | basically i followed http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/upgrades_havana-icehouse-ubuntu.html | 21:24 |
| larsks | dtrainor: clients typically discover api endpoints through the service catalog maintained by keystone. | 21:24 |
| mischief | to the best of my ability | 21:24 |
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| dtrainor | got it. thanks. trying to connect all of the two million dots. | 21:24 |
| mischief | too bad there's no one program to sanity check all of your configs. :) | 21:24 |
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| zzelle | mischief, could you dump the associated neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent stacktrace ? | 21:27 |
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| mischief | i'm being asked to take a photo with my team.. one moment >.> | 21:29 |
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| mischief | zzelle: that would be neutron/openvswitch-agent.log ? | 21:32 |
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| zzelle | mischief, yep | 21:35 |
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| mischief | zzelle: it's the same as before.. i pasted it a bit earlier http://sprunge.us/gbAc | 21:36 |
| zzelle | ERROR neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [req-74866d6b-d512-4452-b758-987569bafbd7 None] Cannot provision gre network for net-id=38de312f-510c-42e6-bb00-0c6053a22883 - tunneling disabled | 21:36 |
| zzelle | mischief, your node does not support gre ! | 21:37 |
| mischief | okay.. how do i .. | 21:37 |
| mischief | # lsmod | grep gre | 21:38 |
| mischief | gre 13796 1 openvswitch | 21:38 |
| mischief | :| | 21:38 |
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| zzelle | mischief, is it a virtual machine or lxc machine ? | 21:39 |
| mischief | the guests i am trying to boot are VM | 21:39 |
| mischief | the compute and controller (basically all of the services) are on one computer | 21:40 |
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| karimb | is there any guide on how to configure rabbit mq for use within icehouse | 21:40 |
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| zzelle | mischief, could you do the following command: | 21:41 |
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| mischief | yes | 21:43 |
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| zzelle | ovs-vsctl add-port br-tun taz -- set taz Interface type=gre | 21:43 |
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| zzelle | ovs-vsctl add-port br-tun taz -- set Interface taz type=gre | 21:43 |
| mischief | ovs-vsctl: unknown table "taz" | 21:43 |
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| mischief | i have br-ex br-int and br-tun | 21:44 |
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| zzelle | did you try first or last command ? | 21:45 |
| mischief | first | 21:45 |
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| zzelle | so try last :) | 21:45 |
| mischief | ok | 21:46 |
| mischief | it worked | 21:46 |
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| mischief | Port taz | 21:46 |
| mischief | Interface taz | 21:46 |
| mischief | type: gre | 21:46 |
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| mischief | so perhaps a configuration problem instead of lacking GRE | 21:46 |
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| zzelle | mischief, could you give me your ovs version ? last line of 'ovs-vsctl show" and your kernel version | 21:48 |
| mischief | ovs_version: "2.0.1" | 21:49 |
| mischief | Linux luh3417 3.13.0-27-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 18:06:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 21:49 |
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| zzelle | could enable debug on your plugin-agent and retry you test in order to get more details ? | 21:50 |
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| mischief | zzelle: stand by | 21:51 |
| zzelle | me .......... | 21:52 |
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| mischief | zzelle: by debug on plugin agent you mean ml2 or..? | 21:54 |
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| zzelle | neutron plugin openvswitch | 21:54 |
| halbert | mischief: he means, set the debug = True in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 21:54 |
| mischief | oh | 21:55 |
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| zzelle | i would prefer in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf | 21:55 |
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| mischief | zzelle: http://sprunge.us/YQNR | 21:57 |
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| zzelle | mischief, which version of neutron are you using trunk ? icehouse ? | 21:59 |
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| mischief | zzelle: icehouse | 22:00 |
| mischief | i just upgraded | 22:00 |
| jmickle | has anyone had problems with cloud init not resizing a disk on launch with centos? | 22:00 |
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| zzelle | i am not fluent with tunnels but it seems you should define AGENT.tunnel_types option | 22:04 |
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| zzelle | mischief, in ml2_conf.ini or neutron.conf ... set in [AGENT] sectin tunnel_types = gre | 22:07 |
| chuckC | hi all, does anyone here know the devstack settings needed to get horizon vm console to work? | 22:07 |
| mischief | zzelle: *or*? | 22:07 |
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| mischief | zzelle: is AGENT a placeholder for ml2 here...? | 22:08 |
| zzelle | mischief, choose which one you like most, the effect should be the same :) | 22:08 |
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| mischief | zzelle: Tunneling cannot be enabled without a valid local_ip. Agent terminated! | 22:15 |
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| zzelle | so define a local_ip in AGENT | 22:15 |
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| mischief | zzelle: is that the public ip? | 22:16 |
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| zzelle | oups, no it is the ip used by gre tunnels | 22:17 |
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| zzelle | i check, it is in local_ip in OVS section | 22:17 |
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| mischief | zzelle: uh, i switched from ovs to ml2 (i think) as recommended by the openstack havana to icehouse upgrade guide | 22:18 |
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| zzelle | mischief, OVS is still used | 22:19 |
| zzelle | mischief, before you use OVS core_plugin and plugin-agent | 22:19 |
| zzelle | mischief, now you use ML2 core plugin with plugin-agent | 22:20 |
| mischief | /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini has local_ip set in OVS section | 22:20 |
| zzelle | oup, s/plugin-agent/plugin-openvswitch-agent/s | 22:20 |
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| zzelle | mischief, on my deployment /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini is not used | 22:21 |
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| zzelle | prefer neutron.conf or ml2_conf.ini | 22:21 |
| mischief | err, so i add a [OVS] section to ml2_conf.ini? | 22:21 |
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| zzelle | yep, | 22:21 |
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| zzelle | mischief, if you are not sure of which options are loaded by a service, they are printed in debug logs | 22:22 |
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| mischief | hm | 22:24 |
| mischief | i think its working now | 22:24 |
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| zzelle | mischief, everything is one node ? | 22:25 |
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| mischief | yes | 22:25 |
| mischief | now i can at least boot the instance | 22:25 |
| zzelle | mischief, so you don't need gre ... | 22:25 |
| mischief | seems like dhcp is still messed up though | 22:25 |
| zzelle | mischief, you could use local networks | 22:25 |
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| mischief | larsks: you suggest cirros earlier? how can i get to the console? | 22:28 |
| mischief | ah | 22:28 |
| mischief | finally timed out | 22:28 |
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| mischief | rebooting :| | 22:30 |
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| halbert | zzelle: do you know what this [agent] variable means ? AGENT.l2_population | 22:34 |
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| zzelle | halbert, yep, it is for gre/vxlan | 22:34 |
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| zzelle | # (BoolOpt) Flag to enable l2-population extension. This option should only be | 22:36 |
| zzelle | # used in conjunction with ml2 plugin and l2population mechanism driver. It'll | 22:36 |
| zzelle | # enable plugin to populate remote ports macs and IPs (using fdb_add/remove | 22:36 |
| zzelle | # RPC calbbacks instead of tunnel_sync/update) on OVS agents in order to | 22:36 |
| zzelle | # optimize tunnel management. | 22:36 |
| zzelle | # | 22:36 |
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| mischief | oh shit | 22:36 |
| halbert | So set that to True ? | 22:36 |
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| zzelle | halbert, you have multiples nodes ? | 22:39 |
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| mischief | i'm beginning to think trying to use openstack was a mistake | 22:40 |
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| mischief | it's so complicated that it's barely worth the time for such a small use case | 22:41 |
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| halbert | zzelle: yeah I do | 22:42 |
| halbert | I've got 4 nodes | 22:42 |
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| zzelle | halbert, you can set it to true ... but it is not mandatory | 22:43 |
| halbert | okay | 22:43 |
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| halbert | zzelle: I'm still getting the same error mischief was getting | 22:43 |
| zzelle | it is a generic error linked to a configuration trouble | 22:44 |
| zzelle | halbert, look at mischief config | 22:44 |
| zzelle | soorry i have to leave | 22:44 |
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| halbert | zzelle, I will if he shares it :) | 22:46 |
| halbert | hey mischief, you mind emailing me your neutron.conf, ml2_conf.ini and your nova.conf ? | 22:46 |
| mischief | will that fix my dhcp | 22:46 |
| mischief | ^.^ | 22:46 |
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| halbert | nah, your dhcp-agent stuff is in a dhcp-agent.ini though right? | 22:50 |
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| mischief | halbert: yes | 22:54 |
| mischief | but it no longer functions | 22:54 |
| mischief | no vm gets ip | 22:54 |
| mischief | neutron agent-list shows all is fine.. | 22:55 |
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| halbert | mischief: well, I am still stuck where you were 20 minutes ago | 22:57 |
| halbert | so... | 22:57 |
| halbert | there was a guy who asked about this in this channel earlier this morning | 22:57 |
| halbert | I think #openstack has irc logs | 22:57 |
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| mischief | halbert: did you still want my configs | 22:58 |
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| halbert | yeah mischief, I'll look over them if you don't mind | 22:59 |
| halbert | please tarball them up and send them to my email address that I will msg to you | 22:59 |
| mischief | stand by | 22:59 |
| halbert | thanks | 22:59 |
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| halbert | you are on centos right? | 23:00 |
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| newbie123 | hello! I am attempting to install keystone on SLES11 and have added the repo per the documentation but i am having the same issue described in this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1289280 I run zypper search openstack and see openstack keystone has a srcpackage but no package. Is this normal behavior for the repo? help me i'm a noob | 23:01 |
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| mischief | halbert: no | 23:03 |
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| mischief | halbert: see pm | 23:04 |
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| mischief | starting to think i should just run docker ._.' | 23:09 |
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| sarob | mikal you online? | 23:59 |
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