Wednesday, 2014-02-12

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hescoWhat is indicated as required to resolve this keystone connectivity issue: "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'has_service_catalog'" -- https://gist.github.com/hesco/671c9203d3b7db108f2f What step am I missing here please?00:30
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kitpheyo. i just created a router for a project.  but, both infs (internal and external) are DOWN.  is this because the networks don't belong to the project too?00:47
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cybojanekHi. The Telemetry (Ceilometer) link is broken on this page: http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/01:15
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clarkbcybojanek: thanks, I will try to pass that to wherever it needs to go01:16
cybojanekclarkb: Thanks01:16
EmmEffcan anybody answer a question about outbound connectivity in a ML2 + GRE + openvswitch setup?01:17
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EmmEffor maybe specifically, how should the external network interface on a compute node be configured?01:18
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Sam-I-AmEmmEff: like... br-ex?01:18
EmmEffyeah, how is that supposed to look?01:18
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Sam-I-Ambr-ex has a port on the physical interface on your external network01:19
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Sam-I-Amthe underlying interface doesnt need an IP on that network, it just needs to be on the same L201:19
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EmmEffdoes that mean it should be configured the same on the compute as it is on the controller/network node?01:20
Sam-I-Ambr-ex should only be on the network node, or something functioning as the network node01:20
EmmEffdoes the compute node need an interface on the public network then?01:21
Sam-I-Amno01:21
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clarkbcybojanek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1279140 openstack-org is apparently where those bugs go01:21
Sam-I-Amtypically it only has interfaces on the mgmt and integration/data networks01:21
cybojanekclarkb: noted!01:21
EmmEffI have a mgmt/integration/data network and a public interface only01:21
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Sam-I-Amso, an all-in-one style box?01:22
EmmEffi'm so confused... it's a 4 node (1 controller/network node + 3 compute nodes)01:22
Sam-I-Ambut all on the same network?01:23
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EmmEffeach machine has 2 nics - public and private01:23
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EmmEffall machines in the cluster are on both networks01:23
Sam-I-Amwhatever interface you want to be br-ex, if it has an IP, move that IP to br-ex01:23
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Sam-I-Amit would be more ideal of your controller/network node had 3 interfaces, but this can still work01:24
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EmmEffso I need to configure br-ex no the compute nodes then?01:24
Sam-I-Amno01:25
Sam-I-Amits only on the network node that has external connectivity01:25
Sam-I-Amhere's what i'd do...01:25
Sam-I-Amif you only have 2 nics everywhere01:25
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Sam-I-Ambind br-ex to whatever provides external access on the compute/controller node, then set the other interface as vm tunnel traffic... and also have one interface from each compute node on that network01:26
Sam-I-Amthe other interface on the compute nodes can be on your external network, but purely for management purposes only01:26
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Sam-I-Ambasically how nova talks to keystone, etc01:27
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EmmEffi think this is what I now have01:27
EmmEff(I just reconfigured)01:27
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EmmEffi guess the problem I had (and seemingly still have) is that there is no traffic flowing from the instances to the controller/network node01:30
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EmmEfffor example, a ping request from an instance is seen on the controller, but there is never a reply01:30
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Sam-I-Amis it going through the gre tunnel?01:32
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EmmEfflemme do a another quick test01:34
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EmmEffok, pings to my gateway IP from the instance are getting to the controller/network node but no replies are passed back01:41
EmmEffpings to 8.8.8.8 aren't even seen on the controller/network node01:42
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Sam-I-Amis there a default route set in the instance?01:42
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EmmEffdefault route is the gateway of the private network01:43
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EmmEff(private network is 10.5.5.0/24, gateway is 10.5.5.1)01:43
Sam-I-Amyeah01:44
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EmmEffi can ping 10.5.5.1 from the instance01:44
Sam-I-Amso 8.8.8.8 should route out that way01:44
Sam-I-Amand the other end of that tunnel should be on your cont/net node01:44
Sam-I-Amyou could do a tcpdump on the compute node on the data network interface to see whats going on there01:44
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EmmEff20:46:11.720172 IP openstack-compute-01 > openstack-mgmt.local: GREv0, key=0x1, length 106: IP 10.5.5.2 > 8.8.8.8: ICMP echo request, id 19457, seq 6, length 6401:46
EmmEff20:47:00.725451 IP openstack-mgmt.local > openstack-compute-01: GREv0, key=0x1, length 134: IP 172.20.128.15 > 10.5.5.2: ICMP host 8.8.8.8 unreachable, length 9201:47
EmmEff172.20.128.15 is the floating ip associated with the instance that has the private IP 10.5.5.201:47
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Sam-I-Amso it can't seem to reach 8.8.8.801:47
EmmEff172.20.0.0/16 is our routed network01:47
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Sam-I-Amon the cont/net node, from the qrouter namespace assoc with that network, can you ping the 'real' gateway or 8.8.8.8?01:48
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EmmEffno01:49
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Sam-I-Ami suspect br-ex is broken01:49
Sam-I-Amcan you tcpdump on that to see if anything makes it to your 'real' gw or 8.8.8.8?01:49
Sam-I-Amis the real gw on that network 172.20.128.1 or something?01:50
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EmmEffit's 172.20.0.101:50
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Sam-I-Amoh, thats a... huge network01:51
EmmEffyeah, it's a /1601:51
Sam-I-Amscary01:51
EmmEffI don't do the IT here :)01:51
EmmEffI'm just a developer01:51
Sam-I-Amanyway, can you ping 172.20.0.1 from that namespace?01:51
EmmEffI cannot01:51
Sam-I-Amtime to figure out why01:52
Sam-I-Amsomeone needs to thwack your IT folks for using a /1601:52
Sam-I-Amthats not going to end well in production01:52
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EmmEffI hear ya01:52
Sam-I-Ami'd tcpdump the underlying interface for br-ex to see if anything is getting out from that qrouter ns01:52
Sam-I-Amyou know how to do stuff from within the ns, right?01:53
EmmEffyes01:53
Sam-I-Amcoo01:53
Sam-I-Ami'm going to make dinner, back in a bit01:53
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EmmEffthanks01:53
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Sam-I-Amso?02:10
dsockwel1oh man, /16s02:11
dsockwel1client had 20 one time02:11
dsockwel1yes, 1.3 million IPs laid out for probably 2000 devices02:11
EmmEffi do not see any traffic passing to the br-ex interface02:11
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Sam-I-Amis it making it into the netns?02:12
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EmmEffI don't think so... here's what I'm running: ip netns exec qrouter-2f454015-48a6-4c28-930e-9d6826ed03d6 tcpdump02:13
EmmEffqrouterXXXXX is returned in the output of "ip nets"02:13
EmmEffnetns02:13
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Sam-I-Amwhich interface are you tcpdumping within the ns?02:14
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EmmEffshould it be the 10.5.5.0 interface (private network) or the 172.20.0.0/16 side?02:15
EmmEffI do not see traffic on either02:16
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Sam-I-Am128.15 was somehow replying before, wasnt it?02:17
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EmmEffI can ping that with "ip netns exec qrouterXXXX ..."02:17
EmmEffI am using tcpdump incorrectly I think02:17
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Sam-I-Amtcpdump -ln -i <interface>02:18
Sam-I-Aminside the netns, it will be one of those qr* or qg*02:18
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EmmEffOk, so I was doing it right...02:20
EmmEff21:19:30.363533 fa:16:3e:f9:61:1d > fa:16:3e:b8:93:d3, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 126: 172.20.128.15 > 10.5.5.2: ICMP host 8.8.8.8 unreachable, length 9202:20
EmmEff21:19:30.976497 fa:16:3e:b8:93:d3 > fa:16:3e:f9:61:1d, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 98: 10.5.5.2 > 8.8.8.8: ICMP echo request, id 24577, seq 3, length 6402:20
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Sam-I-Am15 is the floating ip or the gw?02:21
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EmmEfffloating02:21
Sam-I-Amwhats the external network's gw ip?02:21
EmmEff172.20.0.102:21
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EmmEffi see a ton of arp requests from the instance asking for arp for 172.0.0.102:22
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Sam-I-Amerr, the external network created within openstack02:22
Sam-I-Amthe one your floating IPs come out of02:22
EmmEffi have it configured the same... is that wrong?02:23
Sam-I-Amso two networks own .1?02:23
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EmmEffsorry, it's 172.20.128.1002:24
EmmEffmy misunderstanding...02:24
Sam-I-Amcan you ping that?02:24
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EmmEffyes02:24
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Sam-I-Amwithout a floating ip, can the instance ping anything in the outside world?02:25
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Sam-I-Amthat .10 address should be on the qg* interface in the qrouter ns02:25
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EmmEffno02:26
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EmmEffand yes, that address is in the qgXXX interface02:26
Sam-I-Amcan you ping the .10 from the instance?02:27
EmmEffyes02:27
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Sam-I-Amwhat about the .1?02:28
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EmmEffno, ping to 172.20.0.1 does not work02:29
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EmmEff21:30:06.979983 ARP, Request who-has 172.20.0.1 tell 172.20.128.10, length 2802:30
EmmEfflots of those in tcpdump02:30
Sam-I-Amon br-ex or somewhere else?02:30
EmmEffon the qgXXXX interface in the ns02:30
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Sam-I-Amok. that should make it to the br-ex interface02:31
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EmmEffthat arp request is also present in on the br-ex interface02:32
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Sam-I-Ambut nothing back from .1?02:35
EmmEffnothing02:35
Sam-I-Ambut from a 'real' interface on that network, you can ping .1?02:36
EmmEffyes02:36
Sam-I-Amhmm02:38
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Sam-I-Amis the underlying interface in promisc mode?02:39
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EmmEffUP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:102:39
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Sam-I-Amwell, it seems like everything should be working02:41
EmmEffI've been trying to figure out the problem here for 2 straight days now...02:41
Sam-I-Amwhat interface has the IP on that /16 network?02:42
EmmEffeth002:42
Sam-I-Amis that also what br-ex is on?02:42
EmmEffsorry, the underlying interface is eth0... br-ex has the IP02:42
Sam-I-Amok02:42
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Sam-I-Amand pings from br-ex are fine, right?02:43
EmmEffyes02:43
Sam-I-Amwhat owns .1?02:43
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EmmEffa router02:43
Sam-I-Amis there anything else on that /16 you can try to ping from the instance?02:43
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EmmEffyes, I just tried to ping another box on the /16 network and same result- didn't work02:44
Sam-I-Ambut the instance pings .10 ok, right?02:44
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EmmEffyup02:45
Sam-I-Amdid you edit the syctl.conf on all of these boxes?02:45
Sam-I-Amsysctl02:45
EmmEffyes02:45
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EmmEffnet.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 002:45
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EmmEffnet.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 002:45
EmmEffnet.ipv4.ip_forward = 102:46
Sam-I-Amhmm ok... and those are in effect, right?02:46
EmmEffyes02:46
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EmmEffthose were taken from the output of 'sysctl -p02:46
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Sam-I-Amok02:46
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Sam-I-Amwhat else is on that /16 that you tried to ping?02:46
EmmEffanother linux box... no association to the openstack installation02:46
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Sam-I-Amcan you ping it from within the qrouter netns?02:47
EmmEffno02:48
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Sam-I-Ammore unanswered arp traffic?02:48
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EmmEffi see the icmp request02:49
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EmmEffand the arp02:50
Sam-I-Amany arp replies?02:50
EmmEffno02:51
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EmmEffI'm going to replicate this setup locally on different hardware. I thought something was wrong with the network or something. If you think this is supposed to work, I felt the same way based on the lack of answers when I was doing my own troubleshooting02:51
Sam-I-Ami dont know exactly what your setup looks like, but from the traces we've done, it SEEMS like it should be working.02:52
Sam-I-Amunder which tenants did you create the external and tenant networks?02:52
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EmmEffI thought the same. I worked through the network troubleshooting section in the OpenStack docs02:52
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Sam-I-Amwhat i'm wondering is why the router isn't responding to the arp req02:53
EmmEffThe external network was created under "admin", the tenant network under "project1"02:53
Sam-I-Amok that should be fine02:53
EmmEffI started the instance as project102:53
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Sam-I-Ami wonder where those arps are going02:53
EmmEffYeah, same here... I wish I had an answer02:53
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Sam-I-Amwould be easiest to stick a nice wide open linux box on the same network with tcpdump and see what it sees... and is trying to send back.02:54
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EmmEffI don't have root access on the network (only the openstack machines), so I'll have to replicate this locally.02:54
EmmEffI appreciate all your help. No use flogging a dead horse any further.02:54
Sam-I-Amlol02:54
EmmEffIf I can yell at our IT people as a result, I'd be happy to :)02:54
Sam-I-Amthat arp thing seems unusual. if you werent seeing an arp, that's one thing. but you are.02:55
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Sam-I-Amso, without really peering into your system, it seems like traffic is passing out from br-ex/eth002:55
EmmEffyeah, based on my knowledge, it's almost completely working...  "almost" being the key word02:55
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EmmEffI'll to recreating this setup tomorrow in libvirt VMs02:56
Sam-I-Amsounds fun :/02:56
Sam-I-Ami've seen some really screwy network configs in here02:57
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Sam-I-Amcould be some sort of security feature on the network too02:57
EmmEffthanks again. I'll pop back in sometime this week and see if you're around and hopefully tell you that it was configured correctly on the openstack side :)02:57
Sam-I-Amlike... mac address security02:57
EmmEffI had the same thought02:57
Sam-I-Amyour IT folks are trying to screw with you :P02:57
Sam-I-Ami'm in and out around here02:57
EmmEffcool. have a good night/day02:58
Sam-I-Amnight here... getting close to relaxation time02:58
Sam-I-Amseeya02:58
EmmEffbye02:58
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openstack249hi anybody03:16
openstack249??03:16
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daveopshi, anybody here03:16
openstack249yes...03:16
openstack249im also in search of someone03:17
openstack249hi daveops!!03:17
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daveopsgreetings03:17
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MrCurious1i think next time i install openstack on my laptop for development... i will see if i can compartmentalize each component inside of seperate docker containers for ease of re-building and backing up04:07
Sam-I-Aminteresting04:08
MrCurious1might even make for nice eay docker repo's for quicker spin up of openstack or openstack components04:09
MrCurious1easy rather04:09
MrCurious1sure would make roll-back and un-fudge maneuvers faster...04:10
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Sam-I-Ami havent used docker04:11
Sam-I-Amexcept the shows04:11
Sam-I-Amshoes04:11
MrCurious1its cake to install...04:13
MrCurious1take 5 minutes04:13
MrCurious1another 10 to get the jist04:13
MrCurious1maybe 30 - 60 to get how to add features  to images and checkpoint it  into the local repo04:14
MrCurious1ping me if you get stuck... i have it working now, and getting a local repo is down to 5 lines if you know the right site (for instructions)04:14
MrCurious1just wish i could get it working with openstack so i could have the ease  of  use + light weight containers04:14
Sam-I-Amcool04:14
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Sam-I-Amis there any precedent for that?04:15
MrCurious1yeah. found 2 articles detailing how to do docker + openstack04:15
MrCurious1but my openstack mojo is too shallow for me to spot where i am failing the instructions04:15
MrCurious1i suspect its because the compute can only be docker or kvm, not both04:16
Sam-I-Amah04:16
MrCurious1while i have your ear sam.... :)04:16
MrCurious1do you know how to configure openstack to use cinder-volumes LVM to host images by default instead of the host filesystem?04:17
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MrCurious1would love to seperate vm's from hosts, so backups dont grab vm's04:17
Sam-I-Amimages as in... things that go in glance?04:18
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MrCurious1when i create a vm in docker04:20
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Sam-I-Amoh, so the root fs for the vm04:20
MrCurious1i want it to live on the cinder-volumes rather than in var/lib/glance/images04:20
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MrCurious1yes. i can do it by making a volume first04:21
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MrCurious1but i think its configurable to be used by default in a 1 step rather than 2 step process04:21
MrCurious1tried last night, and hosed my install and had to roll it back again04:21
MrCurious120 minute roll-backs make experiments way more paletable...04:22
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Sam-I-Ami'm a little confused. /var/lib/glance/images stores vm images and /var/lib/nova/whatever stores the actual VMs built from those instances04:23
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MrCurious1sorry, confused those04:23
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MrCurious1so use LVM cinder-volumes to host the images instead of the host linux's root filesyste04:24
MrCurious1m04:24
Sam-I-Ami believe glance can talk to cinder these days04:24
MrCurious1yep04:24
MrCurious1trick i seek is the clue on how to configure it to use that exclusively04:24
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Sam-I-Ammmm04:28
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Sam-I-Ammust be in the config somewhere, because i dont see a cli directive for it04:29
MrCurious1glance-api.conf04:30
MrCurious1default_store04:30
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MrCurious1i set that to cinder04:30
MrCurious1and uncommented known_stores = ...filesystem...04:30
MrCurious1and the cinder line04:30
MrCurious1rebooted, and the chaos monkey appeared04:30
MrCurious1so i figure there is more to it than that04:30
Sam-I-Amchaos monkey? is that like mooga mode?04:31
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MrCurious1as in i broke the install and existing vm's and new ones were failing04:31
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Sam-I-Amsounds like mooga mode04:32
MrCurious1i think i ran into the sheep dog collie thing here https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/7322/how-to-use-cinder-as-glance-default_store/04:33
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Sam-I-Ami'd almost say swift is a better platform for vm images than block storage04:34
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MrCurious1for a single node install04:35
Sam-I-Amwell... yeah04:38
MrCurious1ok, i will have to see about installing the swift component04:39
Sam-I-Amcan you just tell your backup system not to grab certain things?04:39
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MrCurious1i could04:40
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MrCurious1i think you are right about swift... going to have to get on that04:40
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tejuhi all...how to add an attribute to cinder volumes?? for example, I want to add an attribute like display_name....how to do it??05:49
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eskerQuick gerrit question... will it reject a submission if an associated blueprint is newly filed and not yet approved?08:04
eskerencountered:  ! [remote rejected] HEAD ->08:04
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nspmangalorehi.. I'm trying to understand what the client_timeout parameter actually means08:11
nspmangaloreFeb 12 12:30:49 ubuntuvm proxy-server: ERROR Client read timeout (60s) (txn: tx4146422d6b5e4262b8834-0052fb1bcc) (client_ip: 172.16.10.79)08:11
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sc-rmIs it possible to run the user_data in a heat script as a login shell, because e.g.. rvm use can only be done in a login shell.09:34
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kosithere is a way to disallow users launching instances with ephemeral storage for a given flavor? the only solution I found was adding a hook on 'create_instance' which raises an InvalidBDM when conditions met10:18
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alex-foosome of the jenkins tests for git-review are sporadically hanging and I can't get my patch to verify12:38
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alex-foohttps://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-git-review-python26/70/12:38
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FulgrimHey guys I am looking for a little help integrating docker with nova-compute12:47
Fulgrimwhen I set the compute_driver field to docker12:47
Fulgrimnova-compute will not start12:47
Fulgrimand I get the following output12:47
Fulgrim2014-02-12 14:49:24.816 29808 ERROR nova.openstack.common.threadgroup [-] 'NoneType' object is not iterable12:47
Fulgrim2014-02-12 14:49:24.816 29808 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup Traceback (most recent call last):12:47
Fulgrim2014-02-12 14:49:24.816 29808 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/threadgroup.py", line 117, in wait12:47
Fulgrim2014-02-12 14:49:24.816 29808 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup     x.wait()12:47
Fulgrim2014-02-12 14:49:24.816 29808 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/threadgroup.py", line 49, in wait12:47
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Fulgrimhttp://pastebin.com/rp03aiXU12:50
Fulgrimsorry about that12:50
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Fulgrimabove is a link to a pastebin of the output when I try to start the compute service12:50
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Fulgrimis anoyone online that can help with integrating docker with nova?14:25
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gabrielecercascHi there, anyone ever got this annoying issue while creating the nova user with keystone ?14:36
gabrielecercasc[root@wn06 ~]# keystone --os-token=ed18c5204650410c8997d83dfda6ee2f --os-endpoint=http://10.7.2.91:5000/v2.0 user-create --name=nova --pass=WWW45 --email=grid-tech@garr.it  The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) [root@wn06 ~]# keystone user-create --name=nova --pass=WWW45 --email=grid-tech@garr.it  Expecting an auth URL via either --os-auth-url or env[OS_AUTH_URL]14:37
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gabrielecercascThe problem seems to be "The resource could not be find"14:38
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diogogmtanybody recommends  a good tutorial on network ports?15:11
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diogogmtI'm familiar with cloudstack and amazon, so I'm trying to put ports in a similar context15:12
diogogmtwhat would be the relation to ports as far as the network, subnet, and servers are concerned?15:12
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diogogmtis a "port" the same thing as a network interface on the VM?15:17
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dsockwel1diogogmt: do you mean a port as in port 80 for http? some context would be helpful15:19
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djoreillydiogogmt, see here http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/Overview-d1e71.html#Port15:24
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dsockwel1diogogmt: oh right, the openstack construct - forgot where i was for a moment.15:24
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inc0hello, quick question. I have 2 zones with shared Cloud control node and I'd like to have them separated on L3. So I guess 2 Network nodes are in order. Is there configuration, which will force specyfic network node to set up network based on zone I'm booting instance in? Is this idea any good anyway?15:33
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JoshuaG_AIMDoes anyone know how to attach a software vlan to a hardware vlan in Open Stack?15:44
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matttis it possible to allow VMs to access the public internet when using private tenant gre networks w/ no public floating IPs ?15:47
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JoshuaG_AIMno Matt15:48
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matttJoshuaG_AIM: i can't have the traffic NAT out my controller's public interface like i'd have done w/ nova networks ?15:49
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JoshuaG_AIMnot easily15:49
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JoshuaG_AIMit works great like that with Nova networks15:50
JoshuaG_AIMnot with Neutron15:50
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arcimboldohi all, i have problem deleting cinder volumes in Folsom, it runs dd even though I put "volume_clear=none" in cinder.conf15:50
matttJoshuaG_AIM: doh, ok ... thanks !15:51
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JoshuaG_AIMsorry for the bad news15:51
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JoshuaG_AIMDoes anyone know how to attach a software vlan to a hardware vlan in Open Stack?15:51
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arcimboldocan you confirm the options for cinder to *avoid* running dd on a LVM volume when deleting the volume?16:00
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Sam-I-Amarcimboldo: volume_clear=none i think16:02
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Sam-I-Amarcimboldo: under each backing16:02
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arcimboldoSam-I-Am,  I only have  a DEFAULT section16:03
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arcimboldoshall I create explicit sections for the various backends?16:04
Sam-I-Amarcimboldo: you can try it there, if it doesnt work, you'll need explicit sections16:05
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arcimboldoI tried, and it didn't work16:05
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arcimboldoit's still trying to delete the volume I was trying to delete before16:12
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arcimboldoI guess I have to delete it manually16:12
arcimboldowhat I am supposed to modify on the db?16:13
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prometheanfireJoshuaG_AIM: neutron should be able to do it (think I did it in the neutron class)16:14
arcimboldocan I just set deleted=1 ?16:14
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arcimboldoon cinder.volumes table?16:14
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Sam-I-Ami dont know16:16
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Sam-I-Amgotta run for a bit16:16
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arcimboldoI also have a few volumes in "creating" since ages...16:22
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JoshuaG_AIMI need some help here............16:36
JoshuaG_AIMDoes anyone know how to attach a software vlan to a hardware vlan in Open Stack?16:36
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JoshuaG_AIMDoes anyone know how to attach a Neutron vlan to a hardware vlan in Open Stack?16:38
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larsksJoshuaG_AIM: That sounds like a "provider network".  You can find some information here:17:06
larskshttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_networking.html17:06
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dthorhi there, noob here.   can someone point me to some Neutron documentation for setting up a bridged network?   I need to deploy instances in the my public network.  I know I can do this with nova, but I have other reasons for needing Neutron.   I can't seem to find any documentation on how to.19:35
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annegentledthor: have you seen http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/install-neutron.html19:37
annegentledthor: and http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_networking.html19:38
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dthorannegentle:  thank you.  you have produced two documents google couldn't. :)19:40
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dthorannegentle: before I jump down the rabbit hole, am I correct in assuming I will need to use the L2 plugin to do this?   I need a bridge, not a router.19:42
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Sam-I-Amdthor: you will probably use OVS for layer 219:45
Sam-I-Amhowever, the layer3 agents will still need to run19:45
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dthorSam-I-Am: thanks.   I feel I have lots of reading to do on the CLI.  :)    I'm coming over from VMWare, so I'm probably looking at things upside down.19:47
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dthorSam-I-Am, annegentle, this is enough to get me on the right track, thanks both19:47
Sam-I-Amvmware has provided a nova-like solution for a while now... neutron is more like NSX, which isn't really available to most people.19:47
dthorSam-I-Am: that makes perfect sense.19:48
Sam-I-Ami forget what the nova-like thing is19:48
Sam-I-Ambut i have it running somewhere here19:48
Sam-I-Amit will handle basic network functions19:48
dthorjust vSphere19:48
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Sam-I-Amideally, neutron will integrate with network hardware19:48
dthorvCenter is kinda like horizon19:48
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Sam-I-Ami think its in vcloud director19:49
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Sam-I-Amdthor: so are you looking to run openstack alongside vmware? or with certain vmware components?19:53
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sputnik13netI can't force delete a vm, and in the nova-compute log I see something about "IncompatibleObjectVersion"20:28
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sputnik13netthe compute node this is happening on is a new compute node I added to the cluster today, and it looks like it's running a newer version of nova-compute than everything else20:29
sputnik13netdoes this mean I have to upgrade my entire cluster?20:29
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pravkaanyone had an issue where nova-novnc forwards requests to an incorrect instance after live-migration?20:42
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jrwrenpython-swiftclient support for copy if any wants to merge it: https://github.com/jrwren/python-swiftclient/commit/b299412153c5fb3f795d3bce70bcb2465715945e21:08
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sputnik13netis there a practical maximum cinder volume size using ceph or gluster?21:34
sputnik13netanyone?21:34
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devoidsputnik13net, for gluster it's bounded by the size of your brick21:49
devoidfor ceph I don't think there's that limitation21:49
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zzellehi, does someone know why veth are used to interconnect br-int with vlan bridge(s) ?22:21
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devoidzzelle, what else would it use?22:26
zzelleovs patch as between br-int and br-tun22:26
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zzelledevoid, it's the solution proposed by openvswitch22:30
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