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| MrCurious1 | suppose now i need to work out iif itsees the block storage volumes cinder-volumes and the vlume for os volumes | 01:11 |
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| MrCurious1 | seems the the role _member_ gets created, but the role Member is reqired to create projects | 02:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in horizon? | 02:30 |
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| todayman | I'm running Havana on Debian. Upon running "nova boot...", instance creation fails. The error is "Connection to neutron failed. [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED". neutron-server is definitely running, though. What should I start looking for in order to solve this problem? | 02:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is anything listening on port 9696? | 02:33 |
| todayman | yes | 02:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do your hostnames resolve to the right IP? | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | and is anything firewalled? | 02:34 |
| todayman | I also can't find this error in the nova logs either. I've turned on verbose and debug. | 02:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | where are you seeing that error then? | 02:34 |
| todayman | the error gets displayed from "nova show" | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | the compute node needs to reach neutron too | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it could be logging there | 02:35 |
| todayman | There isn't a firewall running on this server | 02:35 |
| todayman | I'll take a look at the compute node | 02:35 |
| todayman | that seems to have something | 02:35 |
| todayman | thank you. | 02:35 |
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| MrCurious1 | i take a snapshot of a fresh install, but it doesnt show in images & snapshots | 02:37 |
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| sontek | You guys familiar with pbr the packaging wrappers around setuptools? Trying to use it with a namespace package and can't find the right setup to make it work | 02:38 |
| sontek | with standard setuptools I just do the namespace_packages=['namespace'] in setup.py and it works | 02:38 |
| clarkb | sontek: pretty sure the various oslo libs use pbr and setup namespaces | 02:38 |
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| clarkb | sontek: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.config/tree/setup.cfg | 02:39 |
| sontek | clarkb: thanks, I'll take a look at those | 02:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious1: do you see it in 'glance image-list; ? | 02:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr image-list' | 02:40 |
| MrCurious1 | no | 02:40 |
| MrCurious1 | that is just the install images | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious1: did you follow the install guide? | 02:40 |
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| MrCurious1 | "in theory" | 02:41 |
| MrCurious1 | i think something else is afoot. cant reach my new instances by ssh, which is a first | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... it hasnt been approved yet, but i wrote a patch for what i think your problem is | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | basically glance doesnt auth via keystone, so snapshots dont work | 02:42 |
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| MrCurious1 | then i will not spend time hunting that down | 02:43 |
| MrCurious1 | i see... the new project group i created seems to lack network privs | 02:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67239/ | 02:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the patch is in there... its a pretty simple change | 02:44 |
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| andrewbogott | Currently I'm running a flat dhcp network via nova-network in folsom. When I upgrade to Havana is switching to neutron required or advised? Does the nova-network service still exist in Havana? | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | andrewbogott: you can keep nova-net | 02:45 |
| andrewbogott | I don't especially crave any new network features (although I suppose DNS would be nice, eventually.) | 02:45 |
| andrewbogott | Can designate be used with nova-net? | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | designate? | 02:45 |
| andrewbogott | Um… designate is DNS as a service isn't it? | 02:45 |
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| andrewbogott | I inherited an upgrade plan from a now-departed colleague, trying to make sense out of it :) | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah | 02:46 |
| andrewbogott | He was definitely planning to adopt Neutron, wondering what the motivation was. | 02:46 |
| andrewbogott | Other than 'shiny' | 02:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it has its uses | 02:46 |
| andrewbogott | Would you expect performance differences? | 02:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so dnsaas... in terms of... boot something, and it updates dns? | 02:46 |
| andrewbogott | Yeah, I want an automatic DNS entry (via pdns/ldap) for new instances and newly-assigned floating IPs | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know if there's much performance difference. the basic config still uses linux networking and iptables | 02:47 |
| andrewbogott | Right now we have a homemade solution for that, it's quite rickity. | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent seen an official solution for that | 02:47 |
| andrewbogott | ok | 02:47 |
| clarkb | designate isn't official, but it is in use by HP and should work reasonably well | 02:48 |
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| andrewbogott | Hm, I'm definitely leaning towards maintaining all our current design and just bumping up the service versions. | 02:48 |
| clarkb | you may need to have the thing running nova boot run a designate call to after the host comes up though | 02:48 |
| andrewbogott | clearkb: Is it coupled with Neutron at all? Or is that unrelated? | 02:48 |
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| clarkb | andrewbogott: I don't know | 02:48 |
| andrewbogott | ok :) | 02:49 |
| * andrewbogott gets back to googling | 02:49 | |
| andrewbogott | thanks y'all. | 02:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 02:49 |
| clarkb | andrewbogott: https://designate.readthedocs.org/en/latest/configuration.html#handler-nova | 02:49 |
| clarkb | looks like it speaks to nova | 02:49 |
| clarkb | which makes sense that way neutron vs nova-network doesn't matter | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | andrewbogott: nova-network is going away | 02:50 |
| andrewbogott | Oh, I guess, one other question… as we're setting up a new data center I'm sensitive to things that are easier to accomplish from scratch vs. as later add-ons. | 02:50 |
| box | why only 5MB for /dev/shm ? | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | we have no choice but to go with neutron | 02:50 |
| andrewbogott | Ryan_Lane: Hello! You have all my answers I bet :) | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 02:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | someday it'll go away | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I wanted to move to neutron now, rather than moving to the new datacenter, then migrating | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | because it'll be a pain in the ass | 02:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it keeps sticking around | 02:51 |
| andrewbogott | Ryan_Lane: Sure, if nova-net is predicted to phase out then that's a clear reason to move away now. | 02:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | designate is something I wanted separately, because I wanted to move away from maintaining our own dns code | 02:51 |
| andrewbogott | Maybe all this will just magically work with the upstream puppet classes anyway :) | 02:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | maybe | 02:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | I haven't tried them, but I'd also like to move away from maintaining our own puppet modules too | 02:52 |
| andrewbogott | Indeed. | 02:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | of course if we used hiera I'd care less | 02:52 |
| andrewbogott | A bit tough to test in labs because our default VMs don't have multiple network adapters. Do you happen to know a workaround for that? | 02:53 |
| andrewbogott | Alternative is to set up a temporary puppet master and point the new eqiad cluster at it for testing... | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'd test neutron in production in eqiad | 02:53 |
| andrewbogott | Or just muddy up the prod repo with experimental stuff I guess | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | right | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | puppet, sorry. | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah, I'd put it experimentally in production | 02:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | my worry is that we'd have overlapping classes | 02:54 |
| andrewbogott | We most likely will. But it might actually be quite easy to set up one of the eqiad boxes as a temporary puppet master... | 02:54 |
| andrewbogott | anyway, I'll look. | 02:54 |
| andrewbogott | And, sorry other #openstack listeners, for all the inside baseball :) | 02:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | geg | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, heh | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | its all good | 02:55 |
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| * Sam-I-Am would like to mess with a dns updater thingy | 02:56 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i hear lots of requests for such a thing | 02:57 |
| andrewbogott | I wrote one ages ago but never deployed it because there were so many competing implementations... | 02:57 |
| andrewbogott | Keep hoping that a leader will emerge | 02:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | designate is the leader | 02:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm actually very surprised it still isn't in incubation | 02:58 |
| andrewbogott | yeah, looks hopeful | 02:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd be willing to test something like that | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've run dns crap for eons | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | with ddns from dhcp too | 02:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also needs to work with v6 | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | something else i need to test in neutron | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | so much to do, so little time | 03:00 |
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| andrewbogott | hm, I guess the stackforge puppet classes https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack are different from those written by puppet labs https://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/openstack? | 03:12 |
| andrewbogott | Has anyone here used either? | 03:13 |
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| clarkb | andrewbogott: they are the same | 03:15 |
| clarkb | note the project url on puppet forge | 03:15 |
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| andrewbogott | Ah, yes, after following several links I see. That's reassuring. | 03:15 |
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| mmmucky | andrewbogott: we use them and are happy with their quality. | 03:37 |
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| andrewbogott | mmmucky: Great! Do you use the upstream repo directly, or do you have a custom fork? | 03:37 |
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| mmmucky | We use the upstream repos directly, although we do have some custom modules that we use to apply them. | 03:43 |
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| andrewbogott | mmmucky: cool, that's the approach I'm hoping to use as well | 03:45 |
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| mmmucky | You shouldn't have many problems, they work well. | 03:46 |
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| AMike | Can anyone tell me it is possible to run instances without ephemerial storage like ordinary VM? Only run and boot on volume storage | 05:13 |
| MrCurious1 | i think if you create a volume and use an install image as its source | 05:13 |
| MrCurious1 | you can then use that to boot a machine, and end up with a normal VM-esque full system image | 05:14 |
| MrCurious1 | but i am new, and may be totally wrong | 05:14 |
| cleverfoo | hey folks, anyone running into problems with keystone PKI tokens being too large? | 05:15 |
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| AMike | MrCurious1: thanks! | 05:21 |
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| MrCurious1 | thats just from poking around and trying to work out what volumes were for | 05:22 |
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| cleverfoo | hey does anyone know/uses keystone token hashing? | 05:31 |
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| teju | hi all...i am not able to ssh to my instances from outside compute nodes....any help?? | 05:35 |
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| MrCurious1 | can you ping the outside from the instances? | 05:37 |
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| teju | no | 05:39 |
| teju | do u think this is a firewall issue?? | 05:39 |
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| andrewbogott | mmmucky, are you using neutron? I'm wondering what to tell puppet to use as $network_manager (the default is nova.network.manager.FlatDHCPManager) | 05:47 |
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| MrCurious1 | teju i had an issue where i couldnt reach outside. it was caused by 2 seperate issues. 1. my outside address was within the inside private network | 05:51 |
| MrCurious1 | 2 wlan0 requires a tweek to be able to route NAT out | 05:51 |
| teju | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dports 6080 -j ACCEPT | 05:51 |
| teju | will this help?? | 05:51 |
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| MrCurious1 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Configuring-Floating-IPs | 05:52 |
| MrCurious1 | i had to iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING 1 -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j MASQUERADE -o wlan0 | 05:52 |
| MrCurious1 | then i could reach outside. but to get inside from outside is something different | 05:52 |
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| teju | ok | 05:52 |
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| teju | hi all...i have 1 controller node and 2 compute nodes..when i launch an instance,how does the controller choose which compute node to host the instance on?? | 06:05 |
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| andrewbogott | teju: the nova-scheduler service decides. I believe that you can choose from several balancing strategies. | 06:07 |
| andrewbogott | Don't know offhand what the default is… round-robin maybe | 06:07 |
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| teju | andrewbogott: thanks...i believe i can force an instance to be hosted on a particular compute node!!! | 06:08 |
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| DrifterZA | Hi Guys | 08:51 |
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| DrifterZA | When my instance can get to http://169.254.169.254 and cloud-init says http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [116/120s]: bad status code [404], what else can I check to get metadata working | 08:53 |
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| kemra102 | I am having issues with using Gluster shared storage as /var/lib/nova/instances, is I do this then the image boots but libguestfs fails to mount the image and insert data into it. As such disk is not resized, keys are not inserted etc. If I go back to local storage everything works perfectly. I saw a guide from Gluster that shows that this should work without errors but obviously it is not, does anyone have any insight on this issue? | 09:22 |
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| lifeless | kemra102: might it be a permissions thing or something ? | 09:27 |
| lifeless | kemra102: is there anything in the nova log? can you use guestfish by hand successfully? | 09:28 |
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| nspmangalore | hi all | 09:28 |
| nspmangalore | i have a running swift setup with 1 node | 09:29 |
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| nspmangalore | this node already has several containers and objects that it serves | 09:29 |
| kemra102 | I have confirmed the correct owners and permissions already, so sadly not that. guestfish can be run without errors if mounting ro but hangs when mounting rw (if my memory serves from when I tried to do that) | 09:29 |
| darky^ | Someone here also experienced this issue? | 09:30 |
| darky^ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1272072 | 09:30 |
| kemra102 | Also the nova compute.log shows the error I wrote about here a little while back: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8496/error-mounting-with-libguestfs-guestfs_launch-failed/?comment=10362#comment-10362 | 09:30 |
| lifeless | so the hang by hand could be the same root problem | 09:31 |
| lifeless | kemra102: can you use the metadata service rather than file injection ? | 09:31 |
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| kemra102 | Possibly, do you have a link to a good reference of setting up the metedata service? | 09:32 |
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| nspmangalore | i'm now adding a new node to the cluster.. i'm following these steps: | 09:32 |
| nspmangalore | 1. setup the disks appropriately | 09:32 |
| nspmangalore | 2. From the node already in the cluster, i added the new node to the rings | 09:32 |
| nspmangalore | 3. I ran a rebalance on each ring | 09:32 |
| nspmangalore | 4. I copied the ring.gz files to the new node | 09:32 |
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| nspmangalore | so my question is.. is there a need to restart swift service on these nodes once the ring info is updated? | 09:33 |
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| lifeless | kemra102: it runs by default on nova-api | 09:34 |
| lifeless | kemra102: if you're using neutron, the neutron-metadata-agent brokers access to it | 09:34 |
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| lifeless | kemra102: the deployer docs for however you deployed should cover it; you can set | 09:35 |
| lifeless | [libvirt] | 09:35 |
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| lifeless | inject_partition=-2 | 09:35 |
| lifeless | to disable file injection entirely | 09:35 |
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| kemra102 | lifeless: I'm using nova-network instead of neutron. I do have some configuration options set for metadata but the docs I used do not cover the metadata service. I'll go back over what docs are available to see what if anything I've missed. | 09:36 |
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| lifeless | kemra102: ok, so for nova-network is basically a DNAT rule on 169.254.169.254 port 80 -> nova-api endpoint port | 09:36 |
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| kemra102 | lifeless: thanks for the pointer I'll take a look at that | 09:37 |
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| rurul | hi | 10:17 |
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| humbolt | I would have some questions about swift, about its general architecture and purpose. | 10:47 |
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| humbolt | and how it compares to ceph | 10:48 |
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| humbolt | ergo which road I rather go down. | 10:48 |
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| Guest72822 | hi | 11:43 |
| Guest72822 | can somebody help me with this | 11:44 |
| Guest72822 | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10998/how-to-filter-servers-list-by-metadata-value-using-python-novaclient/ | 11:44 |
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| Guest72822 | please help | 11:46 |
| Guest72822 | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10998/how-to-filter-servers-list-by-metadata-value-using-python-novaclient/ | 11:46 |
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| nissim | hi | 14:22 |
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| nissim | have a question regarding openstack networking deployment, anyone available? | 14:22 |
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| darky^ | Anyone experienced the problem that live-migration does not work due to "InstanceNotFound: Instance instance-00000079 could not be found." ? | 14:26 |
| darky^ | http://pastebin.com/yFq4qVpA | 14:27 |
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| nissim | looks like no one is actually here and willing to assist | 14:28 |
| anand | hi darky^ I am facing diff error ERROR: Live migration of instance d210d86b-7492-4079-be65-cb3923d4178b to another host failed (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-21d13e94-0c24-4e95-be05-565eb54c5ae1) | 14:28 |
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| nissim | steps to deploy openstack networking use case: per tenant router with private networks (openstack havana installation guide pdf chapter 9) , are not clear, can anyone assist on clarifying the steps? | 14:31 |
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| nissim | not in details of course | 14:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: those use cases are outdated and being worked on | 14:32 |
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| nissim | ok, so where do I find an updated installation guide? I am stuck in the middle of the deployment on the networking chapter. | 14:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd just follow the standard deployment (not in the use cases section) which is 1 provider router with private tenant networks | 14:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can always create more per-tenant routers later | 14:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you might also find some updated stuff in the 'trunk' version | 14:35 |
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| darky^ | Somebody remembers which user is used for migration? | 14:40 |
| darky^ | it's not the nova user - is it? | 14:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i believe it is | 14:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it needs ssh keys to work | 14:41 |
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| darky^ | thanks sam-i-am! | 14:42 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am: Thanks for the tip, I will start with the default setup | 14:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 14:43 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am: when do you think they will fix the docs for us to able to install more complex use cases and enjoy all features? | 14:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | we're probably sticking with the most common/easy use case for the install guide and moving more complex options to the cloud admin guide or separate book | 14:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hopefully in time for icehouse, which uses the ML2 plugin | 14:44 |
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| darky^ | Hmm... | 14:49 |
| darky^ | Sam-I-Am, does something comes to your mind mentioning "Live Migration failure: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: W: kvm binary is deprecated, please use qemu-system-x86_64 instead" ? | 14:50 |
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| darky^ | I've read about it several times but no solution yet. | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this on havana? | 14:50 |
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| darky^ | yup. | 14:51 |
| darky^ | 2013.2 | 14:51 |
| darky^ | ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 14:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 14:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | from the looks of it, seems like the ubuntu kvm stuff changed from under openstack | 14:59 |
| darky^ | feels strange to me since most of the ppl use ubuntu 12.04 LTS as base for openstack afaik? | 15:00 |
| darky^ | hmm. | 15:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the two projects unfortunately run independently | 15:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack supports other hypervisors | 15:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know how to help you other than filing a bug... although i dont know what to file it against | 15:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or search for an existing bug | 15:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | darky^: i think your messages is just a warning, which means it should work anyway | 15:05 |
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| darky^ | hmm. | 15:09 |
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| darky^ | does live-migration work for anyone here using havana 2013.2? I'm curious since this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1044237 seems to be a blocker. | 15:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that bug was supposedly fixed | 15:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | migration has worked the few times i tested it | 15:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | could be a configuration issue | 15:23 |
| darky^ | migration or also live-migration? | 15:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | live migration | 15:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its been a while since i messed with it | 15:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i also was using qemu since my machines don't support nested virtualization | 15:23 |
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| darky^ | strange things I'm running into - hmm. | 15:23 |
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| carnaler | hey guys, 'morning | 15:24 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: on the single provider router with private network, can I unify management + external network on nic1 and data on nic2? | 15:31 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: I see network node requires 3 nics but is it mandatory? another thing, what exactly runs on the management interface? all api are actually served from the public interface | 15:32 |
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| notmyname | humbolt: still around? I just got up and saw your questions about swift's design | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | nissim: you can change it how you like. it just becomes a little more difficult to debug the flow of traffic when combining things. | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hi notmyname | 15:37 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: good morning | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: the management interface should be where all API calls transit | 15:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: how's your monday? | 15:38 |
| nissim | Sam-I-am: do you mean the internal api endpoints? | 15:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: yeah | 15:39 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am: because in the documentation they always use controller which is the same ip for all endpoints | 15:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: likely another simplification | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | nissim: the install guide is not written for production environments | 15:40 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am, so basically public endpoint should be available from the outside and internal should be available via management | 15:40 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: what about the VNC setup? in the docs it says it should use the internal interface, which one? DATA or MGMT? | 15:41 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: the docs are not that good this time, they got me confused. | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | managtment | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, management | 15:42 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: just starting but looks to be busy. off to get ready for the day now | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | the only thing that runs over the vm data interface is vm traffic | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | consoles to a vm would be considered management traffic | 15:42 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am, though so | 15:42 |
| nissim | Sam-I-Am: will vnc be available from public network proxied to mgmt net? | 15:43 |
| IRTermite | ohai nissim | 15:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: yeah, the url for the vnc console points to the controller | 15:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it proxies to the compute node | 15:43 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: Hi | 15:44 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: so it looks like I need to do some reconfiguration now, because my mgmt + public are on the same nic, also need to change the API endpoints too | 15:45 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: do you need anything? | 15:46 |
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| IRTermite | nah, nissim. haven't seen you on the forums in a while, and saw you chatting here. Figured I'd give a shout. Looks like you are still rockin things | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | nissim: openstack supports just about any config... just some are easier to envision and debug than others | 15:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | especially if you're new to it | 15:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and chances are, if you look for debug help in here, most of us tend to follow the install guide for our test configs | 15:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least i do... | 15:48 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: I hope you have a good memory of me :) , It is always nice to be back. I am planning on moving from Openstack Essex to Havana, so I need little clarifications on openstack docs | 15:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that should be a fun upgrade | 15:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like y'all know each other from somewhere | 15:50 |
| IRTermite | nissim: of course, mate. I try to keep a memory of all those I interact with, and help. Is this a base OpenStack install you are doing here, or are you still running RPC free? | 15:50 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: I am not taking the chance of upgrading, using it in production. building new environment a side | 15:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: migrating from nova-net to neutron? | 15:51 |
| nissim | IRTermite: left the RPC, can't get answers from Rackspace | 15:52 |
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| IRTermite | Sam-I-Am: yup, nissim was a regular on the rackspace community forums | 15:52 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: not upgrading, but yes from Nova network to Neutron | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, cool | 15:52 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: I am impressed, did you read my everlasting posts? | 15:53 |
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| nissim | IRTermit: RPC worked with Neutron, but had issued with metadata access that prevented me from using it, therefore I decided to do it the old fashion way which is manual install | 15:54 |
| IRTermite | Can't get answers? Ooh, that's no good. We certainly try to get to everyone's questions, but yours were creatively way outside the scope of the standard RPC cookbooks. You could obviously alter your install to fit your needs. Yes, I've read every one of your posts between you and JamesThorne | 15:54 |
| phschwartz | nissim: I have seen issues with metadata from neutron. Try setting it to use config drive instead. Works really good. | 15:55 |
| IRTermite | ^^ | 15:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what sort of issues? | 15:56 |
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| phschwartz | Sam-I-Am: The usual depending on your vlan and network setup. Routing to the metadata service from a namepsaced network can be intermittent. | 15:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | interesting | 15:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've seen people have random problems with metadata using the regular install | 15:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | typically just slow | 15:57 |
| phschwartz | I have seen that too | 15:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | something somewhere sits on the request for a while | 15:57 |
| nissim | IRTermite: don't get me wrong, the guys in Rackspace are good and tried to help as much as possible, but I thought they could have raised the glove and go one step further, I think everyone benefits from this details thread | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | occasional 500 errors or somesuch | 15:58 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: I wish I could use RPC, it will make my life and deployment life cycle much easier, but unfortunately I couldn't overcome the metadata issue | 16:01 |
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| IRTermite | Appreciate the feedback, nissim. Well accepted. I think that issues is much greater than just RPC, but will certainly bring it up with the Devs. | 16:02 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: you welcome, send my regards to Rackspace guys. Going manual :) | 16:03 |
| IRTermite | You are correct, nissim; every issue/change/update helps the greater community. Not only would that fix RPC, but it would be pushed back to trunk eventually. (we'd hope) And that solves everyone else's problems. | 16:03 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: have to go now, will do some configuration modification tomorrow and configure provider router with public networks use case as Sam-I-Am suggested. | 16:07 |
| IRTermite | nissim: do me a favor? pm me the post related to this issue, and I will use it for reference. | 16:07 |
| IRTermite | or email dale@rackspace.com | 16:07 |
| IRTermite | thanks! | 16:07 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: are you talking about me metadata issue posted on privatecloud forum? | 16:08 |
| IRTermite | yuppers | 16:08 |
| nissim | IRTermite: will do later tonight. | 16:09 |
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| nissim | Sam-I-Am: Thanks for the help, hope to update tomorrow | 16:09 |
| IRTermite | right on | 16:09 |
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| nissim | IRTermite: Thanks for everything, talk to you soon. | 16:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nissim: sure thing | 16:10 |
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| ftcjeff | devstack question - I'm trying to run devstack on a laptop running ubuntu 12.04; followed all the steps, etc. I run stack.sh and it does its thing. After a while, it tries to run nova flavor-list and errors with: ERROR: <attribute 'message' of 'exceptions.BaseException' objects> (HTTP 503). Has anyone see that before? I've googled but didn' come up with anything useful | 16:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ftcjeff: could be a problem with that build of trunk | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ftcjeff: iirc, you can change devstack to use an official release | 16:41 |
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| ftcjeff | Sam-I-Am: okay I'll try that next, thanks! | 16:41 |
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| mdorman | i want to change the name of an availability zone. so if i create a new one, and move all the compute hosts to the new zone… what will happen to the VMs already running in that zone? will they recognize the name change and just automatically reassociate to the new zone? or will they end up getting orphaned since there will no longer be any compute nodes in the original zone? | 16:43 |
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| nspmangalore | hi | 16:46 |
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| nspmangalore | also, how does the server decide the order of subobjects when answering a GET on the large object? | 16:47 |
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| larsks | nspmangalore: Those questions might be better targeted at #openstack-dev (or the -dev mailing list). | 16:53 |
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| nspmangalore | larsks: thanks. will do that | 16:55 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Let me know when you're around. I have a question. | 17:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 17:03 |
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| ram5391 | Hi, I am running into an issue with my openstack installation. I have asked the question here: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10931/401-errors-on-glancenova-image-list/ with no help. Neither my glance client or nova client can authenticate against keystone (it would seem). | 18:01 |
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| ram5391 | all of my keystone commands execute fine, I can retrieve endpoints and users, even tenants. But none of my users can authenticate into horizon, or ssh into their machines | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ram5391: can your users get tokens? | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystone token-get | 18:05 |
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| bhosmer | Is it possible to have publicly accessible instances in an install with only two static ips? I'm looking for something similar to how AWS assigns ec2-comput1-55.44.33.123-aws.amazon.com. I only have two static ips but I want to make multiple instances publicly accessible. | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | bhosmer: you pretty much cant | 18:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | bhosmer: unless you run a NAT box of sorts in the middle and map ports accordingly | 18:06 |
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| ram5391 | Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61956/ | 18:07 |
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| bhosmer | Sam-I-Am: thanks. that was what I was suspecting. | 18:09 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391:check you keystone and glance server logs | 18:19 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: Keystone and glance logs don't show anything of significance, just startup info | 18:22 |
| gmi12 | ram5391: is debug and verbose enabled? | 18:23 |
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| gmi12 | gmi12: does "nova list" work? I'm trying to see if only Glance is affected | 18:25 |
| ram5391 | gmi12: now they are, keystone log shows the following: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61959/ | 18:26 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: nova list does not work either | 18:27 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391:it looks like an error in keystone's config, can you paste it in pastebin? | 18:28 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: paste of keystone.conf: http://pastebin.com/Ww05cCKF | 18:31 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391: I think your endpoints are wrongly defined in the db | 18:36 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: I'll paste my endpoints stored in db | 18:38 |
| gmi12 | ram5391: try changing "http://10.10.1.10:8774/v2/%(tenant_id)s" with "http://10.10.1.10:8774/v2/$(tenant_id)s" directly in the db and see if it works | 18:38 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12 : no dice, unfortunately that change didn't affect anything, even after restarting keystone | 18:43 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391: can you put in pastebin your existing endpoints? this line in your logs makes me think the problem is there: "File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keystone-2013.1.a199.ge865b97-py2.7.egg/keystone/controllers.py", line 84, in _get_identity_url | 18:44 |
| gmi12 | url = CONF['%s_endpoint' % self.endpoint_url_type] % CONF | 18:44 |
| gmi12 | TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not str" | 18:44 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: http://pastebin.com/jaSveqHh <- endpoint list. However everything worked fine up to last week. I did some pruning of projects last thursday and since then things have not worked. I did not delete the admin tenant or default tenant. Not sure if that may trigger anything to you. | 18:49 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391: check what service user nova and glance are using and make sure they were not deleted and they still have the admin role for the service tenant | 18:52 |
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| ram5391 | gmi12: so there does not appear to be a service tenant or "project" (as the database calls it) in the database. I have a service table, with the identity, image, network, and compute services, but that is it | 18:56 |
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| stepheno | hey all. I have a quick question about instance storage and migration. I'm starting to run out of space in /var/lib/instances for my VM's, and am thinking about moving them to a NFS mount(more storage, and I gain the ability to do live migration). Is there anyway to move the underlying instance storage without requiring a reboot of the instance? | 18:56 |
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| stepheno | I was thinking of a bind mount of the NFS volume to /var/lib/nova/instances/ , but i'm not certain that would actually work | 18:57 |
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| gmi12 | ram5391: check in "/etc/nova/api-paste.ini" under the [filter:authtoken] section to see what user Nova is using to authenticate requests when talking to keystone; that user should be an admin for the tenant specified in that same config file | 18:59 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: the user is "admin" and the tenant is also "admin" if I try to add the admin role to the admin user, in the admin tenant, I get: "message": "Conflict occurred attempting to store role grant. User 07048d3cb9bd4f5d8b4a8ca91163c24a already has role 6442717858da4b8aa5416cf0fbf7c8d5 in tenant f7b27e8db30645dda873d4c772a528e6", "code": 409, "title": "Conflict" | 19:04 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391:that's another dead-end | 19:08 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: when I tail the keystone log, I get all of the info output that looks correct for the user that I'm trying to authenticate in horizon. Does it sound like nova failing to communicate with keystone? Or is it a keystone user-permissions issue? | 19:13 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391: I think it's nova not authenticating properly with keystone if you say that keystone commans like listing users and tenants work fine | 19:17 |
| gmi12 | ram-5391: can you put in the pastebin the output from the following commands after you remove any passwords? " env | grep OS; nova --debug list" | 19:18 |
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| ram-5391 | output from: env | grep OS: http://pastebin.com/6KRbKTJe | 19:20 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: output from nova --debug list: http://pastebin.com/n7TH9AXL | 19:23 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391: can you also paste the following? egrep -v "^$|^#" /etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 19:26 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: output of api-paste.ini: http://pastebin.com/uuxANHr8 | 19:30 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391: this is Grizzly, correct? | 19:33 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: we are still using folsom on this machine | 19:35 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391: this looks like Grizzly to me: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61959/ => File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keystone-2013.1.a199.ge865b97-py2.7.egg | 19:36 |
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| gmi12 | ram-5391: I don't think you should have both the admin user | 19:37 |
| gmi12 | am-5391: I don't think you should have both the admin user's credentials defined in api-paste.ini as well as the admin_token | 19:38 |
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| ram-5391 | gmi12: as far as I know we are only using folsom. But several people have worked on it before I inherited it. I'm not sure what they would have installed etc. I can understand the comment about the api-paste and OS variables, and will use that in the future. I'm not sure what would have changed from deleting tenants last week. | 19:47 |
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| insanidade | hi all. is there any introductory presentation - based on horizon - you guys could share?? | 19:54 |
| insanidade | ops. sorry. based on *havana | 19:54 |
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| insanidade | I have some training materials from Grizzly. I'd like anupdated material. Any hints ? | 19:55 |
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| mwoodson | in nova.conf, what's a good way to determine 'sql_max_pool_size'. I had it commented out, and my nova-compute with fail with sqlalchemy pool errors | 20:20 |
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| mwoodson | i uped that value on the control node, and i got it to work. but not sure what sane values are | 20:20 |
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| MACscr | does the openstack gui allow users to backup/restore a snapashot or backup of a kvm guest that is backed by ceph rbd? | 22:03 |
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| monst | anyone seen the issue when you virsh destory a instance it goes into a shut off state instead of deleting? | 22:19 |
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| datamatic | MACscr: the first yes, you can take and restore machines from a snapshot | 22:35 |
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| datamatic | second, I dont get this. You want a backup of a guest that is volume bootable? | 22:37 |
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| xmltok | does the neutron metadata agent require the l3 agent to make the 169.254.169.254 forwarding? everything appears to be running correctly in my linuxbridge configuration except for the missing iptable rule | 22:43 |
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| zzelle_ | hi, everyone | 22:57 |
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| zzelle_ | is it possible with neutron (ml2) to deploy all networks associated to a specific physnet on a unique dhcp agent ? | 22:58 |
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| jrussell | Is there any way to change this timeout? I've adjusted every timeout and interval setting I can find in all config files and I can't seem to fix this. | 23:19 |
| jrussell | 2014-01-27 23:18:17.307 9742 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 71da52d2-e422-4057-b7ba-a3d9d7f9158e] VolumeNotCreated: Volume 94fce045-7175-4bb6-844c-223fdb6ff3d7 did not finish being created even after we waited 65 seconds or 60 attempts. | 23:19 |
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| jrussell | Context: Equallogic SAN, launching instance and selecting "launch from image (creates new volume)". Volume is 10G and takes a hair over 60 seconds to create on the san. | 23:20 |
| jrussell | After this fails, I'm able to spin up another working instance from the volume that was just created on the SAN. Everything works, just not in one go | 23:21 |
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| MACscr | datamatic_: why wouldnt a guest be volume bootable? Most users want persistent storage. | 23:31 |
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| datamatic_ | MACscr: i didnt say that. Volume bootable guests are the way to go imo. I was just trying ot understand the second part of your question | 23:34 |
| datamatic_ | ephemeral storage is not apt for production with critical data. | 23:34 |
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| MACscr | datamatic_: Ah, the second part was just more stating what storage mechanism was being used. Some systems only backup certain storage types | 23:38 |
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| MACscr | I have little to no experience with openstack so far. Just have more been doing research. Need to make sure I setup a system that does backups well for DR, etc. I do though obviously have internal backups in place (r1soft) for extreme critical data that is time sensitive. | 23:40 |
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| MACscr | If daily backups are done through openstack (whatever component handles that stuff), can they be done incrementally so that a full backup isnt performed every time? dont want to waste disk io, etc. | 23:41 |
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