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| auroraskyes | Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out in getting comms to the cirros test image on a new devstack system. | 01:43 |
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| lbalbalba | hi. im looking at buying new hardware to run a small openstack deployment on. not too sure about the hardware specs though | 02:45 |
| lbalbalba | as far as my new hardware is concerned: the only part im still really worried about, is the wireless network adapter | 02:45 |
| lbalbalba | read some articles that not all wifi and kvm place nice together | 02:45 |
| lbalbalba | something about support for 'wds' or 'master' mode | 02:47 |
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| fifieldt | 'wds' and 'master' mode are normally used to turn your wireless card into an acces point, yes? | 02:48 |
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| lbalbalba | dont know. something about bridging support, if i recall correctly | 02:48 |
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| lbalbalba | something about kvm virtualization doing something to your nic thats not always supported by wifi nic cards | 02:52 |
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| lbalbalba | currently considering getting an TP-Link TL-WDN4800. it supposed to be supported by the ath9k driver, which supposedly supports wds mode | 02:53 |
| fifieldt | maybe promiscuous mode>? | 02:55 |
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| fifieldt | but yes, I doubt many people have tried such a setup | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | so there might be issues | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | but I don't know enough to say | 02:55 |
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| lbalbalba | it sucks. my home network is wifi only | 02:59 |
| jrwren | lay cable | 02:59 |
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| lbalbalba | it would be wired acroos the room floor, or all across the celing. not a pretty sight | 02:59 |
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| jrwren | its worth it. or lift hte carpet and lay it under | 03:05 |
| jrwren | or... how old is hte building, it is possible the phone lines are cat5. i did that at my old place. | 03:05 |
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| lbalbalba | yeah i could lift the floor and put it under, i guess. nah, not gonna do that :( | 03:07 |
| lbalbalba | hrm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_mode | 03:07 |
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| lbalbalba | there's no phone lines in the home, period. just fiber optic. for tv, phone, internet | 03:09 |
| lbalbalba | and wifi for internet and wireless tv | 03:10 |
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| ChrisSWS | Hi | 08:54 |
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| ChrisSWS | Does anyone know about customising Horizon's less files please? | 08:55 |
| ChrisSWS | I'm playing aroudn with altering the styling of Horizon | 08:55 |
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| ChrisSWS | But when I customise the less files in /usr/share/openstack-dashboard/static/dashboard/less the changes aren't applied to the CSS | 08:55 |
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| dheeraj | Is this channel for Cloud computing? | 09:41 |
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| dheeraj | Is here any one? | 09:56 |
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| steil1 | dheeraj: yes, there' somebody out here ... (i'm just a newbie at the moment trying to find the way through the gerrit/jenkins/maven/... djungle ;-)) | 10:09 |
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| dheeraj | steil1: What do you mean? | 10:18 |
| dheeraj | What for this channel is ? Is it for Cloud computing? | 10:18 |
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| steil1 | dheeraj: only wanted to answer your question ("(10:42:05) dheeraj: Is this channel for Cloud computing?") ... | 10:21 |
| steil1 | this channel is for cloud computing with openstack | 10:21 |
| steil1 | see: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/BugDay | 10:21 |
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| ersi | I'm setting up a machine which will run basically all the things on a single machine. I'm unsure how to configure nova-network though. This is how the machine looks: http://pastie.org/private/cw9xl83kufvany3ivcvw Could someone help me get started? :) | 10:54 |
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| sgran | humph | 11:02 |
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| sgran | I've just noticed that in havana, compute nodes can no longer add themselves to an availability zone by just having the right thing in the config file | 11:03 |
| sgran | we had some puppet code that figured out which chassis a blade was in, and then put the right node_availability_zone in the config file based on that | 11:03 |
| sgran | it looks like now I have to do it manually? How are people handling this for large deployments? | 11:04 |
| sgran | it seems like it could be tedious to have do it all by hand | 11:04 |
| ersi | I'm mostly asking because I'm reading the configuration references but I can't get my head around what the flat_interface and flat_network_bridge should be | 11:04 |
| sgran | is br0 attached to eth1 ? | 11:05 |
| sgran | yes | 11:05 |
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| sgran | I think you want public_interface to be eth0, flat_interface to be eth1 and flat_bridge to be br0 | 11:06 |
| sgran | but I don't know nova_network all that well | 11:06 |
| ersi | I'll give that a try :) | 11:06 |
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| ersi | Hm. `nova network-create` seems to.. not complete. | 11:10 |
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| ersi | Ah, well the log was a good place to look. *duh* | 11:11 |
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| new_user_slava | Hi. Someone can help? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/9208/got-error-when-perform-havana-install/ | 11:19 |
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| AMike | hello to all again | 11:39 |
| AMike | anybody here? | 11:39 |
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| Drankis | BobBall hello! Will this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61712/ included in next OpenStack releases? | 11:52 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: An alternative fix is already in the current OpenStack trunk - the problems you are seeing are not applicable to trunk (or the next release) and I'm expecting to be able to add tests that prevent a similar breakage immediately prior to the release | 12:04 |
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| Drankis | BobBall ok, tnx! | 12:15 |
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| amber_nic | Hi all, I posted the following question at askopenstack: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/9128/grizzly-error-the-server-has-either-erred-or-is-incapable-of-performing-the-requested-operation/ It was answered. The problem is that as a newbie I don't know how to have new tokens. The services are all running. Hope someone can help me. | 12:42 |
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| Drankis | amber_nic http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-verify.html check section where create keystonerc file | 12:47 |
| amber_nic | Drankis: thank you very much! :) | 12:48 |
| Drankis | BobBall I am looking implement neutron nad you suggest to use devstack documentation. I used it, but in devstack is two more services which isn't in havana build: q-agt and q-domua | 12:48 |
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| Drankis | Is this possible only in devstack? | 12:49 |
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| Drankis | I mean - neutron setup... | 12:49 |
| Drankis | I just somewhere read, that nova-network will be deprecated in future. | 12:50 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: it should be, at some point, yes - it might still be the default in Icehouse - there will be a discussion on that in a few weeks time. | 12:59 |
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| BobBall | I don't know the details of neutron and devstack etc... but we definitely had neutron working for Havana. | 13:00 |
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| BobBall | If you have questions can I suggest you email openstack@citrix.com and cc openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org and I'll make sure it gets a response from those who do know the answers! | 13:00 |
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| Drankis | BobBall ok, thanks! I am looking now how neutron is working with XenServer looking in source code, if I can't find a way, then I will definately write a question. | 13:05 |
| BobBall | if you do figure out what's wrong, can you submit a patch or email openstack@citrix.com :) | 13:05 |
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| BobBall | so we can help fix it for the next person | 13:05 |
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| Drankis | BobBall I think there is only something wrong with my hands :D :D :D | 13:07 |
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| AMike | hi all, again. It's possible a phisicaly separate internet traffic and trafic data network (eg. traffic between storages and compute nodes)? Add to each compute node a network card for internet traffic only? | 13:22 |
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| coolhp | Hello everyone. | 13:24 |
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| coolhp | I am trying to deploy a small openstack with 3 machines (1 controller, 2 compute nodes). I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to have the network setup simply bridge the interface from the VMs to the physical interface from the machine and pickup an IP address from my LANs DHCP server. | 13:25 |
| coolhp | I thought that Flat networking was in that general area of thought but so far I'm still not able to get that result. | 13:26 |
| coolhp | Is what I am trying to do impossible ? | 13:26 |
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| coolhp | Would anyone know if there is a way to simply bridge a Libvirt/KVM machine's interface to the compute node's physical interface and let the local LAN's DHCP server give them IPs ? | 13:42 |
| coolhp | Instead of having to go through a NAT I mean | 13:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could use the vlan model rather than gre | 13:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're using neutron, that is... | 13:46 |
| iDrac | coolhp: yes, you can bridge kvm interface and host's physical interface | 13:46 |
| iDrac | http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking | 13:46 |
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| jrwren | but can you get openstack to do it? And how would the metadata api service work? | 13:57 |
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| ersi | Alright, so I can boot VMs - they get a IP and I can connect to their IP from the controller/compute-node.. but I can't SSH to it from outside of the ctrller/compute-node.. I got a secgroup setup to allow SSH on tcp 22 0.0.0.0/0.. | 14:32 |
| ersi | Anyone got any ideas where I should be focusing? I'm looking at the IPtables rules which openstack has setup on the machine | 14:33 |
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| ersi | Oh, and I'm using FlatDHCPmode in my setup >_> | 14:46 |
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| jrwren | ersi: that is about where I am at. cheers. | 14:48 |
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| jrwren | ersi: if you do a nova show <ID> on one of the running instances, does it have an accessIPv4 ? | 14:49 |
| jrwren | mine dont, so I know I need to configure access IP config in nova network somehow, somewhere. | 14:49 |
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| ersi | jrwren: Hmm, no - the instance doesn't have anything in accessIPv4 :o | 14:50 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: ping | 15:40 |
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| ersi | jrwren: Gotten anywhere? | 15:42 |
| ersi | I certainly haven't, unfortunately | 15:42 |
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| Drankis | BobBall jup =] | 15:49 |
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| matel | Hi, I am here. | 15:49 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: can I introduce matel | 15:50 |
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| BobBall | matel was responsible for the quantum integration for XenServer | 15:50 |
| BobBall | I'm hoping he may know some of the answers to your questions! | 15:51 |
| matel | I hacked in Maru's patch, so credit for maru :-) | 15:51 |
| Drankis | =]]] | 15:51 |
| BobBall | Ok, ok, ok... But you understand it, and I don't try to :) | 15:51 |
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| matel | yep, sure | 15:51 |
| Drankis | maybe you got some documentation about that that patch? :D | 15:52 |
| matel | yep, sure. | 15:52 |
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| matel | This is the blog from that time: http://blogs.citrix.com/2013/06/14/openstack-networking-quantum-on-xenserver-from-notworking-to-networking/ | 15:53 |
| Drankis | I did a lot but I can't figure out where I start did things wrong... | 15:53 |
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| Drankis | yeah, but that only describe configuration in devstack | 15:53 |
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| matel | Ok, what do you have now? | 15:54 |
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| matel | what's your setup? | 15:54 |
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| BobBall | Have you seen https://raw.github.com/matelakat/shared/xs-q-v1/xenserver-quantum/deployment.png ? | 15:54 |
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| Drankis | I have neutron services running in sepparate system (l3, dhcp, server, metadata) and two computes, on each I got running neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent | 15:56 |
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| Drankis | BobBall yes, I am, but as I write in e-mail, there is displayed two services, which isn't in havana release, at least I can't find them | 15:56 |
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| BobBall | Oh yes - but that setup was from havana release - so the services should be somewhere... I hope... | 15:57 |
| BobBall | matel can comment more | 15:57 |
| Drankis | matel also I configured network, something like describet there: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html | 15:57 |
| matel | a sec. | 15:57 |
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| * BobBall wonders what a provate network is... | 15:59 | |
| BobBall | anyway | 15:59 |
| BobBall | I've got to head off now | 15:59 |
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| BobBall | Hopefully matel can help you solve your problems - but if not we can continue on email and here! | 15:59 |
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| Drankis | ok, thanks :) | 16:00 |
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| matel | Ok Drankis, so I might be a bit confused, what's the release that you're using | 16:03 |
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| Drankis | matel havana 2013.2 | 16:03 |
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| matel | You should be OK with that, don't get confused by those two agents, you don't need two. | 16:04 |
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| Drankis | I see that Maru's patch is included in this release | 16:05 |
| Drankis | Ok, but what then I need? :) | 16:05 |
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| matel | on each compute, you need one agent, whose rootwrap talks down to dom0, that's the first step. | 16:05 |
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| matel | Is that working? | 16:05 |
| matel | I'm looking for the devstack lines... | 16:06 |
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| Drankis | Hmmm | 16:06 |
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| matel | What's your root helper? | 16:07 |
| matel | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/neutron_plugins/openvswitch_agent#L73 | 16:07 |
| Drankis | root_helper = sudo /usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf | 16:07 |
| Drankis | so I should change it to root_helper = sudo /usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap-xen-dom0 /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf | 16:07 |
| Drankis | ? | 16:07 |
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| matel | Yep, you need the dom0 one. | 16:08 |
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| matel | Drankis: yep | 16:08 |
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| Drankis | matel http://paste.openstack.org/show/55698/ after restarting agent | 16:09 |
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| Drankis | Heh, but running "/usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap-xen-dom0 /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ip -o link show xapi1" got diferent error message | 16:10 |
| Drankis | :/ | 16:10 |
| jrwren | ersi: i haven't been trying, but I'd love to hear what you find. | 16:10 |
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| matel | get rid of sudo | 16:11 |
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| matel | Drankis: What's the error that you get, if you run the command manually? | 16:11 |
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| sgran | ersi: can you pastebin the output of 'nova show <instance>' and 'iptables-save -c' on the controller/compute ? | 16:12 |
| Drankis | matel http://paste.openstack.org/show/55700/ | 16:12 |
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| Drankis | this xenserver is slave in pool | 16:13 |
| Drankis | os two xenserver's | 16:13 |
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| Drankis | of* | 16:13 |
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| matel | Drankis: It seems that this rootwrapper is not prepared to work in a pooled environment. | 16:14 |
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| matel | Let's try to talk to the master, see what happens. | 16:15 |
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| Drankis | ok, one mom | 16:16 |
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| matel | Drankis: for now, let's play with only one compute. | 16:16 |
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| coolhp | Good afternoon everyone. I'm still struggling a bit here : I'm trying to set up Flat Network in the simplest configuration possible. That is to say, I'd like my instances to simply bridge with br100 and acquire and IP from my LAN's DHCP. Not NAT, no firewall, nothing fancy. However, the more I dig in, the more I seem to understand that it is just not possible with nova-compute+nova-network | 16:18 |
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| coolhp | Am I just turning in circles or am I right in thinking it simply cannot be done ? | 16:19 |
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| Drankis | matel on master - http://paste.openstack.org/show/55702/ | 16:19 |
| Drankis | when I run command at least it logs in and run command | 16:19 |
| Drankis | but xapi1 exists | 16:20 |
| Drankis | additionaly - same errors when restart ovs neutron agent | 16:20 |
| matel | So if you log in to dom0, and run ip -o link show xapi1, what does it say? | 16:20 |
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| sgran | coolhp: just don't run a network node? | 16:21 |
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| Drankis | matel it show Device "xapi1" does not exist. ... | 16:21 |
| Drankis | but when I run xe network-list | 16:22 |
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| Drankis | it appears | 16:22 |
| Drankis | ok what then I must to do? :) | 16:22 |
| sgran | you'll lose the built-in IPAM, which seems like a shame, but if you just want a platform to boot VMs and no network management, that should do it | 16:22 |
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| matel | Drankis: what bridges do you have? | 16:22 |
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| matel | Drankis: ifconfig -a | 16:23 |
| matel | Drankis: Let's try to find out, what's the name of the bridge. | 16:23 |
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| coolhp | sgan : I guess I'm a bit confused now. This is my first deployment... learning as I go ;-) Here is my setup : | 16:23 |
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| Drankis | matel http://paste.openstack.org/show/55704/ | 16:24 |
| Drankis | xapi0 is bond | 16:25 |
| coolhp | LAN is 192.168.8.0/24 - Controller is on 192.168.8.30 running nova-compute, nova-network, nova-scheduler,nova-conductor - Node1 is on 192.168.8.31 running nova-compute and nova-network - Node2 is on 192.168.8.32 running nova-compute and nova-network | 16:25 |
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| sgran | so, I don't know nova-network as well as I know neutron, so I may be mistaken | 16:26 |
| coolhp | That's quite alright ! Actually, I thought nova-network might be easier to start with than neutron.... but I may be mistaken. | 16:26 |
| sgran | but in neutron, you can run the API services and the compute agents that do the work of attaching VMs to the network, but not run a DHCP agent or a router or anything | 16:27 |
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| sgran | I don't know if the same is possible with nova-network | 16:27 |
| coolhp | I dont mind switching to neutron at all at this point... if it helps. | 16:27 |
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| coolhp | What I'm trying to achieve is for my instances to attach themselves to the bridge interface of the compute node they are running on and acquire a dhcp lease from the LAN directly | 16:28 |
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| sgran | nod, makes sense | 16:28 |
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| coolhp | So far, I'm had mixed levels of success... but I have to admit I'm just monkey wrenching around and pushing random knobs to see what they do.... | 16:29 |
| matel | Drankis: What is the bridge of xapi1? | 16:29 |
| coolhp | So I guess my question is : Is what I just described possible with Neutron ? | 16:29 |
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| Drankis | matel xapi1 is a bridge to internal network which name is br-int http://paste.openstack.org/show/55705/ | 16:31 |
| slowe | coolhp: Not an expert here (by no stretch of the imagination), but I think what you're trying to do should be possible with FlatDHCPManager configuration of nova-network | 16:31 |
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| coolhp | Yup... that's what I'm tinkering with right now. I think my nose is too close to the tree and I've lost track of the forest somewhere. | 16:32 |
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| matel | Drankis: we definitely don't want to control that with neutron. | 16:32 |
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| Drankis | matel ah, ok, then I don't understand something compleatly | 16:33 |
| matel | Drankins: Sorry, my bad, sorry | 16:33 |
| matel | Drankis: wait a sec. | 16:33 |
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| matel | Drankis: did you created this network yourself? | 16:34 |
| matel | s/did/have/g | 16:34 |
| Drankis | matel yes, I created it | 16:34 |
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| matel | Drankis: So the issue here, is that the network is not created, until you don't have any interfaces, that's your issue. | 16:35 |
| matel | Drankis: wait a sec, I find you the instruction to activate it. | 16:35 |
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| Drankis | matel ok, thanks. There is what I did before http://markmail.org/message/nosvf342r5cglxne#query:+page:1+mid:kk2k4mxsifebj5yk+state:results | 16:36 |
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| matel | Drankis: xe network-attach uuid=$net host-uuid=$host | 16:38 |
| matel | Drankis: this should create the bridge. | 16:38 |
| matel | The other option is to create a vif on that network, and plug that in do domU. | 16:39 |
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| Drankis | matel it works@ | 16:40 |
| Drankis | matel it works! | 16:40 |
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| matel | Okay, at least it can find the bridge now. | 16:40 |
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| Drankis | matel yeah, when run command it shows bridge | 16:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Good day all | 16:41 |
| matel | Drankis: That's good. | 16:41 |
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| Drankis | matel but same when I restart ovs neutron agent. http://paste.openstack.org/show/55706/ | 16:42 |
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| matel | Drankins: It's again the sudo. | 16:43 |
| matel | Drankins: you don't need sudo | 16:44 |
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| Drankis | matel woow, yeah! | 16:46 |
| Drankis | works! | 16:46 |
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| matel | Drankis: cool. | 16:48 |
| Drankis | matel ok i must go now, i will test it more a little bit later! But what is going with slave servers? | 16:48 |
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| matel | Drankis: Make them talk to the master as well. | 16:52 |
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| Drankis | them? | 16:53 |
| matel | Drankis: that's just a guess, I would ned to know your network config. | 16:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | For any one follow me in the channel i got my private cloud up last night. Thanks for all that helped over the pass weeks | 16:53 |
| matel | Drankis: and I never tried pool networking. What about discussing it on Monday, with Bob? | 16:54 |
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| Drankis | matel ok, thanks! If you got some questions about my configuration ask it on martins@hostnet.lv i will be pleased to help. | 16:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: excellent! | 16:55 |
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| matel | Drankis: A network diagram would be useful. | 16:55 |
| Gamekiller77 | We are deploying our first app in the cloud today | 16:55 |
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| matel | Gamekiller77: good luck! | 17:02 |
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| sgran | coolhp: sorry, was afk for a bit | 17:25 |
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| sgran | I suspect the thing that you're going to run into with nova_network is that it is going to always run a dhcp server for you with its own idea of what IPs things should have | 17:25 |
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| mdorman | i have an image with some cloud-init config stuff baked in to /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d It works great when instances are launched from it. however, if there is any user-data provided to the vm, then only the user-data stuff gets run by cloud-init, not the baked in stuff. is there some config i need to make sure they both run? and ideall, the baked in stuff runs first? | 17:28 |
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| daveops | mdorman: might want to try #cloud-init | 17:29 |
| mdorman | good idea, thanks | 17:29 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | When I look up HA for openstack I notice Florian states you have to use DRBD | 18:09 |
| jdm4tdx1 | I am using XenServer so do I still have to use a DRBS configuration for HA | 18:09 |
| jdm4tdx1 | I am using shared storage | 18:10 |
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| ersi | sgran: Here's the output of `nova show rhel65` and `iptables-save -c` (+ some other things, like `ifconfig`, nova.conf, `brctl show`): http://pastie.org/private/f5qq2wfssaw76f4apdomng | 18:50 |
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| diogogmt | I'm trying to consume the compute API but the request keeps timing out. I can create instances through horizon but if I use the python-nova-client i get this error message: http://pastebin.com/EUYAZ70f | 19:21 |
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| diogogmt | I know it is not a compute problem since I can spin instances, could it be an identity problem? | 19:22 |
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| gmi | diogogmt: anything in the nova-api.log? | 19:30 |
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| booi | is it possible to edit the zone of a device? I tried but it seems like the swift-ring-builder set_info command does not allow any region/zone changes. | 19:37 |
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| Gamekiller77 | any OVS people here | 19:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | trying to see how long a MAC is kept before it re raps | 19:56 |
| Gamekiller77 | arps | 19:56 |
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| sgran | ersi: so it seems you haven't attached a floating ip to it? | 20:07 |
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| sgran | it's mildly confusing because you seem to have the default libvirt rules there as well (virsh net-delete default or something is probably what you want to do there) | 20:08 |
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| sgran | but the iptables rules you've shown don't have any rules for the default security group, so you've got a few things to work out | 20:09 |
| sgran | I suggest setting verbose=True in nova.conf, restarting your services, and sifting through the logs. Something isn't working right | 20:10 |
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| richardboswell | Sam-I-Am: you around? | 20:14 |
| Gamekiller77 | he must of stepped away i was private chatting with him | 20:14 |
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| richardboswell | Gamekiller77: thanks...no biggie | 20:16 |
| Gamekiller77 | cool just sharing | 20:16 |
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| Gamekiller77 | anyone here ever load balance horizon ? | 20:17 |
| Gamekiller77 | like on a VPX | 20:17 |
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| dmw_ | hi there, I'm trying to get neutron configured and my head is spinning. I went through the guide and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. VM's boot and can't reach dhcp, I also can't connect to their console. | 20:36 |
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| dmw_ | is br-int on the compute nodes supposed to get the ip address that is configured in ovs_neutron_plugin.ini automatically or do I need to configure that? | 20:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | br-int is just that | 20:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | are you using OVS plugin | 20:39 |
| mdorman | Gamekiller77: we're LB'ing, though just through haproxy | 20:39 |
| dmw_ | yes, OVS w/gre | 20:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah haproxy different | 20:39 |
| mdorman | seems to work ok, as long as you have all the horizon servers hooked up to the same memcache servers | 20:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah need to do that hehe | 20:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok thanks | 20:39 |
| dmw_ | ok, is it normal to show state UNKNOWN w/ ip a? | 20:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | no | 20:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | so you setup the br-int in the ovs | 20:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | no need to assign an IP | 20:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | can you past your ova .ini in a pastebin | 20:40 |
| dmw_ | yes, just a sec | 20:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | cool | 20:41 |
| Gamekiller77 | i just fixed mine so i know a little to much about this setup now sigh | 20:41 |
| dmw_ | Paste #55741 | 20:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | do you have url | 20:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | sorry knee deep in a setup | 20:43 |
| dmw_ | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/55741// | 20:44 |
| dmw_ | you are looking for /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini correct? | 20:45 |
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| sneezewort | Does Nova have disk redundancy or any redundancy at all if you don't use Cinder? | 20:50 |
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| vu | Whats a good tutorial on installing openstack from A-Z? | 21:00 |
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| vu | This one brakes at some point and is not clear what goes where compute or controller. | 21:01 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu what are you using? Openstack docs has install guides for different flavors of linux | 21:22 |
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| richardboswell | vu: if you working on Havana you can use this how-to, it may help --> http://www.revolutionlabs.net/2013/11/part-1-how-to-install-openstack-havana.html | 21:23 |
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| vu | jdm4tdx1,: CentOS | 21:29 |
| vu | richardboswell,: Thanks let me take a look! | 21:29 |
| vu | richardboswell,: Agh this is for Ubuntu, I use CentOS | 21:31 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu as with all install guide they take take the liberty to do a bare install on few systems but look at the install guide for centos at http://docs.openstack.org/ | 21:35 |
| jdm4tdx1 | Vu that is using KVM hypervisor if you use XenServer then let me know and I will point in the right direction | 21:37 |
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| vu | jdm4tdx1: I use KVM exclusivelly | 21:39 |
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| vu | jdm4tdx1,: I got to the point of messagin server install and got lost | 21:42 |
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| vu | Its not clear os that on controller or not | 21:42 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: they install it on the controller system | 21:44 |
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| vu | jdm4tdx1,: Have you done an install using the docs.os.org in the sequential manner? | 21:46 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: never followed it completely as written due to adding systems and using different software in places | 21:49 |
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| vu | I understand. Wish there was a sequence I could follow would help a lot | 22:03 |
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| vu | jdm4tdx1,: Can one install Nova completely without Swift and then go over and do Swift and Glance? | 22:06 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: I know you do not like Ubuntu but I found this install guide that does not gloss over the info as much http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content//index.html | 22:13 |
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| cotton | can someone speak as to the practical differences between using a SAN vs local storage for computer/storage node disk image storage? | 22:14 |
| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: it is written with Ubuntu in mind but I think you can use the centos install guide with it and get a ton of learning | 22:15 |
| vu | Ok so is all your experience with OStack with Ubuntu and Xen? | 22:18 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Haha Xen install is totally different layout | 22:20 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: Like you I am used to using Centos but OpenStack is really slatted toward Ubuntu. That being said the install with XenServer would be easier if you use Ubuntu. I guess I just like to swim upstream. | 22:23 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: you can use the guide as the start of a XenServer install but you would have to track down quite a bit of documentation on your own. Most everything is written with Ubuntu and KVM in mind. | 22:24 |
| vu | jdm4tdx1: I am opk with KVM and will stick to it. Going the Xen way would digress me quite a bit | 22:25 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Vu: Since the whole idea behind OpenStack is decoupling of services, you can pretty much install all of the individual programs on their own servers if you have enough. | 22:27 |
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| jdm4tdx1 | Ok I am out good luck getting that system up. | 22:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | vu: can i help you? | 23:04 |
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| vu | sure man | 23:04 |
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| vu | Sam-I-Am: An easy one would be where do I start man hehehe | 23:05 |
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| vu | Sam-I-Am: I am on CentOS 6.5 KVM and have 1 nic availoable for now on each KVM. This is a small lab- | 23:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you want to install openstack on VMs? | 23:06 |
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| vu | Yes to test the whole install process before bare metal | 23:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you want to use neutron? | 23:07 |
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| vu | Do I have an option? | 23:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova-net is still there | 23:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on the goal of your project | 23:08 |
| vu | Sam-I-Am: Please elaborate a brief diff | 23:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova-net is pretty much basic networking | 23:09 |
| vu | ok | 23:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron is more into the 'software-defined networking' category and is more flexible... also integrates with sdn-enabled hardware via plugins | 23:09 |
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| vu | I see | 23:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure what your project goals are | 23:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | mine was sdn, so i dove right into neutron | 23:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova-net is easier to set up and understand, especially with only 1 nic per node. you can do it with neutron, but it's a little more involved. | 23:10 |
| vu | Ok let me give a brief background. I use AWS and wouild like to have the basics like EC2, S3, VPN, LB thats it for now | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | vpn and lb are sdn-type functions... so probably neutron | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | s3 is object storage... swift | 23:11 |
| vu | Sam-I-Am: Ok is the intsllation complex? | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | it might make sense to try out redhat rdo quick-start... its basically a proof of concept that magically installs on 1 node with as little as 1 interface | 23:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it'll give you a better idea of how things fit together | 23:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | then, when you're ready, you can do a manual install using the install guide | 23:12 |
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| vu | Sam-I-Am: I dont quite understand that approach as I convinced the concept works but need to be able to install it and understand the dipendences and the flow | 23:13 |
| vu | Sam-I-Am: Have you gone through this path yourself? | 23:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | quite a few times now... | 23:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | you might just try a manual install | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | although i'd recommend more than 1 virtual nic on each vm | 23:16 |
| dmw_ | neutron is very confusing | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | 2 for nova-net and if you use neutron, a network node with 3 vnics | 23:16 |
| dmw_ | I've beein trying to get it setup for a few days now w/ a multinode config and 3 nics | 23:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dmw_: whats your arch look like? | 23:17 |
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| dmw_ | controller node, network node, compute node | 23:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, so pretty normal | 23:18 |
| dmw_ | for some reason the public gateway never gets an UP status | 23:18 |
| dmw_ | subnet is a little odd due to a preexisting network, I was given 10.21.83.1 - 100 | 23:19 |
| dmw_ | so my CIDR is set to 10.21.80.0/21 with an explicit range set | 23:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've seen the issue with the status, but it usually works anyway | 23:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | under what tenant did you create your external/public network, and did you mark it as 'external; ? | 23:20 |
| dmw_ | ok, maybe I have a different problem then, just been trying to dig everywhere | 23:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats not working? | 23:21 |
| dmw_ | admin tenant | 23:21 |
| dmw_ | I'll have to check where the external setting is to verify | 23:22 |
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| dmw_ | when I boot vm's I can't connect to then at all | 23:23 |
| dmw_ | and they don;t get dhcp | 23:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron net-show ext-net | 23:23 |
| mrproper | No networks | 23:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | that'll show if your external network is marked external | 23:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 23:24 |
| dmw_ | yes, it is marked external | 23:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you create the internal network and router as the 'user' tenant? | 23:25 |
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| dmw_ | on the network node, I configured the external interface w/ a manual IP and set the old external IP to the bridge | 23:26 |
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| dmw_ | was I supposed to do that for other interfaces at all or on other nodes? | 23:26 |
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| dmw_ | just lauching instances w/ the Admin tenant right now | 23:26 |
| dmw_ | so I created the internal network and router there | 23:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, br-ex only exists on the network node | 23:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent had much luck with all networks/routers under the same tenant | 23:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | or at least under the admin tenant | 23:28 |
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| dmw_ | ok, I'll try it on the user tenant again | 23:29 |
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| dmw_ | I found the troubleshooting guide for networking but it seems to be specific to nova-net | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah it is | 23:30 |
| dmw_ | do you know of any troubleshooting guides for neutron? | 23:30 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I noticed the install guides don't have information on Heat or Ceilometer | 23:30 |
| sinh | is it possible to assign two different subnets to the same net? | 23:30 |
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| mrproper | Yes | 23:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: oh? i see them... | 23:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | heat = orchestration, ceilometer = telemetry | 23:31 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: The documents we've been using? | 23:31 |
| mrproper | Oh geez | 23:31 |
| * mrproper totally missed them | 23:31 | |
| sinh | isn't ceilometer the billing/meter stuff? | 23:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is moving toward more generic names in the documentation | 23:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:32 |
| sinh | or is that another word for telemetry? | 23:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | so s/neutron/networking s/nova/compute | 23:32 |
| mrproper | It makes sense to use the generic names in documentation. Easier to change later, or not change rather. | 23:32 |
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| sinh | so about that multi-subnet to a single network thing in neutron | 23:32 |
| dmw_ | is it normal for the br-ex interface to show an unknown state? | 23:33 |
| dmw_ | br-ex: <BROADCAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN | 23:33 |
| sinh | does the existing netns int get a second IP? | 23:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dmw_: thats right | 23:35 |
| dmw_ | thank you | 23:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: yeah it should | 23:35 |
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| sinh | it's not | 23:35 |
| sinh | i've restarted neutron-server | 23:35 |
| sinh | and the agent | 23:35 |
| sinh | er dhcp-agent | 23:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | dmw_: are you building these as VMs? | 23:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: what was the command you used? | 23:39 |
| sinh | neutron subnet-create | 23:39 |
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| dmw_ | Sam-I-Am: I'm not building as vm's although I wish I had now since it would be easier to start over | 23:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | under vmware? | 23:44 |
| sinh | it's all good | 23:44 |
| sinh | i can wait | 23:44 |
| sinh | er woops | 23:44 |
| dmw_ | just raw Ubuntu 12.04.3 | 23:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i mean... what are these vms running on top of? | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | nevermind, i read you wrong | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | so.. | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | on the network node, do 'ip netns' ... do you see a qrouter* and a qdhcp* ? | 23:47 |
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| sinh | me or dmw? | 23:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | dmw | 23:48 |
| dmw_ | I did before I rebooted, now they are gone | 23:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: what does neutron subnet-list show? | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | dmw_: ok, well its good those were forming | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you ping the ip associated with br-ex? | 23:50 |
| dmw_ | Outside | 10.21.80.0/21 | {"start": "10.21.83.10", "end": "10.21.83.100"} | 23:50 |
| dmw_ | insideSubnet | 10.0.0.0/24 | {"start": "10.0.0.2", "end": "10.0.0.254"} | 23:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as the admin tenant, what's neutron port-list show? | 23:51 |
| dmw_ | I can ping the ip for br-int from the neutron server | 23:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | br-int has an ip? | 23:52 |
| dmw_ | but just noticed that I can't reach it from the controller | 23:53 |
| dmw_ | br-int does NOT have an ip | 23:53 |
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| dmw_ | it shoudl try to use the IP from ovs_neutron_plugin, right? | 23:55 |
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| dmw_ | shoot, gotta run catch a bus | 23:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | the local_ip or whatever that directive is? | 23:55 |
| dmw_ | thank yo ufor the help | 23:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | those IPs should be on the 'data' or 'tunnel' network between the compute and network nodes | 23:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | dmw_: ok | 23:55 |
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