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| mrlase | is anyone with creating a NAT in an instance that is in the same subnet as the instances that are supposed to be going through the nat? | 00:11 |
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| occamshatchet | I am confused by the network_manager=nova.network.manager.VlanManager option that specifies VLAN mode, can this be used for a public network or are nova networks always supposed to be private? | 03:02 |
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| occamshatchet | I would really like to put instances directly in a vlan without using neutron. | 03:02 |
| occamshatchet | But maybe this is not possible. | 03:02 |
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| sputnik13 | anyone using gluster with openstack? | 03:55 |
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| cleverfoo | hey folks I have a very strange problem I wanted to run by everyone | 04:26 |
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| cleverfoo | on my havana deployment (ubuntu cloud archive) whenever an instance snapshot is created, everything seems to work but at the very end the snapshot is deleted | 04:26 |
| cleverfoo | pure evil I tell you | 04:27 |
| cleverfoo | no real errors | 04:27 |
| cleverfoo | we get a glance.registry.client.v1.client [cc4af634-780e-44a9-b01d-98e8006b6b72 b2cce8cfba1b4040a5b9324ff73f9c0b b166027658ad441d8baee6ec8f37f853] Registry client request PUT /images/5cd518da-10ad-416c-9ace-4d61b9c6b13b raised ServerError | 04:27 |
| cleverfoo | but no indication to what gives | 04:27 |
| cleverfoo | has anyone seem anything like this in the past? | 04:27 |
| cleverfoo | right now instance snapshot (and image uploads) is quite broken | 04:28 |
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| pdevine | is the preferred method for removing a hypervisor from your cloud really by deleting it from a table in mysql? | 05:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it should disappear after it hasn't checked in with the controller for a while | 05:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | is there still stuff in the db about it? probably | 05:24 |
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| pdevine | Sam-I-Am: it stays there for quite a while | 05:52 |
| pdevine | weeks, in this case | 05:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, odd | 05:52 |
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| screwgoth | Hello World !!! I'm trying to install OpenStack on 2 nodes, one for Controller/Neutron o VM and one for Compute. Does that make sense ? | 05:53 |
| pdevine | Sam-I-Am: do yours disappear if a nova-compute node is down? | 05:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pdevine: well, the system knows the node is down or gone, but the entry may still be in the DB | 05:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | screwgoth: should work | 05:54 |
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| screwgoth | @Sam-I-Am: Thanks. But will I be able to manage with a single NIC on the Compute node, cuz…. it's not really a Server … just an unused Desktop with 4 GB RAM and 500GN HDD | 05:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can make it work with a single NIC | 05:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RDO pretty much does that out of the box | 05:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | its not pretty to debug if it breaks, but it works | 05:57 |
| pdevine | Sam-I-Am: yes, the service knows it's down | 05:57 |
| screwgoth | @Sam-I-Am: Good. I was gonna do it anyway. Great to have an approval ;-). Thanks again … | 05:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 05:57 |
| pdevine | although figuring that out through the python API was totally jenky | 05:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, only suggestion is asking on the mailing list... some devs probably look at it | 05:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | if there is a valid concern | 05:59 |
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| sviesusisalus | hello. why does it sometimes throws me an error when booting instance: cloud-init-nonet gave up waiting for a network device. ? | 06:04 |
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| sviesusisalus | it happens only when i create new networks and routers | 06:05 |
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| sviesusisalus | but after some time it goes successfuly | 06:06 |
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| vks | hi | 07:09 |
| vks | anybody who has work with security-group? | 07:10 |
| sviesusisalus | hi. just ask question | 07:10 |
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| linuxbaby | hi guyz.. i just installed icehouse in ubuntu and eveything works fine.. but i am not able to get horizon working properly | 07:23 |
| linuxbaby | 500 internal error in http://ip/horizon | 07:23 |
| linuxbaby | and in apache error_log .. i see this | 07:23 |
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| linuxbaby | [crit] [client 10.1.192.96] configuration error: couldn't perform authentication. AuthType not set!: /horizon | 07:23 |
| linuxbaby | any idea or pointers.. | 07:23 |
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| linuxbaby | anyone has a working horizon done in Ubuntu Icehouse | 07:51 |
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| aswadrangnekar | Hi | 11:06 |
| aswadrangnekar | i was trying to debug nova rpc using rabbit, but i am unable to see the messages in compute channel using rabbitmqctl, any pointers to check in rabbit conf? | 11:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | aswadrangnekar, AFAIK rabbitmqctl does not give ability to see messages in channels. There is Management Plugin for RabbiqMQ that gives almost whole control under RabbitMQ. You can see messages in queues, or even redirect them in 'debug' queues where messages may be analyzed | 11:15 |
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| sergmelikyan | aswadrangnekar, https://www.rabbitmq.com/management.html | 11:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | The management plugin is included in the RabbitMQ distribution and may be enabled by simple command: rabbitmq-plugins enable rabbitmq_management | 11:17 |
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| sergmelikyan | After enabling, you can access web-ui via http://server-name:15672/ | 11:17 |
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| sld | Does anyone happen to know a way to force updates to available resources if it is WAY wrong? (I see this happen a lot where it shows wrong info... this cache isn't getting updated or something.) | 11:31 |
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| musicmatze | Hi. I'm currenlty working through the tutorial on http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-controller.html, but I cannot install openstack-nova, yum throws "http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-havana/epel-6/repodata/e5b6815051acc4b9ee11fe524a4cddc49e11edee25185e6dd7b5baf1c606a020-filelists.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found" - Can you tell | 12:37 |
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| rkeene | I'm having an issue where OpenStack picks a compute node to run an instance on, but never actually starts running it | 12:38 |
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| musicmatze | "yum clean metadata && yum clean dbcache && yum makecache" did the trick. | 12:41 |
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| rohitk | Hi folks, has anyone has any problems using MySql/Galera with Openstack? | 13:08 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, PING | 13:24 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, sorry for the caps :) | 13:25 |
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| eafonichev | hi guys! is that true that nova-compute doesn't publish resource usage updates immediately just after instance deleting? so in the worst case scheduler will see updated usage info in 60 sec? havana, if it matters | 13:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | linuxbaby: hi... making breakfast | 13:38 |
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| tomixxx3 | hi, what should i enter in the line "OS_AUTH_URL": http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/cli_openrc.html | 13:40 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, we worked together on a icehouse installation of ubuntu 2 days back.. you helped me with the ml2 configuration | 13:40 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, when you are done.. let me know if you had to tweak something on Horizon to make it work.. i am getting an 500 internal error with following error in apache error.log | 13:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbaby: yeah i remember now | 13:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | were those the ubuntu packages? | 13:41 |
| linuxbaby | [crit] [client xx.xx.xx.xx] configuration error: couldn't perform authentication. AuthType not set!: /horizon | 13:42 |
| linuxbaby | [error] [client xx.xx.xx.xx] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico | 13:42 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, yes.. the ubuntu one from | 13:42 |
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| linuxbaby | http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cloud-archive/icehouse-staging/ubuntu | 13:42 |
| linuxbaby | i have opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/sunnyvale/+bug/1285586 | 13:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you updated/upgraded lately? | 13:42 |
| linuxbaby | but wanted to re-chek it you Sam-I-Am | 13:42 |
| tomixxx3 | ive tried to execute "nova image-list" and the response was "ERROR: you must provide a username via either --os_username or env[OS_USERNAME]" | 13:43 |
| linuxbaby | hmm.. yes.. this is a new installation .. in my previous one .. i did not use horizon .. i am CLI fan :) | 13:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | sunnyvale? | 13:43 |
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| linuxbaby | oops.. thats a private bugzilla channel | 13:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbaby: as of last week, horizon was broken in that repo | 13:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | linuxbaby: supposedly its fixed now | 13:43 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, hmm.. | 13:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that is not the same error i got (mine was a django version problem) | 13:44 |
| linuxbaby | tomixxx3, you need to source a creds file | 13:44 |
| tomixxx3 | linuxbaby: k | 13:44 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, i know.. the 1.5 compatabilty issue .. its not working for me | 13:44 |
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| linuxbaby | i tried a pip install to replce 1.6 with 1.5 | 13:44 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, with django issue .. we get a module not found error.. right | 13:45 |
| linuxbaby | this one is weird for me .. | 13:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, or it calls something that no longer exists | 13:45 |
| linuxbaby | google not helpfule here :) | 13:45 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, right.. | 13:45 |
| linuxbaby | tomixxx3, creds files will have that env vairable exported to run CLI commands | 13:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent gotten any further with horizon | 13:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | when it broke i moved on to other stuff in the meantime | 13:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | may try it again today | 13:46 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, okies.. so you have a working horizon with django 1.5 and change in offline compression | 13:47 |
| linuxbaby | right? | 13:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have zero working horizon on icehouse | 13:47 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, this may be even a packaging issue with deb packages.. | 13:47 |
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| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, oh okies.. we are in same boat :) | 13:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | there were a couple of issues with horizon due to packaging... i still need to see if any of them are fixed | 13:48 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, okies.. | 13:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most of the problems seem related to getting icehouse, which will release on 14.04, working on 12.04 | 13:49 |
| linuxbaby | anyone from this list has a working Horizon in Icehouse with RDO | 13:49 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, okies | 13:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm also working on an rdo install... not there yet | 13:49 |
| linuxbaby | Sam-I-Am, okies.. | 13:49 |
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| larsks | Hi all: I'm going to be doing a hangout at 10AM Eastern on using packstack w/ RDO to set up a multinode openstack environment. Details at: http://openstack.redhat.com/Hangouts | 14:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hi larsks | 14:09 |
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| larsks | Morning! | 14:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hows things? | 14:21 |
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| tomixxx3 | i have passed my credentials to one of my cloud nodes , then i tried to use the api command "nova image-list" but i got the following answer: "ERROR: Malformed request url (HTTP 400)" | 14:36 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3: try "nova --debug image-list" to get more details about the error | 14:39 |
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| tomixxx3 | gmi: ok | 14:40 |
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| tomixxx3 | gmi: debug output says: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7005345/ | 14:41 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3: check "/var/log/glance/api.log" for related errors | 14:43 |
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| tomixxx3 | i have no glance | 14:44 |
| tomixxx3 | do i need glance? | 14:44 |
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| linuxbaby | tomixxx3, yes.. glance provides the VM image .. | 14:45 |
| linuxbaby | tomixxx3, first you need to install glance and your 'glance image-list' command should work | 14:45 |
| tomixxx3 | btw, i have no "nova-volume" node. is this maybe the reasons? | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova-volume is ancient | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | what version of openstack are you using? | 14:46 |
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| tomixxx3 | hmm, when i execute "juju status" i can see "glance" running: agent-state: "started" | 14:47 |
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| tomixxx3 | Sam-I-Am: "nova-manage version list" tells me "2012.1.4-dev (2012.1.4-LOCALBRANCH:LOCALREVISION)" | 14:49 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:sorry, the error points to nova.api so check that log first | 14:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tomixxx3: wow, that's ancient | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tomixxx3: you are not using the cloud archive repos | 14:50 |
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| tomixxx3 | ohhhhh :( | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | might explain why things are all breaking | 14:51 |
| tomixxx3 | i just followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure and have ubuntu lts 12.04.3 as a server | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, thats old | 14:51 |
| tomixxx3 | :( | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | use the openstack install guide... docs.openstack.org | 14:51 |
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| tomixxx3 | and what about MAAS? | 14:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | maas? | 14:53 |
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| tomixxx3 | yeah, in the installation guide above, maas is mentioned which abstracts the hardware below the cloud | 14:54 |
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| tomixxx3 | so, i have installed maas + openstack so far | 14:54 |
| tomixxx3 | metal as a service | 14:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack supports bare metal now, so i'm not sure how that all translates to modern versions | 14:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if what you mean by maas is deploying instances on bare metal boxes using openstack | 14:56 |
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| tomixxx3 | Sam-I-Am: yes, i guess | 14:59 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:those instructions you followed seem pretty old as they mention nova-volume which was replaced by Cinder a few Openstack releases ago, even though it looks like that page was recently updated by roadmr (https://launchpad.net/~roadmr) | 15:00 |
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| tomixxx3 | k, so your recommendation is that i uninstall current maas and openstack deployment, and reinstall it from scratch following the guide on http://docs.openstack.org ? | 15:00 |
| gmi | tomixxx3: I would just ping Daniel Manrique to see if the instructions provided by Ubuntu on that page have been tested recently so you don't waste your time | 15:01 |
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| tomixxx3 | gmi: it took me a lot of time to install maas + juju + openstack | 15:02 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:I know, but it will take even longer to debug a broken Openstack two years old | 15:03 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:I would just fresh install Ubuntu 12.04 and follow the official guide and learn how the different pieces work together | 15:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | larsks: working here | 15:05 |
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| rbowen | larsks is doing a multi-node deployment of OpenStack on CentOS at https://plus.google.com/events/cm9ff549vmsim737lj7hopk4gao (Google Hangout) if folks are interested in following along. Thanks. | 15:07 |
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| tomixxx3 | gmi: i guess you are right... better to restart now instead of wasting additional time to get workarounds for the basic deployment based on this old maas+juju+openstack guide... | 15:13 |
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| tomixxx3 | the most recent install guide is this: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ right? | 15:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 15:18 |
| tomixxx3 | ty | 15:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's also 'trunk' but its for icehouse which isnt released yet | 15:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | more of a work in progress | 15:19 |
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| tomixxx3 | is there a recommended minimum number of nodes for the openstack cloud? | 15:19 |
| tomixxx3 | or an absolute minimum? | 15:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can do everything on one node if you want | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | but its not very flexible | 15:20 |
| tomixxx3 | k | 15:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | obviously bare metal wont work that way | 15:20 |
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| tomixxx3 | ok, another question: to abstract the hardware, i have used MAAS in previous deployment. if i follow the new guide, what do i have to "install" on the other nodes except the server? | 15:23 |
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| tomixxx3 | or in other words: do my cloud nodes also need a ubuntu server 12.04.3 lts installation? | 15:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've never done bare metal... theres some docs about it somewhere | 15:26 |
| tomixxx3 | ok, installation guide says: "We strongly recommend that you install a 64-bit operating system on your compute nodes." | 15:27 |
| tomixxx3 | so i will simply install ubuntu server 12.04.3 lts on all nodes | 15:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it also doesnt cover bare metal | 15:27 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:yes, you need to install Ubuntu 12.04 as base OS on all your Openstack nodes | 15:27 |
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| tomixxx3 | gmi: 12.03.3 also ok? | 15:30 |
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| tomixxx3 | sorry, i mean 12.04.3 | 15:30 |
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| gmi | tomixxx3:sure, the latest | 15:30 |
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| tomixxx3 | ok there is already 12.04.4 released ^^ | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | any of the 12.04 variants should work | 15:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you'll probably dist-upgrade them anyway | 15:32 |
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| tomixxx3 | "should work" ;) | 15:33 |
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| rohitk | Has anyone deployed Mysql with Galera in an OpenStack environment? I see a lot of deadlock problems during replication. | 15:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | we only speak the truth | 15:35 |
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| tomixxx3 | :-) | 15:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | larsks: awesome! | 15:39 |
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| tomixxx3 | i install ubuntu server 12.04.4 from an usb-stick now. in the window "software selection" i can chose software to install. which one should i chose? | 16:25 |
| tomixxx3 | There are: "Basic Ubuntu Server", "OpenSSH server", ..., sounds interesting: "Openstack",.... | 16:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tomixxx3: minimal | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack just installs the same old openstack packages | 16:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openssh server is also decent | 16:26 |
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| tomixxx3 | so you mean "lubuntu minimal installation" and "openssh server" both? | 16:27 |
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| tomixxx3 | i tend to select "basic ubuntu server" - everything else what i need is mentioned in the openstack-installguide it seems | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah. usually i try not to install more than i need | 16:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keep the clutter down | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | openssh server is basically minimal + ssh | 16:32 |
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| jrwren | silly tasksel | 16:32 |
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| jrwren | i sometimes wonder if tasksel does more harm than good | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 16:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rhel has something similar | 16:33 |
| jrwren | that is no excuse :) | 16:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what should it do instead? | 16:34 |
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| Gamekiller77 | good day all. Any one know if there is a RH/CentOS command to flat delete all file install via a given repo | 17:00 |
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| enarciso | Morning everyone | 17:03 |
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| djmitche | how do I reply to a comment in gerrit? | 17:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | click on the line with the comment | 17:06 |
| djmitche | it just expands/contracts | 17:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it should provide buttons to reply or reply 'done' | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | if it doesnt, make sure you're logged in | 17:07 |
| djmitche | I am | 17:07 |
| djmitche | just the last comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75480/ | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | i find review kicks me out perodically | 17:07 |
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| djmitche | huh, apparently I was logged o ut after loading the page | 17:07 |
| djmitche | grr | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | it just kicked me out to | 17:08 |
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| djmitche | ah but same effeect | 17:08 |
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| djmitche | can I only reply to in-diff comments? | 17:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 17:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can review with a "0" to reply to mainline comments | 17:09 |
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| djmitche | ah, ok | 17:09 |
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| djmitche | this is totally not worth it for a README change | 17:09 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hey Sam-I-Am did you see my question above | 17:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: yeah, i dont have an answer aside from writing a script to see which repo packages come from, then building a list | 17:17 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah doing that now | 17:18 |
| Gamekiller77 | just grep being an ass | 17:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 17:18 |
| Gamekiller77 | it truncating the package names | 17:18 |
| Gamekiller77 | as there to long | 17:18 |
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| Gamekiller77 | not sure why it setting up columns | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | awk it? | 17:19 |
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| birk | Hi all. If I shutdown or stop an instance that is active, should the RAM utilization and the Instances count in the overview panel decrease? May this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1156563) be related to this ? | 17:34 |
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| mnaser | birk: if an instance exists, it counts against your quota which i believe is used to display in the overview | 17:40 |
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| birk | mnaser: Ok. Thanks for your time | 17:42 |
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| marekruzicka | Hi, does anyone have an idea, if there are any plans to support static IPs in neutron? | 17:45 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: Technically, floating ips are already static. I assume you're asking about assignign *fixed* ips explicitly? | 17:52 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks not really | 17:53 |
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| larsks | "not really" which? There were two parts to my last message :). | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | larsks: good webcast | 17:53 |
| marekruzicka | larsks :) | 17:53 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: Thanks! I listened to it afterwards and it wasn't as bad as I was afraid it would be :) | 17:53 |
| marekruzicka | larsks by static i mean more like an manually assigned ...not handled by neutron in any way | 17:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | marekruzicka: neutron generally needs to build iptables rules | 17:54 |
| larsks | marekruzicka: In that case the answer is probably "no"? | 17:54 |
| enarciso | Hello, Has anyone seen this error before on cinder? http://pastebin.com/WjMi0UFU | 17:54 |
| larsks | Note that you *can* assign static fixed ips using neutron: | 17:54 |
| larsks | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/cli_ports.html | 17:54 |
| larsks | ...then when you boot an instance you specify a port-id instead of a net-id. | 17:55 |
| enarciso | googling yield missing "rstlib" dependencies but I just installed python-rstlib and the error persist. | 17:55 |
| marekruzicka | Sam-I-Am larsks yeah, which makes sense in most cases, as long as we do not try to interconnect two enbironments (openstack and generic one) | 17:55 |
| marekruzicka | some discussion was already going on here https://answers.launchpad.net/neutron/+question/229500 | 17:56 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: I think that using provider networks and explicit address assignment like at that link I posted you should be able to do mostly what you want...no? | 17:56 |
| marekruzicka | larsks what if you have DHCP running in external envirnment? | 17:56 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: Well, you asked about static ips, which implies no dhcp :) | 17:57 |
| marekruzicka | larsks no dhcp in openstack | 17:57 |
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| marekruzicka | not necesarilly in ext network | 17:57 |
| larsks | marekruzicka: So I don't know the answer about integrating with an environment with an external dhcp server. | 17:57 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks from openstack point of view, it would be static/manual/ you name it | 17:58 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: I disagree with the phrasing. "static" implies no dhcp, not even external. External dhcp implies that you're simply not setting *any* ip via openstack. | 17:58 |
| larsks | ...but you're still hoping to get an address assigned by the external dhcp server. | 17:58 |
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| larsks | But like I said, that's not a situation with which I have any experience right now, so all I can do is quibble about semantics. | 17:59 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks we have to get the terms right here...i get that | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | larsks: there's more to it i'm sure, but doesnt neutron support some form of 'dumb vlan' mode? | 18:01 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: Like I said, not sure :). Probably worth exploring. | 18:01 |
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| marekruzicka | Sam-I-Am larsks our problem here is, that living in an old-school (rather only OLD) enterprise env. our users are used to manage IPs themselves | 18:03 |
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| marekruzicka | antispoof protection in quantum/neutron is preventing you to set any other IP than the one assigned to you by neutron | 18:04 |
| marekruzicka | I can get rid of iptables to circumvent that | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i suspect there are implementations like this | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm just not familiar with them | 18:04 |
| larsks | I think you may be fighting the wrong battle there. That is, neutron still allows people to manage their own ip addresses...they just don't get to pick a specific *number*. | 18:05 |
| marekruzicka | :) | 18:05 |
| marekruzicka | henry ford did somethin like that in the past as well | 18:05 |
| marekruzicka | ;) | 18:05 |
| marekruzicka | pick any color as long as it is green | 18:06 |
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| marekruzicka | what i don't understand is that weird relation between port, network and the subnet | 18:07 |
| marekruzicka | solution for me would be network without subnet | 18:08 |
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| marekruzicka | but to create a port, you need a network and a fixed ip (which is de facto part of subnet) | 18:08 |
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| djmitche | does nova-network invent IP ranges? I set it up pretty simply, and it is using 192.168.122.0/24, which appears nowhere in nova.conf nor in the DB | 18:09 |
| larsks | djmitche: Nova does not invent ip ranges. That range is generally used by libvirt for the "default" network. | 18:10 |
| djmitche | ahh | 18:10 |
| larsks | ...if you have something attached to the same network device that libvirt is using, you may be getting responses from the wrong dhcp server? | 18:10 |
| djmitche | I bet it's the libvirt default | 18:10 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: So you would create a subnet with --disable-dhcp with an ip range matching your existing network. You can create ports on this subnet with explicit addresses. | 18:11 |
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| djmitche | it's really hard to find docs for network that don't either say "use devstack" or assume neutron :( | 18:11 |
| larsks | That sounds about like what you want... | 18:11 |
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| larsks | djmitche: Well, technically, nova-network was going to be deprecated Real Soon Now, although that has recently changed due to the pace at which neutron is progressing. | 18:11 |
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| larsks | ...so most of the current documentation focuses on neutron. | 18:11 |
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| marekruzicka | larks but you are still assigned an IP which you ahve to use because of anti spoof + horizon is still presenting it to the user | 18:12 |
| djmitche | larsks: yeah, and I'm doing baremetal, which neutron doesn't support | 18:13 |
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| djmitche | I can find docs on the config parameters, which basically just change _ to ' ' in the name of the config parameter | 18:13 |
| larsks | marekruzicka: you get to *pick* the ip. Isn't that what you're looking for? You're not getting assigned a random one by neutron. | 18:13 |
| djmitche | but not much about what they actuall y do | 18:13 |
| marekruzicka | larsks this is exactly how im handling it right now (+ preventing that iptables entries) but its rather inconvenient | 18:13 |
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| djmitche | what does it mean for a bridge to forward to an interface? | 18:14 |
| larsks | djmitche: I general, it means that the interface is "a member of" or "attached to" that bridge device. | 18:14 |
| larsks | There should be nova-network docs for grizzly (or even folsom) that should still be largely correct. | 18:14 |
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| larsks | marekruzicka: I guess I'm not following you. My suggestion -- as I understand it, at least -- would let you use arbitrary ip addresses without having to muck about with the neutron-managed iptables rules (because you would be assigning the addresses through neutron). | 18:15 |
| djmitche | larsks: oh, good call, thanks | 18:16 |
| marekruzicka | larsks i understand you, and it would be fine in private cloud | 18:16 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks lets try to simplify it.... | 18:16 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks clients want to be able to choose/set/change the IP from within the instance | 18:17 |
| marekruzicka | larsks you just provide them a network, all their instances are connected to it, and let them do whatever they want | 18:18 |
| marekruzicka | larsks what im talking about is plain dumb L2 network | 18:18 |
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| larsks | Ah. Well, that's just crazy talk...I mean, sure, they can't run "ifconfig" to set an address anymore, but they can still set an arbitrary address through neutron. | 18:19 |
| marekruzicka | larsks i understand your point, completely adn thats exactly the reason, why i started this talk with provider network + external dhcp server | 18:20 |
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| rkeene | djmitche, It's hard to find useful documentation for OpenStack in general | 18:21 |
| larsks | I'm going to stand by my earlier comment that you're fighting the wrong fight :). My previous job was in a university setting with traditional network management and folks who had been there for decades, and we were able to sell them on openstack because of the tremendous flexbility it would bring, even if it meant changing the way some things were done. | 18:21 |
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| larsks | rkeene: I think the docs have improved substantially over the past few months. But yeah, there are still some things that need work. They are looking for people to help out! | 18:21 |
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| rkeene | larsks, A man page for nova.conf would be a good start. | 18:21 |
| marekruzicka | larsks image this... you have an existing environment and im trying to sell you a openstack | 18:21 |
| djmitche | the docs are good - just missing the critical conceptual bits about nova-network that I need :) | 18:21 |
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| larsks | rkeene: I thought the online docs had a reasonable config reference for nova.conf. Am I mis-remembering? I guess I don't feel strongly about man page vs. web page. | 18:22 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks in 99% you are not going to shutdown everything and move it to cloud...you going to do it in steps (very sloow/small steps) | 18:22 |
| rkeene | larsks, If there were a man-page quality web page for nova.conf that would count | 18:23 |
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| djmitche | rkeene: patches accepted | 18:23 |
| rkeene | larsks, The documentation for the 864 options in nova.conf.sample is *HORRIBLE* | 18:23 |
| djmitche | I'll be sending one in for better parameter docs once I know what the params mean :) | 18:23 |
| djmitche | but be sure to only use one space after periods in your patch :) | 18:23 |
| rkeene | (Also, having a basically unstructured configuration file with 864 options is sign of a broken design, which OpenStack definitely exhibits) | 18:23 |
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| marekruzicka | larsks probably start with the dumbest posiible service you have in your environment... I need to be able to deploy openstack alog side your existing infrastructure, and kind incoroporate this first small service | 18:24 |
| * djmitche pats rkeen on the back.. get it all out | 18:24 | |
| rkeene | It's worse than libvirt, which is itself a horrible piece of crap. | 18:24 |
| larsks | rkeene: I don't know that I agree that openstack is broken in that way. I do agree that the existing config reference is a little overwhelming. | 18:25 |
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| larsks | Again, patches to fix things are up are always accepted, and I know the docs team is actively looking for more contributors. | 18:25 |
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| rkeene | I really think it's broken beyond repair. | 18:25 |
| djmitche | that's not very constructive | 18:26 |
| larsks | ...I guess I also think that calling software that folks are working hard on "a worthless piece of crap" is neither polite nor helpful. People are working hard to make it better, even if it doesn't meet your particlar criteria. | 18:26 |
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| larsks | So I think we've probably reached the point that this conversation is not going to be constructive. | 18:26 |
| rkeene | larsks, I work hard on software, and if I made something like OpenStack and noone told me it was a piece of crap that would mean noone was using it. | 18:26 |
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| marekruzicka | rkeene no point in using such soft, whatcha think? | 18:28 |
| rkeene | And I've been pretty specific in my criticism. | 18:28 |
| rkeene | marekruzicka, Indeed, but I wouldn't know that until I had used it. | 18:28 |
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| marekruzicka | rkeene well know you do... :) so it was nice to see you here | 18:29 |
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| djmitche | in general, are "private network" and "internal network" used interchangeably? | 18:37 |
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| marekruzicka | djmitche i believe it is circumstential, but I would say yes | 18:41 |
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| larsks | djmitche: Yes. Both are a little vague, though. Consider "tenant network" vs. "external network" instead :) | 18:42 |
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| larsks | Because "internal" can mean so many things (is it a tenant network? The network you use for admin access to your hosts? Something else?) | 18:42 |
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| djmitche | I'm trying to correlate with "All machines must have a public and internal network interface" | 18:43 |
| djmitche | so public=external | 18:43 |
| djmitche | internal=private=tenant | 18:43 |
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| larsks | Yeah. | 18:43 |
| djmitche | tx | 18:43 |
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| virmitio | Could someone point me toward documentation for creating Nova availability zones and assigning hypervisors to specific zones under Havana? | 19:03 |
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| djmitche | virmitio: it's linked to aggregates | 19:04 |
| djmitche | http://russellbryantnet.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/availability-zones-and-host-aggregates-in-openstack-compute-nova/ | 19:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | just about to say that but can havana support many Hypervisors not at one point i was told it would not | 19:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | thought at one point* | 19:05 |
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| djmitche | you mean different *types* of hypervisors? | 19:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | yes | 19:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | KVM and EXSi | 19:06 |
| djmitche | I'm led to believe it can, but I'm not sure how | 19:06 |
| djmitche | I've determined that those are *not* segregated by AZs | 19:06 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah i think you have to have different nova-ctrl nodes | 19:06 |
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| djmitche | (I'm going to want to do a hybrid of baremetal and KVM) | 19:06 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ok cool | 19:06 |
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| virmitio | djmitche: based on that article, I'm given the impression that aggregates and availability zones, while often related, are not the same thing. can you help clarify? or point me to documentation that will? | 19:09 |
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| djmitche | that's the best docs I've found | 19:11 |
| djmitche | the last bit differentiates them pretty well | 19:11 |
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| djmitche | it looks like between grizzly and havana, fixed-range moved from a nova config option to something in the DB (it's now specified with network-create) | 19:16 |
| djmitche | how are those linked to anything else - nodes, instances, flavors, etc.? | 19:17 |
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| larsks | djmitche: Looking at http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html, it looks like networks created with network-create are automatically associated with instances booted by that tenant. | 19:22 |
| larsks | ...at least, when there's only a single network. | 19:22 |
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| larsks | (These docs appear to cover use nova-network with Havana) | 19:23 |
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| djmitche | hm | 19:23 |
| djmitche | which tenant? | 19:23 |
| larsks | Hmmm, that example is using FlatDHCPManager, so *any* tenant. | 19:24 |
| djmitche | so maybe it just considers all nets a big pool of available IPs? | 19:24 |
| larsks | ...I haven't actually used nova networking with anything other than FlatDHCPManager (and that was a long time ago), so I'm not sure how other models behave. | 19:24 |
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| djmitche | that's going to be unfortunate if it spawns an isntance on a compute node that doesn't have access to that network | 19:24 |
| djmitche | I'm using FlatDHCPManager, so that should be fine | 19:25 |
| djmitche | unless .. does that only support one network, systemwide? | 19:25 |
| larsks | djmitche: I think that openstack expects all networks to be available from all compute nodes. | 19:25 |
| djmitche | fff | 19:25 |
| djmitche | well, hopefully I can get it working with one network | 19:25 |
| djmitche | but that's going to make deployment impossible | 19:26 |
| djmitche | still, one problem at a time | 19:26 |
| larsks | djmitche: ...and I'm not sure if flatdhcpmanager means "one network, systemwide" or "a network is shared by all tenants, but there may be more than one". | 19:26 |
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| djmitche | if it's the second one, there'd be some way to assocaite networks with something else, though | 19:27 |
| djmitche | I'll only ever have one tenant | 19:27 |
| djmitche | but multiple types of hardware in isolated networks | 19:28 |
| larsks | djmitche: I don't know if that necessarily follows (maybe you have "network for access to database server" and "network for access to some other internal service", but they're both going to be available to all tenants on all compute hosts) | 19:28 |
| larsks | For multiple types of hardware, I wonder if some sort of availability zone/host aggregate thing might help. | 19:28 |
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| larsks | Don't know for sure. | 19:28 |
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| djmitche | well like I said, one problem at a time :) | 19:28 |
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| enarciso | Hello everyone. Sorry to re-ask my question again. as I am stumped. I'm unable to create a volume using cinder and get the an error. This is what shows up in cinder-scheduler.log: http://pastebin.com/WjMi0UFU Thank you | 19:40 |
| enarciso | "SchedulerHostFilterNotFound: Scheduler Host Filter AvailabilityZoneFilter, CapacityFilter, CapabilitiesFilter could not be found." | 19:41 |
| enarciso | has anyone run/stumbled into this error before? It's on cinder-scheduler 1:2013.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 19:42 |
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| enarciso | I'm running cinder-api & -scheduler on the controlnode while cinder-volume is running on a different node | 19:42 |
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| mutex | so I just configured my havana deployment for LDAP, and it mostly works... however | 19:46 |
| mutex | when I attempt to edit projects or users from horizon I get the redbox "Error has occured" | 19:47 |
| mutex | all my operations with keystone CLI work fine for modifying tenants/users | 19:47 |
| mutex | been looking through the logs trying to figure out what is going on but I am coming up empty | 19:47 |
| mutex | anyone have ideas on what could be wrong or where I should keep looking ? | 19:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | has any one here played with the LBaaS setup yet. I have not search to much for doc but from what i have seen it limited at this point | 19:54 |
| PEPPERONIE | mutex: you should see something on your LDAP server at least | 19:54 |
| PEPPERONIE | even if keystone isn't throwing exceptions | 19:54 |
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| PEPPERONIE | mutex: did you check /var/log/httpd/ ? | 19:55 |
| PEPPERONIE | Technically horizon errors ARE apache errors, if you're using mod_wsgi | 19:55 |
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| djmitche | in nova network-create, what's teh difference between --fixed-cidr and --fixed-range-v4? | 20:16 |
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| djmitche | I don't see --fixed-cidr in the tests, and its value (in args.fixed_cidr) never seems to be used.. | 20:17 |
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| mutex | ah ha | 20:27 |
| mutex | found it | 20:27 |
| mutex | going to go track down the code, but thought I would post here as well | 20:28 |
| mutex | http://paste.openstack.org/show/70356/ | 20:28 |
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| djmitche | from nova/network/manager.py:_create_fixed_ips, it looks like --fixed-cidr specifies the usable set of IPs, while --fixed-range-v4 specifies the network netmask? | 20:28 |
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| mutex | looks like keystone doesn't handle the LDAP query having account ids but not names well | 20:32 |
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| KataiKou | is there any sort of "easy installer" for openstack for SLES 11 systems? | 20:39 |
| djmitche | does devstack work there? | 20:39 |
| KataiKou | I'm having a huge ton of trouble installing openstack (Havana) | 20:39 |
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| KataiKou | I have no idea if devstack works, though I would prefer to have a production version rather than devstack | 20:40 |
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| KataiKou | I think the main issue I'm having right now is that the install guide for Havana keeps linking me to the IceHouse documentation | 20:40 |
| KataiKou | it's bizzare | 20:40 |
| djmitche | that's not among the 99 problems I have :) | 20:40 |
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| HT_Sergio | Hey all. I get a stack trace when trying to create a glanceclient object in python | 20:44 |
| HT_Sergio | the CLI works fine and I can't find any mistakes in the endpoints, syntax, or anything | 20:44 |
| HT_Sergio | http://paste.openstack.org/show/70361/ | 20:44 |
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| HT_Sergio | has anyone seen this stack trace before? | 20:45 |
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| djmitche | HT_Sergio: what is glance_endpoint? that's giving you a 404 | 20:47 |
| djmitche | so it's probably wrong somehow | 20:47 |
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| HT_Sergio | u'http://10.35.1.200:9292/v2/c41733d450a24a57a401ef919d75b8eb' | 20:48 |
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| HT_Sergio | using the glance CLI with --debug, I see it hits: http://10.35.1.200:9292/v2/c41733d450a24a57a401ef919d75b8eb/v1/images/detail?sort_key=name&sort_dir=asc&limit=20 | 20:49 |
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| djmitche | /v2/ and /v1/, huh | 20:50 |
| djmitche | I assume that's right, just weird | 20:50 |
| djmitche | anyway, I'm already beyond my familiarity | 20:50 |
| HT_Sergio | lol I didn't notice it before this little adventure either | 20:50 |
| HT_Sergio | that's alright, thanks | 20:50 |
| HT_Sergio | I never come in here asking easy questions :p | 20:51 |
| djmitche | seems nobody does | 20:51 |
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| HT_Sergio | djmitche: figured it out in case anyone else asks about this | 20:59 |
| djmitche | oh? | 21:00 |
| HT_Sergio | glanceclient version 0.12.0 (latest with python `pip install`) must have some issue because I can't even create an instance of it | 21:00 |
| HT_Sergio | glanceclient version 0.11.0 (latest in ubuntu packages and recently replaced in pip) seems to work | 21:01 |
| HT_Sergio | that weird /v2 and /v1 thing seems to be the issue | 21:01 |
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| djmitche | huh | 21:02 |
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| djmitche | maybe it's icehouse | 21:02 |
| djmitche | and you're running havana? | 21:02 |
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| HT_Sergio | yeah | 21:02 |
| HT_Sergio | I figured it out | 21:02 |
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| HT_Sergio | my entry in keystone contained /v1/<tenant> | 21:03 |
| djmitche | so in the battle of contradictory docs, those which say "nova will create bridge interfaces" lose, and those which say "you must pre-create the bridge interface" win | 21:03 |
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| djmitche | "NetworkNotCreated: bridge is required to create a network" | 21:04 |
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| djmitche | wait, no, that's .. ugh | 21:04 |
| djmitche | a bug | 21:04 |
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| djmitche | the docstrings in teh source are actually pretty helpful | 21:15 |
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| djmitche | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76971/ | 21:20 |
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| djmitche | third patch so far, and I haven't even gotten OS to run yet | 21:20 |
| djmitche | OSS++ :) | 21:20 |
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| larsks | djmitche: Yay, patches! :) | 21:29 |
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| djmitche | I like to practice what I preach, eh? | 21:30 |
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| gpza | Anyone know what could cause neutron to intermittently fail? Like I can create a bunch of instances fine, and then I'll try to create a few more and they don't get an address from dhcp. if I tcpdump while I do it, I can see that the dhcp requests are never reaching the network node. (Using gre tunnels). The logs don't seem to reveal anything | 21:38 |
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| djmitche | the only way to remove hypervisors is in the DB, right? | 21:55 |
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| djmitche | or just set deleted=1 | 21:56 |
| djmitche | weird that there's no command for that - any particular reason? | 21:56 |
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| larsks | djmitche: Hmmm...you can disable the compute service on the host via nova-manage service... | 22:02 |
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| djmitche | right, I have hosts that are no longer hypervisors but are still listed | 22:05 |
| djmitche | setting deleted=1 worked | 22:05 |
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| larsks | Yeah, I was poking around the cli a bit, but I guess you're right. | 22:05 |
| larsks | Spiffy. | 22:05 |
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| djmitche | I probably should keep trying to get this working rather than fix that :) | 22:06 |
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| -enarciso- Update regarding my cinder volume problem in case someone else run into this issue. | 22:32 | |
| enarciso | so I was running into this issue with my cinder-scheduler: http://pastebin.com/WjMi0UFU | 22:33 |
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| enarciso | this is using: cinder-scheduler 1:2013.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 22:33 |
| enarciso | turns out it was due to pbr | 22:34 |
| enarciso | ERROR stevedore.extension [-] Could not load 'CapacityWeigher': (pbr 0.6 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('pbr>=0.5,<0.6')) | 22:34 |
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| enarciso | pip's latest pbr is 0.6 | 22:34 |
| enarciso | but ubuntu (12.04.04 LTS) package have python-pbr 0.5.21 available | 22:35 |
| enarciso | removing pbr 0.6 fixes the problem. | 22:35 |
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| djmitche | I'm confused by the fact that the metadata API runs on port 8775, but clients request it on 169.254.169.254:80 | 22:45 |
| djmitche | what should be listening on :80? | 22:45 |
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| larsks | djmitche: access is typically handled by a NAT rule somewhere. | 22:46 |
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| PEPPERONIE | djmitche: to my understanding there's some NAT magic | 22:46 |
| PEPPERONIE | yes ^ | 22:46 |
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| larsks | Try 'iptables -t nat -S' wherever you're running the metadata service. | 22:47 |
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| djmitche | what sets that up? | 22:49 |
| larsks | djmitche: Nova. | 22:49 |
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| * larsks heads to dinner. | 22:51 | |
| djmitche | ah, and sends it to metadata_host | 22:51 |
| djmitche | tahnks | 22:51 |
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| djmitche | success .. and another docs patch :) | 22:53 |
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| KataiKou | has anyone ever seen this error when setting up the nova database? | 23:13 |
| KataiKou | Initializing the nova database, please wait... chown: invalid spec: `nova:' Could not read /etc/nova/nova.conf. Re-running with sudo | 23:13 |
| djmitche | looks like the group id isn't specified? | 23:14 |
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| KataiKou | how/where do I specify that? | 23:14 |
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| djmitche | dunno, maybe in nova.conf? | 23:16 |
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| gpza | hmm. I kind of solved my problem, but I'm a little confused by this | 23:22 |
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| gpza | Sometimes, iptables was blocking the GRE packets encapsulating the dhcp requests | 23:23 |
| gpza | and sometimes, it was not | 23:23 |
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| gpza | adding a rule to accept everything fixed it | 23:23 |
| gpza | but why was it only blocking sometimes? | 23:23 |
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| gpza | here's an example from tcpdump http://pastebin.com/M6feQaaZ | 23:25 |
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| KataiKou | openstack-db --init --service nova --password | 23:27 |
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| KataiKou | chown: invalid spec: `nova:' | 23:27 |
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| KataiKou | Could not read /etc/nova/nova.conf. | 23:27 |
| KataiKou | any idea why I might be getting this error? | 23:27 |
| zzelle | Kataikou, i might use nova/root account ... sudo (-u nova) openstack-db ... | 23:29 |
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| KataiKou | i'm using the root account to run the command | 23:30 |
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| KataiKou | also, if it's having trouble reading the file now, wouldn't that cause problems with the service later? | 23:30 |
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| KataiKou | i don't think the service runs with root authority | 23:31 |
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| KataiKou | sudo -u openstack-nova /usr/bin/openstack-db --drop --service nova | 23:34 |
| KataiKou | grep: /etc/nova/nova.conf: Permission denied | 23:34 |
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| KataiKou | oops, wrong command to sudo | 23:35 |
| KataiKou | same error, though | 23:36 |
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| KataiKou | service openstack-nova-api start Checking for Nova API DB MigrationsCould not read /etc/nova/nova.conf. | 23:45 |
| KataiKou | anyone know why nova doesn't seem to have permission to read nova.conf? | 23:45 |
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