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| pavera | I'm having some issues deploying openstack havana on ubuntu 12.04 | 01:13 |
| pavera | wondering if someone could look at the errors and let me know what I'm doing wrong | 01:14 |
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| pavera | it looks like ubuntu updated their cloud-archive, and now no matter what I get stevedore.extension errors trying to start nova-api, nova-scheduler, cinder-scheduler... basically they say six is out of date (1.1.0 but six>=1.4.1 is required) | 01:15 |
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| pavera | then, if I upgrade six, I get errors in nova-scheduler, nova-cert, nova-api that say six 1.4.1 but six<1.4.1 required | 01:16 |
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| pavera | I've deployed open stack quite a few times, and I've seen similar errors before, but updating the offending package has always fixed the problem.. this time because I get conflicting errors I'm a bit stumped | 01:18 |
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| Aimon | Pavera I ran into same issue .. have not had a chance to try to sort it yet. | 01:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've seen it with icehouse, but not havana | 01:23 |
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| Aimon | that makes me wonder of we have package version pollution | 01:23 |
| Aimon | *if | 01:24 |
| Aimon | I was definitely installing havana | 01:24 |
| Aimon | I suspect upgraded packages from icehouse got into maintream for havana | 01:24 |
| pavera | yeah | 01:25 |
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| pavera | thats what it feels like to me too | 01:25 |
| Aimon | this happenned in grizz at one point also with different packages | 01:25 |
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| pavera | I'm a python dev but have never used stevedore | 01:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nothing in the havana repo says 2014, right? | 01:25 |
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| pavera | so I'm having a hard time parsing where these requirements are defined | 01:25 |
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| pavera | it seems to indicate it just uses setup tools, but nothing in the requires.txt for anything defines six>=1.4.1 | 01:27 |
| pavera | not that I know of Sam-I-Am but it feels like the packages got built with newer code or something | 01:29 |
| pavera | like they built off an icehouse branch maybe | 01:29 |
| pavera | Of course, in github, the 2013.2.2 tag of nova/requirements.txt lists six>=1.4.1 | 01:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see 2013.2.2 in ubuntu now for havana | 01:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | it was just 2013.2 | 01:31 |
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| pavera | yeah and those are the packages I'm installing | 01:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when did these appear? | 01:31 |
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| pavera | March 7 | 01:31 |
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| pavera | I think they made a hash of the packaging process in this build, cause I put together a saltstack deployment that has been working flawlessly since october, probably done over 100 deployments... it broke last week, as far as I know there is no way to go back to 2013.2.1 in cloud-archive which is another annoying thing.. | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see python-six 1.1.0-2 in the repo | 01:33 |
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| pavera | yeah... but things require (somehow) >= 1.4.1, but if you install it (pip install six==1.4.1) then all the error messages flip and say six<1.4.1 required | 01:34 |
| Aimon | pavera that is a choice they made when indexing the repo.. In general ubuntu repos do not support the multiversion flag | 01:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on my icehouse box, i see 1.5.2 | 01:35 |
| Aimon | so there is no way to specify an older verison unless you manually download and install or create your own repo (Which is what we do.. ) | 01:35 |
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| pavera | yeah, we're planning on creating our own as well | 01:35 |
| Aimon | good choice | 01:35 |
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| Aimon | and index it with the -m flag :) | 01:35 |
| Aimon | or use version specific repo snaps (also what we did) | 01:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're pretty sure this is a packaging issue, you could e-mail chuck short who manages cloud-archive | 01:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've contacted him before about these sorts of things | 01:36 |
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| pavera | well I'd like to do any necessary verification but I'm a bit lost in how the code determines the dependencies | 01:36 |
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| pavera | it's some voodoo magic in stevedore | 01:37 |
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| Aimon | pavera I am trying to reproduce again to.. but having issues.. its been 2 weeks since I looked a this.. what package had the conflict for you? | 01:38 |
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| pavera | all the nova- services | 01:39 |
| pavera | nova-api, nova-scheduler, nova-cert... | 01:39 |
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| Aimon | ok let me check my controller | 01:39 |
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| Aimon | ah interesting I had the issue on compute | 01:40 |
| pavera | they'll all complain in the log files that they need six>=1.4.1, then after you update they complain that they need six<1.4.1 and I can't bring up an instance | 01:40 |
| Aimon | ah you are doing an all in one server? | 01:40 |
| pavera | no | 01:40 |
| pavera | I have a controller, a compute, and a network node | 01:40 |
| pavera | well... 3 computes... | 01:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything on the mailing lists about this? | 01:41 |
| Aimon | ah yes | 01:41 |
| Aimon | 2014-03-18 18:41:28.862 13818 TRACE stevedore.extension VersionConflict: (six 1.4.1 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('six<1.4.1')) | 01:41 |
| Aimon | its a compute issue | 01:41 |
| pavera | when I try to bring up an instance nova-scheduler gets tracebacks in the log and never talks to the compute nodes | 01:42 |
| Aimon | I had tried adjusting verison via pip.. but it just confdlicts itself with the message | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | id say chuck short is a good bet | 01:42 |
| Aimon | +1 to that | 01:42 |
| Aimon | this is definitely a packaging/versioning issue | 01:42 |
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| Aimon | haha at the log message | 01:43 |
| Aimon | raise VersionConflict(dist,req) # XXX put more info here | 01:43 |
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| pavera | ok, can I look his email up on launchpad? | 01:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah. or post to the list with [nova] in the subject | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably keeps an eye on that too | 01:44 |
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| Aimon | https://launchpad.net/~zulcss | 01:44 |
| Aimon | pavera I am glad I am not the only one ;) | 01:45 |
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| ryou-soda | root | 01:45 |
| Aimon | we recently switched back to CentOS/RHEL so I didnt worry about it much at the time | 01:45 |
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| pavera | yeah this is making me consider moving to CentOS | 01:46 |
| pavera | more stable over there? | 01:46 |
| Aimon | A year ago I would have saud no .. they are to slow to keep up | 01:47 |
| Aimon | *said | 01:47 |
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| Aimon | but now is a different story | 01:47 |
| pavera | yeah... that was the feeling I got last summer/fall when I was first investigating | 01:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i find each distro has its moments | 01:47 |
| Aimon | yep | 01:47 |
| pavera | yeah.. | 01:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | tracking icehouse has been particularly amusing | 01:48 |
| pavera | nothings perfect its all just software | 01:48 |
| Aimon | RedHat has spent a lot of energy recently getting up tp speed | 01:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | ubuntu has been pretty on target with milestone releases... redhat/rdo not so much. i still can't get icehouse to work with the rdo packages. | 01:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and i'm trying to write the install guide updates for it | 01:48 |
| Aimon | spent a bit of time with them last week at ther MountainView office | 01:49 |
| Aimon | they are all-in it seems now | 01:49 |
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| Aimon | I was pleased and excited to see how they evolve | 01:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you in CA? | 01:51 |
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| Aimon | Sam-I-Am a) I love your nick.. b) yes recently relocated back to CA | 02:00 |
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| pavera | email to chuck is in the wind.. | 02:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CA looks awesome | 02:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | especially after this winter :/ | 02:01 |
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| Aimon | yes good rain! now all green | 02:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | this nick goes way back... 20 years now. | 02:02 |
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| Aimon | haha nice! | 02:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | someone suggested it and... it stuck. | 02:02 |
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| Aimon | those are the best kind | 02:02 |
| Aimon | I was in Portland OR for 6 years.. got sick of he rain | 02:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | ew | 02:03 |
| Aimon | am a Venice Beach boy originally | 02:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm in colorado. sick of the winter. | 02:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i escape to CA when it gets really bad here | 02:04 |
| Aimon | well at least you can ski etc.. portland was all mush and Mt Hood never got white | 02:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | skiing isnt easy from here. lots of traffic and expensive. | 02:04 |
| Aimon | lol yeah it has lways been a sport for the .. well.. not broke | 02:05 |
| Aimon | which excluded me most of my life ;) | 02:05 |
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| Aimon | Pavera did you also create a ticket? | 02:07 |
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| pavera | no I have not.. | 02:07 |
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| Aimon | would be good idea.. I owuld gladly give it a +1 on reproduceability | 02:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i do things that require nice weather | 02:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | Aimon: you guys work for the same place or something? | 02:08 |
| Aimon | nope | 02:08 |
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| Aimon | well no more then we all do ;) | 02:08 |
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| Aimon | I recently moved companies.. was restricted from community on certain ways in past company due to various bussiness b.s.s | 02:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, you mentioned a ticketing system so i wondered... | 02:10 |
| Aimon | New company very supportive. so I am happy to get back into contributing | 02:10 |
| Aimon | no I meant lauchpad | 02:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ahh ok | 02:11 |
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| pavera | Aimon https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1294440 | 02:18 |
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| Aimon | pavera thx! subscribed and addd that it effects me.. | 02:34 |
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| pavera | thanks :) | 02:35 |
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| PEPPERONIE | Hi all, I'm working through this tutorial: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-install.dedicated-network-node.html | 04:12 |
| PEPPERONIE | and unfortunately I don't have a machine with three interfaces to work with | 04:12 |
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| PEPPERONIE | can the DATA_INTERFACE and EXTERNAL_INTERFACE NICs be the same physical NIC? | 04:12 |
| PEPPERONIE | I'd like to avoid subinterfaces if I can | 04:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i would be more likely to mix data and management | 04:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and leave the external by itself | 04:14 |
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| PEPPERONIE | Sam-I-Am: so what's the use case for external vs data? | 04:19 |
| PEPPERONIE | and why do I need one of each? | 04:19 |
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| PEPPERONIE | I'm trying to work off of the single flat network neutron configuration | 04:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it helps separate traffic and simplify troubleshooting | 04:21 |
| PEPPERONIE | Sam-I-Am: got it, thank you. | 04:21 |
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| PEPPERONIE | Sam-I-Am: so I'm trying to turn my controller node into a network node as well, I'm assuming the management stuff is mostly unaffected apart from the data + management network configuration | 04:23 |
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| shalmaliss | Hi All, I have deployed three node configuration with neutron | 04:35 |
| shalmaliss | and in the same I deployed another controller | 04:35 |
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| shalmaliss | now this controller is also configured with glance so, While launching VM which glance image will be used ? | 04:36 |
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| xavpaice | so you have two controllers each running a separate glance? | 04:47 |
| xavpaice | what's the backend storage for those? | 04:47 |
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| r_mohan | Hi. Can I use a 4 GB Mac to install and run as a first step to learn enough to be able to contribute ? Should I use some cloud somewhere because my machine is small ? | 05:44 |
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| veena | How does live VM migration works? | 06:28 |
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| prathamesh | hello | 06:44 |
| prathamesh | i want to write unit test cases for openstack cinder wanted to know how they actually function https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/havana/cinder/tests/test_HpSanISCSIDriver.py so in this case, please see line no. 315 does this actually call the main driver function or the intent of fake test cases is just to return dummy/bogus values only for the sake of simulating the create_volume driver code how does it actually | 06:44 |
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| nwonknu | got a problem with an openstack+AD setup here, two users get "You are not authorized for any projects." when they attempt to login on the webif | 11:45 |
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| nwonknu | keystone.log shows a "bad search filter" | 11:46 |
| nwonknu | exception | 11:46 |
| nwonknu | (other AD users can still login fine) | 11:46 |
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| larsks | nwonknu: I'm not familiar with keystone's LDAP support, but does running with debug=True let you see the LDAP queries it's making? | 13:04 |
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| sneezewort | I need to run "ethtool -K eth0 tso off" on each VM before I get any acceptable network speed. Is there a way to automate this for all newly created VMs? Is there another way of solving this problem? | 13:58 |
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| tomixxx5 | hi, i cannot ping VM instance A on physical node 1 from physical node 2, instance B. i'am using nova-networking and have followed the official guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html | 14:00 |
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| viktork2 | good morning | 14:07 |
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| viktork2 | can a non-admin users create networks in neutron | 14:08 |
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| viktork2 | because I get: {"NeutronError": {"message": "Policy doesn't allow create_network to be performed.", "type": "PolicyNotAuthorized", "detail": ""}} | 14:08 |
| viktork2 | so I assume I have to edit policy.json to get it working, or do something else maybe? | 14:09 |
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| neo1691 | Hi, Can someone give me good beginners resource to what is openstack? and is bitnami openstack? till today I used to run the web apps like moodle or wordpress/drupal in localhost! Completely new to openstack! | 14:39 |
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| mtrisoline | http://docs.openstack.org is probably a good place to start. | 14:41 |
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| larsks | viktork2: Generally, yes, non-admin users should be able to create networks. Should work that way "out of the box". | 14:42 |
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| larsks | The exception is that only admin users can create external networks. | 14:42 |
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| tcpsyn | morning | 14:42 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: ok so what should I exit to get it working, I haven't messed with policy(ies) yet | 14:43 |
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| larsks | viktork2: I'm not really sure; I'm not sure why you're getting that error in the first place. How did you install openstack? | 14:44 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: following 'havana' guide | 14:45 |
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| tcpsyn | I'm trying to understand the requirements for installing an openstack environment in my house, so I can learn openstack by using it, and replace the dedicated server that I have performing all my normal functions (webserver,dns,sql,news server,owncloud... etc) | 14:47 |
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| tcpsyn | From my understanding, I'll need two reasonably powered boxes... a chef server and an openstack controller node. | 14:47 |
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| tcpsyn | Is that true, or is this dumb to even try? | 14:47 |
| mpetason | tcpsyn: look at devstack for a single server install if you just need it to work easily, and to start using it. | 14:47 |
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| larsks | tcpsyn: I set up testing environments on my laptop using vms for the various openstack hosts. | 14:48 |
| tcpsyn | mpetason: I tried to install devstack in a vm yesterday and I just didn't have the ram | 14:48 |
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| tcpsyn | so it blew up | 14:48 |
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| neo1691 | mtrisoline: is bitnami openstack? I mean what they are providing here is an openstack right? http://bitnami.com/stack/tracks | 14:49 |
| mpetason | tcpsyn: you used devstack: inspector gadget version? | 14:49 |
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| larsks | viktork2: This is what my /etc/neutron/policy.json file looks like: http://chunk.io/f/289fb061735f4433a9bb0a9de72b8cdd | 14:49 |
| tcpsyn | er... dunno, grabbed devstack from git on ubuntu 13.10 | 14:49 |
| larsks | viktork2: This is Havana on F19. Does that look like what you have? | 14:49 |
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| mpetason | tcpsyn: you'll have to check out their specs. ideally you would install it over a base OS of ubuntu/centos on the hardware. | 14:50 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: I'll do quick diff | 14:50 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: its identical | 14:50 |
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| mtrisoline | neo1691: no bitnami is not openstack, openstack is in the simplest terms for building out a private cloud | 14:52 |
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| larsks | viktork2: That's weird. What command were you running exactly that resulted in that error? | 14:53 |
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| viktork2 | neutron net-create vlan18-dev --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 --provider:segmentation_id 9 | 14:55 |
| viktork2 | {"NeutronError": {"message": "Policy doesn't allow create_network to be performed.", "type": "PolicyNotAuthorized", "detail": ""}} | 14:55 |
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| neo1691 | Okay! thanks mtrisoline I think i need to download the installer as well as a virtual machine! | 14:56 |
| larsks | viktork2: Ah, take a look at that policy.json file. All of the provider network commands appear to require admin access. | 14:56 |
| larsks | viktork2: This makes sense, if you think about. | 14:56 |
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| larsks | viktork2: You don't want arbitrary users to be able to directly attach things to your local networks. | 14:56 |
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| mtrisoline | neo1691: look at devstack and packstack | 14:58 |
| mtrisoline | to get you started | 14:58 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: so on all lines having create_network I need to have "rule:admin_only,member" | 14:59 |
| baffle | Anyone have any idea why Keystone would issue tokens with "expires" set to current time? I.e. AUTHing to servivices doesn't work, since all tokens expire instantly.. Or so it would seem. | 14:59 |
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| baffle | (Keystone from git/master) | 15:00 |
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| larsks | viktork2: Yeah, if you want all members to have that capability. | 15:00 |
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| neo1691 | Okay! :) | 15:00 |
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| larsks | viktork2: And I'm not 100% sure what the syntax would be. | 15:01 |
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| viktork2 | larsks: may I just put a specific username there? like "rule:admin_only,viktor" for example | 15:01 |
| viktork2 | larsks: ok | 15:02 |
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| coredump | is there a page somewhere comparing nova-network vs neutron capabilities | 15:13 |
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| mtrisoline | coredump: neutron is if you want a fully software defined network w/ Firewalls, Routers, etc. if you don't have an existing large network that has lots of hardware firewalls, routers, and load balancers I would say thats what you want to use, but its more compicated to set up than nova-network. Nova network is good for existing networks where you already have all the hardware and uses pretty much the basic linux bridgi | 15:16 |
| tomixxx5 | hi, i have a question: is it necessary, that the ip-range defined here "nova network-create vmnet --fixed-range-v4=10.0.0.0/24 \ | 15:17 |
| tomixxx5 | --bridge=br100 --multi-host=T" has to be equal with the ip-range of the external network defined here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html | 15:17 |
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| tomixxx5 | plz, it's really important | 15:17 |
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| mtrisoline | tomixx5: the nova network-create is for the internal network that the VM's pull DHCP from | 15:17 |
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| larsks | mtrisoline coredump: I would not think of neutron vs. nova in terms of "having existing networks" or not. Neutron allows your tenants to design their own network topologies, which can be useful even if you *do* have an existing network infrastructure. In general, neutron offers a lot more flexibility, but is also substantially more complicated. | 15:18 |
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| coredump | ok so I have a network with firewalls and routers and many switches. The only thing I really need is to vms to be able to use tagged vlans. | 15:20 |
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| mtrisoline | coredump: I am doing pretty much the same thing. I map the vlans to physical nic's and associate multiple vnic to the vms based on which vlan or vlans it needs to be on | 15:21 |
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| mtrisoline | so I have something lie br100,br200,br300,br400 etc. | 15:21 |
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| mtrisoline | coredump: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/using-multi-nics.html | 15:22 |
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| mtrisoline | I am using havana, but have used that as a guide, I believe after icehouse nova-network is to be depricated | 15:22 |
| coredump | oh well that answers the question then :P | 15:23 |
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| t4nk285 | hi | 15:31 |
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| tomixxx5 | t4nk285: hi, can i ask u sth? | 15:39 |
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| t4nk285 | tomixxx5: yes, i search a template for Heat | 15:42 |
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| t4nk285 | to do Autoscaling | 15:42 |
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| tomixxx5 | t4nk285: ok, it's a really important question. when i use the command "nova network-create vmnet --fixed-range-v4=10.0.0.0/24 --bridge=br100 --multi-host=T" in order to create a network for my VMs, does the fixed ip-range have to be the same as defined in "external network" here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html, where the exterinal network is 10.0.0.X with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 ? | 15:44 |
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| t4nk285 | i use neutron for network | 15:45 |
| tomixxx5 | ok | 15:45 |
| t4nk285 | ive found template for autoscaling but it's a aws's template | 15:47 |
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| t4nk285 | i want heat template | 15:47 |
| t4nk285 | and with aws template i have this error | 15:47 |
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| tomixxx5 | i can ping and ssh a virtual instance from my controller node, but i cannot browse to it with 10.0.0.3/wordpress for examplke (i have installed this wordpress app there) | 15:48 |
| t4nk285 | BadRequest: Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific. (HTTP 400) | 15:48 |
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| tomixxx5 | firefox says: "unable to connect" | 15:48 |
| tomixxx5 | wget http://10.0.0.3/ says "failed: connection refused" | 15:49 |
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| tomixxx5 | ah ok, the same is, if i try to execute this command on the hypervisor which is running the VM which is running wordpress | 15:50 |
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| tomixxx5 | if i try to ssh one of my instances, i get "permission denied, please try again" when iam prompt to enter a password | 15:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | for example, for the example instance provided here http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-boot.html, the password "cubswin:)" does not work! | 15:58 |
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| cslamar | I'm trying to get NFS shared storage for the instances working, and everything I try and create an instance it fails with 'IOError: [Errno 37] No locks available'. I have all the directories and user/groups lined up. Anyone experienced this before? | 15:59 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: Note that for that example, you need to be logging into the "cirros" account. | 15:59 |
| cslamar | user nova can write to all directories shared within the mount | 15:59 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: ok, is it correct if the only sign i can see after login is a "$" ? | 16:00 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: have logged in now with: "sudo ssh cirros@10.0.0.2" | 16:01 |
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| jgriffith | #startmeeting cinder | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 19 16:01:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| larsks | Yes, that's a typical shell prompt. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
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| larsks | jgriffith: A meeting on #openstack and not on one of the -meeting channels? | 16:01 |
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| jgriffith | larsks: yeah... sorry | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 19 16:01:46 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: kk | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-03-19-16.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-03-19-16.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-03-19-16.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| jokke_ | cslamar: do you have the rpc lockd running? | 16:01 |
| larsks | I wish they were all that quick :) | 16:01 |
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| cslamar | jokke_ on the nfs server or clients? | 16:03 |
| jokke_ | server | 16:03 |
| jokke_ | if you do prcinfo -p <host> against the server do you get rpc program id 100024 in the list? | 16:04 |
| jokke_ | rpcinfo even | 16:04 |
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| tomixxx5 | does someone now the login credentials for the wordpress stack? | 16:04 |
| tomixxx5 | -now, +know | 16:04 |
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| cslamar | jokke_ checking | 16:05 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: In most cases, the only available login credentials are the ssh key you specified when booting an instance. The default user will be determined by the image you're using ("fedora" for fedora images, for example). | 16:05 |
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| cslamar | jokke_ I do not get program id 100024 | 16:07 |
| tomixxx5 | larsks: image is "F17-x86_64-cfntools" | 16:07 |
| larsks | Actually, for a heat deployed config, the default user is probably "ec2-user". | 16:07 |
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| jokke_ | cslamar: ok, so your lockd is not running, that's why the NFS is complaining | 16:07 |
| larsks | Again, there is no password; you need to use your ssh key. | 16:07 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: how can i login with the ssh key? | 16:08 |
| cslamar | jokke_ thanks very much. I'll do some googling to try and figure it out. Thanks again for the point in the right direction :) | 16:08 |
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| jokke_ | cslamar: either enable the rpc lockd or mount the clients without locking (later one you most probably don't want to do) :) | 16:08 |
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| cslamar | :) | 16:08 |
| jokke_ | cslamar: no problem | 16:08 |
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| tomixxx5 | wordpress is deployed on 10.0.0.3. i tried to ssh with "ssh 10.0.0.3" but i always have to enter a password | 16:10 |
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| tomixxx5 | another problem is, that i can ping and ssh my VMs (except wordpress) but i cannot point to the wordpress app with my browser if i execute: 10.0.0.3/wordpress | 16:11 |
| larsks | tomixxx5: For key-based authentication to work, you need (a) to upload a public key to openstack and (b) to provide the key name when booting an instance. And of course, before that you need to create an ssh key. If you use the default filename you shouldn't need to do anything special with ssh. Also note that "ssh 10.0.0.3" will try to connect using your local username, which is almost never what you | 16:11 |
| larsks | want. | 16:11 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: If you can ping and ssh but http is not working that suggests either firewall or security group issues. | 16:11 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/basic-install_operate.html has some information about using ssh keys. | 16:12 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: i have followed the official guide, i have created the key and created security groups. nevertheless, it does not work, i.e. i cannot use http | 16:13 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: You're going to first need to successfully log into the instance before we can look at the http issue. If you have created the key and provided the KeyName parameter in your heat template, you shoud be able to simplly connect via "ssh ec2-user@10.0.0.3" | 16:14 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: ok, ec2-user@10.0.0.3 got me in it seems, console output is: "[ec2-user@(none) ~]$" | 16:16 |
| larsks | tomixxx5: Good. Now you can become root by running "sudo su -". | 16:16 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: k, iam root now | 16:17 |
| larsks | And then you can run "iptables -S" to see if your firewall rules permit http access. Feel free to pastebin the output somewhere. | 16:17 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7120586/ | 16:18 |
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| larsks | Okay, so it's not a firewall issue. | 16:18 |
| larsks | Run "netstat -tln"; do you see anything listening on port 80? | 16:18 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: no, nothing is listeing on port 80 | 16:19 |
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| larsks | Well, that explains why you can't connect using http :) | 16:19 |
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| tomixxx5 | i mean, i dont know exactly, there are some wildcards used: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7120593/ | 16:20 |
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| tomixxx5 | but ofc, this would explain it. i thought with establing this stack on a VM , web app is fully installed and webserver is already running | 16:20 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: I think that's the intent, but there may have been issues with the deployment. Your netstat output does show that there is no http service running. | 16:21 |
| larsks | Is httpd installed? ("rpm -q httpd") | 16:21 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: no, not installed | 16:21 |
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| larsks | So it sounds like the instance configuration failed. | 16:22 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: however, when i go to stack events i cann see "create complete" | 16:23 |
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| tomixxx5 | i mean, the dashboard is showing state "Create Complete" | 16:23 |
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| larsks | Which template are you using? One of the ones from https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates? | 16:24 |
| tomixxx5 | larsks: this one: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance.template | 16:24 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: So: that template has no way to tell if the instance configuration succeeeds or fails, so it will report "create complete" as soon as the instances are up and running. | 16:25 |
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| larsks | That template relies on some of the cloudformation tools to be installed and working properly on instance. They should be, based on the image that you're using, but I'm not entirely familiar with them. | 16:26 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: ok | 16:29 |
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| tomixxx5 | is it ok, when i cannot ping a VM deployed on hypervisor A from hypervisor B? however, i can ping VM X on hypervisor A from VM Y on hypervisor B | 16:51 |
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| tomixxx5 | moreover, from the controller node (which is not a hypervisor) i can ping all VMs on all hypervisors | 16:52 |
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| Phibs | are there any CLI tools to add users/domains/etc via keystone v3 api? | 16:55 |
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| baffle | I'm having problems with all tokens created from keystone having their expires-field set to the current time and date. This means that all further requests will revoke the token, and the request fails, like this: http://pastebin.com/uftwg441 | 17:19 |
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| baffle | Has anyone seen this before? | 17:19 |
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| baffle | I'm running directly from master. | 17:19 |
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| larsks | I am not brave enough to run from master :) | 17:22 |
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| baffle | larsks: I have one running Havana wich works fine, but I need/want some features. And, hey, shit needs testing. :) | 17:24 |
| baffle | (It's not in production. Yet.) | 17:24 |
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| baffle | Hmm, interresting, the create_token function in keystone/tokens/backends/kvs.py creates the expire string like this: expires_str = timeutils.isotime(data_copy['expires'], subsecond=True) | 17:25 |
| baffle | If data_copy['expires'] is None, it would match my behaviour.. | 17:25 |
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| baffle | printf-debugging to the rescue, I guess. | 17:26 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, there was a bug patched recently that caused an issue with revocation due to revoke_api be loaded by default | 17:26 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, oh you're talking about middleware | 17:27 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, nvm | 17:27 |
| baffle | morganfainberg: Well, I think the bug is in the middleware, but I'm not entirely sure. :) | 17:27 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, to look at the where the expires time is set you need to look at the token provider | 17:28 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, keystone.token.providers.common iirc | 17:28 |
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| morganfainberg | issue_v2_token and isssue_v3_token | 17:29 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: Thanks, first I'll try to see how the data looks at that point, and try to nest myself backwards. :) | 17:33 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: At least I know who to ask, noticed you had written the comment block above. ;) | 17:33 |
| morganfainberg | lol | 17:33 |
| morganfainberg | yeah i wrote a chunk of that code :P | 17:33 |
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| t4nk285 | hi | 17:44 |
| t4nk285 | i use a heat template for autoscaling | 17:44 |
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| t4nk285 | but when i lauch it i got this error | 17:44 |
| t4nk285 | Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific | 17:45 |
| t4nk285 | ive add this line | 17:45 |
| t4nk285 | +s | 17:45 |
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| t4nk285 | NetID + SubnetID | 17:45 |
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| t4nk285 | but no changes ... | 17:45 |
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| jain_mj | neutron net-list | 18:57 |
| jain_mj | Request Failed: internal server error while processing your request. | 18:57 |
| jain_mj | ['Traceback (most recent call last):\n', ' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py", line 438, in _process_data\n **args)\n', ' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/common/rpc.py", line 45, in dispatch\n neutron_ctxt, version, method, namespace, **kwargs)\n', ' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/openstack/common/rpc/dispatcher.py", line 172, in dispatch\n result = getattr(proxyobj, met | 18:57 |
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| jain_mj | i had create a net and subnet earlier and now made changes to neutron | 18:58 |
| jain_mj | changed from ML2 to OVS plugin | 18:59 |
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| jain_mj | now i am getting this error | 18:59 |
| jain_mj | looks like a missing config. not sure what | 18:59 |
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| jain_mj | larsks: any idea? | 19:22 |
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| larsks | jain_mj: Can you pastebin the complete trackback somewhere? That appears to be truncated.. | 19:24 |
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| jain_mj | sure | 19:24 |
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| jain_mj | http://paste.openstack.org/show/73850/ | 19:26 |
| jain_mj | havana on debian 7 | 19:26 |
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| xavpaice | can existing networks be used when you change the plugin? I would have thought a change like that would require removal of all the networks first? | 19:28 |
| jain_mj | I am yet to get neutron working. so trying different options | 19:29 |
| larsks | If you are just trying to get things to work, starting fresh each time is going to make your life much simpler. | 19:30 |
| jain_mj | i should have deleted the networks and VMs first. | 19:30 |
| larsks | I don't know if this is a requirement or not, but it removes one layer of complexity. | 19:30 |
| larsks | I use neutron+ovs+gre and I haven't encountered any problems. I have not experimented with the ML2 support yet. | 19:30 |
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| jain_mj | ok. let me start afresh once more | 19:33 |
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| FoXMaN | hello | 19:39 |
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| FoXMaN | what hardware do you have for object and block storage in your clouds? | 19:40 |
| FoXMaN | any bad experiences with NFS exported space for keeping vm images? | 19:40 |
| FoXMaN | or block storage | 19:40 |
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| xavpaice | FoXMaN: I think it depends on the scale of your deployment | 20:10 |
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| PEPPERONIE | Hi all, I'm still struggling with neutron and the various ways you can deploy it | 20:16 |
| PEPPERONIE | I'm copying this design pattern: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/section_neutron-single-flat.html | 20:16 |
| PEPPERONIE | Keystone, nova, glance are all set up using Puppet | 20:16 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: Got back to looking at it now; Should data_copy['expires'] really contain the current time? Shouldn't it be current time + expires from config? | 20:23 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: I dump the value to the log, and it log timestamp is 2014-03-19 21:23:34.023, expires is 2014-03-19 21:23:33. | 20:25 |
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| FoXMaN | xavpaice: let's say 32 physical servers | 20:35 |
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| FoXMaN | xavpaice: what scale is it? :) | 20:36 |
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| xavpaice | big enough to demand a pretty good NFS server :) | 20:36 |
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| * xavpaice likes ceph/rbd above NFS but NFS works on small scale OK | 20:37 | |
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| baffle | FoXMaN: Not deployed yet, but I'm planning on getting a bunch of these for Ceph: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-73THDP_.cfm | 20:41 |
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| baffle | If anyone has any experience with them for this purpose (typical 12*4TB for data + 2*1000G SSD for cache), please report. :) | 20:41 |
| baffle | (And if anyone has any better ideas, those are also welcome) | 20:42 |
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| FoXMaN | hmm | 20:43 |
| FoXMaN | baffle: why ceph? | 20:43 |
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| xavpaice | baffle: opencompute hardware is NICE | 20:44 |
| xavpaice | ceph = performance of big brand storage systems, 1/10 of cost, plus open source so fixable | 20:44 |
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| rallyone | Tired of niggers? | 20:47 |
| rallyone | Sick of their monkeyshines? | 20:47 |
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| rallyone | http://www.chimpout.com/forum | 20:47 |
| scuttlemonkey | oh good, target practice for an Op | 20:48 |
| scuttlemonkey | flush twice and wash your hands | 20:48 |
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| baffle | xavpaice: Yeah, I know, but as far as I know it's a bit hard to get hold if it (at a good price) unless you're comitting to 1000 items. :) | 20:48 |
| baffle | xavpaice: If you have any good source, please share. :) | 20:49 |
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| xavpaice | baffle: will ask around - we're buying small quantities of OCP stuff here | 20:49 |
| rallyone | http://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg | 20:49 |
| rallyone | this right here | 20:49 |
| rallyone | now that is an error message | 20:49 |
| rallyone | courtesy macintosh | 20:49 |
| xavpaice | thank goodness for /ignore | 20:50 |
| -rallyone- Tired of niggers? | 20:50 | |
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| -rallyone- Sick of their monkeyshines? | 20:50 | |
| -rallyone- We are too! | 20:51 | |
| -rallyone- Join Chimpout Forum! | 20:51 | |
| -rallyone- http://www.chimpout.com/forum | 20:51 | |
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| rallyone | :D | 20:51 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, jeblair, clarkb, ^ any chance we can get a ban? | 20:51 |
| rallyone | no morganfagenberg | 20:51 |
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| rallyone | TIRED of niggers? | 20:52 |
| baffle | xavpaice: Thanks! | 20:52 |
| -rallyone- http://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg | 20:52 | |
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| morganfainberg | jeblair, thanks dude! | 20:53 |
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| FoXMaN | hmm if you were to buy commercial storage for openstack what would you go with? | 20:57 |
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| morganfainberg | FoXMaN, that becomes a question of what you're aiming to use the storage for. root disks? added volume storage for some instances? db backing? | 20:58 |
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| morganfainberg | FoXMaN, I can tell you it depends on use case and load (like most storage). | 20:58 |
| scuttlemonkey | FoXMaN: (as a completely bias source) I would buy commodity hardware and use Ceph :) | 21:00 |
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| scuttlemonkey | <-- works for inktank...so take with requisite grain of salt | 21:00 |
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| mmmucky | <-- does not work for inktank, is backing OpenStack with Ceph. | 21:00 |
| morganfainberg | scuttlemonkey, ++ | 21:00 |
| * mmmucky would also recommend. | 21:01 | |
| jrwren | <-- does not work for inktank and wished he'd used ceph | 21:01 |
| scuttlemonkey | haha | 21:01 |
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| morganfainberg | scuttlemonkey, I was trying to be unbiased, but I personally like Ceph | 21:01 |
| scuttlemonkey | /cheer | 21:01 |
| baffle | morganfainberg: I found out what happend. I had expiretime set to 3600, the default. It used to be set to 86400 before, but I changed it when I switched from sql to memcached. But it seems token/core uses UTC to calculate the expiration time. | 21:01 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, AHA! yeah that'd do it | 21:01 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: And I'm utc+1. So the expiration time is utc + 3600 secs, wich.. is now.. :) | 21:01 |
| baffle | morganfainberg: I don't think that is by design? Should I report it as a bug? | 21:02 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, It should use utc for everything | 21:02 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, not care about your local tz | 21:02 |
| morganfainberg | i thought we fixed that a while back | 21:02 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, can you outline your exact setup and behavior you are seeing | 21:03 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, if it is working like i _think_ you're describing, I'm seeing this as an RC bug. | 21:03 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: I'm running from master, rev a1dc3ad5c884561a1403b4465e1af4dae1a08748 . | 21:04 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, ok | 21:06 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, i know where you are in the code base then | 21:06 |
| baffle | morganfainberg: [auth] token=keystone.auth.plugins.token.Token [memcache] servers = <3 servers> [token] provider = keystone.token.providers.pki.Provider driver=keystone.token.backends.memcache.Token (Wich points to KVS it seems) | 21:06 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, correct | 21:07 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, and your local system TZ is utc+1? | 21:07 |
| baffle | morganfainberg: I'm at UTC+1. Clock is UTC, TZ is Europe/Oslo. | 21:07 |
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| dolphm | i joined late, but http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/memcached-and-system-time.html | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, ok | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i thought we fixed that on master? | 21:08 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i thought so too -- i'm looking for the fix now | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | this is about 4 commits behind head. | 21:08 |
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| morganfainberg | so. | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | if we didn't we better get that comment back in ;) | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | (i think it's gone now) | 21:09 |
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| dolphm | the change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40378/ | 21:09 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, that looks like it | 21:09 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i wonder if i caused a regression moving to dogpile. | 21:10 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, *looks at code* | 21:10 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: the test introduced in that patch appears to be gone in master | 21:11 |
| baffle | Yeah, if I understand it correctly, the old memcache-config is not really used, it just points to the kvs wich basically is dogpile.. Right? | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that test, iirc was moved to the base token_test | 21:11 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, correct | 21:11 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's a lie, it's still there | 21:11 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i* lied | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh well look at that we don't call unixtime anywhere | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | yep, looks like regression moving to dogpile | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, memcache server time is utc+1 as well? | 21:12 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: Yeah memcache is on the same host. | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | yeah, please open a bug on this. | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | i'll get to working on it asap. | 21:12 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i'll tag this to RC1 and get a real test in place for it. or make sure we're not glossing over the test. | 21:13 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, good catch! | 21:14 |
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| baffle | The solution is ofcourse just to change the default value of [token] expiration in conf. :-) | 21:15 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, or the system time to be UTC ;) | 21:16 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, nah, this should be either documented that the system time must be UTC _or_ should be fixed correctly (fix the regression - the right answer) | 21:17 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle, once you have the bug let me know the bug number | 21:19 |
| FoXMaN | scuttlemonkey: :) we use lustre for HPC cluster and lustre is considered stable | 21:19 |
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| FoXMaN | ceph is still under development | 21:19 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1294862 | 21:20 |
| scuttlemonkey | FoXMaN: that's a bit of a misnomer | 21:20 |
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| scuttlemonkey | ceph has been stable/production ready for object and block for quite a while now | 21:20 |
| FoXMaN | from our experience i know that stable lustre is not always stable | 21:20 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: Sorry for the somewhat badly written bug report, I guess I haven't researched it enough. | 21:20 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, nah is all good | 21:20 |
| scuttlemonkey | if you want a filesystem that wont be considered "stable" until later this year | 21:20 |
| FoXMaN | so how stable might be not-yet-stable ceph | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | baffle, we talked it out here, i have a starting place | 21:21 |
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| scuttlemonkey | FoXMaN: large orgs have it in production | 21:22 |
| dolphm | baffle: thanks! | 21:22 |
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| scuttlemonkey | http://www.inktank.com/customers/ | 21:23 |
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| FoXMaN | scuttlemonkey: that's a good point | 21:29 |
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| FoXMaN | scuttlemonkey: how many employees work for inktank ? | 21:29 |
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| puck | baffle: I'm working with xavpaice and dealing with the OCP sourcing, happy to put you in touch with the guys I'm working with. | 21:31 |
| puck | Where are you located? | 21:31 |
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| baffle | puck: Oslo, Norway. | 21:31 |
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| baffle | puck: So shipping sucks. :) | 21:32 |
| PEPPERONIE | FoXMaN: there's a good number | 21:32 |
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| xavpaice | baffle: http://www.infrx.com/configuration/ocp-starter-kit | 21:34 |
| xavpaice | thanks puck! | 21:34 |
| FoXMaN | what is OCP? | 21:35 |
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| FoXMaN | excuse my stupid questions i come from a different world | 21:35 |
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| puck | FoXMaN: Open Compute Project | 21:36 |
| scuttlemonkey | FoXMaN: sorry, on the CentOS board meeting call atm | 21:36 |
| puck | Vanity free computing from Fackbook & Rackspace | 21:36 |
| scuttlemonkey | inktank has about 50 employees | 21:37 |
| xavpaice | Open Compute Project http://www.opencompute.org/ | 21:37 |
| puck | baffle: infrx is probably a bit far away for you, he's in Australia. | 21:37 |
| puck | I'm working with Amax. I'll send you an email address via PM | 21:37 |
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| baffle | puck/xavpaice: Thanks! | 21:38 |
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| FoXMaN | hmm so it's still daylight in the oslo now? | 21:38 |
| FoXMaN | or permanent night? | 21:39 |
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| puck | A good source for OCP info is their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/opencompute/ | 21:39 |
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| baffle | FoXMaN: I think you're thinking about the north of norway. It's a very long country. :) | 21:40 |
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| FoXMaN | hmm do you guys (Inktank or Ceph devs) have any presentations with benchmarks, especially sequential r/w that you can share ? :) | 21:41 |
| FoXMaN | baffle: i haven't been to norway yet but i'm looking forward to go there | 21:41 |
| FoXMaN | but agreed - it's a long country ;] | 21:42 |
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| scuttlemonkey | FoXMaN: there were some great talks about performance and optimization at the latest Ceph Day in Frankfurt | 21:44 |
| scuttlemonkey | I haven't been able to get the videos from the session back yet, but the slides are posted | 21:45 |
| scuttlemonkey | http://www.inktank.com/cephdays/frankfurt/ | 21:45 |
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| near77 | hi | 21:45 |
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| scuttlemonkey | Dieter Kasper's talk especially had some pretty graphs and such | 21:45 |
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| near77 | i had an issue with the amis folder | 21:46 |
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| FoXMaN | scuttlemonkey: thanks ! | 21:59 |
| scuttlemonkey | sure thing | 21:59 |
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| PEPPERONIE | Hi all, I'm having some auth problems with nova/neutron | 23:13 |
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| PEPPERONIE | my issue looks a lot like this: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/7845/why-does-keystone-not-authenticate-my-neutron-server/ | 23:13 |
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| PEPPERONIE | but I'm still getting the error after reconciling the passwords and settings... | 23:13 |
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